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Re: WBB 2012-13: (8-9, 0-5) L to Virginia 59-78

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Posted: 1/14/2013 4:26 PM

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rexpack71 wrote: Oh ok. Thanks. I am sure all of us NCSU WBB fans will get one with Yow in charge.
Any names you'd want out there?
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Posted: 1/14/2013 4:28 PM

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fvpackman1 wrote: Without winning the ACCT which would get us in the NCAA,Harper is gone....she has known it since before the season started.....

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It may have been you who's talked about the NCSU AD budget in the past, any insights on what sort of a hit it would take for a buyout or to get another coach?
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Posted: 1/14/2013 4:31 PM

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wolfer79 wrote:
loneycafe wrote: According to last season's data, WBB outdraws gymnastics on average, but it's close:
WBB 2011-12 season: ~2,306 (from NCAA)
Gymnastics: 2012 season: ~2,059 (from Gym Info; seven home meets last season)

If you take away the Hoops for Hope game, the edge might go to gymnastics. But I also think if WBB performed better, it's attendance would jump pretty remarkably. Perhaps that's wishful thinking. 
ibmotu wrote:
wolfer79 wrote:
ibmotu wrote: IWBB is the third most attended sport at a university and is on TV more than any other sport besides MBB and Football. 
I have heard at NC State that gymnastics has higher attendance than any sport other than football and men's basketball.
That would be unusual if true, but aren't there only 3 or 4 home meets?  Kind of different in that regard.
thank you
I just did not care enough to look it up
It would be interesting to subtract Hoops4Hope and see what average attendance is then, but it is a game so it counts.
Thats very good for Gymnastics, but as I said before with only a handful of meets, its hard to compare.  Duke draws over 5,300 a game and I think with a winning program you guys could average 4,000 easy.  The increase in attendence (+ parking and concessions) could help offset a higher paid coach.  Assuming about $20 per person per game, that means you are bringing in about $690,000 for a 15 game season.  If a new coach could help raise attendence to 4,000, that would be $1,200,000---$510,000 more, which would more than offset paying a higher salary for a better coach.
Basically, get a better coach and get some butts in the seats and let DY handle the money.
If Duke can draw 5,300 with the holes right next door, then State should be able to as well.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 4:38 PM

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ibmotu wrote: Thats very good for Gymnastics, but as I said before with only a handful of meets, its hard to compare.  Duke draws over 5,300 a game and I think with a winning program you guys could average 4,000 easy.  The increase in attendence (+ parking and concessions) could help offset a higher paid coach.  Assuming about $20 per person per game, that means you are bringing in about $690,000 for a 15 game season.  If a new coach could help raise attendence to 4,000, that would be $1,200,000---$510,000 more, which would more than offset paying a higher salary for a better coach.
Basically, get a better coach and get some butts in the seats and let DY handle the money.
If Duke can draw 5,300 with the holes right next door, then State should be able to as well.
any idea about who that could be? Doubling the attendance to WBB games @ State would be some feat! UNC's had a fairly strong program for years & aside from maybe Duke or NCSU games, I haven't seen they draw that well.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 4:45 PM

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BlackRazor wrote:
ibmotu wrote: Thats very good for Gymnastics, but as I said before with only a handful of meets, its hard to compare.  Duke draws over 5,300 a game and I think with a winning program you guys could average 4,000 easy.  The increase in attendence (+ parking and concessions) could help offset a higher paid coach.  Assuming about $20 per person per game, that means you are bringing in about $690,000 for a 15 game season.  If a new coach could help raise attendence to 4,000, that would be $1,200,000---$510,000 more, which would more than offset paying a higher salary for a better coach.
Basically, get a better coach and get some butts in the seats and let DY handle the money.
If Duke can draw 5,300 with the holes right next door, then State should be able to as well.
any idea about who that could be? Doubling the attendance to WBB games @ State would be some feat! UNC's had a fairly strong program for years & aside from maybe Duke or NCSU games, I haven't seen they draw that well.
Its hard to say who would come to State, but if it were me, I would already be feeling out Coach G to see if there is any interestI'm sure she will also talk to Brenda Frese up at MD just to see if she wants to stay in the ACC.  Try to get a proven HC at a level level, and then go to the assts at the top schools.  Katie Meier at Miami might be worth pursuing as well (former Dukie).  One of my personal favorites is Jenn Rizzotti at Hartford.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 4:46 PM

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BlackRazor wrote:
rexpack71 wrote: No need to feel sorry for me. I thought for sure Harper would do well here. I was wrong. I also have a lot of sympathy for Marissa. She deserved more. It is difficult to see Kellie go through this (do think she is a good person) but I am sure she will land on her feet somewhere and have another opportunity to prove herself.

The program comes first. This can not be allowed to go on.
you're not alone there, she looked like a sure thing @ the time.
Great post rexpack. Agree 100%.
Program first.

I am with both of you though, at the time the hire seemed excellent. She had done well at Western Carolina. She was a young up and comer. She was famous within the womens BB community due to her UT association and the film on her injury comeback as a player.

Just goes to show, that in some ways coach hiring is still partly crap-shoot. You just can't know.

 


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Posted: 1/14/2013 4:52 PM

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ibmotu wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
ibmotu wrote: Thats very good for Gymnastics, but as I said before with only a handful of meets, its hard to compare.  Duke draws over 5,300 a game and I think with a winning program you guys could average 4,000 easy.  The increase in attendence (+ parking and concessions) could help offset a higher paid coach.  Assuming about $20 per person per game, that means you are bringing in about $690,000 for a 15 game season.  If a new coach could help raise attendence to 4,000, that would be $1,200,000---$510,000 more, which would more than offset paying a higher salary for a better coach.
Basically, get a better coach and get some butts in the seats and let DY handle the money.
If Duke can draw 5,300 with the holes right next door, then State should be able to as well.
any idea about who that could be? Doubling the attendance to WBB games @ State would be some feat! UNC's had a fairly strong program for years & aside from maybe Duke or NCSU games, I haven't seen they draw that well.
Its hard to say who would come to State, but if it were me, I would already be feeling out Coach G to see if there is any interestI'm sure she will also talk to Brenda Frese up at MD just to see if she wants to stay in the ACC.  Try to get a proven HC at a level level, and then go to the assts at the top schools.  Katie Meier at Miami might be worth pursuing as well (former Dukie).  One of my personal favorites is Jenn Rizzotti at Hartford.
Thanks, interesting options there.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 4:53 PM

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wolfchicEE wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
rexpack71 wrote: No need to feel sorry for me. I thought for sure Harper would do well here. I was wrong. I also have a lot of sympathy for Marissa. She deserved more. It is difficult to see Kellie go through this (do think she is a good person) but I am sure she will land on her feet somewhere and have another opportunity to prove herself.

The program comes first. This can not be allowed to go on.
you're not alone there, she looked like a sure thing @ the time.
Great post rexpack. Agree 100%.
Program first.

I am with both of you though, at the time the hire seemed excellent. She had done well at Western Carolina. She was a young up and comer. She was famous within the womens BB community due to her UT association and the film on her injury comeback as a player.

Just goes to show, that in some ways coach hiring is still partly crap-shoot. You just can't know.
Is that ever the truth!
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Posted: 1/14/2013 4:55 PM

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BlackRazor wrote:
ibmotu wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
ibmotu wrote: Thats very good for Gymnastics, but as I said before with only a handful of meets, its hard to compare.  Duke draws over 5,300 a game and I think with a winning program you guys could average 4,000 easy.  The increase in attendence (+ parking and concessions) could help offset a higher paid coach.  Assuming about $20 per person per game, that means you are bringing in about $690,000 for a 15 game season.  If a new coach could help raise attendence to 4,000, that would be $1,200,000---$510,000 more, which would more than offset paying a higher salary for a better coach.
Basically, get a better coach and get some butts in the seats and let DY handle the money.
If Duke can draw 5,300 with the holes right next door, then State should be able to as well.
any idea about who that could be? Doubling the attendance to WBB games @ State would be some feat! UNC's had a fairly strong program for years & aside from maybe Duke or NCSU games, I haven't seen they draw that well.
Its hard to say who would come to State, but if it were me, I would already be feeling out Coach G to see if there is any interestI'm sure she will also talk to Brenda Frese up at MD just to see if she wants to stay in the ACC.  Try to get a proven HC at a level level, and then go to the assts at the top schools.  Katie Meier at Miami might be worth pursuing as well (former Dukie).  One of my personal favorites is Jenn Rizzotti at Hartford.
Thanks, interesting options there.
Here is a Wiki link to Rizzotti.  DY--You gotta make the call if the big names turn you down. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Rizzotti
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Posted: 1/14/2013 4:58 PM

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BlackRazor wrote:
It may have been you who's talked about the NCSU AD budget in the past, any insights on what sort of a hit it would take for a buyout or to get another coach?

Her buyout would be 247k...have no idea what a new coach will cost.....
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Posted: 1/14/2013 5:02 PM

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Maybe also the buy-out could be offset by her getting hired somewhere else?

 


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Posted: 1/14/2013 5:12 PM

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Women's hoops does not show up on my give a damn radar.  But, I want any program with NC State attached to it to do well.  I had no idea we had fallen this far.  Unless Harper starts coaching games in a bikini, she needs to go.  I just do not want the other sports to be penalized financially for any type of buyout.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 5:25 PM

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fvpackman1 wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
It may have been you who's talked about the NCSU AD budget in the past, any insights on what sort of a hit it would take for a buyout or to get another coach?

Her buyout would be 247k...have no idea what a new coach will cost.....
2011 numbers
Hatchell $400,000
Firese $775,000
Georgia tech $363,000

fall 2011
Hatchell's base salary will be $360,000 with supplemental compensation of between $70,000 and $130,000 annually and an expense allowance of $40,000.

more fall 2011
The third highest salary went to University of Maryland’s head women’s basketball coach, Brenda Frese. She was paid $957,523 Coleman - Clemson $181,500


Florida State - $300,000

so, established winning D1 coach would probably be in $250,000-$500,000

FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 1/14/2013 5:31 PM

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wolfer79 wrote:
fvpackman1 wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
It may have been you who's talked about the NCSU AD budget in the past, any insights on what sort of a hit it would take for a buyout or to get another coach?

Her buyout would be 247k...have no idea what a new coach will cost.....
2011 numbers
Hatchell $400,000
Firese $775,000
Georgia tech $363,000

fall 2011
Hatchell's base salary will be $360,000 with supplemental compensation of between $70,000 and $130,000 annually and an expense allowance of $40,000.

more fall 2011
The third highest salary went to University of Maryland’s head women’s basketball coach, Brenda Frese. She was paid $957,523 Coleman - Clemson $181,500


Florida State - $300,000

so, established winning D1 coach would probably be in $250,000-$500,000
And we are paying an established losing head coach $247,000. The difference between winning and losing may not be that great.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 5:32 PM

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seniorwolf60 wrote:
wolfer79 wrote:
fvpackman1 wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
It may have been you who's talked about the NCSU AD budget in the past, any insights on what sort of a hit it would take for a buyout or to get another coach?

Her buyout would be 247k...have no idea what a new coach will cost.....
2011 numbers
Hatchell $400,000
Firese $775,000
Georgia tech $363,000

fall 2011
Hatchell's base salary will be $360,000 with supplemental compensation of between $70,000 and $130,000 annually and an expense allowance of $40,000.

more fall 2011
The third highest salary went to University of Maryland’s head women’s basketball coach, Brenda Frese. She was paid $957,523 Coleman - Clemson $181,500


Florida State - $300,000

so, established winning D1 coach would probably be in $250,000-$500,000
And we are paying an established losing head coach $247,000. The difference between winning and losing may not be that great.
add in another $85,000-$125,000 to replace her assistant coach husband

FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 1/14/2013 6:13 PM

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ibmotu wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
ibmotu wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
ibmotu wrote: Thats very good for Gymnastics, but as I said before with only a handful of meets, its hard to compare.  Duke draws over 5,300 a game and I think with a winning program you guys could average 4,000 easy.  The increase in attendence (+ parking and concessions) could help offset a higher paid coach.  Assuming about $20 per person per game, that means you are bringing in about $690,000 for a 15 game season.  If a new coach could help raise attendence to 4,000, that would be $1,200,000---$510,000 more, which would more than offset paying a higher salary for a better coach.
Basically, get a better coach and get some butts in the seats and let DY handle the money.
If Duke can draw 5,300 with the holes right next door, then State should be able to as well.
any idea about who that could be? Doubling the attendance to WBB games @ State would be some feat! UNC's had a fairly strong program for years & aside from maybe Duke or NCSU games, I haven't seen they draw that well.
Its hard to say who would come to State, but if it were me, I would already be feeling out Coach G to see if there is any interestI'm sure she will also talk to Brenda Frese up at MD just to see if she wants to stay in the ACC.  Try to get a proven HC at a level level, and then go to the assts at the top schools.  Katie Meier at Miami might be worth pursuing as well (former Dukie).  One of my personal favorites is Jenn Rizzotti at Hartford.
Thanks, interesting options there.
Here is a Wiki link to Rizzotti.  DY--You gotta make the call if the big names turn you down. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Rizzotti
I would prefer not to hire anyone considered a strong candidate for Geno's replacement. We have been down that road before. I want someone who considers this a destination job. I think it is one.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 6:19 PM

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No.

Not at this point at least. And I hate to say that, because I want this program to succeed, but another buyout would be tough on the department. 
BlackRazor wrote: Thanks wolfer!

Wow, for those who want a top notch WBB program again, you want DY to invest that much in a new coach?

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Posted: 1/14/2013 6:25 PM

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rexpack71 wrote:
ibmotu wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
ibmotu wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
ibmotu wrote: Thats very good for Gymnastics, but as I said before with only a handful of meets, its hard to compare.  Duke draws over 5,300 a game and I think with a winning program you guys could average 4,000 easy.  The increase in attendence (+ parking and concessions) could help offset a higher paid coach.  Assuming about $20 per person per game, that means you are bringing in about $690,000 for a 15 game season.  If a new coach could help raise attendence to 4,000, that would be $1,200,000---$510,000 more, which would more than offset paying a higher salary for a better coach.
Basically, get a better coach and get some butts in the seats and let DY handle the money.
If Duke can draw 5,300 with the holes right next door, then State should be able to as well.
any idea about who that could be? Doubling the attendance to WBB games @ State would be some feat! UNC's had a fairly strong program for years & aside from maybe Duke or NCSU games, I haven't seen they draw that well.
Its hard to say who would come to State, but if it were me, I would already be feeling out Coach G to see if there is any interestI'm sure she will also talk to Brenda Frese up at MD just to see if she wants to stay in the ACC.  Try to get a proven HC at a level level, and then go to the assts at the top schools.  Katie Meier at Miami might be worth pursuing as well (former Dukie).  One of my personal favorites is Jenn Rizzotti at Hartford.
Thanks, interesting options there.
Here is a Wiki link to Rizzotti.  DY--You gotta make the call if the big names turn you down. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Rizzotti
I would prefer not to hire anyone considered a strong candidate for Geno's replacement. We have been down that road before. I want someone who considers this a destination job. I think it is one.
Geno's replacement will come from his bench.  I don' t think it will be Rizzotti.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 6:36 PM

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UCONN fans seem to think she is a top candidate. It is also the reason I am against Shea Ralph.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 6:44 PM

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BlackRazor wrote:
rexpack71 wrote: No need to feel sorry for me. I thought for sure Harper would do well here. I was wrong. I also have a lot of sympathy for Marissa. She deserved more. It is difficult to see Kellie go through this (do think she is a good person) but I am sure she will land on her feet somewhere and have another opportunity to prove herself.

The program comes first. This can not be allowed to go on.
you're not alone there, she looked like a sure thing @ the time.
Some people thought she looked like a great prospect- others were not so sure.  Maybe even a majority thought she was the right hire, but I'm sure that if you took a poll now, you woulddn't find a majority who admitted to supporting her.  We're all really good at hind-sight.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 7:24 PM

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ibmotu wrote: I can't see any way DY lets Kellie stay another year.  Things have got to get turned around quickly if they are going to get back to the top half of the conference.  WBB is the third most attended sport at a university and is on TV more than any other sport besides MBB and Football.  Whether you like it or not it is the premiere Women's sport at most Universities and they do represent NCSU.  DY has got to put more money into WBB and that starts with a new Head Coach.
The person I feel the most sorry for--even more than Rexpack--is Kastanek.  The two Coaches that recruited her--Yow and Glance are gone, the Coach she played for for four years will be gone and she also doesn't have any fellow seniors in her class.  She has given a lot to NCSU and didn't get much back in return--besides a degree hopefully.
I read she (Marissa Kastanek) has a 4.0 GPA and is on track to graduate with a major in psychology with minors in coaching, Spanish, and sport science.  A very impressive young lady we should all be very proud of.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 8:59 PM

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I hope whoever is coach next year will make Marissa a graduate assistant next year if she is interested.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 9:06 PM

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loneycafe wrote: According to last season's data, WBB outdraws gymnastics on average, but it's close:
WBB 2011-12 season: ~2,306 (from NCAA)
Gymnastics: 2012 season: ~2,059 (from Gym Info; seven home meets last season)

If you take away the Hoops for Hope game, the edge might go to gymnastics. But I also think if WBB performed better, it's attendance would jump pretty remarkably. Perhaps that's wishful thinking. 
ibmotu wrote:
wolfer79 wrote:
ibmotu wrote: IWBB is the third most attended sport at a university and is on TV more than any other sport besides MBB and Football. 
I have heard at NC State that gymnastics has higher attendance than any sport other than football and men's basketball.
That would be unusual if true, but aren't there only 3 or 4 home meets?  Kind of different in that regard.
I agree with you. I think we would see a dramatic increase in attendance if we had a nationally relevant program.

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Posted: 1/14/2013 11:39 PM

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rexpack71 wrote:
loneycafe wrote: According to last season's data, WBB outdraws gymnastics on average, but it's close:
WBB 2011-12 season: ~2,306 (from NCAA)
Gymnastics: 2012 season: ~2,059 (from Gym Info; seven home meets last season)

If you take away the Hoops for Hope game, the edge might go to gymnastics. But I also think if WBB performed better, it's attendance would jump pretty remarkably. Perhaps that's wishful thinking. 
ibmotu wrote:
wolfer79 wrote:
ibmotu wrote: IWBB is the third most attended sport at a university and is on TV more than any other sport besides MBB and Football. 
I have heard at NC State that gymnastics has higher attendance than any sport other than football and men's basketball.
That would be unusual if true, but aren't there only 3 or 4 home meets?  Kind of different in that regard.
I agree with you. I think we would see a dramatic increase in attendance if we had a nationally relevant program.
I dunno. When NCState was one of the elite powers in women's basketball, attendance was still in the 2000-3000 range, on average.


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Posted: 1/15/2013 1:26 AM

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Attendance has taken a bit of a dive this year too I think; while the core crowd is still at every game, I thought the crowd at the uncch game was noticeably smaller than what we usually have for that game....I think everyone knew the outcome and just didnt want to witness it.

Semi OT, but ran across this on YouTube: State vs Maryland in Reynolds in 1990. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=749rv2BcTi0
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Posted: 1/15/2013 3:49 AM

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www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/p...attendance.html

2000
#19 @ 3,788 / game
2001
#32 @ 3,147 / game
2002
#34 @ 2,917 / game
2003
#43 @ 2,591 / game
2004
#56 @ 2,026 / game
2005
#40 @ 2,801 / game
2006
#43 @ 2,554 / game
2007
#44 @ 2616 / game
2008
outside of top 50. Less than 2,540 / game
2009
outside of top 50. Less than 2,475 / game
2010
outside of top 50. Less than 2,698 / game
2011
outside of top 50 @ 2,183 / game
2012
Outside of top 50 @ 2,306 / game

If we win, folks will come. Duke, Carolina, Maryland all draw VERY well when they are among the top teams.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 4:00 AM

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OMG!! I was at that game! And I had forgotten about Nicole Lehman and what a great shooter she was. Saw plenty of Krista Kilburn, too, who always scrapped and clawed for the red and white. Also a great shot of Sharon Manning congratulating Stinson after the game. Did ya notice how fast Kay Yow moved to shake hands with the Maryland team? She was bookin'!

Those highlights reminded me why Andrea Stinson was one of my favorite players ever for the Wolfpack Women.

My memory is a bit hazy now...but where was Rhonda Mapp? Didn't see any of her.


Life is under no obligation to give us what we expect. -- Margaret Mitchell.

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LETTERL wrote: OMG!! I was at that game! And I had forgotten about Nicole Lehman and what a great shooter she was. Saw plenty of Krista Kilburn, too, who always scrapped and clawed for the red and white. Also a great shot of Sharon Manning congratulating Stinson after the game. Did ya notice how fast Kay Yow moved to shake hands with the Maryland team? She was bookin'!

Those highlights reminded me why Andrea Stinson was one of my favorite players ever for the Wolfpack Women.

My memory is a bit hazy now...but where was Rhonda Mapp? Didn't see any of her.
Rhonda Mapp missed a season during her NC State career. I never heard an official reason.

FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 1/15/2013 8:28 AM

Re: WBB 2012-13: (8-9, 0-5) L to Virginia 59-78 



endguy wrote: Attendance has taken a bit of a dive this year too I think; while the core crowd is still at every game, I thought the crowd at the uncch game was noticeably smaller than what we usually have for that game....I think everyone knew the outcome and just didnt want to witness it.

Semi OT, but ran across this on YouTube: State vs Maryland in Reynolds in 1990. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=749rv2BcTi0
Wow. What a great walk down memory lane. I was at that game, too, LETTERL. And I'll never forget the crowd for the triple OT against Virginia. There were some great crowds for those games. I truly believe it can happen again with the right coach. 

I agree with Rexpack in regards to comments about Jen Rizzotti. There was a recent article about her in the Hartford, and it was pretty clear she's got her eyes on UConn. She turned down BC after last season.

There's no reason for NC State not to be considered a destination job, and I would hope our next coach sees it that way, too.

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Posted: 1/15/2013 8:54 AM

RE: WBB 2012-13: (8-9, 0-5) 1/17 @ Maryland, 8:30, RSN TV 


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www.technicianonline.com/sport...19bb30f31a.html

Despite the disappointment, there have been several positives for State this season. These bright spots have served as the silver lining around the cloud, giving the team a measure of hope as they move forward.

One of these bright spots has been junior forward Kody Burke.

FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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