The AD is treating the fan base like absolute children, and they have been since day one.

They sold us absolute crap about Jeff Bzdelik when they hired him and spoon-fed it to us.

Then they told us that it was about culture and always had been (when parents mess up they just lie to their kids and pretend like it's what they meant to do!!!!). 

They've coddled Jeff Bzdelik and protected him at all costs despite him having the worst three years in ACC history. 

To think that our fan base "deserves" this because the "lunatic fringe" called in and couldn't be respectful is completely BS.

Wake Forest is going through the worst three years in ACC history...think about that. The 72 games that Jeff Bzdelik has coached at Wake Forest are worse than any other coach in the history of the league (Matt Doherty, Les Robinson, Bob Staak to name a few of the recent ones...).

Yet it's somehow the fan base's fault for acting immaturely? That is the biggest pile of crap that I have ever read and you absolutely know it.

wakeforest22890 wrote:

Chrispy wrote:

wfdeacons9 wrote:


I know what you are referring to, I mean other than that. Those individuals actually preside over huge universities with enormous fanbases. They also have shown an ability to succeed. Bzzz and Wellman should probably do something positive before you compare them to the leaders of unc and nc state.

The point is this fan base used to be better than the lunatic fringe that caused this practice to end at UNC and NCSU.  Now, because some people were proud of calling and ranting at the basketball coach, we've lost the opportunity to ask any questions live.

I'm disappointed by the move, but like others I did not realize NCSU and UNC had already done this.  As said above, I wonder if we get that chance back.

You used to be a good poster Chrispy. Your descent might be even worse than Bzdelik and Ronny's. Bring back the normal Chrispy. We know he's there somewhere deep down...way way deep down.

wakeforest22890 wrote:

Chrispy wrote:

wfdeacons9 wrote:


I know what you are referring to, I mean other than that. Those individuals actually preside over huge universities with enormous fanbases. They also have shown an ability to succeed. Bzzz and Wellman should probably do something positive before you compare them to the leaders of unc and nc state.

The point is this fan base used to be better than the lunatic fringe that caused this practice to end at UNC and NCSU.  Now, because some people were proud of calling and ranting at the basketball coach, we've lost the opportunity to ask any questions live.

I'm disappointed by the move, but like others I did not realize NCSU and UNC had already done this.  As said above, I wonder if we get that chance back.

You used to be a good poster Chrispy. Your descent might be even worse than Bzdelik and Ronny's. Bring back the normal Chrispy. We know he's there somewhere deep down...way way deep down.

deacsfan27 wrote:

The AD is treating the fan base like absolute children, and they have been since day one.

They sold us absolute crap about Jeff Bzdelik when they hired him and spoon-fed it to us.

Then they told us that it was about culture and always had been (when parents mess up they just lie to their kids and pretend like it's what they meant to do!!!!). 

They've coddled Jeff Bzdelik and protected him at all costs despite him having the worst three years in ACC history. 

To think that our fan base "deserves" this because the "lunatic fringe" called in and couldn't be respectful is completely BS.

Wake Forest is going through the worst three years in ACC history...think about that. The 72 games that Jeff Bzdelik has coached at Wake Forest are worse than any other coach in the history of the league (Matt Doherty, Les Robinson, Bob Staak to name a few of the recent ones...).

Yet it's somehow the fan base's fault for acting immaturely? That is the biggest pile of crap that I have ever read and you absolutely know it.

NewBernDeac wrote: Just absorb what he is saying: Wellman said. “And this is our show. This is an opportunity to talk about Wake Forest basketball, the direction we’re going. And if the fans want to ask a question, we’ll respond to a question."  (Implying to me that IF they dont want to ask a question, then buzz off) 
Its their athletic program not ours. Sad and it clearly states what has become obvious.

But I was surprised to read North Carolina and N.C. State have both changed the formats of how callers to their coaches’ shows ask questions. Roy Williams and Mark Gottfried do not take direct questions from callers, according to media-relations officials from the schools

P4nthers11 wrote:
We must have different definitions of ranting. Given the current state of WF basketball what  questions do you think Bzz should have to answer? Only the creampuff ones?

RacerDeac wrote:

wfdeacons9 wrote:

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--- Chrispy wrote:

wfdeacons9 wrote:


I know what you are referring to, I mean other than that. Those individuals actually preside over huge universities with enormous fanbases. They also have shown an ability to succeed. Bzzz and Wellman should probably do something positive before you compare them to the leaders of unc and nc state.

The point is this fan base used to be better than the lunatic fringe that caused this practice to end at UNC and NCSU.  Now, because some people were proud of calling and ranting at the basketball coach, we've lost the opportunity to ask any questions live.

I'm disappointed by the move, but like others I did not realize NCSU and UNC had already done this.  As said above, I wonder if we get that chance back.

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The time when unc or nc state have 3 straight years under one coach of sub 200 ken Pom ratings is the time when the people who want bzzzzz head on a platter can be compared to the lunatic fringe at unc or nc state. If unc had 3 years like we've had they may bomb the university.

The fact that it took year 3 before anyone even asked a tough question on the call-in show demonstrates just how non-lunatic fringe our fanbase is.

Middy wrote: If this is the direction Wake is going, save money and cancel the show. Whatever small pieces of relevant information that is shared could be provided in pre or post game interviews.

I don't fault the school for wanting to shield the coach. His hiring was a huge mistake on the AD's part and there is no need to subject him to personal attacks. I think the focus of our concern should be those in leadership positions who ruined our athletic program. We need leadership who will make it fun to be a fan.

We are losing money in ticket revenue that is critical to be able to invest in the programs. We can't afford not to make change or we will continue to fall further behind. The article from the Raleigh paper showed how far we are behind in revenue. The fact that we showed a profit is meaningless. We need the dollars to invest in our programs and the apathy that has resulted from poor management is putting us further behind every day.

BracesDeaconess wrote: I agree w/Chrispy and Paladeac in that it is disappointing that things have come to this, but if we'd had fans who'd asked tough questions in a smart and respectful manner, then we'd still have the on-air questions. The fact that other programs had to move to the not-live format in the past reinforces the fact that people cannot be trusted to behave themselves.

So now we've lost a direct connection w/ our coaches. Very sad.

But you can still send questions and get them answered -- the radio guys will just cherry pick the questions that come in each week. It will actually help the show, as it will give everyone involved time to prepare and be less spontaneous.  They will be able to develop detailed answers to questions and look up stats to support their position. So, it may be a good thing for getting more information out to the fans.

But I will miss the ability to talk with the coaches live. It was nice to have one-on-one time with them.

ChrisL68 wrote: The other board has devolved into groupthink nonsense on this issue. I am not going to blame the fans. People are fed up with Bzzzz and things were eventually going to come to this.

But you can't just let the call-in show devolve into a constant stream of people ******** at the head coach.

RoRo wrote:

BracesDeaconess wrote: I agree w/Chrispy and Paladeac in that it is disappointing that things have come to this, but if we'd had fans who'd asked tough questions in a smart and respectful manner, then we'd still have the on-air questions. The fact that other programs had to move to the not-live format in the past reinforces the fact that people cannot be trusted to behave themselves.

So now we've lost a direct connection w/ our coaches. Very sad.

But you can still send questions and get them answered -- the radio guys will just cherry pick the questions that come in each week. It will actually help the show, as it will give everyone involved time to prepare and be less spontaneous.  They will be able to develop detailed answers to questions and look up stats to support their position. So, it may be a good thing for getting more information out to the fans.

But I will miss the ability to talk with the coaches live. It was nice to have one-on-one time with them.

Well said.  The lunatic fringe have won, and we all have lost.  And, it is a delight to see people talk about cowardice while hiding behind (multiple) anonymous names to trash a program where their kids tried (kinda) to play.  

Fortunately, this is a small enough school that you can still get one-on-one time with the coaches.  Just go talk to them.

I can definitely see why UNC and NCSU did this.  If you are Roy Williams, do you want to sit quietly while Jethro from Henderson discusses the value of playing a zone against Presbyterian?  Or why All-American #1 makes the best bounce passes?  Their fan base is full of people who think they are world-class coaches because they read a book about Dean Smith or played hoops in High School.  

Our fan base has devolved such that there are no questions about basketball because every thinks they are victims of a giant conspiracy.  If you changed the subject matter to just about anything, the corresponding responses of our fans are borderline lunacy.  Why would you engage in conversation with that group?  "OK, Coach, our next caller is Brian from Cooleemee.  He'd like to discuss why there are black helicopters over the campus on the days after games.  After, Jim from Kernersville would like to discuss the Lego recreation he has done of Tony Woods' alleged fight.  Apparently, when plastic bricks are introduced, it is clear that his departure from school was part of your conspiracy to ruin Wake Forest."