Whether you like it or not, I believe Williams can & will wait another year. Personally, I'm ok with that, but I understand the frustration. It's just that some of us have lived with similar frustration before, & so far, only Fogler (for one transfer-lucky season) & Stallings (for multiple seasons) have proven themselves capable of lifting this program out of that funk.

For what it's worth, I do hope that Williams forces Stallings to make major HELPFUL changes in his assistant coaching staff in order to get that additional year to show major strides forward.

Also, you overestimate the "love" that anyone on this board feels for Stallings. His support, among those of us who still support him, has never run particularly deep in any emotional sense. Even in his best years, we've seen the same flaws that have been obsessed on here (& were also obsessed on in previous years). But we've also seen him address those flaws in past years, when it was demanded of him. It needs to be demanded of him once more, unfortunately.

Fundamentally, no one supports keeping Stallings out of blind emotional loyalty. Nobody. Many of us are looking at things in a cold, hard rational way, & concluding that he remains our best previously-proven alternative right now.

So please don't try to denigrate our decision-making process as some kind of knee-jerk emotional tie; we have at least as much reason to throw the accusation of knee-jerk emotions right back.

vebiltdervan wrote:

1) It's just that some of us have lived with similar frustration before, & so far, only Fogler (for one transfer-lucky season) & Stallings (for multiple seasons) have proven themselves capable of lifting this program out of that funk.

2) For what it's worth, I do hope that Williams forces Stallings to make major HELPFUL changes in his assistant coaching staff in order to get that additional year to show major strides forward.

3)  Also, you overestimate the "love" that anyone on this board feels for Stallings. His support, among those of us who still support him, has never run particularly deep in any emotional sense. Even in his best years, we've seen the same flaws that have been obsessed on here (& were also obsessed on in previous years). But we've also seen him address those flaws in past years, when it was demanded of him. It needs to be demanded of him once more, unfortunately.

1.  Agreed on Fogler.  He feel ***-backward into some good transfer talent and never recruited another player for VU worth a flip.  He had two nobodies recruited to replace Anglin, Elder, etc and thank God they followed him to the 'Cocks. 

2.  Agreed.  Stallings needs an all-star recruiter to help him. 

3.  No love but immense appreciation and deep respect.

doreknox wrote:

vebiltdervan wrote:

1) It's just that some of us have lived with similar frustration before, & so far, only Fogler (for one transfer-lucky season) & Stallings (for multiple seasons) have proven themselves capable of lifting this program out of that funk.

2) For what it's worth, I do hope that Williams forces Stallings to make major HELPFUL changes in his assistant coaching staff in order to get that additional year to show major strides forward.

3)  Also, you overestimate the "love" that anyone on this board feels for Stallings. His support, among those of us who still support him, has never run particularly deep in any emotional sense. Even in his best years, we've seen the same flaws that have been obsessed on here (& were also obsessed on in previous years). But we've also seen him address those flaws in past years, when it was demanded of him. It needs to be demanded of him once more, unfortunately.

1.  Agreed on Fogler.  He feel ***-backward into some good transfer talent and never recruited another player for VU worth a flip.  He had two nobodies recruited to replace Anglin, Elder, etc and thank God they followed him to the 'Cocks. 

2.  Agreed.  Stallings needs an all-star recruiter to help him. 

3.  No love but immense appreciation and deep respect.

Although I am no Stallings supporter now I would agree on all counts though I feel he will be given a short leash by Dr Williams if not replaced at the end of the year unless he can recruit a quality big man.