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Posted: 9/3/2014 1:38 PM

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Mark Rogers and Jake Trotter were discussing how many Quarterbacks would OSU play this week.
They concurred that we would see two and maybe three.
Also they were talking about Walsh's game being a great runner and inconsistent on decision making and not hitting all the throws.
It sounded like to me they were describing Trevor Knight. I was wondering how many Qb's OU would play Saturday.
Then again OU doesn't have a clear #2.

Question for those on the board.
What are the differences in Knight Vs Walsh?

Last edited 9/3/2014 1:46 PM by burkcowboy

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Posted: 9/3/2014 1:47 PM

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I'm looking forward to seeing Garman and Rudolph get some playing time this week. According to today's roster, the only other QB is Taylor Cornelius, a freshman whose name I don't recall ever being mentioned.





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Posted: 9/3/2014 1:59 PM

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I agree, I would like to see what he can do running the offense and his passing game.

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I'm looking forward to seeing Garman and Rudolph get some playing time this week. According to today's roster, the only other QB is Taylor Cornelius, a freshman whose name I don't recall ever being mentioned.

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Posted: 9/3/2014 2:08 PM

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not much other than he might be a bit stronger than walsh in terms of arm strength. other than that the are the same QB with the same problems

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Posted: 9/3/2014 2:12 PM

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It's really still about the same story for now between Knight and Walsh. Walsh playing well against FSU is Knight playing well versus Bama. Knight looked sharp with the 1s on Saturday and couldn't get his backup WRs to catch a cold. With that being said, it was LA Tech... so what can you make of that performance other than to say "well... at least it wasn't bad" like against Monroe and WVU a year ago. He does look like he will be able to play at a high level this year. Just appeared to be worlds more confident and prepared. Walsh's fumble is hardly something I'd fault him for. It was brace yourself for the fall or break your neck holding onto the football. He just can't let it haunt him going forward.
Neither team was in a position to really play their #2 QB last week. One was trying to pull off what would've been the biggest upset of the week and the other's backup QB was out with a hammy injury. And how often do you really see the #3 QB?
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Posted: 9/3/2014 2:36 PM

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It's really still about the same story for now between Knight and Walsh. Walsh playing well against FSU is Knight playing well versus Bama. Knight looked sharp with the 1s on Saturday and couldn't get his backup WRs to catch a cold. With that being said, it was LA Tech... so what can you make of that performance other than to say "well... at least it wasn't bad" like against Monroe and WVU a year ago. He does look like he will be able to play at a high level this year. Just appeared to be worlds more confident and prepared. Walsh's fumble is hardly something I'd fault him for. It was brace yourself for the fall or break your neck holding onto the football. He just can't let it haunt him going forward.
Neither team was in a position to really play their #2 QB last week. One was trying to pull off what would've been the biggest upset of the week and the other's backup QB was out with a hammy injury. And how often do you really see the #3 QB?

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I agree with your assessment as well. OU is pretty week at receiver and still a few questions at running back. They did look ok Saturday but that was La Tech.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 2:51 PM

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Part of me wants/hopes to get through this season using only Walsh and Garmin.  That allows us to redshirt Rudolph.  I won't lose sleep if we have to burn the redshirt though.  I trust the coaches in doing what they have to do.

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Posted: 9/3/2014 3:47 PM

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Mark Rogers and Jake Trotter were discussing how many Quarterbacks would OSU play this week.
They concurred that we would see two and maybe three.
Also they were talking about Walsh's game being a great runner and inconsistent on decision making and not hitting all the throws.
It sounded like to me they were describing Trevor Knight. I was wondering how many Qb's OU would play Saturday.
Then again OU doesn't have a clear #2.

Question for those on the board.
What are the differences in Knight Vs Walsh?

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What would either if those two know about being a D-1 QB?

I believe Walsh is a stronger, tougher runner than Knight
Passing, knight had had one good game, so I'd say both are inconsistent
Really, not much difference IMHO

Of course one plays for a helmet, and is being you're dad a Hypesman winner
The other plays for a blue collar school that has to earn everything they do
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Posted: 9/3/2014 4:05 PM

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Tayvl wrote: I'm looking forward to seeing Garman and Rudolph get some playing time this week. According to today's roster, the only other QB is Taylor Cornelius, a freshman whose name I don't recall ever being mentioned.

Walsh is the QB and has earned the right to play without looking over his shoulder to see if the guys on the bench are warming up.  The annual fan ritual of saying the backup QB is better than the starter is tired.  Gundy should play Walsh through the mid-fourth quarter no matter the score.  Garman and Rudolph should get a few snaps but not play any significant minutes.

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Posted: 9/3/2014 4:43 PM

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roy4pokes wrote:
Tayvl wrote: I'm looking forward to seeing Garman and Rudolph get some playing time this week. According to today's roster, the only other QB is Taylor Cornelius, a freshman whose name I don't recall ever being mentioned.

Walsh is the QB and has earned the right to play without looking over his shoulder to see if the guys on the bench are warming up.  The annual fan ritual of saying the backup QB is better than the starter is tired.  Gundy should play Walsh through the mid-fourth quarter no matter the score.  Garman and Rudolph should get a few snaps but not play any significant minutes.
OK, but that doesn't make sense to me. If OSU is 40 or 50 ahead I don't see the reward offsetting the risk of Walsh (or the other #1s) getting a freak injury. I do see the reward if the backups get significant playing time, though.





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Posted: 9/3/2014 5:08 PM

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Did any of them eat any crow this week?

I heard a bit last week during the Tulsa Show and Pat Jones and the bunch were giving the old "eye ball test" crap and were basically saying that we don't have a shot because this is "big boy football".

Did any of them come on the air on Tuesday and give OSU a ton of credit or did they tow the company line and use the FSU didn't show up crap?
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Posted: 9/3/2014 5:12 PM

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For us to win with Walsh, he will have run with the ball. That means more hits and a good chance he could miss a few games. We need a back up ready to go.
I have faith in Walsh to lead this team, but he is injury prone.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 5:36 PM

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But it was ok for you to clammer for the back-up QB (JW) the past two years?

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Tayvl wrote: I'm looking forward to seeing Garman and Rudolph get some playing time this week. According to today's roster, the only other QB is Taylor Cornelius, a freshman whose name I don't recall ever being mentioned.

Walsh is the QB and has earned the right to play without looking over his shoulder to see if the guys on the bench are warming up.  The annual fan ritual of saying the backup QB is better than the starter is tired.  Gundy should play Walsh through the mid-fourth quarter no matter the score.  Garman and Rudolph should get a few snaps but not play any significant minutes.

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Posted: 9/3/2014 5:36 PM

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Playing Walsh after getting a nice lead makes no sense at all. OSU has to get a backup ready to play. If Garman is the clear number two then redshirt Rudolph unles there is an emergency.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 6:19 PM

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If the score allows, I definitely think we should play Rudolph for a quarter. It won't burn his redshirt and it would go a long way to let the staff know how he behaves against at least FCS players, who are better than high schoolers. 

If he is clearly not ready, then he sits until absolutely needed. If he's good, he stays in the mix.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 6:22 PM

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I would like to see Garman start and finnish, if he plays well.  Rudolph would be best Redshirted.  Walsh could be used in several ways.  If we are really an air-raid offense, then the type of QB we need has well above average arm strength and be more accurate than Walsh.  Now, if Garman is not as good as we need, then Getting experience for Rudolph would be useful.   That is my 2 cents worth, (though my opinion is probably only worth half as much).

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Posted: 9/3/2014 6:31 PM

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Put me down as one who thinks the backups should get in the game for experience.

However, I also believe our WR corp need experience too, and JW being the starting QB, they need to be catching passes from him.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 6:33 PM

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I say if we are way up play Daxx,    He hasn't played in five years and certainly needs the game time experience.   Walsh doesn't.   Redshirt Mason.
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Posted: 9/3/2014 6:46 PM

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All I've heard on both stations is guys saying OSU is going to be better than any of them thought, particularly the defense.  The criticisms of Walsh have been pretty fair, saying he's still got to get better throwing the ball.

To the op, Mark Rodgers was the only one I heard leading up to the game saying he thought it would be closer than everyone was projecting, fwiw.

They've all raved about Hill, btw, & think he's the real deal.
pokefan4life wrote: Did any of them eat any crow this week?

I heard a bit last week during the Tulsa Show and Pat Jones and the bunch were giving the old "eye ball test" crap and were basically saying that we don't have a shot because this is "big boy football".

Did any of them come on the air on Tuesday and give OSU a ton of credit or did they tow the company line and use the FSU didn't show up crap?
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Posted: 9/3/2014 6:58 PM

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Here's my question... How many snaps can Rudolph take without burning his redshirt?
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