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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:26 AM
Coach Bielema
It's funny that UW fans have vilified BB for leaving there for the UA job. Yes, he has taken assistants, that were not guaranteed jobs, to coach down here. But, the new coach, Andersen has done the same thing and you all are praising him. Is there that much of a double standard or just being entirely homers. Every coach takes assistants that he feels comfortable with. At least BB NEVER said he was not leaving like Andersen did. He came back and met with his players and told them himself. So Coach Andersen takes his complete staff all at once and leaves nothing at USU, and yet he's better than BB. I understand he left the great UW and ya'll felt betrayed, but, the way i read on here half of you wanted him gone. So why keep smearing him. It was a business decision, and face it, that is exactly what the coaching profession is nowadays. Be happy you all had a coach that has had ya'll near the top the last few years. 7 bowl games in 7 years. 3 conference championships and 3 BCS bowls. I'm betting USU feels the same about you as you feel about the UofA. But face it, it's strictly business. And to those saying the move is not the same, well, it is. Ark ST is hating Malzahn for leaving to Auburn. Cincinnati is hating Butch Jones for going to Tennessee. Wisconsin is hating BB for coming to Arkansas. The same with Utah St with UW. It's a money game now. And it doesn't matter if it's a step up, down, or a lateral move, everyone of these coaches got more money.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:30 AM
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1. They need to teach people in Arkansas to use paragraphs.
2. Bad attempt at a troll job. The way BB left was completely different than Gary.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:33 AM
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Not sure what is more sad , the time you took to write this or the content.
If you can't see the difference then no one can explain it to you...just enjoy your coach ...I know I will enjoy watching Coach Andersen.
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It's funny that UW fans have vilified BB for leaving there for the UA job. Yes, he has taken assistants, that were not guaranteed jobs, to coach down here. But, the new coach, Andersen has done the same thing and you all are praising him. Is there that much of a double standard or just being entirely homers. Every coach takes assistants that he feels comfortable with. At least BB NEVER said he was not leaving like Andersen did. He came back and met with his players and told them himself. So Coach Andersen takes his complete staff all at once and leaves nothing at USU, and yet he's better than BB. I understand he left the great UW and ya'll felt betrayed, but, the way i read on here half of you wanted him gone. So why keep smearing him. It was a business decision, and face it, that is exactly what the coaching profession is nowadays. Be happy you all had a coach that has had ya'll near the top the last few years. 7 bowl games in 7 years. 3 conference championships and 3 BCS bowls. I'm betting USU feels the same about you as you feel about the UofA. But face it, it's strictly business. And to those saying the move is not the same, well, it is. Ark ST is hating Malzahn for leaving to Auburn. Cincinnati is hating Butch Jones for going to Tennessee. Wisconsin is hating BB for coming to Arkansas. The same with Utah St with UW. It's a money game now. And it doesn't matter if it's a step up, down, or a lateral move, everyone of these coaches got more money.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:33 AM
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Man, I'm really starting to believe what I hear about SEC school entrance requirements. Man, these folks have almost no ability to see nuance in anything.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:39 AM
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The guy would have a good point if the last sentence weren't completely false.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:43 AM
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By the way, do that many Wisconsin fans go to the Arkansas board ? Last time I was there was listening to them talk about how bad McFadden, Jones, and Hillis would run over us...can't remember the score..do remember McFadden chased down after a long run and Wisconsin winning that game.
Beat us before you try to talk trash...otherwise you just look stupid.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:48 AM
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The score was 17-14.
And how was the way he left different? Jeff Long offered a job to Bielema and he accepted. Alvarez offered Andersen a job and he accepted.
That last sentence is entirely true? Name one of those coaches that did not get more money.
And the reason Arkansas fans came to this board is to learn about the new coaches. What we see is a fanbase that feels betrayed and want to trash a lot of stuff they know nothing about.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:55 AM
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UnderstandingHogFan wrote:
That last sentence is entirely true? Name one of those coaches that did not get more money. But see, it isn't about money. Bielema could have petitioned for the $3.2 Million here and would have been successful. The reason Wisconsin fans are pissed is that it was an insult to our program. There are natural limitations at a school that averages 20,000 fans with a tiny budget that warrants an upgrade to a school with 80,000 fans and a huge budget. That simply isn't true for moving from Wisconsin to Arkansas. I have no ill-will for Bret, but to say that the quality of school doesn't matter when analyzing a coaching change is false. |
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:55 AM
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So let me understand this....you try to tell us all fan bases feel betrayed and it's all about the money.yet you feel our reaction is wrong because we feel betrayed. Do you see the irony here. Try dictionary.com if you need to look up a word. Just open another tab in your browser, the globe looking thing a ma jiggy.
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The score was 17-14.
And how was the way he left different? Jeff Long offered a job to Bielema and he accepted. Alvarez offered Andersen a job and he accepted.
That last sentence is entirely true? Name one of those coaches that did not get more money.
And the reason Arkansas fans came to this board is to learn about the new coaches. What we see is a fanbase that feels betrayed and want to trash a lot of stuff they know nothing about.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 12:59 AM
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UnderstandingHogFan wrote: It's funny that UW fans have vilified BB for leaving there for the UA job. Yes, he has taken assistants, that were not guaranteed jobs, to coach down here. But, the new coach, Andersen has done the same thing and you all are praising him. Is there that much of a double standard or just being entirely homers. Every coach takes assistants that he feels comfortable with. At least BB NEVER said he was not leaving like Andersen did. He came back and met with his players and told them himself. So Coach Andersen takes his complete staff all at once and leaves nothing at USU, and yet he's better than BB. I understand he left the great UW and ya'll felt betrayed, but, the way i read on here half of you wanted him gone. So why keep smearing him. It was a business decision, and face it, that is exactly what the coaching profession is nowadays. Be happy you all had a coach that has had ya'll near the top the last few years. 7 bowl games in 7 years. 3 conference championships and 3 BCS bowls. I'm betting USU feels the same about you as you feel about the UofA. But face it, it's strictly business. And to those saying the move is not the same, well, it is. Ark ST is hating Malzahn for leaving to Auburn. Cincinnati is hating Butch Jones for going to Tennessee. Wisconsin is hating BB for coming to Arkansas. The same with Utah St with UW. It's a money game now. And it doesn't matter if it's a step up, down, or a lateral move, everyone of these coaches got more money. Not to be mean, but you have no friggin clue what you are talking about. If you think that the vast majority of badger fans are upset at all that BB left you would be wrong (we will miss some assistants, but you can have Biff),and I would conclude the following about you: 1) You are not as well informed about Badger fans or the people of Wisconsin as you need to be to post that. 2) You are not as well informed about Bret as you need to be to post that. I'm sure you don't care to know more about Wisconsin or Badgernation, but something tells me you'll eventually get #2 figured out for yourself. Still something tells me you will look over his bio and W/L record one more time and be mistified. ON WISCONSIN! GOOD LUCK WITH BERT! |
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Posted: 12/20/2012 1:17 AM
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Where the fans there see this move as simply a lateral move that insults them it is not perceived that way here, as you'd expect. No, the UofA has not won an SEC title yet. It has been to the SEC CG game 3 times though. And with all due respect, who is more likely to go to the title game? SEC champ or B1G? With the playoff system coming up, who is more likely to get in without winning the conference championship? SEC or B1G? And with Ohio St and UM coming back to the top, UWs chances have gone drastically down. Yes, we had a down year. But this year's team had no guidance. It was basically the same one that beat K State in the Cotton the year before. Yes, the competition is harder but the risk/reward could be worth it. And yes he can now pay assistants to stay. And no, I do not feel like using paragraphs on a football board. I'm not applying for a job. As for calling us uneducated hillbillies, well, a lot of that is true. This is a very rural area and a lot of those uneducated people could teach you all a lot about things. We are farmers, and fisherman, and factory workers just like the people of Wisconsin. I ask one thing, Quit disrespecting the people down here. The coach I can understand ya'll doing that.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 1:25 AM
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UnderstandingHogFan wrote: Where the fans there see this move as simply a lateral move that insults them it is not perceived that way here, as you'd expect. No, the UofA has not won an SEC title yet. It has been to the SEC CG game 3 times though. And with all due respect, who is more likely to go to the title game? SEC champ or B1G? With the playoff system coming up, who is more likely to get in without winning the conference championship? SEC or B1G? And with Ohio St and UM coming back to the top, UWs chances have gone drastically down. Yes, we had a down year. But this year's team had no guidance. It was basically the same one that beat K State in the Cotton the year before. Yes, the competition is harder but the risk/reward could be worth it. And yes he can now pay assistants to stay. And no, I do not feel like using paragraphs on a football board. I'm not applying for a job. As for calling us uneducated hillbillies, well, a lot of that is true. This is a very rural area and a lot of those uneducated people could teach you all a lot about things. We are farmers, and fisherman, and factory workers just like the people of Wisconsin. I ask one thing, Quit disrespecting the people down here. The coach I can understand ya'll doing that. It's really hard not to "disrespect" them when we have sterling examples like you coming around and posting such insightful and meaningful commentary. I for one hold Arkansas Razorback fans in high esteem as adventurous and inventive people. I mean look at that lack of spacing and use of the return key; truly avant garde. But at least you got his name right. |
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Posted: 12/20/2012 1:52 AM
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Understanding? Hog Fan.
Do you not "understand" that 75% of the fan base of Wisconsin didn't like BB before he left? People just tolerated him because he won games. He didn't represent the values of the fans in his demeanor and never was inspirational or highly respected.
As far as both coaches leaving and a double standard? there is some truth to that, but...
One coach left after the bowl game. One left before.
One coach talked to all players one on one. One coach told his players as a group they weren't good enough to win a championship.
We shall see what the rest of the story brings...., maybe our new coach will disrespect his former program and conference and refer to them as little league. Maybe he will complain publicly that he left because of assistant coach pay. Maybe he will have been shown to have blindsided his AD who mentored him for nearly a decade.Maybe. Maybe not. Time will tell.
Look, you got a coach now that has won a lot of games, but people here aren't generally going to miss him. I think BB has a chance to do well down in Arkansas, but his ceiling as a game day coach and as a respected figure will likely hold him and your program back from the very top. People here are just done defending him and overlooking his flaws. And we are hurt that he is taking quality coaches by essentially holding them hostage. That is a big part.
Your fans were OK at the Cap One Bowl a few years ago. Not bad. Your state is a beautiful place, its just off the beaten path. Good luck- you will probably get a boost with BB.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 2:18 AM
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Dear "Understanding"HogFan,
Thank you so much for your insightful commentary about how we should feel. It's all cleared up now, we feel better.
First, we don't care that Bielema left. Wait, strike that. We care, just not all that much. We care more about the way he took shots at the UW and the Big Ten after he left, and the way he took our coaches after he said he wouldn't. BB is a Big Ten guy through and through. He was treated well at UW, he had the full backing of his athletic director, with whom he had a close personal relationship. There is no need for him to burn his bridges. And yet. Judging by his comments you would think he had a horrible job here at the UW with no support, no money and no fanbase.
Second, if you really want to get into a discussion about whose exit was classier in terms of how the coaches told their players, check the Twitter accounts of the USU players vs. the UW players. The USU players seem satisfied with what Andersen told them. The UW players mostly tweeted about how much better they felt after Barry announced he would coach the Rose Bowl. Bielema told his players in person, sure -- he told them that he wanted to win championships. Wow, way to thank the players who have given their all for you! Gary Andersen was genuinely upset that his players found out the way they did. He called every one of them -- he couldn't meet with them because school was no longer in session. And he told them that the program is not made by the coach, it's made by the players.
I wish no ill will toward Bielema. Now that my initial anger has passed, I'm curious to see how he does in SEC country. One thing I liked about Bielema is that he was genuine about recruiting good kids, about getting kids who stay out of trouble. He also truly seemed to believe in the UW walkon program and the way we did things here -- finding "diamonds in the rough" and coaching them up rather than trying to compete with the helmet schools for five-star players. I don't think those methods will fly at Arkansas, but we'll see.
Last, the Enter key is your friend and ours. It makes everyone's posts more readable. Please use it.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 2:34 AM
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Crazyatthecamp...that is honestly the most accurate summary I have read to date about the feelings of many fans in Cheeseland. Well done! Wish I had written it!
And honestly...even if BB was still here and we had a choice between keeping BB or getting GA, no question it would be GA. It takes too long to explain here, but wait until he starts breaking Hog fan hearts with game day decisions. I too wish them all well. It truly is a business. And I was ready for a new CEO 2 years ago. No hard feelings. Just happy it worked out for us. And I guess for the Hogs, too.
Lets all check back next year and compare notes.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 2:39 AM
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Brainy...also to the head of the class, please..nicely done.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 5:27 AM
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UnderstandingHogFan wrote: It's funny that UW fans have vilified BB for leaving there for the UA job. Yes, he has taken assistants, that were not guaranteed jobs, to coach down here. But, the new coach, Andersen has done the same thing and you all are praising him. Is there that much of a double standard or just being entirely homers. Every coach takes assistants that he feels comfortable with. At least BB NEVER said he was not leaving like Andersen did. He came back and met with his players and told them himself. So Coach Andersen takes his complete staff all at once and leaves nothing at USU, and yet he's better than BB. I understand he left the great UW and ya'll felt betrayed, but, the way i read on here half of you wanted him gone. So why keep smearing him. It was a business decision, and face it, that is exactly what the coaching profession is nowadays. Be happy you all had a coach that has had ya'll near the top the last few years. 7 bowl games in 7 years. 3 conference championships and 3 BCS bowls. I'm betting USU feels the same about you as you feel about the UofA. But face it, it's strictly business. And to those saying the move is not the same, well, it is. Ark ST is hating Malzahn for leaving to Auburn. Cincinnati is hating Butch Jones for going to Tennessee. Wisconsin is hating BB for coming to Arkansas. The same with Utah St with UW. It's a money game now. And it doesn't matter if it's a step up, down, or a lateral move, everyone of these coaches got more money. 1. If you spend the time and look carefully through threads here, you'll find that lots of very knowledgeable football fans think BB is a bad coach and are actually happy he is gone. Horrible in game manager, bad with timeouts, made 2 very bad calls to not go for 2 point conversions in games this year (when he knew or should have known we have a horrible field goal kicker) and instead elected to go into overtime. He lost both those games. He lost 2 consecutive Rose Bowl games (should have won against TCU but forgot he had a superior running game) and would have lost a 3rd in a row. He pounded on cupcakes and had a poor winning percentage in big games against big rivals. He somehow lost 3 games with Russell Wilson at QB, very good receivers, M. Ball at RB and Chris Borland as a linebacker. A real coach would have had the Badgers in the national championship game last year. 2. On top of that, he's a grade AAA butt head. He's arrogant, selfish, throws players and assistants under the bus (that's why so many left him over the years) and is immature and childish. 3. He did have some good assistants because he badly needs them. You should also know that he resisted upgrading the non-conference schedule because he wanted to have a high win loss percentage. 4. I think you will soon learn all about BB but it is too late for you now. I see you losing 7 games next year. I doubt BB will be around more than 3 seasons, but I understand that is a long time for a program like yours. We've had 2 coaches in 20 years.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 5:51 AM
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Buckysdorsalstripe wrote: Man, I'm really starting to believe what I hear about SEC school entrance requirements. Man, these folks have almost no ability to see nuance in anything. Starting to believe it? Just visit a campus sometime. Doesn't matter which one. Anybody with a 900 SAT and a C- average can attend your typical SEC diploma factory. |
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Posted: 12/20/2012 6:13 AM
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. This is from a fifth generation hillbilly who has a college education and owns his own companies in the state of Arkansas . Yes we are a small state but a very proud one. I didn't care that you trashed BB if I were a Badger fan I would have done the same and did trash Petrino last spring when he lost his job, but when you make it personal you cross the line. There are many natives of Arkansas who are hard working people who are proud of our state just like there are in Wisconsin .
I have never said anything bad about the people of Wisconsin and won't. I have several friends who live in Wisconsin . Your moderators aught to bring down the posts trashing the people of Arkansas I know Clay Henry our moderator personally and he would not have tolerated some of your posts in this thread. Just shows what ignorant people some of your posters really are. I have never cheered against the Badgers but will in the future. Hope you get the justice your program deserves. HOG FAN SINCE I WAS BORN!
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Posted: 12/20/2012 6:24 AM
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WhiteRiverHog wrote:. This is from a fifth generation hillbilly who has a college education and owns his own companies in the state of Arkansas . Yes we are a small state but a very proud one. I didn't care that you trashed BB if I were a Badger fan I would have done the same and did trash Petrino last spring when he lost his job, but when you make it personal you cross the line. There are many natives of Arkansas who are hard working people who are proud of our state just like there are in Wisconsin .
I have never said anything bad about the people of Wisconsin and won't. I have several friends who live in Wisconsin . Your moderators
aught to bring down the posts trashing the people of Arkansas I know Clay Henry our moderator personally and he would not have tolerated some of your posts in this thread. Just shows what ignorant people some of your posters really are. I have never cheered against the Badgers but will in the future. Hope you get the justice your program deserves. Thanks for stopping by.  |
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Posted: 12/20/2012 6:59 AM
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Gary Anderson didn't secretly 'apply' for the job in September by writing what some of us feel was an inappropriate and pandering letter to his future boss.  |
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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:29 AM
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I wonder how Hog fans will like BB when Kirk Ferentz is gone at Iowa and BB works behind the scenes for a year to get that gig lined up and then bolts them. Because that's what he's going to do, assuming he's not fired by Arkansas first.
"I'm a Badger for life, but I believe right now my heart lies heavily with the Badger family, not the NFL."
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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:36 AM
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To actually address the OP,
-Bielema told the players he wasn't leaving the NIGHT BEFORE he left. Andersen told his players we wasn't leaving to Cal, Colorado, or anywhere else at the time. He had no idea Wisconsin was on the table. That makes Bielema a liar.
-Bielema left before the Rose Bowl, Andersen left days after his bowl game.
-Andersen called every single player on his roster to talk to them after he took the Wisconsin job. Bielema held an all team meeting to basically give everyone the finger, then said if you don't want to say bye you can leave out the back.
So the two situations are different and the two men are different. I think it's perfectly apparent that Bielema left due to his new wife, since Madison is both a small town (Bielema's banged a sizable chunk of women) and a tough town, where Bielema wasn't given much credit. I think the move had very little to do with football.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:38 AM
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UnderstandingHogFan wrote: It's funny that UW fans have vilified BB for leaving there for the UA job. Yes, he has taken assistants, that were not guaranteed jobs, to coach down here. But, the new coach, Andersen has done the same thing and you all are praising him. Is there that much of a double standard or just being entirely homers. Every coach takes assistants that he feels comfortable with. At least BB NEVER said he was not leaving like Andersen did. He came back and met with his players and told them himself. So Coach Andersen takes his complete staff all at once and leaves nothing at USU, and yet he's better than BB. I understand he left the great UW and ya'll felt betrayed, but, the way i read on here half of you wanted him gone. So why keep smearing him. It was a business decision, and face it, that is exactly what the coaching profession is nowadays. Be happy you all had a coach that has had ya'll near the top the last few years. 7 bowl games in 7 years. 3 conference championships and 3 BCS bowls. I'm betting USU feels the same about you as you feel about the UofA. But face it, it's strictly business. And to those saying the move is not the same, well, it is. Ark ST is hating Malzahn for leaving to Auburn. Cincinnati is hating Butch Jones for going to Tennessee. Wisconsin is hating BB for coming to Arkansas. The same with Utah St with UW. It's a money game now. And it doesn't matter if it's a step up, down, or a lateral move, everyone of these coaches got more money. Not only am I not mad at BB for leaving, I'm extremely happy! He's your problem now. Andersen is a class act and I'm proud he's UW's coach. Secondly, don't be so sure that all those assistants BB's taking might have second thoughts and may stay at UW. Business is business ya all know. |
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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:51 AM
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WhiteRiverHog wrote:. This is from a fifth generation hillbilly who has a college education and owns his own companies in the state of Arkansas . Yes we are a small state but a very proud one. I didn't care that you trashed BB if I were a Badger fan I would have done the same and did trash Petrino last spring when he lost his job, but when you make it personal you cross the line. There are many natives of Arkansas who are hard working people who are proud of our state just like there are in Wisconsin .
I have never said anything bad about the people of Wisconsin and won't. I have several friends who live in Wisconsin . Your moderators aught to bring down the posts trashing the people of Arkansas I know Clay Henry our moderator personally and he would not have tolerated some of your posts in this thread. Just shows what ignorant people some of your posters really are. I have never cheered against the Badgers but will in the future. Hope you get the justice your program deserves. Oh give me a break and get off your high horse. I've seen tons of Arkansas fans trash fans of other teams. The year we played you guys in the bowl game Arkansas fans were horrible across the board. I hope you get the justice your program and new coach deserve. |
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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:58 AM
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UnderstandingHogFan wrote: The score was 17-14.
And how was the way he left different? Jeff Long offered a job to Bielema and he accepted. Alvarez offered Andersen a job and he accepted.
That last sentence is entirely true? Name one of those coaches that did not get more money.
And the reason Arkansas fans came to this board is to learn about the new coaches. What we see is a fanbase that feels betrayed and want to trash a lot of stuff they know nothing about. The difference isd your s cumbag of an AD showed a complete lack of professional courtesy by not asking our AD for permission to interview BB. Not the case between BA and USU's AD. Also, BB insulted the players with his "I'm leaving to go win a championship" line and has ripped on UW every time he opened his pie hole. GA hasn't done that once and also called each and every player personally to tell them he was leaving USU. I wouldn't expect $EC fans to get this. You don't have a clue what ethics and morals are.
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mcx99 wrote: Now we are seeing the real Wisconsin team. Still haven't learned how to finish off an opponent.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:59 AM
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Huge difference here! The UW coaches don't want to go to Ark. But Brett gave them an unrealistic deadline to decide because he knew UW couldn't name a coach for two weeks. So basically he is screwing with the minds of his good friends and coaches. The coaches felt like they better make a move even though they didn't want to. But Barry and Andersen will be poaching back very soon!
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Posted: 12/20/2012 8:02 AM
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WhiteRiverHog wrote: . This is from a fifth generation hillbilly who has a college education and owns his own companies in the state of Arkansas . Yes we are a small state but a very proud one. I didn't care that you trashed BB if I were a Badger fan I would have done the same and did trash Petrino last spring when he lost his job, but when you make it personal you cross the line. There are many natives of Arkansas who are hard working people who are proud of our state just like there are in Wisconsin .
I have never said anything bad about the people of Wisconsin and won't. I have several friends who live in Wisconsin . Your moderators aught to bring down the posts trashing the people of Arkansas I know Clay Henry our moderator personally and he would not have tolerated some of your posts in this thread. Just shows what ignorant people some of your posters really are. I have never cheered against the Badgers but will in the future. Hope you get the justice your program deserves. Arkansas fans should not be accusing others of being ignorant. Those in glass houses and all...
George2k5 wrote: This game is over.
mcx99 wrote: Now we are seeing the real Wisconsin team. Still haven't learned how to finish off an opponent.
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Said after Nebraska pulled within 14-10 in B1G Title Game. UW went on to win 70-31.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 8:08 AM
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One thing I look forward to is watching the Hogs fans trash Bert on their board in a few years after things fall apart.
It will happen with a guy like Bert and it will be funny to watch.
Arkansas fans - note the reactions of UW fans to losing the coach (we hated the way he left and the lack of grace/class shown, but nobody feared for the program) vs. the way Utah State fans react. Note what people thought about Bert the coach. You're getting that guy and it will be fun to watch him get rolled in the SEC ...
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Posted: 12/20/2012 8:11 AM
RE: Coach Bielema
I have generally positive impressions of Arkansas: the Ozarks are pretty, the natives friendly, the football is generally good and what's not to like about Walmart? I have to question why Arkansas, with all those positives, would hire Biff, or Petrino or John L. Smith - that is quite the rogue's gallery of high-character leaders for your football program. The salaries are flashy but damage to the public perceptions of Arkansas has been incalculable. Big money is being thrown at win at all costs hires without regard to character or ethics. Yes, we think of Arkansas, mediocrity and hillbillies in closer association than ever before because of those hires!
That said, I generally have not cared much for Biff even before this development: gaudy numbers with lots of good press for UW, but he's never fit in here with his juvenile demeanor and questionable coaching and management skills. Thank God we've had a Hall of Fame coach at AD to keep him under some control. I, like many here, want a coach with a modicum of maturity and at least the impression that he attended university and did not flunk out of middle school! Those impressive numbers were achieved against cupcakes by dumbing down the schedule and against the bottom feeders of the B1G, of which there are several. Yes, those championships are nice and the consecutive Rose Bowls is quite a streak of good PR. Unfortunately, they could have been so much more and have been missed opportunities more than anything else. Good luck Arkansas. You will need some of that. BTW, get a new AD - you'll get more respect.
Last edited 12/20/2012 8:12 AM by TheNewRed
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