Gotta love DP. He challenged BB quite a bit in what he was saying, especially the "championship" bullsh*t. He ended the interview with something like "do me and the coaching community a favor and don't go flirting with other jobs" and rolled his eyes at a lot of BBs side stepping.



EDIT: Here's where the interview will be posted

Bret, is that you?

Even after Bielema leaves Wisconsin he still has to be in Alvarezs shadow with going on all the espn radio show the day after Barry did.

I didn't hear the BB segment with DP, but in the segment prior to the interview DP ranted in general about coaches leaving programs mid contract.  So it doesn't surprise me that DP grilled BB knowing that Patrick has issues with the coaching carousel concept.

gpw81 wrote: Bret, is that you?

Based on the narcissism inherent in his username, it very well could be!

MRPRFCT wrote:

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Gotta love DP. He challenged BB quite a bit in what he was saying, especially the "championship" bullsh*t. He ended the interview with something like "do me and the coaching community a favor and don't go flirting with other jobs" and rolled his eyes at a lot of BBs side stepping.

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Shocking Douche Patrick would be like that. Shocking I tell ya.

The fact is with the new playoff format it will be easier for an SEC team, that pays its assistants well, to get to the playoffs.

Don't be simple minded.  These aren't PLAYOFFS!  These are still beauty contests selected by media types.  The real playoffs are in the FCS, D-2 & D-3 levels of football.  Let the sec raise their academic standards to the level of the Big 10 and Pac 12.  Let the sec stop overpaying coaches(AND PLAYERS!).  Then you might have competitive balance in major college football.

Bret is a douche and I used to like him.

MRPRFCT wrote:

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--- spottedbadger wrote:

Gotta love DP. He challenged BB quite a bit in what he was saying, especially the "championship" bullsh*t. He ended the interview with something like "do me and the coaching community a favor and don't go flirting with other jobs" and rolled his eyes at a lot of BBs side stepping.

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Shocking Douche Patrick would be like that. Shocking I tell ya.

The fact is with the new playoff format it will be easier for an SEC team, that pays its assistants well, to get to the playoffs.

Dan Patrick is a douche? He is perhaps the best sports talk guy out there...

You sound like a girl who just got dumped. Look forward to a better future for UW football.

haha Bielema got owned

Bret's a f-ing liar. He told the players that he had a better chance of winning a title at Arkansas than Wisconsin. When Patrick pointed out the absurdity of that comment meathead tried to say that he meant that he had a better chance of winning an SEC title than a B1G title. Is he so stupid that he thinks people won't remember the three B1G championships he's already won at the UW.

Nobody's brought up the most interesting comment in the interview.  Patrick asked him why he didn't discuss the Arkansas job with Barry before he took it.  He essentially answered that he was afraid Barry would talk him out of it.

Lets see, you are so insecure that you are afraid somebody will be able to convince you to do something you don't want to?  Or is someone else influencing him (his wife?) and telling him he needs to get out from under Alavarez' shadow.  That's my guess.  This guys leads young men?  He sounds like an 18 year old recruit who's afraid to tell a coach that he's chosen another school to attend.

BB was a coward when it came to talking with BA. He knew he owed BA that courtesy but was too afraid to do the right thing. BA may have pointed out that the assistants left last year because one of them became a head coach and others were close friends with PC. Another got a promotion to coordinator. PC was paid well as an offensive coordinator. There was no reason to offer that salary to another coach just coming to UW. BA would also have pointed out how close UW was to a national championship last year. A few different coaching decisions and maybe it would have happened. BB was afraid BA would have negated all the reasons he ended up giving the media for leaving. My opinion only, BB was afraid that if he didn't win next year with all the players coming back he would have been criticized even worse than he has been this year for losing close games.

GoWisky wrote:

MRPRFCT wrote:

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Gotta love DP. He challenged BB quite a bit in what he was saying, especially the "championship" bullsh*t. He ended the interview with something like "do me and the coaching community a favor and don't go flirting with other jobs" and rolled his eyes at a lot of BBs side stepping.

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Shocking Douche Patrick would be like that. Shocking I tell ya.

The fact is with the new playoff format it will be easier for an SEC team, that pays its assistants well, to get to the playoffs.

Arkansas will never be a one loss team under Bielema.  Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Wrong.  At some point between the evening 9/21/13 and the evening of 10/5/13, Arkansas will be a one loss team.

There is a high probability that you would be correct!
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Nobody's brought up the most interesting comment in the interview.  Patrick asked him why he didn't discuss the Arkansas job with Barry before he took it.  He essentially answered that he was afraid Barry would talk him out of it.

Lets see, you are so insecure that you are afraid somebody will be able to convince you to do something you don't want to?  Or is someone else influencing him (his wife?) and telling him he needs to get out from under Alavarez' shadow.  That's my guess.  This guys leads young men?  He sounds like an 18 year old recruit who's afraid to tell a coach that he's chosen another school to attend.

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Patrick said he he would toast BB yesterday after Barrys interview,  and he did.
DP show is the best on tv/radio,  thanks for not letting BB's narrowminded crap get in the way of true opinions. 

Now let BB mire in Hog mud........

OnWisc94 wrote:

GoWisky wrote:

MRPRFCT wrote:

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--- spottedbadger wrote:

Gotta love DP. He challenged BB quite a bit in what he was saying, especially the "championship" bullsh*t. He ended the interview with something like "do me and the coaching community a favor and don't go flirting with other jobs" and rolled his eyes at a lot of BBs side stepping.

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Shocking Douche Patrick would be like that. Shocking I tell ya.

The fact is with the new playoff format it will be easier for an SEC team, that pays its assistants well, to get to the playoffs.

Arkansas will never be a one loss team under Bielema.  Could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Wrong.  At some point between the evening 9/21/13 and the evening of 10/5/13, Arkansas will be a one loss team.

Damn!  You got me...

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Mrs. Bielema has been telling Bret how much he needs to be his own man, blah, blah, blah.  I have two letters for Bret, that happen to be Paul Winchell's initials.

dhady wrote:
There is a high probability that you would be correct!
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Nobody's brought up the most interesting comment in the interview.  Patrick asked him why he didn't discuss the Arkansas job with Barry before he took it.  He essentially answered that he was afraid Barry would talk him out of it.

Lets see, you are so insecure that you are afraid somebody will be able to convince you to do something you don't want to?  Or is someone else influencing him (his wife?) and telling him he needs to get out from under Alavarez' shadow.  That's my guess.  This guys leads young men?  He sounds like an 18 year old recruit who's afraid to tell a coach that he's chosen another school to attend.

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As douchey as Uthoff's departure - difference is Uthoff is an iowan kid, Bielema is a 2-faced, backstabbing loser!!!

DK913 wrote: It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Mrs. Bielema has been telling Bret how much he needs to be his own man, blah, blah, blah.  I have two letters for Bret, that happen to be Paul Winchell's initials.

dhady wrote:
There is a high probability that you would be correct!
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--- DK913 wrote:

Nobody's brought up the most interesting comment in the interview.  Patrick asked him why he didn't discuss the Arkansas job with Barry before he took it.  He essentially answered that he was afraid Barry would talk him out of it.

Lets see, you are so insecure that you are afraid somebody will be able to convince you to do something you don't want to?  Or is someone else influencing him (his wife?) and telling him he needs to get out from under Alavarez' shadow.  That's my guess.  This guys leads young men?  He sounds like an 18 year old recruit who's afraid to tell a coach that he's chosen another school to attend.

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+1000 to both...and the back tracking and BS spin in that interview is laughable...to even insinuate he meant anything other than a National Championship is insulting...he went out and acted like Brett does and then his handlers got to him and told him he's coming off like an arrogant a$$ so he tones it down, spins and deflects...as Tony Soprano would say...he's dead to me...

Hey. Just remember "if you always tell the truth then you never have to worry about what you've said." That is until you change schools.

stlbadger wrote: As douchey as Uthoff's departure - difference is Uthoff is an iowan kid, Bielema is a 2-faced, backstabbing loser!!!

That was great by DP, what was funny was how he made BB listen to BA say that we could have won a Natl Title last year with Russell. And my favorite part was that DP said BA wants to schedule a home and home with Arkansas, and BB said he welcomes that idea

I heard the interview.  And while I no longer care all that much about Bielema and what he is doing/saying, had I been drinking anything during that interview it would've been spit take theater with water coming out of my nose as I laughed as he tried, and failed, to backtrack on the whole having a better chance at a championship thing.  Barry and DP called him out on it, and he had nowhere to turn other than lie or say, "Yeah, I said it.  I mean it" and look like a douche and, to some, and idiot for saying it.  

I have actually been struck several times by the things he's said since taking that job. If I were an Arkansas fan and hear him say about Alvarez coaching the Rose, "Maybe now they'll win one" I'd have been like...oh great, we have a guy who can't win the big one.  And the previously mentioned comment about not telling Barry until it was done because Barry is a very convincing person.  Which I don't doubt, but really?  If you're confident in your decision what does it matter how convincing Barry is?

HCSmooth wrote: ntil it was done because Barry is a very convincing person.  Which I don't doubt, but really?  If you're confident in your decision what does it matter how convincing Barry is?

This one made me laugh and I wish DP pushed him on it. Let me get this straight - you were so confident taking this job was the next step in your career and what you needed to do, that you were afraid you would be talked out of it by your boss? So instead of doing the right thing and giving Barry a heads up with some time to manage the PR fall-out, you just give him word after you've accepted. Seriously? Have a spine and give notice like a man.

Did anyone else hate it when poor Brett said "it hurt me too" RE not giving Barry the courtesy of letting him know ahead of time what was going on...seriously...you were in control Brett, don't whine about being "hurt" regarding something you could have changed by doing the right thing and being upfront with the guy that gave you this opportunity...pure classless move(s)....

BuckYeah wrote:

HCSmooth wrote: ntil it was done because Barry is a very convincing person.  Which I don't doubt, but really?  If you're confident in your decision what does it matter how convincing Barry is?

This one made me laugh and I wish DP pushed him on it. Let me get this straight - you were so confident taking this job was the next step in your career and what you needed to do, that you were afraid you would be talked out of it by your boss? So instead of doing the right thing and giving Barry a heads up with some time to manage the PR fall-out, you just give him word after you've accepted. Seriously? Have a spine and give notice like a man.

You've given notice before without accepting the other job? Seriously? That's how it works 99.9% of the time.

So much butthurt in this thread. Don't worry, guys. You'll get a good coach and probably good assistants. You won't be able to keep them, obviously, but you'll be fine.

Bacchus1 wrote:

BuckYeah wrote:

HCSmooth wrote: ntil it was done because Barry is a very convincing person.  Which I don't doubt, but really?  If you're confident in your decision what does it matter how convincing Barry is?

This one made me laugh and I wish DP pushed him on it. Let me get this straight - you were so confident taking this job was the next step in your career and what you needed to do, that you were afraid you would be talked out of it by your boss? So instead of doing the right thing and giving Barry a heads up with some time to manage the PR fall-out, you just give him word after you've accepted. Seriously? Have a spine and give notice like a man.

You've given notice before without accepting the other job? Seriously? That's how it works 99.9% of the time.

I don't know how to think about this.  It seems a bit wrong to not let Barry know.  I realize that in my own career I'd accept jobs without having notified my boss.  Seems like it's a different process and/or expectation for coaches.  

My thing with Bret's comments were less about that he didn't tell Barry, but that he was afraid to tell Barry.

This was hilarious listening to Bielema backtrack

I found it a bit odd that DP is ripping the coaches for flirting with others while under contract.

15 years ago, DP was at the apex of the profession and getting looks from many, many other networks, including for morning news program positions.  You can't tell me he didn't have offers and long dinners without telling his bosses at Bristol about it?

Bret could have handled this far better and I am surprised the Arkansas AD revealed that Bret sent him a letter in September, essentially campaigning for the opening.  Long should have NEVER revealed that.

Yet I also know where this is going.  If he tells Barry that he's going to interview at Arkansas, that kills his leverage back at Wisconsin.  If Bret doesn't take the job or doesn't even get the offer, every time Bret isn't staying late breaking down video and schemes, Barry will think he has one foot out the door.

He didn't break his contract.  Bret had an "out" that was negotiated - a measly $1 million.  That's a credit to his agent.  

For those of us who do work in positions where we have contracts and restrictions on competition, if your skills and performance draw the interest of a competitor, the next question on the phone call is "what is the language in your contract?"

*IF* Bret mentioned in his September letter that, "hey, I've got a $1 million buyout" and that shot him to the top of the list, that made it easier for Long to pull the trigger.

I almost never have a fault with a coach willing to move up to a "better" job.  Arkansas isn't a better "job" in 2012 but it has a better upside.  Yet recruiting the southeast kids to Fayetteville is much more of a challenge than recruiting Midwestern kids to Madison.  Arkansas is so isolated from the rest of the conference.

Bret probably was tired of the shadow but, I think more than that, he sees Urban Meyer going 12-0 and Bret knows, deep down, he won't be the "hot, young coach" for much longer.  He will become the guy finishing second or third every year in the division.  

With Arkansas, Bret probably won't do much with Saban and Miles at Alabama and LSU.  But, let's say they retire or leave within four years and Bret has them in position where they're 9-4 or 10-3 most years.  That is when his window opens to win the SEC.  Spurrier will be gone from South Carolina in four years.  So will Richt from Georgia unless he ever beats Alabama.  

As solid as the SEC is right now, three or four years down the road, these high-end coaches will likely be gone, replaced by coaches that have to "follow a legend".  Never easy.

Looking at the long term, smart move by Bret.