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Last night, Vandy set the all time Memorial record for 3's

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Posted: 1/16/2013 7:40 AM

Last night, Vandy set the all time Memorial record for 3's 


made in a game with 17. Who would have ever though this would be the team to do that?

That right there shows they have the ability to shoot.

Of course with the way this messed up board has gone lately, it was all on the players for making 17 three pointers. They get 100% credit for making those 17 threes. However, its all CKS's fault those players went 10/23 from the FT line. CKS really screwed up when when the team missed 5 in a row in the last 2 minutes. He cannot allow that to happen!!

I believe it was MattEarls who posted about the future and I agree with him. This team has heart and desire and they are just having trouble putting it together. They do appear to be getting better though. You can see the tools, it just comes in spurts, our guys have to get better at sustaining it. I guess with the SECT anything is possible. Im hoping we can gain consitency and get it together by tourney time. With the defense usually always being there if we can gain offensive momentum and consistnecy, who knows what can happen.

Of course its only my opinion, but I think we have a very small handful of people that are ruining this board with their repeated rants about the same thing over and over again. You will say "you" dont but you cannot convince me that some of "you" are not happy when we lose. I think you enjoy it because you can nitpick and further your agenda against the coach. When Vanderbilt does good, there is never a good thing said unless it is clearly sarcastic or to belittle.

I agree CKS should have known how many timeouts he had if he ddint know (it appeared he didnt) but that had ZERO to do with us losing that game. IMO he asked for the TO in time anyways, I'd like to hear why it was not granted. For all we know, OM makes a 3 pointer anywyas, who knows? I do know if we just hit a pathetic 60% of our FT's all that end of game crap is moot. We shot 10/23 and had we made front ends of 1&1's we probaly could have shot closer to around 27 or 28 FT's. make 50% of those and we do not even go to OT.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 8:35 AM

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It is interesting that it is claimed that "a small number" are unhappy - when the student section was almost empty and there were only 8K people there a good number being for Ole Miss - maybe it is the silent majority that are voting with their feet.  Forget this board - if apathy of the students and fans takes over that will speak volumes for where the program is compared to what is posted on Vandymania.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 8:39 AM

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Charlestonalum wrote: It is interesting that it is claimed that "a small number" are unhappy - when the student section was almost empty and there were only 8K people there a good number being for Ole Miss - maybe it is the silent majority that are voting with their feet.  Forget this board - if apathy of the students and fans takes over that will speak volumes for where the program is compared to what is posted on Vandymania.

The number is indeed NOT small.  I'm not taking sides in the "coaching staff" debate... however I did see a number of tweets with the hashtag #fire(name of coach here) on twitter this season.



NOTE: This post does not address or "take sides" in the topic of retaining or not retaining the current coaching staff of any sport at Vanderbilt University or at any other school or entity, collegiate or professional.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 8:43 AM

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Good things seem to happen when Odom, DJP, and Jeter are on the floor together. They were on the floor together for the run against Kentucky. DJP has really impressed at times since he came back, he just needs to be more consistent with it. Jeter played well last night, I wonder if he got a little tired last night playing so many minutes, 32, which was a career high, he will usually make a wide-open 3 pointer and he missed a couple of those late in the game. CKS has done an excellent job bringing Jeter along this year, not only is he a freshman but he is making a big adjustment from being a HS star to a freshman role player. Stallings really deserves credit for how Jeter has gotten better as the year has went on, he stuck with him and gave him 10-15 minutes every night early in the year even when he was obviously learning on the fly and I think the 4 minute scolding at MTSU really sent Jeter a message because since then, he has really contributed a lot, he needs to get his FT stroke back though because if he continues to get 25-30 minutes he will go to the line a lot and he also has to get better on defense. Bright looked great spotting up from 3 but he also had a team-high 4 turnovers and made some careless passes last night. Will be interesting to see if Stallings runs the same lineup Saturday or maybe that was a 1 night thing to try and match up with the Rebels. At the very least I think DJP may have earned another start over Fuller, Jeter/Bright is a coin flip, they both contributed very similar games. 13 points 4 rebounds and 12 points 4 rebounds. Jeter turned it over once, Bright 4 times.

I agree with you on the redundancy on the forum, it's one thing to criticize the coach but I dont think the same poster should be allowed to make multiple threads all evening bashing the coach and subtly bashing some players. The armchair coaches with hindsight to their benefit is really annoying. But this is the most popular Vandy forum so I'll deal with it, as soon as it was evident that they were gonna lose I had to log off as the Stallings haters really started coming out of the woodwork then to armchair coach and take their shots.

This young team is getting better and I enjoy watching them.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 8:54 AM

I said small number "on this board" 


I'm not saying only a small number are not happy. Hell, I am not happy.

I am talking about how the board has turned in to the same damn thread started over and over and over again. CKS sucks. CKS cant calle timeouts at the right time. CKS needs to teach better FT shooting. CKS has bad language. CKS yells too much. CKS can't recruit. CKS wears the wrong cologne. CKS wore an ugly jacket. CKS didn't whistle loud enough. CKS stomps his feet to hard. CKS doesnt know how to coach. CKS hurt someone's feelings. CKS sighed too loudly, etc etc etc etc etc blah blah blah......

Let's also not forget the fact there was an impending ice storm (that never developed in Nashville) that kept may people away. The fact we are 6-9 also will keep people away.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 9:30 AM

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A couple of weeks ago I suggested a numbering system for these type posts: CKS sucks. CKS cant calle timeouts at the right time. CKS needs to teach better FT shooting. CKS has bad language. CKS yells too much. CKS can't recruit. CKS wears the wrong cologne. CKS wore an ugly jacket. CKS didn't whistle loud enough. CKS stomps his feet to hard. CKS doesnt know how to coach. CKS hurt someone's feelings.   

Those posters complained that I was being mean to them.  I still think it would save time and bandwidth.

an impending ice storm (that never developed in Nashville) that kept may people away  

Yep, a third of my Algebra 2 class was absent yesterday, were they voting with their feet?

I see so many good things this groups does and I also see a lot of things they are trying to do but can't/don't.  
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Posted: 1/16/2013 1:58 PM

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I'm glad that we hit a lot of 3's, but attempting 40 three-point shots is not a sustainable way to win games.  We have to find a way to get high-percentage shots.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:07 PM

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breeks84 wrote: I'm glad that we hit a lot of 3's, but attempting 40 three-point shots is not a sustainable way to win games. We have to find a way to get high-percentage shots.
You want higher percentages, eh? Well, through last night's game, this team is shooting .405 on its 2-pointers, for 0.81 pts/shot, as compared to .345 on its treys, for 1.04 pts/shot.

Counting only the 8 games in Memorial, the team is shooting .454 on 2-pointers, for .91 pts/shot, and .397 on its treys, for 1.19 pts/shot.

Now we're all aware that you can't just just compare these numbers directly to each other, 'cause other factors weigh in, like more rebounds, etc.

But the point is that it's by no means a slam dunk that shooting more 2-pointers is the way for this team to go, especially when we're playing at home. Sure, it would be absolutely great to get lots of layups, but that's easy to say, difficult to execute. It may be that, this season, playing at home, jacking up a ton of treys may be this team's best shot, percentage-wise.
They laughed when I said I was going to be a comedian. They're not laughing now. -Bob Monkhouse (1928-2003)
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:24 PM

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Vandyman74 wrote: made in a game with 17. Who would have ever though this would be the team to do that?

That right there shows they have the ability to shoot.

Of course with the way this messed up board has gone lately, it was all on the players for making 17 three pointers. They get 100% credit for making those 17 threes. However, its all CKS's fault those players went 10/23 from the FT line. CKS really screwed up when when the team missed 5 in a row in the last 2 minutes. He cannot allow that to happen!!

I believe it was MattEarls who posted about the future and I agree with him. This team has heart and desire and they are just having trouble putting it together. They do appear to be getting better though. You can see the tools, it just comes in spurts, our guys have to get better at sustaining it. I guess with the SECT anything is possible. Im hoping we can gain consitency and get it together by tourney time. With the defense usually always being there if we can gain offensive momentum and consistnecy, who knows what can happen.

Of course its only my opinion, but I think we have a very small handful of people that are ruining this board with their repeated rants about the same thing over and over again. You will say "you" dont but you cannot convince me that some of "you" are not happy when we lose. I think you enjoy it because you can nitpick and further your agenda against the coach. When Vanderbilt does good, there is never a good thing said unless it is clearly sarcastic or to belittle.

I agree CKS should have known how many timeouts he had if he ddint know (it appeared he didnt) but that had ZERO to do with us losing that game. IMO he asked for the TO in time anyways, I'd like to hear why it was not granted. For all we know, OM makes a 3 pointer anywyas, who knows? I do know if we just hit a pathetic 60% of our FT's all that end of game crap is moot. We shot 10/23 and had we made front ends of 1&1's we probaly could have shot closer to around 27 or 28 FT's. make 50% of those and we do not even go to OT.

There may be some who wish Stallings to lose to get rid of him but I will never be one of those.  I am 100% for Vandy and their great kids who bust their tails for this university in the class room and on the court/field/diamond whatever.  You are not a true Vandy fan if you pull for a loss. I was very complimentary of them when they almost beat a worse than average KY team and would have for last night’s heart breaker if I had been able to see the game.  It apparently was Memorial magic at its best like KY.  BUT like KY, Ole Miss despite their record is not great.  After all they lost to MTSU worse than we did though quite early in the year.  The point is I don’t like seeing the players lose because of coaching problems and I won’t take the time to enumerate them.  That has been done ad nauseum. And there are more than a few fans who agree with this accessment.  We have a head coaching problem and despite you sticking your head in the sand that will not go away until the University recognizes it and that this coach will not, despite his success, take us to greatness.  You have to admit that if you are a rational person. Yes Coach Stalling is good and perhaps the best we have had though that is certainly debatable. BUT he is not a great coach on the floor and has fallen in his abilities over the last few years.  He can recruit but he can’t motivate as evidenced by his record of getting us to the Sweet 16 much less then elite 8 which is where great teams strive for and where we should expect every few years.  We can do that and  should have last year with the second best talent in the country according to the NBA relative to a GREAT school like North Carolina. If they can do it along with Duke with their great academic reputation we should be able to also. Nough said!

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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:28 PM

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govu69 wrote:

There may be some who wish Stallings to lose to get rid of him but I will never be one of those.  I am 100% for Vandy and their great kids who bust their tails for this university in the class room and on the court/field/diamond whatever.  You are not a true Vandy fan if you pull for a loss. I was very complimentary of them when they almost beat a worse than average KY team and would have for last night’s heart breaker if I had been able to see the game.  It apparently was Memorial magic at its best like KY.  BUT like KY, Ole Miss despite their record is not great.  After all they lost to MTSU worse than we did though quite early in the year.  The point is I don’t like seeing the players lose because of coaching problems and I won’t take the time to enumerate them.  That has been done ad nauseum. And there are more than a few fans who agree with this accessment.  We have a head coaching problem and despite you sticking your head in the sand that will not go away until the University recognizes it and that this coach will not, despite his success, take us to greatness.  You have to admit that if you are a rational person. Yes Coach Stalling is good and perhaps the best we have had though that is certainly debatable. BUT he is not a great coach on the floor and has fallen in his abilities over the last few years.  He can recruit but he can’t motivate as evidenced by his record of getting us to the Sweet 16 much less then elite 8 which is where great teams strive for and where we should expect every few years.  We can do that and  should have last year with the second best talent in the country according to the NBA relative to a GREAT school like North Carolina. If they can do it along with Duke with their great academic reputation we should be able to also. Nough said!

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with your post, but you do make lots of valid points.


NOTE: This post does not address or "take sides" in the topic of retaining or not retaining the current coaching staff of any sport at Vanderbilt University or at any other school or entity, collegiate or professional.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 5:35 PM

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govu69 wrote: ...like KY, Ole Miss despite their record is not great. After all they lost to MTSU worse than we did though quite early in the year...
Did you see the game? 'Cause Ole Miss was a darned good team. Excellent inside play, good ball handlers, good perimeter shooters (though their % on threes was not great), & good penetrators.

Ole Miss will be going to the Dance in March. Book it. Now that doesn't make them "great" in your book, I realize. But they're not a bad team in any way shape or form, except for Henderson's "emotional issues" (to put it as nicely as possible).

They lost by 3 to MTSU, not "worse than we did", but like it or not MTSU are not a bad team at all. 

Ole Miss' worst loss was actually to Indiana State in OT on a neutral court. ISU is above .500, but not as far above as MTSU is.

But that's it: they've lost only those two games. They're 3-0 in the SEC, & before us they downed #10 Missouri, who many thought would only be challenged by UF in the SEC.

Taking Ole Miss to OT was nothing to be ashamed of, even at our place. It was no moral victory, but it was arguably our team's best game of the season. We lost to a clearly better team.
They laughed when I said I was going to be a comedian. They're not laughing now. -Bob Monkhouse (1928-2003)
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Posted: 1/18/2013 1:09 PM

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Yep, and if we hit free throws, we beat that "better team". Nuff said!
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