dore73 wrote: However, the program is lower than when he became head coach. 

Please separate the difference between this year and the program.  We have guys on this team that Vandy wasn't able to recruit 14 years ago.  For all our issues, there is talent.  There is a solid transfer waiting.  We have a top 100 post recruit coming next year.  

This team is in bad shape.  The program is fine.

I respectfully disagree. As you stated, the team is in bad shape. However, the program is also in bad shape if you look at the fact that our talent level is bad as it has ever been after 14 years of the same coach. This program should never have such embarrassing losses as we have experienced this year. Look at what Marist has done since they beat us. 3 baskets in the first half against Arkansas and our lowly total point output  is our worst showing since the three point era began.This is not a one year aberration. It is has been several years of poor evaluation of talent and recruiting. Many supporters of this program saw this day coming and we talked about the upcoming loss of talent while others were caught up in the Jenkins, Taylor, and Ezeli era and harshly criticized us for not enjoying the JJ, JT, and FE moment.