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Brandon Chatmon - Final Big12 Standings

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Posted: 7/25/2014 7:21 PM

Brandon Chatmon - Final Big12 Standings 


Predicting the 2014 season: Week 15

at Oklahoma 38, Oklahoma State 35:
Another Bedlam, another close game, another late-game win for the Sooners. This time it’s true freshman running back Joe Mixon who turns a swing pass into a late fourth-quarter touchdown, giving the Sooners a late lead and, for the second straight Bedlam game, Oklahoma linebacker Eric Striker seals the win with a big play on the Cowboys’ final drive. The Sooners win the Big 12, and their campaign to be included in the College Football Playoff begins immediately with Bob Stoops saying the Sooner “absolutely” deserve to be one of the four teams included during his postgame comments.



Final Big 12 standings

1. Oklahoma -- 11-1, 8-1
2. Baylor -- 10-2, 7-2
3. Kansas State -- 9-3, 7-2
4. Texas -- 8-4, 6-3
5. TCU -- 8-4, 5-4
6. Texas Tech -- 7-5, 4-5
7. West Virginia -- 5-7, 4-5
8. Oklahoma State -- 5-7, 3-6
9. Kansas -- 3-9, 1-8
10. Iowa State -- 2-10, 0-9
"So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand."

from the “History of the Peloponnesian War” ca. 410 BC, Thucydides

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Posted: 7/25/2014 8:45 PM

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I don't believe it.

Although we have a young, untested team, I do believe our recruiting has kept us up more toward the top of the Big 12.
Like most years, we're not respected I think we'll do much better than this. I'm thinking if Walsh can get the office firing on all 8, our D will mature by the time we're in conference play. 

I see us finishing 3rd.....and that's very respectable, giving us great hope for the future.

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Posted: 7/25/2014 8:58 PM

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Be interesting to see how they get Joe Mixon ready for the Bedlam game considering that he is scheduled to be arrested tonight.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 11:40 PM

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Pokes to finish behind WVU?  No way.

Behind Tech?  YGBSM!

Behind TCU?  Nope

And Texas?  I don't think so.

K-State?  Maybe.  Maybe not.

Baylor?  We've got a fair chance against the Bears

uo?  Who knows?
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Posted: 7/26/2014 7:32 AM

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If there was ever a year for this to be a possibility, it is this season. I don't believe it will happen, but some need to wrap their head around the fact it is in the realm of possibility though. We are incredibly young and inexperienced where anything can happen - good and bad. I think we likely finish 4th or 5th in the conference and get a middling bowl game. That would be a success to me given our limitations this season.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:01 AM

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CaliforniaCowboy wrote: Predicting the 2014 season: Week 15

at Oklahoma 38, Oklahoma State 35:
Another Bedlam, another close game, another late-game win for the Sooners. This time it’s true freshman running back Joe Mixon who turns a swing pass into a late fourth-quarter touchdown, giving the Sooners a late lead and, for the second straight Bedlam game, Oklahoma linebacker Eric Striker seals the win with a big play on the Cowboys’ final drive. The Sooners win the Big 12, and their campaign to be included in the College Football Playoff begins immediately with Bob Stoops saying the Sooner “absolutely” deserve to be one of the four teams included during his postgame comments.

MIGHT happen

Final Big 12 standings

1. Oklahoma -- 11-1, 8-1
2. Baylor -- 10-2, 7-2
3. Kansas State -- 9-3, 7-2
4. Texas -- 8-4, 6-3
5. TCU -- 8-4, 5-4
6. Texas Tech -- 7-5, 4-5
7. West Virginia -- 5-7, 4-5
8. Oklahoma State -- 5-7, 3-6
9. Kansas -- 3-9, 1-8
10. Iowa State -- 2-10, 0-9

WON'T HAPPEN
more sooner wishful thinking
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:45 AM

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KansasPosse wrote: If there was ever a year for this to be a possibility, it is this season. I don't believe it will happen, but some need to wrap their head around the fact it is in the realm of possibility though. We are incredibly young and inexperienced where anything can happen - good and bad.
seriously?

outside of his first season Gundy has never failed to produce a bowl team; regardless of personnel or issues or coach changes.

Why anybody would insist on spreading this stuff around is beyond me.
"So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand."

from the “History of the Peloponnesian War” ca. 410 BC, Thucydides

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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:49 AM

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I don't think we will have to worry about Joe Mixon this year!
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Posted: 7/26/2014 10:02 AM

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westmoore1 wrote: I don't think we will have to worry about Joe Mixon this year!
Don't be so sure....

they have a precedent down there of trying really hard to get players who beat women eligible to play (DGB).

AND

they also have a precedent of restaurant altercations being swept under the rug because the proprietors don't want to be associated with it for fear they may lose their business (Peterson)
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Posted: 7/28/2014 5:51 PM

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First we have this thread-starting original post:
CaliforniaCowboy wrote: Predicting the 2014 season: Week 15

at Oklahoma 38, Oklahoma State 35:
Another Bedlam, another close game, another late-game win for the Sooners. This time it’s true freshman running back Joe Mixon who turns a swing pass into a late fourth-quarter touchdown, giving the Sooners a late lead and, for the second straight Bedlam game, Oklahoma linebacker Eric Striker seals the win with a big play on the Cowboys’ final drive. The Sooners win the Big 12, and their campaign to be included in the College Football Playoff begins immediately with Bob Stoops saying the Sooner “absolutely” deserve to be one of the four teams included during his postgame comments.

Final Big 12 standings

1. Oklahoma -- 11-1, 8-1
2. Baylor -- 10-2, 7-2
3. Kansas State -- 9-3, 7-2
4. Texas -- 8-4, 6-3
5. TCU -- 8-4, 5-4
6. Texas Tech -- 7-5, 4-5
7. West Virginia -- 5-7, 4-5
8. Oklahoma State -- 5-7, 3-6
9. Kansas -- 3-9, 1-8
10. Iowa State -- 2-10, 0-9
Followed FIVE posts later by this:

CaliforniaCowboy wrote:
KansasPosse wrote: If there was ever a year for this to be a possibility, it is this season. I don't believe it will happen, but some need to wrap their head around the fact it is in the realm of possibility though. We are incredibly young and inexperienced where anything can happen - good and bad.
seriously?

outside of his first season Gundy has never failed to produce a bowl team; regardless of personnel or issues or coach changes.

Why anybody would insist on spreading this stuff around is beyond me.
I have accepted that some folks are content to argue with themselves, and this is inarguable proof.

Which will I'm sure cause some to argue to the contrary.
I know, you think I'm an idiot. Try to explain it to me without condescension and arrogance and I might be persuaded
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Posted: 7/28/2014 6:19 PM

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olepoke wrote: Pokes to finish behind WVU?  No way.

Behind Tech?  YGBSM!

Behind TCU?  Nope

And Texas?  I don't think so.

K-State?  Maybe.  Maybe not.

Baylor?  We've got a fair chance the Bears

uo?  Who knows?
Agree...that is a moronic prediction concerning Oklahoma State...not sure if someone at OSU pissed him off, or if he just didn't do his homework.  What I do know is that Oklahoma State has exceptional coaches and has been recuting their butts off over the past several year...I also know that we have won more in the past 7 year than all but 9 or 10 other programs...that would be a MAJOR failure considering what's in our cupboard.

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Posted: 7/29/2014 2:47 AM

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It's official. Chatmon is an idiot.

OSU should be ahead, without question, of UT, Tech, WVU, and TCU.
You can argue KState, Baylor and OU.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 8:57 AM

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IWasThereIn1983 wrote: First we have this thread-starting original post:
CaliforniaCowboy wrote: Predicting the 2014 season: Week 15

at Oklahoma 38, Oklahoma State 35:
Another Bedlam, another close game, another late-game win for the Sooners. This time it’s true freshman running back Joe Mixon who turns a swing pass into a late fourth-quarter touchdown, giving the Sooners a late lead and, for the second straight Bedlam game, Oklahoma linebacker Eric Striker seals the win with a big play on the Cowboys’ final drive. The Sooners win the Big 12, and their campaign to be included in the College Football Playoff begins immediately with Bob Stoops saying the Sooner “absolutely” deserve to be one of the four teams included during his postgame comments.

Final Big 12 standings

1. Oklahoma -- 11-1, 8-1
2. Baylor -- 10-2, 7-2
3. Kansas State -- 9-3, 7-2
4. Texas -- 8-4, 6-3
5. TCU -- 8-4, 5-4
6. Texas Tech -- 7-5, 4-5
7. West Virginia -- 5-7, 4-5
8. Oklahoma State -- 5-7, 3-6
9. Kansas -- 3-9, 1-8
10. Iowa State -- 2-10, 0-9
Followed FIVE posts later by this:

CaliforniaCowboy wrote:
KansasPosse wrote: If there was ever a year for this to be a possibility, it is this season. I don't believe it will happen, but some need to wrap their head around the fact it is in the realm of possibility though. We are incredibly young and inexperienced where anything can happen - good and bad.
seriously?

outside of his first season Gundy has never failed to produce a bowl team; regardless of personnel or issues or coach changes.

Why anybody would insist on spreading this stuff around is beyond me.
I have accepted that some folks are content to argue with themselves, and this is inarguable proof.

Which will I'm sure cause some to argue to the contrary.
junior just because I listed some information about OSU does not mean that I agree with the journalist.

as opposed to an OSU fan supporting and defending that position...

if  you can't discern the differences.. then please stop posting.

some people (you) simply have nothing better to do in their lives than to go around making stuff up about others (apparently in an attempt to place themselves in a more favorable light)

grow up a little... and develop better cognitive skills.
"So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand."

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Posted: 7/29/2014 9:00 AM

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KansasPosse wrote: If there was ever a year for this to be a possibility, it is this season. I don't believe it will happen, but some need to wrap their head around the fact it is in the realm of possibility though. We are incredibly young and inexperienced where anything can happen - good and bad. I think we likely finish 4th or 5th in the conference and get a middling bowl game. That would be a success to me given our limitations this season.
I get what you're saying, but if we finish 5-7 we are probably looking at some serious injuries or other unforeseen events. I think Gundy and Co. have shown they can reload successfully and I think we will end up doing so again this year. I'm thinking 8-9 wins and the Alamo or Russell Athletic Bowl this year.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 9:29 AM

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CaliforniaCowboy wrote:
IWasThereIn1983 wrote: First we have this thread-starting original post:
CaliforniaCowboy wrote: Predicting the 2014 season: Week 15

at Oklahoma 38, Oklahoma State 35:
Another Bedlam, another close game, another late-game win for the Sooners. This time it’s true freshman running back Joe Mixon who turns a swing pass into a late fourth-quarter touchdown, giving the Sooners a late lead and, for the second straight Bedlam game, Oklahoma linebacker Eric Striker seals the win with a big play on the Cowboys’ final drive. The Sooners win the Big 12, and their campaign to be included in the College Football Playoff begins immediately with Bob Stoops saying the Sooner “absolutely” deserve to be one of the four teams included during his postgame comments.

Final Big 12 standings

1. Oklahoma -- 11-1, 8-1
2. Baylor -- 10-2, 7-2
3. Kansas State -- 9-3, 7-2
4. Texas -- 8-4, 6-3
5. TCU -- 8-4, 5-4
6. Texas Tech -- 7-5, 4-5
7. West Virginia -- 5-7, 4-5
8. Oklahoma State -- 5-7, 3-6
9. Kansas -- 3-9, 1-8
10. Iowa State -- 2-10, 0-9
Followed FIVE posts later by this:

CaliforniaCowboy wrote:
KansasPosse wrote: If there was ever a year for this to be a possibility, it is this season. I don't believe it will happen, but some need to wrap their head around the fact it is in the realm of possibility though. We are incredibly young and inexperienced where anything can happen - good and bad.
seriously?

outside of his first season Gundy has never failed to produce a bowl team; regardless of personnel or issues or coach changes.

Why anybody would insist on spreading this stuff around is beyond me.
I have accepted that some folks are content to argue with themselves, and this is inarguable proof.

Which will I'm sure cause some to argue to the contrary.
junior just because I listed some information about OSU does not mean that I agree with the journalist.

as opposed to an OSU fan supporting and defending that position...

if  you can't discern the differences.. then please stop posting.

some people (you) simply have nothing better to do in their lives than to go around making stuff up about others (apparently in an attempt to place themselves in a more favorable light)

grow up a little... and develop better cognitive skills.
Cali, imo you need to read what KP said.  He flat out said he didn't think it would happen but that with our youth and inexperience that OSU fans need to at least understand that it is a possibility.  You immediately jump on him for spreading this stuff and go on about how Gundy has never failed to make a bowl game outside of his first year.  Again, he flat out said he thought we would make a bowl game.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 9:56 AM

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CJ4oSu wrote:
KansasPosse wrote: If there was ever a year for this to be a possibility, it is this season. I don't believe it will happen, but some need to wrap their head around the fact it is in the realm of possibility though. We are incredibly young and inexperienced where anything can happen - good and bad. I think we likely finish 4th or 5th in the conference and get a middling bowl game. That would be a success to me given our limitations this season.
I get what you're saying, but if we finish 5-7 we are probably looking at some serious injuries or other unforeseen events. I think Gundy and Co. have shown they can reload successfully and I think we will end up doing so again this year. I'm thinking 8-9 wins and the Alamo or Russell Athletic Bowl this year.
Oh, I do agree.  I just think we'll have games where the kids play out of their minds good, and then play a game like they just learned what a football was.  With youth, you get highs and lows.  I think it will be a roller coaster kind of season, but Gundy has built a good foundation and program; folks just can't dismiss the effect youth and inexperience will play.  Even really good players have learning curves - OSU is not immune from that fact.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 10:01 AM

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KansasPosse wrote:
CJ4oSu wrote:
KansasPosse wrote: If there was ever a year for this to be a possibility, it is this season. I don't believe it will happen, but some need to wrap their head around the fact it is in the realm of possibility though. We are incredibly young and inexperienced where anything can happen - good and bad. I think we likely finish 4th or 5th in the conference and get a middling bowl game. That would be a success to me given our limitations this season.
I get what you're saying, but if we finish 5-7 we are probably looking at some serious injuries or other unforeseen events. I think Gundy and Co. have shown they can reload successfully and I think we will end up doing so again this year. I'm thinking 8-9 wins and the Alamo or Russell Athletic Bowl this year.
Oh, I do agree.  I just think we'll have games where the kids play out of their minds good, and then play a game like they just learned what a football was.  With youth, you get highs and lows.  I think it will be a roller coaster kind of season, but Gundy has built a good foundation and program; folks just can't dismiss the effect youth and inexperience will play.  Even really good players have learning curves - OSU is not immune from that fact.
I think it will be similar to 2012, plenty of highs and lows.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 10:13 AM

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garywz wrote:
Cali, imo you need to read what KP said.  He flat out said he didn't think it would happen but that with our youth and inexperience that OSU fans need to at least understand that it is a possibility.  You immediately jump on him for spreading this stuff and go on about how Gundy has never failed to make a bowl game outside of his first year.  Again, he flat out said he thought we would make a bowl game.
whatever gary, if he does not even think that it will happen, and almost nobody does, then is it really a possibility, or just somebody trying to play off both sides so they can say I told you so, regardless of what happens?

I don't think it will happen either, but Chatmon is welcome to his opinion.   If anything, perhaps we/me are not being as generous with the capabilities of the other league teams.

I'm not all that concerned about our team - but with all due respect for Chatmon's position, I have not yet fully analyzed the other league teams.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 10:30 AM

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KansasPosse wrote:
CJ4oSu wrote:
KansasPosse wrote: If there was ever a year for this to be a possibility, it is this season. I don't believe it will happen, but some need to wrap their head around the fact it is in the realm of possibility though. We are incredibly young and inexperienced where anything can happen - good and bad. I think we likely finish 4th or 5th in the conference and get a middling bowl game. That would be a success to me given our limitations this season.
I get what you're saying, but if we finish 5-7 we are probably looking at some serious injuries or other unforeseen events. I think Gundy and Co. have shown they can reload successfully and I think we will end up doing so again this year. I'm thinking 8-9 wins and the Alamo or Russell Athletic Bowl this year.
Oh, I do agree.  I just think we'll have games where the kids play out of their minds good, and then play a game like they just learned what a football was.  With youth, you get highs and lows.  I think it will be a roller coaster kind of season, but Gundy has built a good foundation and program; folks just can't dismiss the effect youth and inexperience will play.  Even really good players have learning curves - OSU is not immune from that fact.


Yep.   That's it.

Also, with our lack of depth at LB, we could have injuries that easily doom us to 5-7.  

The injury game will be more of an issue this year than usual.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 11:08 AM

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Yes he sees us as a 5-7 team, yet we go toe to toe with OU in Norman.  Even his analysis makes no sense. 

OU has the best returning players so yeah they should be the favorite.
BU brings back a lot, and they have a successful returning QB so right behind OU and not a reach to pick them to win the league.
KSU It's Bill Snyder, but they have nothing returning that makes you want to put them too far up the list.  By no means are they dropping down with KU and ISU, but there were more losses and more questions about this team than a KSU team in a while. 
UT is a real mystery.  We thought MB was just a poor coach, but at the draft last year we found out he couldn't recruit.  UT is really down in talent, and while Strong will make a difference I don't see this team making as many strides forward as some are expecting.  Remember the media kept telling us last year they had so much talent that they were going to start beating everyone at any moment.  They had a nice run against the middle and bottom, then ti all fell apart when they had to play us and BU.
TCU how many years are they going to tout this team, and then we see them looking totally out of place in most of their conference games?  They might win 6.
WVU I'm not sure this team is moving up.

We had some losses, but not as much as others in the league.  We have a lot of talent on hand, more than probably everyone but OU and BU.  We like many others are going to have a new starter, but ours has some gt under his belt.  I'd find it hard to push for us winning the league, but I'd say we'll be closer to 1st than 10th.  3rd would be my guess at this point, but if we avoid a 3rd loss to BU, and take it OU in Norman we can win it.

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