I haven't looked up the rule, and I'm certainly no Stallings apologist.  However, given that a timeout can always be called after a made basket, the rule could only be that a timeout can be called until the ball is inbounded.  I really think there was confusion on the part of the official because when the ball is inbounded after a dead ball, once the inbounder has the ball, it is live (and thus a timeout can't be called).  That said, after a made basket, the ball is never really "dead", so a timeout shoud be able to be called even when the inbounder has the ball.  The ref doesn't typically hand the ball to the inbounder after a made basket, so I think the ref made a mistake in this particular situation due to a somewhat atypical situation.

I further think that Stallings knew he had a timeout but wanted to confirm given that the most likely way to lose in regulation was to get a "T".  He thought he had plenty of time to do so, and in my opinion, called the timeout in plenty of time (if my above assumptions are true).

Goheenaholic wrote: I haven't looked up the rule, and I'm certainly no Stallings apologist.  However, given that a timeout can always be called after a made basket, the rule could only be that a timeout can be called until the ball is inbounded.  I really think there was confusion on the part of the official because when the ball is inbounded after a dead ball, once the inbounder has the ball, it is live (and thus a timeout can't be called).  That said, after a made basket, the ball is never really "dead", so a timeout shoud be able to be called even when the inbounder has the ball.  The ref doesn't typically hand the ball to the inbounder after a made basket, so I think the ref made a mistake in this particular situation due to a somewhat atypical situation.

I further think that Stallings knew he had a timeout but wanted to confirm given that the most likely way to lose in regulation was to get a "T".  He thought he had plenty of time to do so, and in my opinion, called the timeout in plenty of time (if my above assumptions are true).

Where did you find that, because I can never recall seeing a TO granted to the now defensive team once the ball is handed to the inbounder on any level from h.s. to the NBA.


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bhoyal wrote:

Goheenaholic wrote: I haven't looked up the rule, and I'm certainly no Stallings apologist.  However, given that a timeout can always be called after a made basket, the rule could only be that a timeout can be called until the ball is inbounded.  I really think there was confusion on the part of the official because when the ball is inbounded after a dead ball, once the inbounder has the ball, it is live (and thus a timeout can't be called).  That said, after a made basket, the ball is never really "dead", so a timeout shoud be able to be called even when the inbounder has the ball.  The ref doesn't typically hand the ball to the inbounder after a made basket, so I think the ref made a mistake in this particular situation due to a somewhat atypical situation.

I further think that Stallings knew he had a timeout but wanted to confirm given that the most likely way to lose in regulation was to get a "T".  He thought he had plenty of time to do so, and in my opinion, called the timeout in plenty of time (if my above assumptions are true).

Where did you find that, because I can never recall seeing a TO granted to the now defensive team once the ball is handed to the inbounder on any level from h.s. to the NBA.


NOTE: This post does not address or "take sides" in the topic of retaining or not retaining the current coaching staff of any sport at Vanderbilt University or at any other school or entity, collegiate or professional.

Vanderbilt had just made a basket; therefore, the ball was dead. I'd estimate that wherther a guy is running the baseline or not, the ball is not deemed to be "live" again until it is thrown inbounds.

I see it as another crock of manure that helped us to lose a game. I bet if UK were in Rupp and called one during the same scenario, they would have gotten it, wouldn't they?

I'd bet my buttcheek with the most pimples on it that they would have.

I think my point is that the ball is typically not handed to the inbounder after a made basket.

Go back and look at the replay again.  Stallings doesn't ask for the timeout until the ball has already been thrown in.  just because a coach asks for a timeout doesn't mean the official has to grant the timeout.  The official might not have heard him or seen the signal in time.

Goheenaholic wrote:   He thought he had plenty of time to do so, and in my opinion, called the timeout in plenty of time (if my above assumptions are true).