From today's W-SJ:

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A few names have surfaced as top candidates, including interim coach Scott Satterfield, Wake Forest assistant Lonnie Galloway, Arkansas assistant Tim Horton, Virginia Tech assistant and former N.C. State head coach Mike O’Cain and former UNC assistant John Shoop.

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Galloway spent 3 years as an assistant in Boone before moving to West Virginia, so he is familiar with the program as well as the area (he played at Western Carolina.)

There are more experienced candidates listed here, but if App wants to go with a young coach, Galloway makes sense.  Would certainly hurt the coaching staff to lose a very good recent hire, but this would be a great first head coaching job for Galloway.

Mixed emotions. Happy for Lonnie. Pissed that Grobe, has not already kicked LOBO to the curb and signed up Lonnie as new OC.  Get off your arse and make some changes.  THis would just continue the trend of the better pups in the litter getting bought and  moving on and we are left with the runts.

No totally related to this thread except for the App State part, but did anybody see the ASU player who shot the worst free throw ever, as coined by ESPn?

What exactly has Galloway done to earn an FBS OC coordinator position? I am glad we have him. Like his attitude and ability to recruit. I am not sure it is obvious he needs to be the OC.

WFU1977 wrote: Mixed emotions. Happy for Lonnie. Pissed that Grobe, has not already kicked LOBO to the curb and signed up Lonnie as new OC.  Get off your arse and make some changes.  THis would just continue the trend of the better pups in the litter getting bought and  moving on and we are left with the runts.

I hope you have figured out by now that Grobe will never fire Lobo.  It is possible Lobo could go head coach somewhere; but Grobe seems pretty loyal to coaches, especially Lobo.  I am not a Lobo fan, but have decided Grobe and Lobo go together, for better or worse.  Also, my observations would be from this past year, Lobo did try to change things around when the O-Line was decimated by injuries.  With poor blocking, it severely limits what you are able to do, and Lobo did try to use plays to get the ball out of Tanner's hand more quickly, which seemed wise.

Jims son is married to Lobo's wifes sister! He's not going anywhere, I mean our offense has not only been horrible this season it has gotten worse, and worse since lobo took over years ago! This season we ranked in total offense 117th out of 120 D1 teams, and broke the NCAA punt atempt record! WOW

BeachDeac82 wrote:

WFU1977 wrote: Mixed emotions. Happy for Lonnie. Pissed that Grobe, has not already kicked LOBO to the curb and signed up Lonnie as new OC.  Get off your arse and make some changes.  THis would just continue the trend of the better pups in the litter getting bought and  moving on and we are left with the runts.

I hope you have figured out by now that Grobe will never fire Lobo.  It is possible Lobo could go head coach somewhere; but Grobe seems pretty loyal to coaches, especially Lobo.  I am not a Lobo fan, but have decided Grobe and Lobo go together, for better or worse.  Also, my observations would be from this past year, Lobo did try to change things around when the O-Line was decimated by injuries.  With poor blocking, it severely limits what you are able to do, and Lobo did try to use plays to get the ball out of Tanner's hand more quickly, which seemed wise.

Agreed... Wake did not have an offensive line this year.  The group of guys occupying the spots were at best half the third string from the year before mixed with a couple of defensive linemen that came over.  It was amazing that they played as well/poorly as they did.  Lobo tried about every style he had in the book looking for some type of identity that worked.  I am not a Lobo fan of game time calling, but cannot fault this years effort on the creative side.

BeachDeac82 wrote:

WFU1977 wrote: Mixed emotions. Happy for Lonnie. Pissed that Grobe, has not already kicked LOBO to the curb and signed up Lonnie as new OC.  Get off your arse and make some changes.  THis would just continue the trend of the better pups in the litter getting bought and  moving on and we are left with the runts.

I hope you have figured out by now that Grobe will never fire Lobo.  It is possible Lobo could go head coach somewhere; but Grobe seems pretty loyal to coaches, especially Lobo.  I am not a Lobo fan, but have decided Grobe and Lobo go together, for better or worse.  Also, my observations would be from this past year, Lobo did try to change things around when the O-Line was decimated by injuries.  With poor blocking, it severely limits what you are able to do, and Lobo did try to use plays to get the ball out of Tanner's hand more quickly, which seemed wise.

What was the reason all of the other years?  It is always something.  He just isn't a good OC, otherwise that would have revealed itself by now.  Unfortunately the 1 or 2 years out of 12 that we broke the top 70 have been the exception.  And I know, rankings are deceptive.  But it puts so much pressure on our defense, knowing that we can't move the ball.  We are just trying to shorten the game.

From reading some of the App State boards, it appears most people there support Satterfield (App OC and interim HC) for continuity or Tim Horton (8 years as assistant at App.)

After watching our receivers drop balls, run bad routes, etc this season, I'm not sold on Galloway being the next greatest thing. Perhaps he'd make a better OC, but the results on the field aren't enough for promotion at this time IMO. It would have to be for reasons that only those internal to the program can know (i.e. he has great ideas and advice for the direction of our O during coaches meetings, etc).

Agreed that outside of Campanaro, the WRs did not have a good season. That said, the performance of a particular position doesn't necessarily say anything about the ability to design an offense or call plays in the midst of a game.

If ever a season called for a change in the OC, it would be this one.

Chrispy wrote: Agreed that outside of Campanaro, the WRs did not have a good season. That said, the performance of a particular position doesn't necessarily say anything about the ability to design an offense or call plays in the midst of a game.

If ever a season called for a change in the OC, it would be this one.

No doubt...I'm just wondering what our fans have seen that make us think Galloway would be the guy to replace Lobo. He may be brilliant as an OC, but there's nothing we've seen from the stands that could indicate as much.

At this point, I'd take a well trained dog at OC over Lobo though.

At this point, I think it was the performance of Givens last year and Camp this year, who were the best offensive players the past 2 seasons.

And I think many people want to see someone outside the veteran assistants get a chance.

He also coached a lot of good wr's at App and WVU. Now that could have just been the receivers were good and made him look good, just like this year, the receivers (outside of Camp) were just bad and made him look bad.

I would be stunned if Lobo is just outright fired. The most likely scenario is that Grobe calls in a favor somewhere else, but given our recent performance I think it would be a non-BCS program. Therefore I just don't see it happening. Unless Lobo thinks he is taking over when Grobe leaves, it seems like he would be out looking in the next year or 2.

If Lobo takes over for Grobe, it be like a Bzz type of hire. I truly believe that he would destroy our program.

Has to be better than Lobo. I am indeed willing to take a flier.  11 years of experimentation is enough

RepeatDeac wrote: What exactly has Galloway done to earn an FBS OC coordinator position? I am glad we have him. Like his attitude and ability to recruit. I am not sure it is obvious he needs to be the OC.

All you to need to know about our coordinators is nobody wants them- our untried position coaches are more in demand.

Lobo has had a bad couple years, but there were people on this board who wanted to fire Lobo the week after we gained 550 yards against Miami and the defense lost the game.

Lobo hasn't impressed me recently, he hasn't had much to work with, and the execution has been horrible, not just on the offensive line.  Still, I think the failure has been complete, from players to position coaches to Lobo and to Grobe.  So not making excuses for him, just recognizing that there are many reason why the offense tanked so badly this year.

All that said, Lobo is a great person and whether he's married into Jim's family or not, he's not going to be treated like someone that Grobe's never met before - i.e., like  90%+ of the posters on board seem to think he should - he will be treated with due respect I'm sure, even if the timing isn't convenient for Wake fans.  That doesn't bother me in the least.

And I do think there are brighter days ahead for the offense based on the number and quality of o-line we've recruited, and the promise of DeAndre and Dez Wortham and I hope a kid from Lexington comes our way.  Terry and Ragland and James will be quality receivers along with Camp if they catch the ball.

Only recently has Lobo failed to impress you? Pure Peter Principle. Rose to a level of incompetence and not does just enough to not get himself fired, but certainly is not competent enough to thrive. We have seen enough that the excuses do not have the same effect anymore. Wait until the O-line is older, wait until the young studs grow up, next year next year next year. I just haven't seen anything from him. Wake has no offensive identity. We call ourselves "conservative" as a euphemism for not very good. I love the idea of having a powerful back like Deandre to get a consistent run game going, but I see no reason to be optimistic given our track record. Sure if you are looking for glimmers of hope there is always going to be something to latch onto. It is abundantly clear the Lobo is still here for personal reasons.

Someone tell me with a straight face that Lobo is the best offensive coordinator Wake Forest could get.