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Posted: 1/27/2013 12:34 PM

Re: Question/suggestion for you Vandy1Fan... 

I have really not joined this argument for the last month for a couple reasons, but your post brings to mind a question or two....wouldn't EVERY coach say that they strive to be a top program like Duke, and after 14 yrs, shouldn't we be seeing at least a smidgen of a hint that VU is headed in that direction? I think we will be ok in a year or two, and I'm not as gloomy and doomy as some, but we are going through a period not many programs, short of ncaa troubles or a series of coaching changes ever find themselves in. Here's to hoping we beat the Vawls this week and get back on track.


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Did you listen to CKS' call in show last week?  He discussed this very topic and said that he strives to be a top program like Duke.  Maybe the reason you have never heard Stallings say this is because you haven't listened.

My suggestion to you, as I'm assuming you live in Nashville, is to call his show this Monday and run down your list of questions.  I can guarantee you will get on the air.  I will be listening and can't wait to hear CKS respond.  Maybe at that point you will have some satisfaction on the direction of the program.

The show is this Monday from 7 - 8 pm on WLAC 1510 AM and the call in # is 1-855-2DORES1 (236-7371).  

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Posted: 1/27/2013 1:27 PM

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Name one program that doesn't go through a rebuilding process.  Name just one.  All college basketball programs do.  UCLA, UK, Duke, Indiana, Butler, UF, UNC, ALL programs do.  Fire Roy Williams!!  Yes, some of us really sound that silly.  We have consistently won, been in the top 25, made the NCAA tourney, even beat #1 UK for the SEC tourney championship last year, graduated players, sent players to the NBA, and continue to receive praise from the college basketball world.  And the reason CKS mentioned Duke was because a caller had asked about academic restrictions.
SumnerCountyDore wrote: I have really not joined this argument for the last month for a couple reasons, but your post brings to mind a question or two....wouldn't EVERY coach say that they strive to be a top program like Duke, and after 14 yrs, shouldn't we be seeing at least a smidgen of a hint that VU is headed in that direction? I think we will be ok in a year or two, and I'm not as gloomy and doomy as some, but we are going through a period not many programs, short of ncaa troubles or a series of coaching changes ever find themselves in. Here's to hoping we beat the Vawls this week and get back on track.


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Did you listen to CKS' call in show last week?  He discussed this very topic and said that he strives to be a top program like Duke.  Maybe the reason you have never heard Stallings say this is because you haven't listened.

My suggestion to you, as I'm assuming you live in Nashville, is to call his show this Monday and run down your list of questions.  I can guarantee you will get on the air.  I will be listening and can't wait to hear CKS respond.  Maybe at that point you will have some satisfaction on the direction of the program.

The show is this Monday from 7 - 8 pm on WLAC 1510 AM and the call in # is 1-855-2DORES1 (236-7371).  

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Posted: 1/27/2013 1:32 PM

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You rebuild with quality recruits, and bench strength from the previous year.  So far, none are in in sight.  The cupboard is bare because KS has, for whatever reason, failed miserably in recruiting SEC talent.  And he has put himself in such a terrible position with class imbalance that it will take several years to recover, and that's IF he decides to recruit again.

When did Duke score 33 points in a game?  What about the other "programs that had to rebuild".
Any 33 priont games there?  Any 55% Free throw shooting?

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Posted: 1/27/2013 1:41 PM

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Totally disagree.  Our issue this year is inexperience.  We ran an 8 (sometimes 9) man rotation last year, which included losing our top 6 guys.  If you weren't in that top 6, you weren't seeing many minutes.  We have some quality players that lack game experience.  Bright, Jeter, KJ, Parker all have huge upside.  If McClellan and the incoming Jones can make an immediate impact, we will get much better in a hurry.

UK has more than their fair share of quality recruits.  How is that working this year?
PeteFox wrote: You rebuild with quality recruits, and bench strength from the previous year.  So far, none are in in sight.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 4:13 PM

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You really don't think we have more problems than inexperience? Really? I think our problems are greater than that. I think our problem is more of a lack of talent. For instance...you used Duke as an example, but I will lower the bar a little and won't even put them in this equation because I know what the answer is, but how many of our current starters would start for any of the top 5 SEC teams? I count 1,(and that would'nt be at all those schools), with one other being the 6th man in a few places. Love our players, and will be at most games, but our overall talent level is lower than it's been in a long time.


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Totally disagree.  Our issue this year is inexperience.  We ran an 8 (sometimes 9) man rotation last year, which included losing our top 6 guys.  If you weren't in that top 6, you weren't seeing many minutes.  We have some quality players that lack game experience.  Bright, Jeter, KJ, Parker all have huge upside.  If McClellan and the incoming Jones can make an immediate impact, we will get much better in a hurry.

UK has more than their fair share of quality recruits.  How is that working this year?
PeteFox wrote: You rebuild with quality recruits, and bench strength from the previous year.  So far, none are in in sight.


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Posted: 1/27/2013 4:42 PM

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PeteFox wrote: 

When did Duke score 33 points in a game?  What about the other "programs that had to rebuild".
Any 33 priont games there?  Any 55% Free throw shooting?
Well let's see...

Alabama has made exactly 1 of the last 6 NCAA tournaments.
Arizona State has made 1 of the last 9.
Arkansas is 0 for the last 4.
Auburn is 0 for the las 9.
Boston College is 1 for the last 5 (with 2 losing records in that span)
Colorado is 2 for the last 15 (with 6 losing records including a 7-20 season).
Iowa is 0 for 6 with 3 losing records.
Iowa State is 1 for 7, and 2 for 11 since having a team that peaked at #6 in the polls and was a 2 seed in the NCAAs.
Though they will get off the schnide this year, Miami (FL) is 1 for the last 11, following a run of 4 tournaments in 5 years.
Ole Miss is 0 for 10 after a run of 5 tournaments in 6 years.
Mississippi State is 0 for the last 3 and in a downward spiral following several successful years.
Until last year NC State had followed 5 straight NCAA appearances with 5 straight seasons at home.
Northwestern is 0 for ... nah, too easy.
Oklahoma has missed 3 straight NCAAs with a losing record last year.
Since being ranked as high as #3 in the country in 2005, Oklahoma State has made just 2 of 7 NCAAs.
Oregon is 0 for 4.
Oregon State is 0 for the 21st century.
Providence has made 2 of 15 NCAAs since an elite 8 appearance...
St. John's has made 2 of 12 NCAAs since back to back top 10 seasons.
Texas Tech has made 1 of the last 7 NCAAs (and is in a nosedive) since a top 25 season.
In 2010 UCLA finished sub-.500 just 2 years off of a Final Four team, and have missed 2 of the last 3 NCAAs.
Wake Forest has made just 2 of 7 NCAAs since a 2005 season that saw them reach #1 in the nation.

These are all BCS-conference teams.  Some of them have never had great success.  All of them are trying to accomplish the same things we are.  Some of them have had multiple coach changes.  Some have let coaches stay and have a chance to build the program.  Many of the schools on this list have basketball histories comparable to (or better than) our 4 or 5 sweet 16s and one 50 year old elite 8.

Yes, almost all teams go in rebuilding mode.  You may say (or someone did) that we don't have to be Duke, but pretty much all programs other than a small handful (Duke, UNC, UK, Arizona, Kansas) go through down years and rebuilding cycles.  Often, these are long processes.  

If we hold to the status quo (make Stallings 'coach for life') I have confidence that we will be above .500 next year and an NCAA team in two years.  If we opted to shake things up and replace the coach ... I have no idea what to expect.  Maybe better.  Maybe the same.  Maybe worse.  Our next coach being a James Franklin-like grand slam hire is not likely (not to take anything away from DW, 'cause kudos for getting JF, but we got incredibly lucky that we found a coach that good, who was underappreciated by his former employer, and that we realized it before anyone else did).  

EVERYONE wants to be a perennial top 20 school and contend for championships regularly.  Almost NO ONE actually does this.  And firing coaches that have been generally successful is often a good way to label yourself as fickle, and a good way to turn your program into a graveyard.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 4:44 PM

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SumnerCountyDore wrote:
how many of our current starters would start for any of the top 5 SEC teams? I count 1,(and that would'nt be at all those schools), with one other being the 6th man in a few places. Love our players, and will be at most games, but our overall talent level is lower than it's been in a long time.

Ah, but now account for the inexperience part.  How many of the top 5 SEC teams do you think a senior KJ or Jeter would start for?  I think Jeter as a senior starts for pretty much anyone other than UK.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 5:10 PM

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Probably so, but that would be the only one. Hard to compete without two or three of those guys on your roster every year. Just curious....how many of last year's team would've started for UK, FL, or UT?

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SumnerCountyDore wrote:
how many of our current starters would start for any of the top 5 SEC teams? I count 1,(and that would'nt be at all those schools), with one other being the 6th man in a few places. Love our players, and will be at most games, but our overall talent level is lower than it's been in a long time.

Ah, but now account for the inexperience part.  How many of the top 5 SEC teams do you think a senior KJ or Jeter would start for?  I think Jeter as a senior starts for pretty much anyone other than UK.

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Posted: 1/27/2013 5:22 PM

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Great post and research. My only problem is that there are more "football" schools on there than traditional badketbsll schools like we, until recently, liked to consider we are. I honestly believe we should consistently be the #2 basketball school in this league. We should be consistently flirting with league championships and NCAA tourneys should pretty much be a foregone conclusion in what is not a very good basketball league. I know it's a lot easier said than done, but FL has seemed to do exactly that.

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PeteFox wrote: 

When did Duke score 33 points in a game?  What about the other "programs that had to rebuild".
Any 33 priont games there?  Any 55% Free throw shooting?
Well let's see...

Alabama has made exactly 1 of the last 6 NCAA tournaments.
Arizona State has made 1 of the last 9.
Arkansas is 0 for the last 4.
Auburn is 0 for the las 9.
Boston College is 1 for the last 5 (with 2 losing records in that span)
Colorado is 2 for the last 15 (with 6 losing records including a 7-20 season).
Iowa is 0 for 6 with 3 losing records.
Iowa State is 1 for 7, and 2 for 11 since having a team that peaked at #6 in the polls and was a 2 seed in the NCAAs.
Though they will get off the schnide this year, Miami (FL) is 1 for the last 11, following a run of 4 tournaments in 5 years.
Ole Miss is 0 for 10 after a run of 5 tournaments in 6 years.
Mississippi State is 0 for the last 3 and in a downward spiral following several successful years.
Until last year NC State had followed 5 straight NCAA appearances with 5 straight seasons at home.
Northwestern is 0 for ... nah, too easy.
Oklahoma has missed 3 straight NCAAs with a losing record last year.
Since being ranked as high as #3 in the country in 2005, Oklahoma State has made just 2 of 7 NCAAs.
Oregon is 0 for 4.
Oregon State is 0 for the 21st century.
Providence has made 2 of 15 NCAAs since an elite 8 appearance...
St. John's has made 2 of 12 NCAAs since back to back top 10 seasons.
Texas Tech has made 1 of the last 7 NCAAs (and is in a nosedive) since a top 25 season.
In 2010 UCLA finished sub-.500 just 2 years off of a Final Four team, and have missed 2 of the last 3 NCAAs.
Wake Forest has made just 2 of 7 NCAAs since a 2005 season that saw them reach #1 in the nation.

These are all BCS-conference teams.  Some of them have never had great success.  All of them are trying to accomplish the same things we are.  Some of them have had multiple coach changes.  Some have let coaches stay and have a chance to build the program.  Many of the schools on this list have basketball histories comparable to (or better than) our 4 or 5 sweet 16s and one 50 year old elite 8.

Yes, almost all teams go in rebuilding mode.  You may say (or someone did) that we don't have to be Duke, but pretty much all programs other than a small handful (Duke, UNC, UK, Arizona, Kansas) go through down years and rebuilding cycles.  Often, these are long processes.  

If we hold to the status quo (make Stallings 'coach for life') I have confidence that we will be above .500 next year and an NCAA team in two years.  If we opted to shake things up and replace the coach ... I have no idea what to expect.  Maybe better.  Maybe the same.  Maybe worse.  Our next coach being a James Franklin-like grand slam hire is not likely (not to take anything away from DW, 'cause kudos for getting JF, but we got incredibly lucky that we found a coach that good, who was underappreciated by his former employer, and that we realized it before anyone else did).  

EVERYONE wants to be a perennial top 20 school and contend for championships regularly.  Almost NO ONE actually does this.  And firing coaches that have been generally successful is often a good way to label yourself as fickle, and a good way to turn your program into a graveyard.

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Posted: 1/27/2013 5:27 PM

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UK is 15-6 and 4-2 in the league and played some really tight games vs some good competition. I believe we would swap with them, as any other SEC team not named Florida and Ole Miss would. I haven't checked and don't remember off the top of my head, but I would venture to say that us a better record with stiffer competition than we had last year with our most talented team ever.
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Totally disagree.  Our issue this year is inexperience.  We ran an 8 (sometimes 9) man rotation last year, which included losing our top 6 guys.  If you weren't in that top 6, you weren't seeing many minutes.  We have some quality players that lack game experience.  Bright, Jeter, KJ, Parker all have huge upside.  If McClellan and the incoming Jones can make an immediate impact, we will get much better in a hurry.

UK has more than their fair share of quality recruits.  How is that working this year?
PeteFox wrote: You rebuild with quality recruits, and bench strength from the previous year.  So far, none are in in sight.


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Posted: 1/27/2013 6:30 PM

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SumnerCountyDore wrote:  I honestly believe we should consistently be the #2 basketball school in this league. We should be consistently flirting with league championships and NCAA tourneys should pretty much be a foregone conclusion in what is not a very good basketball league. 
This surprised me.  In our conference we have UK (8 national titles).  Florida (2, and a final four or two besides).  Arkansas (a national title).  Mississippi State (a couple of final 4s).  LSU (several final 4s and a nice natural recruiting base).  Alabama has been ranked in more than half of the last 40 seasons - we have been ranked in 12 of the last 40, and that's including 5 of the last 6.  (have I mentioned how incredibly easy it is to come up with this stuff on basketball-reference.com?) UT has been as up and down as we have over the years, but their highs have generally been higher.  Georgia has Atlanta to draw on as a recruiting base (if they could keep those kids).  Our new entrant Missouri is not just experiencing recent success, but has been ranked in 25 of the last 40 years -- in the top 10 at some point in 16 of them.

I'm not saying that I think that all these teams should be better than us.  But I don't see a compelling reason to think that we should expect to be better than all of them on a regular basis.  We are in a nice city, but not one that is generally considered as a huge hotbed of recruits.  As a private school instead of the state university, we can't consider even our own backyard to be a given for recruiting territory (like, for example, Ohio State usually can).  Plus there's the academic thing.  I am NOT trying to make excuses.  We could be a powerhouse.  And, yes, if we hired a Coach K or a Roy Williams we would be one.  Needless to say, the difficulty of identifying that kind of coach to hire before they become a huge success is difficult.

While what you have is a lofty goal, and one I'd love to see us obtain, it's a goal that history says either means is 1) unrealistic or 2) as a school, our basketball team has been underachieving for basically all of the last 50 years, except for a 5 year stretch in the 60s.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 8:39 PM

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Well, UK will be on the NCAA and hasnt scored 33 pts twice and dont recall ever seeing them (or us until this era) in the bottom 10 in the Nation for 3 or more categories.  Let us not compare our current experience to any program that still beat us at home on their worst possible shooting game, any program that will finish above .500 in the SEC if not win the thing, while we are 2-4 with two 20+ point league losses..

Lets worry about our situation and the only way it can get better is with better players and then knowing to play your best in-game players.  I would rather see 5 guards / forwards than seeing guys play because they are taller if they dont show you effort.  I will say again we have 4 guys on the team that are in their 3rd years so effectively 4 Jr Players by recruiting date.....  that is trouble other than experience.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 7:23 AM

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This notion of being a basketball school is self proclaimed and a joke. Obviously we've had way more success in hoops, but a basketball school (even in its most down years) has more than three students in the student section for a league game. You may want to go to the commons and remind the kids we are a basketball school.
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Great post and research. My only problem is that there are more "football" schools on there than traditional badketbsll schools like we, until recently, liked to consider we are. I honestly believe we should consistently be the #2 basketball school in this league. We should be consistently flirting with league championships and NCAA tourneys should pretty much be a foregone conclusion in what is not a very good basketball league. I know it's a lot easier said than done, but FL has seemed to do exactly that.

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PeteFox wrote: 

When did Duke score 33 points in a game?  What about the other "programs that had to rebuild".
Any 33 priont games there?  Any 55% Free throw shooting?
Well let's see...

Alabama has made exactly 1 of the last 6 NCAA tournaments.
Arizona State has made 1 of the last 9.
Arkansas is 0 for the last 4.
Auburn is 0 for the las 9.
Boston College is 1 for the last 5 (with 2 losing records in that span)
Colorado is 2 for the last 15 (with 6 losing records including a 7-20 season).
Iowa is 0 for 6 with 3 losing records.
Iowa State is 1 for 7, and 2 for 11 since having a team that peaked at #6 in the polls and was a 2 seed in the NCAAs.
Though they will get off the schnide this year, Miami (FL) is 1 for the last 11, following a run of 4 tournaments in 5 years.
Ole Miss is 0 for 10 after a run of 5 tournaments in 6 years.
Mississippi State is 0 for the last 3 and in a downward spiral following several successful years.
Until last year NC State had followed 5 straight NCAA appearances with 5 straight seasons at home.
Northwestern is 0 for ... nah, too easy.
Oklahoma has missed 3 straight NCAAs with a losing record last year.
Since being ranked as high as #3 in the country in 2005, Oklahoma State has made just 2 of 7 NCAAs.
Oregon is 0 for 4.
Oregon State is 0 for the 21st century.
Providence has made 2 of 15 NCAAs since an elite 8 appearance...
St. John's has made 2 of 12 NCAAs since back to back top 10 seasons.
Texas Tech has made 1 of the last 7 NCAAs (and is in a nosedive) since a top 25 season.
In 2010 UCLA finished sub-.500 just 2 years off of a Final Four team, and have missed 2 of the last 3 NCAAs.
Wake Forest has made just 2 of 7 NCAAs since a 2005 season that saw them reach #1 in the nation.

These are all BCS-conference teams.  Some of them have never had great success.  All of them are trying to accomplish the same things we are.  Some of them have had multiple coach changes.  Some have let coaches stay and have a chance to build the program.  Many of the schools on this list have basketball histories comparable to (or better than) our 4 or 5 sweet 16s and one 50 year old elite 8.

Yes, almost all teams go in rebuilding mode.  You may say (or someone did) that we don't have to be Duke, but pretty much all programs other than a small handful (Duke, UNC, UK, Arizona, Kansas) go through down years and rebuilding cycles.  Often, these are long processes.  

If we hold to the status quo (make Stallings 'coach for life') I have confidence that we will be above .500 next year and an NCAA team in two years.  If we opted to shake things up and replace the coach ... I have no idea what to expect.  Maybe better.  Maybe the same.  Maybe worse.  Our next coach being a James Franklin-like grand slam hire is not likely (not to take anything away from DW, 'cause kudos for getting JF, but we got incredibly lucky that we found a coach that good, who was underappreciated by his former employer, and that we realized it before anyone else did).  

EVERYONE wants to be a perennial top 20 school and contend for championships regularly.  Almost NO ONE actually does this.  And firing coaches that have been generally successful is often a good way to label yourself as fickle, and a good way to turn your program into a graveyard.

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Posted: 1/28/2013 5:47 PM

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mathknapp wrote:
PeteFox wrote: 

When did Duke score 33 points in a game?  What about the other "programs that had to rebuild".
Any 33 priont games there?  Any 55% Free throw shooting?
Well let's see...

Alabama has made exactly 1 of the last 6 NCAA tournaments.
Arizona State has made 1 of the last 9.
Arkansas is 0 for the last 4.
Auburn is 0 for the las 9.
Boston College is 1 for the last 5 (with 2 losing records in that span)
Colorado is 2 for the last 15 (with 6 losing records including a 7-20 season).
Iowa is 0 for 6 with 3 losing records.
Iowa State is 1 for 7, and 2 for 11 since having a team that peaked at #6 in the polls and was a 2 seed in the NCAAs.
Though they will get off the schnide this year, Miami (FL) is 1 for the last 11, following a run of 4 tournaments in 5 years.
Ole Miss is 0 for 10 after a run of 5 tournaments in 6 years.
Mississippi State is 0 for the last 3 and in a downward spiral following several successful years.
Until last year NC State had followed 5 straight NCAA appearances with 5 straight seasons at home.
Northwestern is 0 for ... nah, too easy.
Oklahoma has missed 3 straight NCAAs with a losing record last year.
Since being ranked as high as #3 in the country in 2005, Oklahoma State has made just 2 of 7 NCAAs.
Oregon is 0 for 4.
Oregon State is 0 for the 21st century.
Providence has made 2 of 15 NCAAs since an elite 8 appearance...
St. John's has made 2 of 12 NCAAs since back to back top 10 seasons.
Texas Tech has made 1 of the last 7 NCAAs (and is in a nosedive) since a top 25 season.
In 2010 UCLA finished sub-.500 just 2 years off of a Final Four team, and have missed 2 of the last 3 NCAAs.
Wake Forest has made just 2 of 7 NCAAs since a 2005 season that saw them reach #1 in the nation.

These are all BCS-conference teams.  Some of them have never had great success.  All of them are trying to accomplish the same things we are.  Some of them have had multiple coach changes.  Some have let coaches stay and have a chance to build the program.  Many of the schools on this list have basketball histories comparable to (or better than) our 4 or 5 sweet 16s and one 50 year old elite 8.

Yes, almost all teams go in rebuilding mode.  You may say (or someone did) that we don't have to be Duke, but pretty much all programs other than a small handful (Duke, UNC, UK, Arizona, Kansas) go through down years and rebuilding cycles.  Often, these are long processes.  

If we hold to the status quo (make Stallings 'coach for life') I have confidence that we will be above .500 next year and an NCAA team in two years.  If we opted to shake things up and replace the coach ... I have no idea what to expect.  Maybe better.  Maybe the same.  Maybe worse.  Our next coach being a James Franklin-like grand slam hire is not likely (not to take anything away from DW, 'cause kudos for getting JF, but we got incredibly lucky that we found a coach that good, who was underappreciated by his former employer, and that we realized it before anyone else did).  

EVERYONE wants to be a perennial top 20 school and contend for championships regularly.  Almost NO ONE actually does this.  And firing coaches that have been generally successful is often a good way to label yourself as fickle, and a good way to turn your program into a graveyard.
+1 Great Post
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Posted: 1/29/2013 5:27 PM

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SumnerCountyDore wrote: I think we will be ok in a year or two, and I'm not as gloomy and doomy as some, but we are going through a period not many programs, short of ncaa troubles or a series of coaching changes ever find themselves in. Here's to hoping we beat the Vawls this week and get back on track.
Few programs find themselves with an 8-10 record in late January?  Really?  Our program is not in that bad of a state.  Yes, I was hoping for better this year, but, really, one game below .500 (and we still have a chance to get to .500 or a little better) is a situation that quite a few (I would say most) programs find themselves in, even without NCAA trouble and a series of coaching changes.
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