Are Landry Jones' stats that much better than Weedens?   The Tulsa World reported that Jones won the Sammy Baugh award for best passing QB.

Weeden threw for 32 tds and 13 inteceptions and Landry threw for 35 tds and 11 intereceptions.  Landry played 1 more game so the stats are basically even except for Weeden having a couple of more turnovers.   Pretty even for the most part.

somebody needs to determine how many yards laundry wound up with when he actually threw the ball about 5 yards and broyles and murray did the rest

the majority of weeden's YAC came because he made perfect throws down the field that hit receivers in stride

i am so out on laundry jones ... the hype makes me ill

umpnchf wrote: somebody needs to determine how many yards laundry wound up with when he actually threw the ball about 5 yards and broyles and murray did the rest

the majority of weeden's YAC came because he made perfect throws down the field that hit receivers in stride

i am so out on laundry jones ... the hype makes me ill

What hype?  The productivity's there, Ump.  I know we don't like it, but he DID lead his team to the conference championship, while putting up passing numbers as good as BW's.  Gotta count for something.

Both of these QB's had outstanding seasons.  Who wins what awards is mostly based on who is issuing the awards.  Jones will probably get more national recognitions because of playing for OU.  Weeden will probably, and has, get more recognition form the Big 12 programs because these people see what he has done on a much closer level than the national people.

jameswright256 wrote:

umpnchf wrote: somebody needs to determine how many yards laundry wound up with when he actually threw the ball about 5 yards and broyles and murray did the rest

the majority of weeden's YAC came because he made perfect throws down the field that hit receivers in stride

i am so out on laundry jones ... the hype makes me ill

What hype?  The productivity's there, Ump.  I know we don't like it, but he DID lead his team to the conference championship, while putting up passing numbers as good as BW's.  Gotta count for something.

I think what Ump is saying (and it's the way I feel as well) is that Jones is more a product of the system than Weeden is.  Jones throws a ton of bubble screens & swing passes that are near the line of scrimmage & counts on his receivers to get YAC.  Thus, less opportunities to throw INTs.  Weeden throws the ball down the field more than Jones, thus more opportunities for INTs.  If you watch the two QBs make all the throws (deep outs, long balls, etc), I think you'll come away more impressed with Weeden.

the problem I have with it is not the Weeden comparison, (although I do think Brandon is a better quarterback)...

but this is a NATIONAL award, or supposed to be, although to be honest I can't remember ever noticing that they hand it out...
a NATIONAL AWARD

and then you see that there are 26 guys better them Jones....

Bowl Subdivision (FBS) National Player Report
Passing Efficiency

Year: 2010

Thru: 12/04/10 Minimum Pct. of Games Played 75 Minimum 15 pass attempts per game

Rank	Player	Pos	Cl	Gm	Patt	Pcomp	Comppct	Int	Intpct	Pyds	Ydspatt	TDs	TDpct	Rating
1	Cam Newton, Auburn	QB	JR	13	246	165	67.07	6	2.44	2589	10.52	28	11.38	188.16
2	Kellen Moore, Boise St.	QB	JR	12	345	245	71.01	5	1.45	3506	10.16	33	9.57	185.04
3	Ryan Mallett, Arkansas	QB	JR	12	364	242	66.48	11	3.02	3592	9.87	30	8.24	170.53
4	Scott Tolzien, Wisconsin	QB	SR	12	245	182	74.29	6	2.45	2300	9.39	16	6.53	169.80
5	Andy Dalton, TCU	QB	SR	12	293	194	66.21	6	2.05	2638	9.00	26	8.87	167.03
6	Greg McElroy, Alabama	QB	SR	12	296	209	70.61	5	1.69	2767	9.35	19	6.42	166.94
7	Andrew Luck, Stanford	QB	SO	12	349	245	70.20	7	2.01	3051	8.74	28	8.02	166.10
8	Jeffrey Godfrey, UCF	QB	FR	13	209	143	68.42	6	2.87	2042	9.77	13	6.22	165.28
9	Aaron Murray, Georgia	QB	FR	12	304	188	61.84	6	1.97	2851	9.38	24	7.89	162.73
10	Bryant Moniz, Hawaii	QB	JR	13	508	337	66.34	11	2.17	4629	9.11	36	7.09	161.94
11	Richard Stanzi, Iowa	QB	SR	12	324	210	64.81	4	1.23	2804	8.65	25	7.72	160.50
12	Dan Persa, Northwestern	QB	JR	10	302	222	73.51	4	1.32	2581	8.55	15	4.97	159.04
13	Tyrod Taylor, Virginia Tech	QB	SR	13	284	172	60.56	4	1.41	2521	8.88	23	8.10	159.04
14	Terrelle Pryor, Ohio St.	QB	JR	12	298	196	65.77	11	3.69	2551	8.56	25	8.39	157.98
15	Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma St.	QB	JR	12	470	317	67.45	13	2.77	4037	8.59	32	6.81	156.53
16	Chandler Harnish, Northern Ill.	QB	JR	12	266	172	64.66	5	1.88	2230	8.38	20	7.52	156.14
17	Colin Kaepernick, Nevada	QB	SR	13	326	213	65.34	7	2.15	2830	8.68	20	6.13	154.21
18	Stephen Garcia, South Carolina	QB	JR	13	315	205	65.08	11	3.49	2816	8.94	20	6.35	154.14
19	Kirk Cousins, Michigan St.	QB	JR	12	320	216	67.50	9	2.81	2705	8.45	20	6.25	153.51
20	Denard Robinson, Michigan	QB	SO	12	250	155	62.00	10	4.00	2316	9.26	16	6.40	152.94
21	Darron Thomas, Oregon	QB	SO	12	321	195	60.75	7	2.18	2518	7.84	28	8.72	151.06
22	Geno Smith, West Virginia	QB	SO	12	333	219	65.77	6	1.80	2567	7.71	23	6.91	149.71
23	T.J. Yates, North Carolina	QB	SR	12	383	259	67.62	8	2.09	3184	8.31	18	4.70	148.79
24	Mike Hartline, Kentucky	QB	SR	12	405	268	66.17	9	2.22	3178	7.85	23	5.68	146.38
25	Ryan Lindley, San Diego St.	QB	JR	12	398	225	56.53	14	3.52	3554	8.93	26	6.53	146.06
26	Nick Foles, Arizona	QB	JR	10	376	254	67.55	7	1.86	2911	7.74	19	5.05	145.54
27	Landry Jones, Oklahoma	QB	SO	13	568	371	65.32	11	1.94	4289	7.55	35	6.16	145.21
28	Robert Griffin III, Baylor	QB	SO	12	413	274	66.34	8	1.94	3195	7.74	21	5.08	144.23

it's a joke
but, really like I said, it's not the HEISMAN, not the O'Brien...

seriously, it a Columbus Ohio men's club, it's like the local Knights of Columbus is tossing out awards
it doesn't matter, it's nothing
my guess, since it's an Ohio men's club-they're hoping Stoops will attend the banquet with Landry

umpnchf wrote: somebody needs to determine how many yards laundry wound up with when he actually threw the ball about 5 yards and broyles and murray did the rest

the majority of weeden's YAC came because he made perfect throws down the field that hit receivers in stride

i am so out on laundry jones ... the hype makes me ill

Weeden underthrows Blackmon all the time....

cvasso wrote:

umpnchf wrote: somebody needs to determine how many yards laundry wound up with when he actually threw the ball about 5 yards and broyles and murray did the rest

the majority of weeden's YAC came because he made perfect throws down the field that hit receivers in stride

i am so out on laundry jones ... the hype makes me ill

Weeden underthrows Blackmon all the time....

It's hard to underthrow for Landry Jones when his passes cover 5 Yards!

Biggest joke award given.  Half of the ou fans are wanting another QB to take his place, he is the worst QB in the BIG XII under pressure

AggieTruth wrote: Biggest joke award given.  Half of the ou fans are wanting another QB to take his place, he is the worst QB in the BIG XII under pressure

I'd have given ti to Kellen Moore myself, at least you wouldn't look stupid in the eyes of the country

thepoker2 wrote:

jameswright256 wrote:

umpnchf wrote: somebody needs to determine how many yards laundry wound up with when he actually threw the ball about 5 yards and broyles and murray did the rest

the majority of weeden's YAC came because he made perfect throws down the field that hit receivers in stride

i am so out on laundry jones ... the hype makes me ill

What hype?  The productivity's there, Ump.  I know we don't like it, but he DID lead his team to the conference championship, while putting up passing numbers as good as BW's.  Gotta count for something.

I think what Ump is saying (and it's the way I feel as well) is that Jones is more a product of the system than Weeden is.  Jones throws a ton of bubble screens & swing passes that are near the line of scrimmage & counts on his receivers to get YAC.  Thus, less opportunities to throw INTs.  Weeden throws the ball down the field more than Jones, thus more opportunities for INTs.  If you watch the two QBs make all the throws (deep outs, long balls, etc), I think you'll come away more impressed with Weeden.

Seriously?  Who's NOT a product of their respective system?

BW's got the better, NFL-caliber arm, no doubt.  We throw ALOT of short passes, too, though.

I agree w/SFN, though, how a national award is given to him over all those other guys is inexplicalbe, except for some stupid rules that most of these awards have.

The difference between Jones and Weeden in an award like this is that OU won the Big 12 Championship, oSu did not.  We had our chance.

Jones has everything Weeden does.  NFL arm, good vision, good decision making, can make all the throws and is a leader on the field.  In the end, he will prove to be a better QB.

logisticsoul wrote: Jones has everything Weeden does.  NFL arm, good vision, good decision making, can make all the throws and is a leader on the field.  In the end, he will prove to be a better QB.

are you kidding me? Jones can't even properly throw the damn ball out of bounds on a busted play.

logisticsoul wrote: Jones has everything Weeden does.  NFL arm, good vision, good decision making, can make all the throws and is a leader on the field.  In the end, he will prove to be a better QB.

Keep that banner flying
no matter how ridiculous it sounds

umpnchf wrote: somebody needs to determine how many yards laundry wound up with when he actually threw the ball about 5 yards and broyles and murray did the rest

the majority of weeden's YAC came because he made perfect throws down the field that hit receivers in stride

i am so out on laundry jones ... the hype makes me ill

It's awesome to love your team and its players but . . . wow 

hobospider wrote:

umpnchf wrote: somebody needs to determine how many yards laundry wound up with when he actually threw the ball about 5 yards and broyles and murray did the rest

the majority of weeden's YAC came because he made perfect throws down the field that hit receivers in stride

i am so out on laundry jones ... the hype makes me ill

It's awesome to love your team and its players but . . . wow 

Yeah, cuz Jones didn't hit Kenney in stride, or the other guy 2 minutes later....

lmao and Mike Hamiliton is still better then Adrian Peterson.

thats kind of a weird screen name..  but to each his own I guess.

wheatwavinhomo wrote: lmao and Mike Hamiliton is still better then Adrian Peterson.