vandybrad wrote: For those that think CKS is all that and a bag of chips, be it right or wrong, college basketball success is judged by what happens in March Madness. Look where we are there. 25 win seasons and one and done in the tourney is not impressive. It is NOT about just getting to the tourney.

I realize that I am combining posts from different people here, but it is somewhat hypocritical to dismiss our SECT title last year as "not a real title" and then say that success is judged by what happens in a tournament in March.

For my part, the tourney is the icing on the cake.  It's was leaves the final taste in your mouth about a season (good or bad).  But the measure of how good the team was is based on what happened over the grind.

I mean, does anyone really believe (in retrospect) that Kemba Walker's UConn team was the best team in the nation that year?  If you do, you shouldn't.  Sometimes the best team and the champ coincide (like, sadly, last year), but this is not always the case.  I hesitate to even say it is usually the case.

mathknapp wrote:

vandybrad wrote: For those that think CKS is all that and a bag of chips, be it right or wrong, college basketball success is judged by what happens in March Madness. Look where we are there. 25 win seasons and one and done in the tourney is not impressive. It is NOT about just getting to the tourney.

I realize that I am combining posts from different people here, but it is somewhat hypocritical to dismiss our SECT title last year as "not a real title" and then say that success is judged by what happens in a tournament in March.

For my part, the tourney is the icing on the cake.  It's was leaves the final taste in your mouth about a season (good or bad).  But the measure of how good the team was is based on what happened over the grind.

I mean, does anyone really believe (in retrospect) that Kemba Walker's UConn team was the best team in the nation that year?  If you do, you shouldn't.  Sometimes the best team and the champ coincide (like, sadly, last year), but this is not always the case.  I hesitate to even say it is usually the case.

Sorry buddy but you are so wrong here. The NCAA tournament is THE bottom line, the most significant determinant in whether or not a season was a "success." I don't know who you are, mathknapp, nor do i really care, but I really would not be surprised if your last name was "Stallings."

It doesn't matter whether or not UConn was the best team that year, they won the National Championship and will be remembered as the best team that year. BCS National Championship works the same way. Obviously all games are not equal. There is enormous value in a team being "clutch," a quality our teams have lacked over the years. Losing to a #4 seed or #5 seed not once, not twice, but three times is very telling, not to mention disappointing.

Absolutely the tourney is the bottom line. Ask UK how important them losing the SEC tourney to us meant to them? It's all about what you do in the dance and that is the bottom line.