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Posted: 8/15/2014 9:48 AM

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The police officer who shot and killed an unarmed black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri over the weekend was on his way to a robbery call when he ran into Michael Brown.

At a press conference on Friday, Ferguson police released the name of the officer who shot Brown and provided more details about the events that led to his death.

The police report from Saturday's armed robbery incident that led to Brown's shooting names Brown as a suspect in the robbery.

Here's the police report:

Police also provided stills from the convenience store surveillance camera:

The police report for the robbery also names Dorian Johnson as being with Brown in the Quick Trip convenience store they allegedly stole cigars from. Johnson was a witness to Brown's shooting and said that Brown had his hands up when he was shot.

There was reportedly an altercation between Brown and a person who appears to be a store clerk before police arrived on scene, according to the report.

Police provided some details about Brown's shooting in a news conference Friday morning, but the report does not address the shooting.

Darren Wilson, the officer who shot Brown, was on his way to the robbery call when he encountered Brown at about 12:01 p.m., Ferguson police chief Thomas Jackson said Friday. Brown had been shot by the time a second officer arrived on scene at 12:04 p.m.

Wilson got a description of the alleged Quick Trip robber as he was on his way to the call, Jackson said. As he arrived on scene, he saw Brown walking toward the Quick Trip.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-brown-suspect-in-robbery-2014-8#ixzz3ATLKjB56
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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:17 AM

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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:19 AM

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Like in the Trayvon case I think we've all be duped by the race hustler administration again







Michael Brown’s rap sheet on casenet. Note that he also has a juvenile criminal record that is sealed.


Description: Burglary - 1st Degree { Felony B RSMo: 569.160 }

Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 1401000

OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD

Description: Armed Criminal Action { Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 }

Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 3101000

OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD

Description: Assault 1st Degree - Serious Physical Injury { Felony A RSMo: 565.050 }

Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 1301100

OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD

Description: Armed Criminal Action {

Felony Unclassified RSMo: 571.015 }

Date: 11/02/2013 Code: 3101000

OCN: AJ006207 Arresting Agency: ST ANN PD

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-brown-suspect-in-robbery-2014-8#ixzz3ATSixzYj
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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:24 AM

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Looks like an upstanding, well brought up, mild mannered kid to me that would never, ever cause any problems.

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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:25 AM

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Wow let the back pedaling begin. If he attacked the cop at 6'4 300lbs, you could argue the cop felt his life was in danger. Was the cop aware of the rap sheet at the time he responded to the call? I wonder if that is normal procedure?
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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:35 AM

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illinoisboy wrote: Wow let the back pedaling begin. If he attacked the cop at 6'4 300lbs, you could argue the cop felt his life was in danger. Was the cop aware of the rap sheet at the time he responded to the call? I wonder if that is normal procedure?
yep this story will fade very quickly...I wonder how all those people that believed the race hustlers feel right now?
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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:38 AM

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I guess obama isn't going to say if he had a son....

Wait, has he heard this on the news yet?  Is there TV on his golf cart or the bars where he is dancing the night away?

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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:38 AM

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None of this defends a cop shooting an unarmed man multiple times while running from him.

ohlord

It's even further poor handling of this investigation. That police chief should not be speaking in public. He's awful.
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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:41 AM

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Yep, media coverage will drop 90% now.
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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:42 AM

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Really? Completely disagree. Context is everything IMO.

And the only eye witness is a felon. Not so credible anymore.

Such a nice boy.

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None of this defends a cop shooting an unarmed man multiple times while running from him.

ohlord

It's even further poor handling of this investigation. That police chief should not be speaking in public. He's awful.

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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:44 AM

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Well, you can't say that because you've never been in a situation like that. You weren't there and you don't know everything that went on. You also don't know how aggressive this individual was being, what altercations took place.

Let's give you a gun, put you in a pressure cooker, adrenline flowing and have a guy like Mr. Brown trying to take your gun. See if you pee on yourself or if you shoot.
TallCool wrote: None of this defends a cop shooting an unarmed man multiple times while running from him.

ohlord

It's even further poor handling of this investigation. That police chief should not be speaking in public. He's awful.
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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:53 AM

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Until I see that the cop's life was in danger, my mind will not change. I don't care what this "kid" did before. I would have bet money that he was not an angel and I would bet that he did something to ignite the scuffle. Deadly force was not necessary (based on what we know).

These cops are cowards. It has been proven after the fact. Another department had to take over because they are clueless, wanna-be military idiots.
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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:55 AM

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TallCool wrote: None of this defends a cop shooting an unarmed man multiple times while running from him.

ohlord

It's even further poor handling of this investigation. That police chief should not be speaking in public. He's awful.
you think that narrative is true still?

this information should have been out sooner. The race hustlers wanted the name of the cop and he relented....the cop would be in danger if he didn't put out why he was with Micheal Brown.

I'm a big guy but I think I would be a little scared of a 6'-4" 300 pound 18 year old...I'm sure you wouldn't thoughrolleyes
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Posted: 8/15/2014 10:59 AM

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Rabbe wrote:
TallCool wrote: None of this defends a cop shooting an unarmed man multiple times while running from him.

ohlord

It's even further poor handling of this investigation. That police chief should not be speaking in public. He's awful.
you think that narrative is true still?

this information should have been out sooner. The race hustlers wanted the name of the cop and he relented....the cop would be in danger if he didn't put out why he was with Micheal Brown.
The entire thing has been handled poorly. There has been no procedure followed on any of it.

The "race hustlers" have a valid gripe this time. When cops are caught on tape calling them "animals", arresting media for sitting at a McDonald's table, dressing up like GI Joe, pointing guns at people, and throwing tear gas into crowds, I'd say that's a problem.
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Posted: 8/15/2014 11:02 AM

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Not saying the killing was justified. I'm saying you haven't been in that position. You don't know what you'd do if you felt threatened.

I know if a big dude like Mr. Brown has already assualted me once and tried to take my gun and he's seeming aggressive again I'm giving him one warning and I'm shooting.

The idea of if the cop's life was in danger is pretty abstract at the point. From the outside looking in you can say no. But yourself in that situation then maybe your opinion changes.

We don't exactly know what Mr. Brown was doing the moment he was shot. I don't, you don't and the media doesn't. You really going to believe Mr. Brown's buddy?

allCool wrote: Until I see that the cop's life was in danger, my mind will not change. I don't care what this "kid" did before. I would have bet money that he was not an angel and I would bet that he did something to ignite the scuffle. Deadly force was not necessary (based on what we know).

These cops are cowards. It has been proven after the fact. Another department had to take over because they are clueless, wanna-be military idiots.
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Posted: 8/15/2014 11:04 AM

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TallCool wrote:


The "race hustlers" have a valid gripe this time. When cops are caught on tape calling them "animals", arresting media for sitting at a McDonald's table, dressing up like GI Joe, pointing guns at people, and throwing tear gas into crowds, I'd say that's a problem.
From the videos I've seen, how else would you describe the rioters? Animals seems like a pretty accurate descprition of their behavior.

I have not seen reports of cops arresting media. Is that true over overblown and over reported?

Again, did the tear gas and riot police not do their jobs in stopping the riots and looting?
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Posted: 8/15/2014 11:08 AM

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SigHansen wrote: Not saying the killing was justified. I'm saying you haven't been in that position. You don't know what you'd do if you felt threatened.

I know if a big dude like Mr. Brown has already assualted me once and tried to take my gun and he's seeming aggressive again I'm giving him one warning and I'm shooting.

The idea of if the cop's life was in danger is pretty abstract at the point. From the outside looking in you can say no. But yourself in that situation then maybe your opinion changes.

We don't exactly know what Mr. Brown was doing the moment he was shot. I don't, you don't and the media doesn't. You really going to believe Mr. Brown's buddy?

allCool wrote: Until I see that the cop's life was in danger, my mind will not change. I don't care what this "kid" did before. I would have bet money that he was not an angel and I would bet that he did something to ignite the scuffle. Deadly force was not necessary (based on what we know).

These cops are cowards. It has been proven after the fact. Another department had to take over because they are clueless, wanna-be military idiots.
1) You don't know if I've been in that position.  tongue
2) Cops are trained when to use deadly force. They have to control their emotions.
3) All of my opinions are based on the speculation that is being reported and discussed.
4) There would be a lot less confusion and outrage if the police department knew how to handle a situation like this. They initially leak some facts, then withhold the cop's name, play military for a few days, now release a little more info including cop's name.
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Posted: 8/15/2014 11:11 AM

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TallCool wrote: Until I see that the cop's life was in danger, my mind will not change. I don't care what this "kid" did before. I would have bet money that he was not an angel and I would bet that he did something to ignite the scuffle. Deadly force was not necessary (based on what we know).

These cops are cowards. It has been proven after the fact. Another department had to take over because they are clueless, wanna-be military idiots.

At what time should the cop or you for that matter have decided his life was in danger?   Still believe the cop "pulled" a 300lb plus person into his squad car while in a sitting position? It was a ROBBERY he was responding to and yet with his expert training he should have deduced that the suspect was unarmed.


Seems we are finding out more and more.  Put on a uniform and experience this first hand, then come back and preach.

Based on what WE know ? How about what they know. Don't believe you or I have been directly involved with this situation so in reality WE don't KNOW squat about what happened
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Posted: 8/15/2014 11:13 AM

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TallCool wrote:
 
1) You don't know if I've been in that position.  tongue
2) Cops are trained when to use deadly force. They have to control their emotions.
3) All of my opinions are based on the speculation that is being reported and discussed.
4) There would be a lot less confusion and outrage if the police department knew how to handle a situation like this. They initially leak some facts, then withhold the cop's name, play military for a few days, now release a little more info including cop's name.

I do know you haven't been in that position or you wouldn't be so judgmental of the officer involved. Perhaps this cop's advanced training is what led him to believe his life was in danger based on assailants behavior? Maybe you shouldn't base your opinions on speculation and wait till facts come out before you call someone a murderer.

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Posted: 8/15/2014 11:14 AM

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So the media put out a pic of Briwn that was from several years ago...when he was much younger instead of a current photo? Where have I seen this before?

Guess we can blame the media for the violence and stirring up problems in Ferguson now. Damn,




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