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Women's Soccer 2012-13: Santoro named coach, recruiting 2013-14

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Posted: 7/23/2012 7:33 AM

Women's Soccer 2012-13: Santoro named coach, recruiting 2013-14 


The NC State women's soccer season opens with an exhibition on Aug. 11 at home against William & Mary. Full schedule here.

The soccer blog All White Kit has a detailed, lengthy preview of the Pack, and they'll be posting other previews of the ACC teams in the coming days. Here's the projected outlook for State:

After a nicely sized step forward last year for NC State, 2012 might be a step back for the club, which sees much of its depth chipped away by graduation and transfers. There are losses to make up for all over the field, which is hardly a great omen considering the dog-eat-dog nature of the ACC. The club does have some fine building blocks for the future like impressive sophomores Sandridge and Spamer, but the Wolfpack need much, much more to be a contender in the nation’s toughest league. The defense looks like being a bit more fragile with half the backline departing and the need to break in a new goalkeeper.

 

It’s worse going forward, with almost all of the club’s outlets for offense gone, with much depending on the health of Krauser and just how fast some of the rookies can make an impact. Matching last season’s RPI finish could be very, very tough, and the Wolfpack are serious contenders for the basement in the ACC this year, though the additions of Syracuse and Pittsburgh next season should give them some semblance of hope in not being league whipping boys for long.

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Posted: 7/27/2012 9:03 AM

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FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 7/27/2012 10:02 AM

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A nice breakdown indeed. It looks like a major rebuilding season is at hand. I was suprised that the 2013 recruiting was not ranked in the top 50. Not good.

Plus Appalachian State is ranked at 33 for 2012 and State is ranked 91.

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Posted: 7/27/2012 10:10 AM

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Looks like this is going to be yet another Fowler hire that simply can't get the job done.  A parade of absolutely horrific coaching hires have transformed a program that was once a close second to UNC in the ACC pecking order into an absolute shambles.  Ever heard of Alvin Corneal?  Yeah, neither have most people...


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Posted: 7/27/2012 10:38 AM

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Unfortunately, (much like women's basketball) State is getting absolutely drubbed by the rest of the conference in recruiting.  Many of the non-revenue sports are on the upswing but these are two I'm very concerned about.
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Posted: 7/27/2012 12:13 PM

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WickedMojo wrote: Unfortunately, (much like women's basketball) State is getting absolutely drubbed by the rest of the conference in recruiting.  Many of the non-revenue sports are on the upswing but these are two I'm very concerned about.
As a disinterested third party....I would think it would be difficult for anyone to come in to the program and be successful.  If you look at last season's final RPI...4 of the top 5 were ACC teams.  There were 8 ACC teams in the top 25.  The other programs got an early start in the sport and have built a bit of a monopoly that will be difficult to break into.  The ACC is the dominant league in Women's soccer, and the top recruits will be drawn to the programs that have a history of success.  You will need a game changer at HC to be able to break back into the elite of the conference.

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Posted: 8/8/2012 6:30 PM

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Eight Atlantic Coast Conference Women's Soccer teams are ranked among the Top 25 of 2012 NSCAA Preseason Rankings, including five among the top eight teams.

2011 Women's College Cup participants Duke, Wake Forest and Florida State are ranked second, third and fourth respectively. Virginia earned a No. 7 preseason ranking, while North Carolina is ranked No. 8.

Boston College is ranked 11th, Maryland 13th and Virginia Tech 22nd. A ninth ACC team, Miami, received votes

FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 8/11/2012 7:30 AM

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FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 8/12/2012 8:24 AM

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Women's Soccer Draws 1-1 With William & Mary in Exhibition
Ariela Schreibeis gave the Wolfpack a lead with a penalty kick in the 29th minute

The Pack will open its regular season next Friday at Old Dominion in Norfolk, Va., at 7 p.m. The home opener will be two day later on Sunday against Cincinnati at 1 p.m.

FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 8/12/2012 1:10 PM

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A friend of mine is the HC at a Big South school in NC (that should narrow it down for you guys) and I've heard* that Springthorpe was given an extension after last season (*Friends wife told my wife, and 2 years I believe). They read the information or it was passed along through a coaching website.

Apparently he was told that he would have the full support of the AD's office to do whatever it took to become competitive at not only the ACC, but a national level.  If he didn't succeed accomplishing whatever specific goals were listed, there wasn't going to be any discussion, he was done.  Can anyone confirm or deny this? 

The only contract I can find online is from 2009 and appears to be renewable on a yearly basis.
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Posted: 8/13/2012 10:48 AM

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madmaxvol wrote:
WickedMojo wrote: Unfortunately, (much like women's basketball) State is getting absolutely drubbed by the rest of the conference in recruiting.  Many of the non-revenue sports are on the upswing but these are two I'm very concerned about.
As a disinterested third party....I would think it would be difficult for anyone to come in to the program and be successful.  If you look at last season's final RPI...4 of the top 5 were ACC teams.  There were 8 ACC teams in the top 25.  The other programs got an early start in the sport and have built a bit of a monopoly that will be difficult to break into.  The ACC is the dominant league in Women's soccer, and the top recruits will be drawn to the programs that have a history of success.  You will need a game changer at HC to be able to break back into the elite of the conference.
I have to take issue with the bolded statement...NC State was the original challenger to UNC's womens soccer dominance. One of the Larry Gross teams was rated as high as No. 1 nationally, and played an epic ACC championship game vs. one of Anson Dorrance's best teams that ended with NC state winning on penalty kicks.  We had an elite program and we blew it with a series of horrific coaching hires.  As the article linked earlier in this thread states,

"While missing out likely stung Wolfpack supporters, at least it gave them something to talk about after a long, painful decline for a program that had been used to consistent appearances deep into the NCAA Tournament before the turn of the millennium and even a spot in the College Cup final against North Carolina in 1988. Almost all of that success came under legendary coach Larry Gross, and it’s been a rocky drop towards the ACC basement since then. In truth, the rot began at the end of the reign of Gross’ successor, Alvin Corneal, and has continued unabated for the most part. Corneal departed after the 1997 season but not before a rather dubious streak for the Wolfpack started, namely the fact that NC State hasn’t had a winning ACC season since 1995, when the league was much more compact."


Not trying to pile on, but according to that site, our recruiting for 2012 was ranked no. 10 in the ACC, ahead of only Wake Forest.  8 of the ACC schools in front of us were in the top 25 nationally, with Clemson at 67 and us at 91.  Appalachian State, Furman, East Tennessee State, and Middle Tennessee State were all ranked higher than we were...

http://www.allwhitekit.com/?p=9695


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Posted: 8/13/2012 2:01 PM

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TopDrawerSoccer.com offers up their preview:

NC State (10-8-2/1-7-2)

Look no further than the Wolfpack to get a good indication how deep this conference is. With a non-conference record of 9-1, NC State lost five games in the ACC by a margin of one goal, and finished with an overall winning record despite finishing second to last in the conference.

Turning those losses into ties or wins is crucial if they want to reach the NCAA tournament, but it’s going to be an uphill battle after the departure of the team’s top three leadings scorers from 2011. Stephanie Bronson transferred to UNC Wilmington(w) while Tanya Cain and Alex Berger both graduated.

One of the most experienced players left is captain Meagan Proper, who will have to pick up a lot of the goal scoring slack along with her leadership role. Defender Shelli Spamer is going to be critical to the back line as well.

Since this is such a young team, if the recruiting class can leave their mark, it could lead to an NCAA berth for NC State.

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Posted: 8/13/2012 2:58 PM

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loneycafe wrote: TopDrawerSoccer.com offers up their preview:

NC State (10-8-2/1-7-2)

Look no further than the Wolfpack to get a good indication how deep this conference is. With a non-conference record of 9-1, NC State lost five games in the ACC by a margin of one goal, and finished with an overall winning record despite finishing second to last in the conference.

Turning those losses into ties or wins is crucial if they want to reach the NCAA tournament, but it’s going to be an uphill battle after the departure of the team’s top three leadings scorers from 2011. Stephanie Bronson transferred to UNC Wilmington(w) while Tanya Cain and Alex Berger both graduated.

One of the most experienced players left is captain Meagan Proper, who will have to pick up a lot of the goal scoring slack along with her leadership role. Defender Shelli Spamer is going to be critical to the back line as well.

Since this is such a young team, if the recruiting class can leave their mark, it could lead to an NCAA berth for NC State.

That's unlikely to happen with a recruiting class ranked 2nd to last in the ACC and no. 91 nationally, isn't it?


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Posted: 8/13/2012 3:52 PM

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89Gradv2 wrote:
madmaxvol wrote:
WickedMojo wrote: Unfortunately, (much like women's basketball) State is getting absolutely drubbed by the rest of the conference in recruiting.  Many of the non-revenue sports are on the upswing but these are two I'm very concerned about.
As a disinterested third party....I would think it would be difficult for anyone to come in to the program and be successful.  If you look at last season's final RPI...4 of the top 5 were ACC teams.  There were 8 ACC teams in the top 25.  The other programs got an early start in the sport and have built a bit of a monopoly that will be difficult to break into.  The ACC is the dominant league in Women's soccer, and the top recruits will be drawn to the programs that have a history of success.  You will need a game changer at HC to be able to break back into the elite of the conference.
I have to take issue with the bolded statement...NC State was the original challenger to UNC's womens soccer dominance. One of the Larry Gross teams was rated as high as No. 1 nationally, and played an epic ACC championship game vs. one of Anson Dorrance's best teams that ended with NC state winning on penalty kicks.  We had an elite program and we blew it with a series of horrific coaching hires.  As the article linked earlier in this thread states,

"While missing out likely stung Wolfpack supporters, at least it gave them something to talk about after a long, painful decline for a program that had been used to consistent appearances deep into the NCAA Tournament before the turn of the millennium and even a spot in the College Cup final against North Carolina in 1988. Almost all of that success came under legendary coach Larry Gross, and it’s been a rocky drop towards the ACC basement since then. In truth, the rot began at the end of the reign of Gross’ successor, Alvin Corneal, and has continued unabated for the most part. Corneal departed after the 1997 season but not before a rather dubious streak for the Wolfpack started, namely the fact that NC State hasn’t had a winning ACC season since 1995, when the league was much more compact."


Not trying to pile on, but according to that site, our recruiting for 2012 was ranked no. 10 in the ACC, ahead of only Wake Forest.  8 of the ACC schools in front of us were in the top 25 nationally, with Clemson at 67 and us at 91.  Appalachian State, Furman, East Tennessee State, and Middle Tennessee State were all ranked higher than we were...

http://www.allwhitekit.com/?p=9695
 "Appalachian State, Furman, East Tennessee State, and Middle Tennessee State were all ranked higher than we were..."

That is nuts. No way that should ever happen.
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Posted: 8/13/2012 4:06 PM

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In all fairness, I did not look at the site's methodology for recruiting rankings.  But their comments in the season preview about the history of our program were spot on.  Alvin Corneal was a horrendous hire.  And Laura Kerrigan simply demonstrated the aphorism that simply because you can PLAY a sport very well doesn't mean you can COACH the sport well.  And she was allowed to coach for eleven seasons.  Its a shame we didn't land an AD like Debbie Yow sooner. Because the holes some of these programs have dug themselves into (Swimming and volleyball are other examples that come to mind) might not have gotten so deep...


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Posted: 8/16/2012 1:06 PM

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All White Kit offers its ACC projections, placing NC State last in the conference.


ACC

11North Carolina StateA few solid contributors, but talent gap too large after graduation to expect anything approaching even last year. Given experience on last season’s team, window for short-term success may have closed after last season’s close shave. Couple of noteworthy prospects can’t overcome club’s overall middling talent at this level.

See full projections here.
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Posted: 8/17/2012 9:47 AM

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FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 8/17/2012 3:12 PM

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Match #1: NC State at Old Dominion
When: 7 p.m. Friday, Aug. 17
Where: Norfolk, Va. (ODU Soccer Stadium)
All-time Series Record: State leads 5-1-1

http://www.gopack.com/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/081 712aab.html

FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 8/17/2012 9:03 PM

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State 0 - 2 ODU
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Posted: 8/17/2012 9:05 PM

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The Pack falls 2-0 at ODU in season opener. State had 26 shots in the match. Team plays home vs. Cincinnati on Sunday at 1

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Posted: 8/17/2012 9:07 PM

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Starting off with a ******* bang

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Posted: 8/17/2012 9:52 PM

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From GoPack.com:

Despite a commanding 26-12 advantage in shots, the NC State women's soccer team lost 2-0 at Old Dominion in the season opener for both clubs Friday night at ODU Soccer Stadium.

The Wolfpack penetrated the Monarchs defense all evening long - coming up with 10 shots in the first half, and 16 more in the second half - but according to head coach Steve Springthorpe not enough of those were good scoring chances.

"It was a matter of not finishing and taking advantage of the good opportunities that we had chances at scoring," said Springthorpe. "The bottomed line is we didn't generate enough quality goal scoring opportunities."

Freshman Caroline Gentry was very active in her collegiate debut, coming up with a match-leading six shots in 90 minutes. ....

NC State hosts Cincinnati on Sunday at Dail Soccer Field beginning at 1 p.m.
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Posted: 8/17/2012 10:01 PM

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I heard Debbie say, in person, that "we need women's BB and men's and women's soccer to get to the NCAA's".........and she did not mean 3-5 years down the road.

She also said "we need for our football team to challenge for the ACC championship this year."

You can make of that what you will.
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Posted: 8/17/2012 10:26 PM

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PackMentality87 wrote: I heard Debbie say, in person, that "we need women's BB and men's and women's soccer to get to the NCAA's".........and she did not mean 3-5 years down the road.

She also said "we need for our football team to challenge for the ACC championship this year."

You can make of that what you will.
Women's soccer has been winning, what, about one conference match per year? Big problem, there. Another big problem is women's basketball. We have a coach who knows X's and O's well, but absolutely cannot recruit or develop talent. Debbie has her work cut out for her or she is going to be eating her own words. Football definitely needs to live up to expectations this year, preferably by not waiting until mid October to start the season.
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Posted: 8/19/2012 12:14 PM

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Match #2: Cincinnati (0-0-1) at NC State (0-1-0)
When: 1 p.m. Sunday, Aug. 19
Where: Dail Soccer Field
All-time Series Record: State leads 3-2-1

www.gopack.com/sports/w-soccer.../081912aaa.html

FB prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4, (2013) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9,10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7,12-6


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Posted: 8/19/2012 1:59 PM

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Down 2-0 at the half.   We've had 11 shots on goal to their 3.  We had 6 corners to their 1.  They've credited with 4 saves to our 0.

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Posted: 8/19/2012 2:11 PM

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3 shots on goal and they have 2 goals?

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Posted: 8/19/2012 2:13 PM

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lol ... Wolfpack soccer
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Posted: 8/19/2012 2:23 PM

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It's pretty disconcerting that for the second match in a row we completely dominate shots on goal, yet score no goals while the other team can score multiple times on only a few shots.
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Posted: 8/19/2012 2:42 PM

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Now 3-1 Cincy at the 76 minute mark. We now have 14 shots on goal to their 6.
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