Zebbie has posted here and on other boards that Tech has fallen behind (other conference schools) in facilities improvements. I disagree.

A 2012 ranking of Big 12 facilities ranked us highly:

1. Texas: The Longhorns are the Joneses. Not just in the Big 12, but in all of college football. That's life when your budget dwarfs all others across the college football landscape. New Big 12 commish Bob Bowlsby called UT the "800-pound gorilla" in college athletics, but gorillas don't reach 800 pounds without state-of-the-art facilities at every corner.

2. Oklahoma State: The difference between Nos. 2 and 3 on this list is miniscule, but I see it this way: Just about everything Oklahoma has is bigger, but everything OSU has is newer and nicer. Advantage Cowboys, who are in the process of building an indoor practice facility, leaving Texas Tech as the only Big 12 team without one.

3. Oklahoma: Oklahoma doesn't have a sugar daddy like T. Boone Pickens, but when you've won as much through history as the Sooners have, you don't need one. The Sooners are in the top tier of Big 12 facilities, and like I said, you could make a case for Oklahoma at No. 2 on this list, if only for its stadium.

4. Texas Tech: Don't focus so much on the lack of an indoor practice facility. What Texas Tech does have is extremely modern but also purposely fits the rustic feel of Lubbock on the outside. Tommy Tuberville is campaigning a bit to have that indoor facility eventually built.

Why would anyone view us as lagging in the facilities race?

The problem is our competition is so fierce for recruits.

We can't afford for facilities to become a liability. I won't say we are "behind" but we certainly aren't ahead.

We have come a long way in a short time though, and we shouldn't lose sight of that. What we can show recruits is momentum and improvement as an athletic program. I don't think anyone in the conference, except maybe OSU, has invested into football as often and for as much money as Texas Tech has over the past decade or so, starting with the west side structure at the Jones.

With the planned upgrades to the stadium, all we need is a good IPF and our facilities will be as good as anyones. I can't imagine that fund raising for the IPF isn't a top priority for the AD at this point, he's a smart guy and he knows what it takes to compete for recruits.

Much of it has to do with the inferiority complex many Tech fans have. Fans of other schools don't poor mouth their programs, even if they aren't the absolute best.

andtheblack2 wrote: Much of it has to do with the inferiority complex many Tech fans have. Fans of other schools don't poor mouth their programs, even if they aren't the absolute best.

I suggest you spend some time on the WVU forum. You'll change your mind!

When I read some fan of a competing school talk about how little money Tech has ( as I've read on the WVU Big 12 board) I realize it's not because that fan has any real knowledge of Tech's financial situation. He is more than likely repeating what he's heard some Tech fan say.

Baylor has about $48m invested in practice facilities. Ours cost $12m to build. We have added about $4m in upgrades.... New turf, remodeled locker room, meeting rooms, entrance etc. We got out construction in probably at a better rate than Baylor but I would imagine we could at least expand the weight room (o$u's is like x4 bigger, ut and ou both probably have rooms at least x2 as big). And kliff will know exactly where we are lagging with aTm. An indoor facility would go a long way in helping us catch up.
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--- andtheblack2 wrote:

Zebbie has posted here and on other boards that Tech has fallen behind (other conference schools) in facilities improvements. I disagree.

A 2012 ranking of Big 12 facilities ranked us highly:

1. Texas: The Longhorns are the Joneses. Not just in the Big 12, but in all of college football. That's life when your budget dwarfs all others across the college football landscape. New Big 12 commish Bob Bowlsby called UT the "800-pound gorilla" in college athletics, but gorillas don't reach 800 pounds without state-of-the-art facilities at every corner.

2. Oklahoma State: The difference between Nos. 2 and 3 on this list is miniscule, but I see it this way: Just about everything Oklahoma has is bigger, but everything OSU has is newer and nicer. Advantage Cowboys, who are in the process of building an indoor practice facility, leaving Texas Tech as the only Big 12 team without one.

3. Oklahoma: Oklahoma doesn't have a sugar daddy like T. Boone Pickens, but when you've won as much through history as the Sooners have, you don't need one. The Sooners are in the top tier of Big 12 facilities, and like I said, you could make a case for Oklahoma at No. 2 on this list, if only for its stadium.

4. Texas Tech: Don't focus so much on the lack of an indoor practice facility. What Texas Tech does have is extremely modern but also purposely fits the rustic feel of Lubbock on the outside. Tommy Tuberville is campaigning a bit to have that indoor facility eventually built.

Why would anyone view us as lagging in the facilities race?

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--- andtheblack2 wrote:

Much of it has to do with the inferiority complex many Tech fans have. Fans of other schools don't poor mouth their programs, even if they aren't the absolute best.

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Speaking of inferiority complexes. Go back to your cess pool of hate and lies

We aren't so far behind that they are a genuine liability.... But we are behind the other schools in Texas and Oklahoma. As I mentioned, an ipf and expanding our weight room would go a long way.

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--- StanleyXY wrote:

The problem is our competition is so fierce for recruits.

We can't afford for facilities to become a liability. I won't say we are "behind" but we certainly aren't ahead.

We have come a long way in a short time though, and we shouldn't lose sight of that. What we can show recruits is momentum and improvement as an athletic program. I don't think anyone in the conference, except maybe OSU, has invested into football as often and for as much money as Texas Tech has over the past decade or so, starting with the west side structure at the Jones.

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TCU has a very nice IPF, new weight room and locker area. KSU is building a new players,LR, weight room.

andtheblack2 wrote: 

A 2012 ranking of Big 12 facilities ranked us highly:

A ranking by a single blogger of his opinion.  While I don't think our facilities are all that lacking, I'm not sure the source should be taken as gospel.

Doesn't matter. Since this is an official espn blogger, his word is taken pretty much as gospel by the interested stake holders.

RRTrappedInAustin wrote:

andtheblack2 wrote: 

A 2012 ranking of Big 12 facilities ranked us highly:

A ranking by a single blogger of his opinion.  While I don't think our facilities are all that lacking, I'm not sure the source should be taken as gospel.

texastechfan wrote: With the planned upgrades to the stadium, all we need is a good IPF and our facilities will be as good as anyones. I can't imagine that fund raising for the IPF isn't a top priority for the AD at this point, he's a smart guy and he knows what it takes to compete for recruits.

I am not going to go through all the past threads to find it, but the IPF has already been voted on, approved, and construction is starting (I think in July).  This is already a done deal

For more info on the IPF, see:
http://www.fpc.ttu.edu/fpcweb/project/projectdetai l.jsf?id=548
First time linking. If fails FIFM!

ttutortilla wrote: For more info on the IPF, see:
http://www.fpc.ttu.edu/fpcweb/project/projectdetai l.jsf?id=548
First time linking. If fails FIFM!

Indoor Practice Facility


Looks like it will finish up August 1.

Not sure if we are that far along, but on the Tech projects page, it has a budget of $12m and projected start date of July 2013
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--- fromcentex wrote:

texastechfan wrote: With the planned upgrades to the stadium, all we need is a good IPF and our facilities will be as good as anyones. I can't imagine that fund raising for the IPF isn't a top priority for the AD at this point, he's a smart guy and he knows what it takes to compete for recruits.

I am not going to go through all the past threads to find it, but the IPF has already been voted on, approved, and construction is starting (I think in July).  This is already a done deal

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HaysCounty wrote:

ttutortilla wrote: For more info on the IPF, see:
http://www.fpc.ttu.edu/fpcweb/project/projectdetai l.jsf?id=548
First time linking. If fails FIFM!

Indoor Practice Facility


Looks like it will finish up August 1.

Thanks for the link. Its too bad they are putting it over the grass surface. I was hoping theyd put it next to the road so we could take down that really ugly blacked out fence.

Maybe one day Tech will realize how stupid that makes that section of our campus look and will put up some kind of retaining wall that isn't so damn ugly around the practice field.

We don't play inside, we shouldn't practice inside.

I guess that's why nobody in the NFL uses them.

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--- seaTTleR8r wrote:

We don't play inside, we shouldn't practice inside.

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seaTTleR8r wrote: We don't play inside, we shouldn't practice inside.

I agree, but sometimes its necessary. Practice in the 15-25 mph winds and light rains. Go inside during the dust storms or heavy rains. No need to cancel practice for that sort of thing.