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I want to hear a damn good excuse for Stave being benched

Posted: 1/1/2013 7:24 PM

I want to hear a damn good excuse for Stave being benched 


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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:26 PM

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I hope the experiment in seeing if you can win with a QB who can't throw is over.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:26 PM

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I hope you're standing over a tarp - those panties are soaking!

I do not think Stave or O'Brien or Knox or any other "QB" on this team makes a difference in this game. Very well played by Wisconsin considering that obvious weakness.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:27 PM

Stave v. Phillips 


Wisconsin wins that game with a competent passer.  Kudos to Phillips for what he's overcome, but he does not have the skills to beat a good defensive team with his arm. Stave wins that game, period.  I don't understand what the coaching staff saw after the first few series and especially after the 3rd quarter to merit keeping Phillips in there.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:30 PM

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I think the Badgers win the game is Stave plays the second half.

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I hope you're standing over a tarp - those panties are soaking!

I do not think Stave or O'Brien or Knox or any other "QB" on this team makes a difference in this game. Very well played by Wisconsin considering that obvious weakness.

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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:34 PM

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TheNewRed wrote: I hope you're standing over a tarp - those panties are soaking!

I do not think Stave or O'Brien or Knox or any other "QB" on this team makes a difference in this game. Very well played by Wisconsin considering that obvious weakness.
Really?  The only pass Stave threw the entire game should have been caught for a TD. Stanford didn't even have to pretend to respect the passing game the entire second half.  Nobody can say definitively that we would have won with Stave, but the odds would have been a lot better.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:34 PM

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Phillips is a decent qb but for one thing his release point is so freaking low lucky he didn't have more picks of of tips hell he hit a guy in the helmet and abby somehow came down with it
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:35 PM

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Stave was given 1 chance, and made a very good throw. How many more times did we need to see CP throw it into, or through a defensive players' hands'? At the least give Stave a series.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:37 PM

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Agreed, good luck winning against a Stanford defense when they don't have to worry about anything downfield. It was time to open up the playbook, not completely shut it down. Stave should've been in the game to loosen up the linebackers/DB's. Both Stave and Phillips can hand the ball off, only one will take shots downfield.

The limited passing game killed UW. I'm looking forward to next year with a healthy Stave and Bart Houston.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:38 PM

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Stave forces Stanford to honor our passing game. Without him the Cardnial linebackers and safeties were able to play downhill all game long. It's a testament to Montee's ability that he could rush for 99 yards in a one dimensional offense against the3rd ranked run defense nationally.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:38 PM

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TheNewRed wrote: I hope you're standing over a tarp - those panties are soaking!

I do not think Stave or O'Brien or Knox or any other "QB" on this team makes a difference in this game. Very well played by Wisconsin considering that obvious weakness.
Then you're an idiot that has no business commenting on a football game.  You're being laughed at by anyone who has any amount of knowledge of the game of football.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:40 PM

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Not sure about it myself.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:40 PM

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TheNewRed wrote: I hope you're standing over a tarp - those panties are soaking!

I do not think Stave or O'Brien or Knox or any other "QB" on this team makes a difference in this game. Very well played by Wisconsin considering that obvious weakness.

Stave is a far more competant passer than Phillips. He had just been out too long to put into this game especially given how the players had rallied around phillips.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:41 PM

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Stave would've made a difference.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:46 PM

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Good or bad they just seemed to want to play it tight and conservatively so I'm not terribly surprised they stuck with Phillips.  I thought too much was asked of the defense in the 2nd half.  They are tough and held up well but they aren't the kind who creates turnovers.  They essentially decided they'd exchange punts until one of the RBs broke one or there was a big defensive turnover and it just never came.

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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:46 PM

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This is a program philosophy that finally came to a head.  Instead of expecting playmaking from your QB, UW has always just been happy with a game manager(minus RW).  Granted, many will say Bevell was a game manager, but he at least had the arm to keep defenses honest.  It's time for a program like this to get out of this mentality, and i hope this is one of the biggest changes Andersen makes.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:47 PM

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There is no comparison, Stave is a hell of a lot better, the 1 throw he threw tonight said it all

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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:48 PM

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jajulka wrote:
TheNewRed wrote: I hope you're standing over a tarp - those panties are soaking!

I do not think Stave or O'Brien or Knox or any other "QB" on this team makes a difference in this game. Very well played by Wisconsin considering that obvious weakness.

Stave is a far more competant passer than Phillips. He had just been out too long to put into this game especially given how the players had rallied around phillips.
Dude this is absolutely nonsensical. Stave was in the game. He made a 30-40 yard pass and hit the receiver in the flipping hands. This is not a hypothetical issue of whether or not he was rusty, he actually displayed that he could made a throw.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:50 PM

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randomation wrote: Phillips is a decent qb but for one thing his release point is so freaking low lucky he didn't have more picks of of tips hell he hit a guy in the helmet and abby somehow came down with it

Agree - he's 6'3" but his throwing motion makes him about 5'8".
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:51 PM

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TheNewRed wrote: I hope you're standing over a tarp - those panties are soaking!

I do not think Stave or O'Brien or Knox or any other "QB" on this team makes a difference in this game. Very well played by Wisconsin considering that obvious weakness.
Haha hows that? Stanford knew CP couldn't throw the ball 10 yards, Stave would have taken his shots down the field and converted some of those, please tell me your not that dumb to make a statement like that, but coming from a NEB fan, I guess not

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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:53 PM

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Stave didn't play more because Phillips showed tremendous leadership following BB's departure. Stave should have played more, but didn't that's the way it goes.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:53 PM

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Stanford's biggest weakness was their pass defense.  How the hell was Phillips going to expose that?  The decision to keep Phillips in is going to leave a bitter taste for years when we look back at that game.

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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:53 PM

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terror5 wrote: This is a program philosophy that finally came to a head.  Instead of expecting playmaking from your QB, UW has always just been happy with a game manager(minus RW).  Granted, many will say Bevell was a game manager, but he at least had the arm to keep defenses honest.  It's time for a program like this to get out of this mentality, and i hope this is one of the biggest changes Andersen makes.
Bevell had an arm? That's newsbreaking!
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:54 PM

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The only thing that would explain not giving Stave a shot was if he tweaked his arm on the throw. But, wasn't it the non- throwing shoulder he injured?
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:56 PM

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Phillips does not create a throwing lane! In the end it cost us the game
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:56 PM

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Compared to what we saw today, yes.  Settle down.  Didn't say it was great, but was at least good enough to keep teams honest, and throw past 10 yds.
UnknownBadger wrote:
terror5 wrote: This is a program philosophy that finally came to a head.  Instead of expecting playmaking from your QB, UW has always just been happy with a game manager(minus RW).  Granted, many will say Bevell was a game manager, but he at least had the arm to keep defenses honest.  It's time for a program like this to get out of this mentality, and i hope this is one of the biggest changes Andersen makes.
Bevell had an arm? That's newsbreaking!

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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:59 PM

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Stave gave us our best chance to win.  I've no idea what our coaches, including Alvarez, expected but I almost sense they were content to be close.  I do know we exhibited a far more sophisticated passing game over six games with a red-shirt frosh than we did with a fifth year senior.

Seems such a shame.  That's three Rose Bowl losses by a combined 15 points.    


 

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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:59 PM

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The only thing that would explain not giving Stave a shot was if he tweaked his arm on the throw. But, wasn't it the non- throwing shoulder he injured?

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The only thing I can think of is that the Doctors were extremely reluctant to clear him to play. Maybe Barry was concerned that he really wasn't ready for more than a play of two.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 8:00 PM

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TheNewRed wrote: I hope you're standing over a tarp - those panties are soaking!

I do not think Stave or O'Brien or Knox or any other "QB" on this team makes a difference in this game. Very well played by Wisconsin considering that obvious weakness.
Seriously?  Even if Stave is in there and doesn't throw a pass, we're better off.  I love Cp's leadersip and toughness, but there;s no way he should've played the 4th quarter.

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Posted: 1/1/2013 8:02 PM

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Anybody notice that we have one competent receiver? Even if Stave plays, that doesn't change. We'll never know if CP can pass since Canada only called a few pass plays.
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