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The Vanderbilt Mystery
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Posted: 2/21/2013 7:17 AM
The Vanderbilt Mystery
The conclusion that I have come to that makes the most sense to me is this. Someone at Butchug U had to make some type of deal /blackmailed someone very high up the VU ladder back in the day to allow them to become the “Tennessee” that we all have come accustomed to. They where the 1 team that had the most to gain from a Vanderbilt downfall; it has proven so through the years. There is no way on God’s green earth that they could have achieved what they did had VU continued on the path that it was on. This is the only way I could justify the way their program has deteriorated with the streak of “bad juju” that has befallen them and our rise from the ashes at nearly the exact same time. As my mama say’s “God don’t like ugly”. I think there is something to that in this case. This would make a great investigative documentary as it one of the greatest mysteries in NCAA football history I believe. What say you? |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 7:35 AM
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A little early to be drinking, ain't it? ;-)
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Posted: 2/21/2013 7:39 AM
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Yeap, thats why im not. There is something to this though.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 8:43 AM
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I do think, at some point, Vanderbilt decided it wanted to be a great academic university and that athletics was a detriment to that. At the same time, Tennessee was seeing great value in developing a solid football program. The other sports at UT seemed to benefit by the strength of its football program.
Now, there are seven teams in the SEC East and each seems to see the value in creating (or maintaining) a strong football program. The same could be said for the seven teams in the SEC West. Not all will be able to do that.
While everyday is a challenge, I believe Vanderbilt has the pieces in place and a uniqueness about it that will help it be one of those schools that does succeed going forward.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:10 AM
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 Good point. |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:32 AM
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DevelLionDore, there is no mystery...the timing of our rise and their fall was Providential...God ordained...
"The lamp of the wicked will be put out." Good guys don't always finish last...we just had a bad 60 year run...
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Go Ahead, Schedule Us for Homecoming. We Dare You.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:36 AM
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Im with you on that. The mystery is why we even got to this point. No one will ever truely know i guess but im all for a good conspiracy lol |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 10:32 AM
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At some point (not sure of exactly when) Vanderbilt decided not to commit to football at the level Tennessee and practically every other SEC school was committed. Our facilities are still not up to par with other SEC schools. Because the commitment wasn't there, we fell way behind. The good news is, David Williams is committed to closing that gap. Facilities are being upgraded, the commitment to football is clear and recruits are taking notice. As good as the last two recruiting classes were, I think this years class will be better, and I expect Vandy to sign their first 5 star recruit in this class. The gap between Vandy and the rest of the SEC has closed and it will continue to close as long as the commitment stays. Vanderbilt has a very good product to sell to student athletes, especially once our facilities are up to par with the rest of the conference. |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 11:44 AM
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Posted: 2/21/2013 11:56 AM
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SonofGryllus wrote:Gen Robert Neyland Mystery solved. |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:18 PM
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LOL he didnt take down The VU machine.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:42 PM
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DevellionDore wrote: LOL he didnt take down The VU machine. He didn't? His 16-3-2 record against Vanderbilt suggests otherwise. |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:56 PM
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Thats just when we stopped trying 
Last edited 2/21/2013 12:56 PM by DevellionDore
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:59 PM
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Gotta agree with SOG and Shelbyville on this one. I just read the recent Fred Russell bio that goes into this some. Neyland was hired with the explicit instruction to beat Vandy and almost without exception he did just that.
Certain bits of unlucky happenstance lent a hand to the conspiracy as well such as death penalty SMU beating Vandy with Dallas native, and brand new Vandy Chancellor Joe Wyatt, in attendance. Wyatt wrote off football after that and AD Hoolihan couldn't have done more things wrong for Vandy athletics in his tenure.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 1:07 PM
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DevellionDore wrote: Thats just when we stopped trying And why did they stop trying again? |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 1:08 PM
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The second part is what did us in . Not Neyland himself imo. If that is the case, they better hope Neyland #2 comes walking through that door soon before they turn into Colorado Jr. Lol Long story short, We try we WIN we dont try we Lose simple as that.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 1:09 PM
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Thats the million dollar question slow face.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 1:23 PM
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VandyFitz wrote: Gotta agree with SOG and Shelbyville on this one. I just read the recent Fred Russell bio that goes into this some. Neyland was hired with the explicit instruction to beat Vandy and almost without exception he did just that.
Certain bits of unlucky happenstance lent a hand to the conspiracy as well such as death penalty SMU beating Vandy with Dallas native, and brand new Vandy Chancellor Joe Wyatt, in attendance. Wyatt wrote off football after that and AD Hoolihan couldn't have done more things wrong for Vandy athletics in his tenure. Although I am a little biased, I have always felt like General Neyland is almost like a forgotten treasure in the CFB community. His name belongs in the same conversation with Rockne, Bear, Wilkinson, Bowden, Parseghian, and a very few others. His dominance was almost unparalleled, and he also left for multiple years in the middle of his tenure for military service. And you are absolutely correct Fitz, one of Neyland's first priorities when he was hired was to get UT to Vanderbilt's level. |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 1:26 PM
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DevellionDore wrote: Thats the million dollar question slow face. I'm sure it's a huge conspiracy like you suggest, just like the Holocaust, 9/11, the JFK assassination, Area 51, etc, etc, etc. |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 1:42 PM
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Sometimes one person can cahnge the course of history. IMHO Neyland did this for UTK. In regard to VU football, that person's name was Branscomb.
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