The team just had its biggest win in three years.  Enjoy it.  Did anyone watch Thomas celebrating with the students after the game?  We have freshman who are playing hard.  They seem excited about playing here.  If you can’t see that the future is bright for Wake basketball, then you just don’t want to see it.

dan87 wrote: There's so much to talk about with our players right now, there's no need to even talk about the head coach. Everything's been said a million times, but hardly anyone here has posted anything about, say Moto or Madison or half of our players. We have a bunch of interesting players with different strengths and weaknesses, so there should be loads of talk about them. The coach isn't going anywhere this season, and everything to say about him has already been said. But there's loads to discuss about our players.

Madison for example has holes in his game, but he is fast and has great court vision. We've needed a PG like him for years. If he can just improve his shooting from the field a bit so they have to guard him, and improve his free throws, he would be a hell of a PG. Even if he can't do those things, he's already a valuable role player.

dan87 wrote: There's so much to talk about with our players right now, there's no need to even talk about the head coach. Everything's been said a million times, but hardly anyone here has posted anything about, say Moto or Madison or half of our players. We have a bunch of interesting players with different strengths and weaknesses, so there should be loads of talk about them. The coach isn't going anywhere this season, and everything to say about him has already been said. But there's loads to discuss about our players.

Madison for example has holes in his game, but he is fast and has great court vision. We've needed a PG like him for years. If he can just improve his shooting from the field a bit so they have to guard him, and improve his free throws, he would be a hell of a PG. Even if he can't do those things, he's already a valuable role player.

There it goes again.... Listen to what Dan said.  Stop ******** about the coach endlessly, and for the rest of you, stop praising him incessantly anytime something good happens. Instead could we start talking about the players, and the games?  It seems almost everyone here only wants to claim to know more than everyone else about who are coach should be, meanwhile forgetting what it means to be a fan.  Our players are busting their asses every game now and putting up results better than anyone expected, and really better than almost anyone could expect from a group of largely freshman in the ACC.  I haven't been in a position to see Wake play much the last few years, but what I'm seeing from this team in terms of ball movement on offense and intensity on defense is better than I remember in even some of the glory seasons. And certainly better than what I was expecting after following this message board the last few years.   

Let's enjoy this.  If that's not possible for you, then could you just shut up and let the rest of us do so?

Gazpacho wrote: Jones seems to be a smoother player than Ish with perhaps even less shooting ability.  But he's so young, there is no reason to expect that he can't improve significantly, and I'm sure he's working on it.  He may not reach J. Gray levels but remember how much Downey improved as a shooter.  With his speed, he doesn't even need Taron's range.  Just being able to finish better in the lane would make him very dangerous.

Deac73 wrote: I didn't say that we would win every game nor look good every game, but if you can't discern the improvement and the sheer will out on the court, you're blinded by your own negativity. What a dark cloud!

noTcells wrote:

Deac73 wrote: I didn't say that we would win every game nor look good every game, but if you can't discern the improvement and the sheer will out on the court, you're blinded by your own negativity. What a dark cloud!

You don't get it, do you?  Making the NCAA tournament shouldn't be the objective, it should be an afterthought.  Bz's absolute ceiling is making the NCAAs whereas that was the floor for most of Skip and Dino's teams.  I hope that you don't run a business since you clearly don't expect much.

73.  It's gonna take a lot more that this one game squeaker for me to have any respect for this coach.  I respect and pull for the players, but this coach
,on the hard facts of record,has a aong way to go to gain respect in this conference. This is a business.  It takes some time and a record to prove your merits. "You've come a long way from St. Louie, but baby, you've still got a long way to go.."  Wake one squeaker at home tonight. I buy the team, but not the Bz.