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How did we ever lose to the Huskies?

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Posted: 11/17/2012 8:43 PM

How did we ever lose to the Huskies? 


Or the Domers?
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Posted: 11/17/2012 8:44 PM

Re: How did we ever lose to the Huskies? 


NUNES
 "We got drunk on the Purple Kool-Aid again this year......the hangover is a mother."
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Posted: 11/17/2012 8:46 PM

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Agreed.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 8:47 PM

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Once I hear you pulled Nunes, I posted on the Duck Board, it was interesting...  But damn  Both D's Stepped up...   Maybe this means Chip comes back.  Means we win afterall!!
jupardell wrote: Agreed.
 "We got drunk on the Purple Kool-Aid again this year......the hangover is a mother."
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Posted: 11/17/2012 8:49 PM

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Your coaching staff blew your chances for a National Championship game by giving Nunes the job when it is obvious the other kid is better.

Now Stanford has to beat UCLA twice to get to the Rose Bowl. Doesn't seem fair but that is what these crappy Championship games have done.

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Posted: 11/17/2012 9:16 PM

UCLA can pick their championship game opponent 


If the Bruins beat Stanford, they probably get to play Oregon at Autzen again.  Or they play "conservatively" and play at Stanford for the Roses.  Interesting choice.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 9:18 PM

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Hogan wasn't ready at the start of the season. If Nunes hadn't lost, Hogan wouldn't have gotten a chance.


Tough choice, but we are suddenly 2 games against UCLA away from playing in the Rose Bowl.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 9:32 PM

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It wasn't all Nunes. Montgomery dropped at least 2 deep passes that surely would have gone for TDs or at least set up field goals. But what's done is done, and I am glad the receivers mainly found surer hands tonight.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 10:58 PM

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Hogan wasn't ready, although there was a lot of argument for giving Nottingham a chance when it was pretty clear that Nunes wasn't going to build on the USC victory. Nothing we can do about it now. We just hope the coaching staff learns from the losses.
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Posted: 11/17/2012 11:19 PM

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Yep. I was definitely calling for Nottingham but I think the coaching staff has done a very good job the last few games.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 5:32 AM

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It wasn't just Nunes.

In both the Husky and the Domer games the defense had a chance to win the game for us if they got the requisite stops in the 4th quarter.

In those games they couldn't. Last night they did.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 7:20 AM

Not Mora's style 


UCLA will give Stanford it's best effort, win or lose.

Congratulations on a great win for the Cardinal!  I've never seen such a quick defensive front 7 with size and smarts.  We will have our hands full for sure.

See you guys next Week
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Posted: 11/18/2012 7:41 AM

Re: How did we ever lose to the Huskies? NUNES 


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Posted: 11/18/2012 8:49 AM

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I misspoke about Nunes and didn't mean to imply that the losses were solely his fault, but I still don't think a coach would be able to change QBs on an undefeated team.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 9:21 AM

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I don't believe any team in the country this season gave a better defensive effort than what Stanford performed last night.

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Posted: 11/18/2012 9:22 AM

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Your QB couldn't hit the barn door in Seattle otherwise Stanford could easily have one loss or be undefeated.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 9:27 AM

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It was a tough call. What likely complicated matters was the fact Nunes was pivotal in the win over USC. In fact, the opening game struggle against San Jose State doesn't look so bad when you consider the strong season the Spartans are having. However, it was obvious the Stanford offense was out of sync with Nunes at QB, and it peforms much better with a mobile player at the position.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 10:40 AM

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jupardell wrote: It was a tough call. What likely complicated matters was the fact Nunes was pivotal in the win over USC. In fact, the opening game struggle against San Jose State doesn't look so bad when you consider the strong season the Spartans are having. However, it was obvious the Stanford offense was out of sync with Nunes at QB, and it peforms much better with a mobile player at the position.

jupardell: face it - EVERY team is better with 'a mobile player at the position' (all other things being equal). Regardless - you can be a good/effective qb even if your not overly mobile, but if you aren't mobile - then you have to have the ability to make quick reads and deliver the ball on time and at least move around in the pocket. Nunes has shown that he can move around a bit and even scramble A BIT, but he doesn't make quick reads and he doesn't consistently deliver balls downfield accurately and on time - and a lot of that has to do with the fact that he seemingly loses the ability to throw accurately and/or on time as soon as he has to move at all in the pocket. Barkley is not mobile - but he slides in the pocket and resets and still delivers an accurate ball. How many times did you hear Shaw make excuses about Nunes' mechanics - saying he could make those throws in practice (when he's wearing the 'no contact' jersey etc.).  You saw numerous times in the past couple of games how Hogan is able to make a throw even after he is forced to move - it may not be pretty, but it gets there.

Look - Hogan is no Andrew Luck - who was nearly always 'in balance' - had/has the classic throwing motion, etc. - but the difference between Nunes and Hogan is NIGHT and DAY.  Hell - Nottingham looked consistently better in pre-season scrimmages.  Shaw simply made the WRONG call on the QB. He only made the move after Nunes imploded and even then Shaw was surprised at how well Hogan played and how much better the offense was under his direction than it was with Nunes at the helm.

Nunes is what Nunes is - he did the best he could do and pulled out the AZ and 'SC wins for the Cardinal. This is all on Shaw. It was up to Shaw to see what others were seeing EVEN before the season started - and without the benefit of watching practices. Nunes is simply OK - not good enough to get you difficult wins.  We may never know about Nottingham's potential - but it seems to me that (like Hogan) he has more upside than Nunes. Nunes was simply never going to get you to the top and against really good teams - you need that something extra - especially at QB. eek
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Posted: 11/18/2012 11:13 AM

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That's understandable. Coach Shaw repeatedly stated Nunes was selected because his understanding of the playbook was above the other QB competitors. However, that doesn't always translate into success. Just because a person spends eons of time studying for their exams doesn't guarantee perfect marks when they take the actual tests.
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Posted: 11/18/2012 11:33 AM

You played them in Seattle 


It may not translate into success but it probably gives him a better chance than the guy that didn't.

Washington just plays better at home due to their youth and emotion. If Stanford played Washington at home this year, Stanford wins the game.

You WR's had as much to do with Nunes game that day anyhow, he gave them some passes to make a play on and they didn't. He couldn't catch it for them too.
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