paladeac wrote: Childress' take: Bzdelik had to clean up the program first. We're playing a lot of young players and there's no substitute for time for both players and bodies to mature.

FWIW from a Hall of Famer who loves Wake more than anyone, and, as he said, has blood in the game.

ImissRandolph wrote:

paladeac wrote: Childress' take: Bzdelik had to clean up the program first. We're playing a lot of young players and there's no substitute for time for both players and bodies to mature.

FWIW from a Hall of Famer who loves Wake more than anyone, and, as he said, has blood in the game.

Clean up the program from what?

paladeac wrote: Childress' take: Bzdelik had to clean up the program first. We're playing a lot of young players and there's no substitute for time for both players and bodies to mature.

FWIW from a Hall of Famer who loves Wake more than anyone, and, as he said, has blood in the game.

lonerdonor wrote: RoRo, what is opinion or speculation except #3? The others are verifiable or obvious. I am just wondering how many 20+ point losses we will have this year when we get in the meat of our ACC schedule.

Enamored by the NBA?  Really?  You've had several weeks to troll around here and you came up with that?

I would take the unlikely link that both of them worked at Northwestern years earlier as a more plausible connection.
Or that Bz daughter was a student at Wake, and they formed a relationship during visits.
Or that Bz had kidnapped Ron's family and held them for ransom in exchange for a job.  

Any of those are more plausible than enamored by the NBA.  If you are looking for culture change, the cesspool of the NBA is not where one starts.  That idea is purely your opinion, and appears to have been formed while high with the Nuggets.

Bz does not relate well to players?   Have you actually asked the players this?   Or is this your opinion based on observations?  If based on observations, then I would refer you back to the word "opinion."

Point 3, as you pointed out, is pure speculation.

Point 4 is true.  The man should be judged on his performance of his job responsibilities.  What we don't know (or at least I don't), is how was that job defined for him when he accepted the role.  Surely, on-court performance is part of that.  But, if he were given wider-reaching direction, then the on-court results could be diminished greatly in the evaluation of success or failure.  I know what we were told in the press conference ... don't believe much of that.

Point 5 is opinion.  You could strengthen your opinion by citing examples where a specific coaching change may have changed the outcome -- not a different person on the bench, but different strategy on the floor.  Keep in mind that your tools -- the players, the bench, the clock, the opponents -- all remain the same.

Point 6 can be true.  Top notch is opinion, and that opinion of our personnel varies widely, depending on the argument people wish to make about the coach.  If it is his recruiting, then our personnel stink.  If it is his bench ability, then our personnel is great and underused.  Either can be true.  Or false.

Point 7 is based entirely on your opinion, which is based on the outcomes on the floor.  I don't think anyone is pleased with our record.  But, as I mentioned earlier, I don't know what Bz's specific marching orders were when he took the job, so I don't know that I can summarize whether he has been successful in the eyes of those who pay his salary.  The on-court record has been a failure.  Off-court, I don't know.

Opinion & speculation.

And, Mocksville, don't sell me short. I am a smart ass.

Davidson Deac II wrote:
I-AA is football.  There is no I-AA for basketball.

appgrad wrote: I do think the letters NBA had something to do with the hiring, I think Ron was tired of seeing Dino's teams and Skip's team come out of the gate so strong, then once the league had time to make adjustments , either at half time of for the next game we had been figured out.Neither coach's strong point was making needed adjustments. So Ron see's all of Buzzes experience and assumes that he must have a hight basketball IQ and makes the hire.

RacerDeac wrote:

Davidson Deac II wrote:
I-AA is football.  There is no I-AA for basketball.

Technically, there's no I-AA for football either.

appgrad wrote: I do think the letters NBA had something to do with the hiring, I think Ron was tired of seeing Dino's teams and Skip's team come out of the gate so strong, then once the league had time to make adjustments , either at half time of for the next game we had been figured out.Neither coach's strong point was making needed adjustments. So Ron see's all of Buzzes experience and assumes that he must have a hight basketball IQ and makes the hire.