http://www.ndtv.com/article/in...bai-visit-64106

Is there any shred of fiscal responsibility in this President?

nope

They're taking 40 planes and 3,000 people...I'm pretty sure Hitler invaded Poland with less than that...maybe he's planning on staying over there ...

I hear that he's staying in the hotel that those Muslim terrorists attacked a few years ago. Probably some kind of memorial celebration of the attack that he's giving a keynote address for.

So ... the $200M per day number? Made up. It's propaganda. Way to spread it around!

The White House, specifically the Secret Service, does not EVER reveal what they spend before a trip. The $200M number was stated by an unnamed Indian source, and has been repeated ad infinitum like it is Gospel.

Bush's trip to Dubai in 2008 was said to cost $117M, but that number was false as well. That was the trip where the US government rented the entire King David Hotel. By the way, which do you think is more expensive - a luxury hotel in Dubai, or a luxury hotel in Mumbai? Doesn't matter - that number was made up as well - It was from a Dubai gov't source who was talking about their costs and supposedly lost revenue. It was BS then, it is BS now.

Source

By the way, if you spent $200M renting rooms at the Taj Mahal in Mumbai, you could rent over 650,000 rooms. Over 5 square miles of hotel space. I wonder how many they actually have...? Oh, 600.

But hey, don't let facts get in your way ...

That would be a logical argument if one believed that hotel rooms were the only cost of the trip.

The party has booked 800 rooms at one of the most expensive hotels in southeast Asia. Why on earth they would need 800 rooms is unknown to me.

There are also six US warships that are being moved to the region to provide intelligence support and protection for the President.

There is a ground security detaul that has effectively clsoed off nearly half of Mumbai.

There are the two 767s (Airforce One and Airforce Two) that will take the President and his 800 person entourage there. 

There is the Presidential helicopter that is being transported there to take Barry from the airport to his hotel.

There is the Presidential Limousine that is being transported there to take Michelle the beast and those two fat little children of his shopping at every store in town.

All of this, at a time when Obama has spent us into a decade long recession from which we may possiblly never recover.

Now, you know the rest of the story (most likely just part of it).  You may apologize and thank me for informing you now.

No apologies. The article is full of baloney. I provided a source from a reputable organization. You didn't. Because you can't. 

Again, the Secret Service does not and will not ever release how much is being spent on security. Do you want the President of the United States to be assassinated? I don't. Why would we give out that information? But yeah, go ahead and trust an unnamed Indian government official...

Hotel Rooms: There's about 600 in the Taj, and 200 at the Hyatt across the street (SOURCE). So if you're going to whine, at least get your facts straight. It's common practice to reserve an entire hotel these days, especially when there's a possibility of violence. Bush did the same. The secret service probably makes it a requirement.

Warships: probably a good idea. That would happen if he was visiting any sea-side foreign country. Also, not sure you know, but part of the Mumbai terror attacks started by sea...

Ground security closing off half of Mumbai - not unusual. The traffic there is terrible. But we're not providing all the security. Most of that is local, and is paid for by the Indian government.

Two 767's? Big deal. That's $200k. Would you rather the president fly coach? 800 people don't fit on two 767's. That's way over capacity. And wouldn't the president fly on Air Force One? I thought that was a 747. So is it now a 747 and two 767's for these 800 people? Also, would you rather that we not attend the G-20? That's also included in the trip. Or would you rather that the US concede all power and direction for the world?

Presidential helicopter - definitely not unusual. You don't want the presidential motorcade blocked because there's a cow in the street in Mumbai.

Presidential limousine - definitely not unusual. You don't want to trust a Tata for the physical security of the leader of the free world.

"Michelle the beast and those two fat little children of his shopping at every store in town." Classy. So very classy. Why are you so insecure that you have to have to resort to spewing names and insults at women and children? I mean, that's just plain weak.

The Obama spending recession - yeah. There was never a problem with government spending until 2008

Every one of those logictical costs that you quoted Led are going to be the same for any trip a president takes. So its not fair to somehow imply that they are unique to this trip. What do you think they did when Bush went to Russia, or Nixon went to China, or Bush went to Pris or Obama went to Africa?

And, having been onboard Air Force 1 several times, I can assure you that it cannot hold several hundred people. You might be lucky to get 100 on board, but thats counting staff. So the 800 folks are mostly going commercial.

Oh..they have to pay their own way as well. Press corps doesnt fly for free.

Warships, again they are maneuvered whenever the president is in a position where they would be needed. plus, we already have a fleet stationed in that region, so it doesnt really require much moving to have them there. You do know that we have military bases in the Indian Ocean, right?

Anyway...there is no need to create controversy when we have plenty of existing real issues that arent in doubt...

Factcheck.org is not a reputable organization. It is tied to the Annenberg Foundation which has close ties to Obama and Bill Ayers.  It was created to create the perception that it is  reputable organization. The truth is that it is a spin machine for Democrats.

I'll be waiting on that apology now.

The difference between this President and others is that this one is doing it after having spent us into a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit.  Austerity should be a higher priority rather than planning some overly expensive unecessary trip.

You're getting no apology because you are a propagandist who insults women and children. And you're mostly wrong. Maybe you wake up that way. Not sure.

So an unnamed, unverified source in India is more reputable than FactCheck.org? FactCheck.org is too liberal (but aren't all facts?) So let's take a look at it from another liberal rag, like Stars and Stripes. How about Fox News?

A spokesman for The White House says, "The numbers reported in this article have no basis in reality. Due to security concerns, we are unable to outline details associated with security procedures and costs, but it's safe to say these numbers are wildly inflated."

A spokesman for The Pentagon says, "I think there has been a lot of creative writing that's been done on this trip over the last few days ... We obviously have some support role for presidential travel ... but I will take the liberty this time of dismissing as absolutely absurd, this notion that somehow we are deploying 10 percent of the Navy, some 34 ships and an aircraft carrier in support of the president's trip to Asia -- that's just comical... Nothing close to that is being done, but the notion that president would require security as he travels to India and elsewhere should not come as a surprise to anyone." That was backed up by a military official.

But hey - our military and Fox News ... they're too librul, right Led?

I warned you guys about feeding the troll.

Mynok wrote:
I warned you guys about feeding the troll.

But it's so fun!

HaHa....Mynok my man...been awhile.  Hope things are well. 

I aspire to remain as composed as zero, but it's just frustrating.   

Big game this weekend and exhibition tonight... Go Cocks!

Nice to see you around again, bud. It concerns me a little that it took a pol troll to do it.

Haha absolutely, been transitioning.  Moved from the city up to a small town in VT.  Beautiful place, reminds me of the south, good-hearted folks, albeit a bit colder.

I imagine that the good folk up in Vermont dont really know what to do with a good Gamecock fan...

More debunking for dummies:

Anderson Cooper
Politifact
USA Today
Snopes
Wall Street Journal

Darned liberal facts...

Tis true CocknTaterland, but over near Vermont Law there are a few Carolina grads and others who work at the school who are from SC.   Also met a Clemson grad, UGA, Arkansas, Florida so all get together for the games.  VT Law has a program with Carolina so I guess that how they get up here.  Either way I'm out and about spreading the Gamecock Love on Saturdays.

Its an interesting group of people nice mix of conservatives and liberals, what's nice is they gather together around environmental concerns.  The biggest problem up here now is the closing of VT Yankee Nuclear Plant and what type of affect that will have on the small businesses around the area who receive energy at a cheaper rate than other sources.

Here is another article busting your #'s:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/0 5/2010-11-05_president_obamas_trip_to_india_will_c ost_200m_a_day_gop_claim_white_house_says_t.html

Though I am sure you will say the dailynews is biased since Zuckerman is a lawyer, UPENN and Harvard educated, Jewish and appears on MSNBC sometimes, there are plenty of embedded links.