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Re: Women's Soccer (5-13, 0-9) 10/25 unc-ch

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Posted: 10/25/2012 8:51 PM

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And as soon as I type that, Hopkins may have made a mistake. UNC up 2-1, about 11 left.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 8:54 PM

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And UNC makes it 3-1, 7 left.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 8:55 PM

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Philawolf wrote: 2-1 UNC
Final?  Crap.  I don't know much about soccer strategy or gameplay, but playing the #8 team in the country this tough is something to be proud of.  I know they probably don't feel that way and I know I've taken part in the talk about Springthorpe, but I can't imagine playing this game, knowing it's your last for the season with the rumors that are sure to be swirling around those more informed than I am.  Good for them and I wish them nothing but good and luck down the line.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 8:56 PM

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No, that's not the final. It's 3-1 with about 5 minutes left.
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Philawolf wrote: 2-1 UNC
Final?  Crap.  I don't know much about soccer strategy or gameplay, but playing the #8 team in the country this tough is something to be proud of.  I know they probably don't feel that way and I know I've taken part in the talk about Springthorpe, but I can't imagine playing this game, knowing it's your last for the season with the rumors that are sure to be swirling around those more informed than I am.  Good for them and I wish them nothing but good and luck down the line.

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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:00 PM

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And it's 4-1 UNC. 2 minutes left.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:02 PM

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loneycafe wrote:
No, that's not the final. It's 3-1 with about 5 minutes left.
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Philawolf wrote: 2-1 UNC
Final?  Crap.  I don't know much about soccer strategy or gameplay, but playing the #8 team in the country this tough is something to be proud of.  I know they probably don't feel that way and I know I've taken part in the talk about Springthorpe, but I can't imagine playing this game, knowing it's your last for the season with the rumors that are sure to be swirling around those more informed than I am.  Good for them and I wish them nothing but good and luck down the line.

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Well...hell.  So it appears they can hang for about 60-65 of the 90 minutes.  UNC is no slouch and by the overall series record, it would be a small feat to even tie them.  As before, I wish the players well, but at the same time, I would be stunned if a move wasn't made based on how the season was played out after the wins at Texas and LSU.

ETA:  Yeah, that looks like some Curry Math on my part, they can hang for about 70-75 minutes after re-reading previous posts.

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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:05 PM

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fire someone
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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:08 PM

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that is a **** ton of goals in a short period of time. was your goalie yanked or sumthin?
Craig may not say much, but when it comes to giving people the middle finger, he's a real expert.

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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:09 PM

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And that's game. 4-1 final. State finishes season at 5-14, 0-10. State did well enough for 70 minutes. UNC used subs strategically, and Pack paid for it in the last part of the game. The talent gap caught up with them.

State gave a good effort, like they've done all season. Thanks, ladies. A very, very tough league. One of the nationally-ranked teams in the ACC won't even make the ACC tourney, though nine teams should get in the NCAAs.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:12 PM

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loneycafe wrote:
State gave a good effort, like they've done all season. Thanks, ladies.
DDB

"<wralsports> we cover unc/state the same way".
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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:14 PM

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No. UNC subbed smartly, and State's defense was worn down. State's goalie, Hopkins, made a questionable decision that UNC took advantage of to go up 2-1. From there on out, State's defense was mostly nonexistent. UNC's offense just outmatched them and were much faster to the ball.

Hopkins had some great, great saves earlier in the match. It could have been even worse. UNC was also playing for a top 4 seed in the ACC tourney to have it's opening match at home. They needed to win by at least three to do that to get three points. They had something to play for, too, and they did it. (According to the announcers anyway)

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that is a **** ton of goals in a short period of time. was your goalie yanked or sumthin?

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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:15 PM

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^ Loney, I know it may be too early to tell or you may not want to speculate, but do you expect a move to be made or is the ACC tough enough that 4 years isn't enough in anyones world?  I trust your opinion on the matter since I'm not a huge fan of soccer, but I still want them to be more successful than they have been.  The key to me is the 0-10 in ACC play.  Not even a tie was managed, or did they just play the wrong 10 teams this year?

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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:34 PM

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I have heard from a family of one of the players that the coach already knows he will not be back.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:35 PM

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NCAA RPI 10/22/2012

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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:37 PM

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Once upon a time, in a land far, far away...I attended the national championship game between UNC and NCState.


Life is under no obligation to give us what we expect. -- Margaret Mitchell.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:41 PM

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We need to dump some sports.  I think we could get better results out a women's rowing team than a soccer or vollyball team.
I like the athletic type. 
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Posted: 10/25/2012 9:57 PM

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Thanks to RWP and Remote.  Interesting to see how it all plays out and who DY has in mind.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 10:02 PM

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lumberpack3 wrote: We need to dump some sports.  I think we could get better results out a women's rowing team than a soccer or vollyball team.
Have you seen our Volleyball team's record this year? 

The issue with lack of success is not with the sport, its with the coaches.  I expect a new coach for Women's Soccer to be announced in about 6 weeks.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 10:37 PM

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Philawolf wrote:
lumberpack3 wrote: We need to dump some sports.  I think we could get better results out a women's rowing team than a soccer or vollyball team.
Have you seen our Volleyball team's record this year? 

The issue with lack of success is not with the sport, its with the coaches.  I expect a new coach for Women's Soccer to be announced in about 6 weeks.
Is that just a general timeline or do you have additional info. in your back pocket?
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Posted: 10/25/2012 11:17 PM

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^ Just a general timeline, no inside info.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 12:08 AM

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Women's soccer coach will be replaced shortly...based upon rumor from someone close to multiple players.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 1:02 AM

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Philawolf wrote:
lumberpack3 wrote: We need to dump some sports.  I think we could get better results out a women's rowing team than a soccer or vollyball team.
Have you seen our Volleyball team's record this year? 

The issue with lack of success is not with the sport, its with the coaches.  I expect a new coach for Women's Soccer to be announced in about 6 weeks.
Exactly.  We're flat tearing it up in volleyball this year.  Bunn took a moribund program and has the girls playing REALLY well.

There's no reason the same thing can't happen in soccer.  We just need to make the right hire.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 6:15 AM

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lumberpack3 wrote: We need to dump some sports.  I think we could get better results out a women's rowing team than a soccer or vollyball team.
since NC State is 55% male
the elimination of any women's sports might require the elimination of men's sports also

rowing allows 20 scholarships
soccer allows 12


NC State currently has NCAA teams in these sports (number of scholarships)
http://www.wolfpackclub.com/Vi...p;ATCLID=714149

edit: all scholarship numbers are the maximum allowed by NCAA and NC State awards the maximum scholarships allowed for all current sports.

Men - 161.17 scholarships awarded (58.8%)
Baseball 11.78
Basketball 13
Cross Country/Track 12.69
Football 85
Golf 4.5
Soccer 9.9
Swimming & Diving 9.9
Tennis 4.5
Wrestling 9.9

Women - 109 scholarships (39.8 %)
Basketball 15
Cross Country/Track 18
Golf 6
Gymnastics 12
Softball 12
Soccer 12
Swimming & Diving 14
Tennis 8
Volleyball 12

Co-ed - 3.6 scholarships (1.3 %)
Rifle 3.6

http://www2.acs.ncsu.edu/UPA/fastfacts/quick.htm
% female enrollment
fall 2005 43.5%
fall 2006 44.1%
fall 2007 44.2%
fall 2008 44.2%
fall 2009 44.5%
fall 2010 44.5%
fall 2011 44.1%

FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 10/26/2012 8:46 AM

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wolfpack95 wrote: Women's soccer coach will be replaced shortly...based upon rumor from someone close to multiple players.

would not be surprised at all.  Springthorpe was Lee's last hire wasn't he?
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Posted: 10/26/2012 8:51 AM

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Juardis wrote:
wolfpack95 wrote: Women's soccer coach will be replaced shortly...based upon rumor from someone close to multiple players.

would not be surprised at all.  Springthorpe was Lee's last hire wasn't he?
no
Fowler's last hire is doing well this season



Juardis wrote:
Wolfpack4Life wrote: In the distance I can hear Debbie sharpening an ax...
Who was the last folwer hire for $400 alex?
Brian Bunn - volleyball February 10, 2009

Springhorn hired January 6, 2009

FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 10/26/2012 10:23 AM

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wolfpack95 wrote: Women's soccer coach will be replaced shortly...based upon rumor from someone close to multiple players.
Both you and RunningWithThePack have stated similar things in this regard, do either of you have any information about how the players feel about this?  Obviously Springthorpe was probably one of the big reasons they decided to come to NCSU, but does it appear as though they are open to and/or wanting a change as well?
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Posted: 10/26/2012 10:38 AM

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Regardless of your opinion of whether we should have a womens soccer team, this is flat out embarrassing.  How many non-ACC programs right here in NC have an RPI higher than 173?  We might not be able to win the ACC in womens soccer (although, as noted, we once did), but we can damn sure do better than DFL.  I'm guessing the CASL All-star Girls under 19 team could probably kick our ***.  Just find someone who can get the local talent to stay home, and that would be enough to at least get us in the top half of the conference.  The curse of Alvin Corneal continues...
RemoteExploit wrote: NCAA RPI 10/22/2012


There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 10:43 AM

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wolfer79 wrote:
lumberpack3 wrote: We need to dump some sports.  I think we could get better results out a women's rowing team than a soccer or vollyball team.
since NC State is 55% male
the elimination of any women's sports might require the elimination of men's sports also

rowing allows 20 scholarships
soccer allows 12


NC State currently has NCAA teams in these sports (number of scholarships)
http://www.wolfpackclub.com/Vi...p;ATCLID=714149

edit: all scholarship numbers are the maximum allowed by NCAA and NC State awards the maximum scholarships allowed for all current sports.

Men - 161.17 scholarships awarded (58.8%)
Baseball 11.78
Basketball 13
Cross Country/Track 12.69
Football 85
Golf 4.5
Soccer 9.9
Swimming & Diving 9.9
Tennis 4.5
Wrestling 9.9

Women - 109 scholarships (39.8 %)
Basketball 15
Cross Country/Track 18
Golf 6
Gymnastics 12
Softball 12
Soccer 12
Swimming & Diving 14
Tennis 8
Volleyball 12

Co-ed - 3.6 scholarships (1.3 %)
Rifle 3.6

http://www2.acs.ncsu.edu/UPA/fastfacts/quick.htm
% female enrollment
fall 2005 43.5%
fall 2006 44.1%
fall 2007 44.2%
fall 2008 44.2%
fall 2009 44.5%
fall 2010 44.5%
fall 2011 44.1%
I know.  I would get rid of the men's soccer team and probably the wrestling team.  Perhaps both Tennis teams as well.  biggrin
I like the athletic type. 
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Posted: 10/26/2012 11:02 AM

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Actually, Kellie Harper was hired after both of those (April 22 2009):
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/...tory?id=4074818

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Posted: 10/26/2012 11:03 AM

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89Gradv2 wrote: Regardless of your opinion of whether we should have a womens soccer team, this is flat out embarrassing.  How many non-ACC programs right here in NC have an RPI higher than 173?  We might not be able to win the ACC in womens soccer (although, as noted, we once did), but we can damn sure do better than DFL.  I'm guessing the CASL All-star Girls under 19 team could probably kick our ***.  Just find someone who can get the local talent to stay home, and that would be enough to at least get us in the top half of the conference.  The curse of Alvin Corneal continues...
RemoteExploit wrote: NCAA RPI 10/22/2012

To answer my own question, here is a list of non-ACC schools  in NC, SC, and Virginia from smaller conferences (ie I omitted "major" conferences like SEC/Big East, etc.) with a higher RPI than us:

William & Mary      (59)
UNC-Wilmington    (62)
UNC-Greensboro   (65)
VCU                   (79)
ECU                   (84)
Charlotte            (86)
E. Tenn. State    (114)
Furman              (116)
Radford              (121)
Richmond           (129)

There are 7 other schools in NC/SC/Va with RPIs better than us (including Campbell, High Point, and Davidson), but you get the point.  I refuse to believe that none of these schools has a staff that could do a better job than the one we have currently...

Oh, and looking back at our losses this year, Old Dominion (2-0 loss) finished with RPI of 273.  Cincinatti (3-1 loss) finished with RPI of 219.  In fairness, Texas and LSU (our "even a blind hog finds an acorn once in a while" wins) finished in the top 100 in RPI.


There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.
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