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RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
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Posted: 1/11/2013 8:08 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
wolfpackernc wrote: Did I hear right that Rutherford mentioned the need to raise ticket prices in today's "We're back" press conference? Please tell me he isn't that stupid. I don't care if it is true, you don't say that in your first press conference after leaving the fans out in the cold for 3 months. what little I heard was JR saying the Hurricanes would need to earn the fans back, "seat by seat" if that was what it took. I have not heard entire press conference, but it appears to be here.
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 1/11/2013 9:10 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
wolfpackernc wrote: Where on earth are you getting KHL Alexander Semin scouting reports from?
ETA: I see the story I presume you are referring to....from November, after 8 games in the KHL. There was also a recent story about why he was left off the KHL all star team ... still not in shape per the coach.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 9:21 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 9/15 lockout at 11:59pm
psupack wrote: It is becoming comical how the players and Bettman live in their Canadian bubbles and think everything will be alright when they finally reach a deal. Sorry to say, but they are losing a TON of fans and I don't think they even know it. You think Bettman is Canadian? ---
“My concern is what disaster are we gonna be dealing with 3, 4, 5 years from now that will be the consequences of giving Wall Street’s most reckless players a pass?” Barry Ritholtz
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Posted: 1/11/2013 9:24 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
wolfpackernc wrote:
wrcwolf wrote: Leafs GM, Brian Burke, fired today. Entering 5th yr of 6-yr deal. How do you fire the GM 10 days before the season starts in a shortened season? Unbelievable. New ownership, but why now? The beat continues in Toronto. Obviously Burke is very opinionated. Guess he pissed off the wrong person recently. Indeed, that's very strange timing.
Wonder if this impacts the Luongo-to-Toronto rumors one way or the other. Rumor was that the Kessell trade to Boston was a big part of this. Burke got suckered on that one pretty good, to the Bruins huge benefit. ---
“My concern is what disaster are we gonna be dealing with 3, 4, 5 years from now that will be the consequences of giving Wall Street’s most reckless players a pass?” Barry Ritholtz
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Posted: 1/11/2013 10:17 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 9/15 lockout at 11:59pm
BostonWolf wrote:
psupack wrote: It is becoming comical how the players and Bettman live in their Canadian bubbles and think everything will be alright when they finally reach a deal. Sorry to say, but they are losing a TON of fans and I don't think they even know it. You think Bettman is Canadian? I have no idea if he's Canadian. I know he works in Toronto and surrounds himself with Canadian cronies. Interesting, that's all you took from my month old post. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 10:35 AM
Re: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
Looks like the Canes will be in Florida on the 19th. From a Panthers blog:
"According to what Panther President Michael Yormark said in an interview on the Big "O" Show on 640 AM Tuesday evening, the Panthers will open at home on the 19th. No opponent was confirmed but Yormark said there is a good chance it will be the Carolina Hurricanes"
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"There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil." - Ayn Rand
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:20 PM
Re: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
I don't know what y'all see in Semin.
The guy sucks the alternate pronunciation of his name, and he's lazier than a Obama phone user.
As for the shortened season helping the Hurricanes...don't see it. This bunch are notoriously bad starters. Come February and March of a normal season, the Hurricanes are almost unbeatable, but during the first three months, they're usually awful.
If they RAISE ticket prices, they might as well pack it in.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:28 PM
Re: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
HollySpringsWolf wrote:
As for the shortened season helping the Hurricanes...don't see it. This bunch are notoriously bad starters. Come February and March of a normal season, the Hurricanes are almost unbeatable, but during the first three months, they're usually awful. You are looking at it wrong - they skipped the first three months. Now they just get their good February and March months. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:35 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 9/15 lockout at 11:59pm
psupack wrote:
BostonWolf wrote:
psupack wrote: It is becoming comical how the players and Bettman live in their Canadian bubbles and think everything will be alright when they finally reach a deal. Sorry to say, but they are losing a TON of fans and I don't think they even know it. You think Bettman is Canadian? I have no idea if he's Canadian. I know he works in Toronto and surrounds himself with Canadian cronies. Interesting, that's all you took from my month old post. Umm ... Bettman works out of the NHL's New York office, and you'd expect there to be a lot of Canadians involved in the league office since well over half the players in the NHL are in fact Canadian. Most Canadian NHL fans hate the guy and feel like he's not in touch with the spirit of the game ... mostly because of his background as a labor lawyer for the NBA. I think the guy is a bridge troll of a human being but being Canadian or having a Canadian perspective is not among his issues.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:45 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
Ex-Cane Sami Kapanen about to play on the same professional team as his 16-year-old son: sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puc...27651--nhl.html |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:51 PM
Re: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
^^^ The pessimist line of thinking can't look at it that way. With a shortened season, goalie play will be critical. Hopefully Ward will play up to his contract. As for ticket prices, the Canes are one of the cheapest tickets in the league. Especially premium seating. If the cap floor rises, and it will rise (one of the downfalls to a strong Canadian dollar, wolfpackernc), the Canes will probably be forced to raise ticket prices closer to the league average. I would think they'd raise premium seats significantly and the others marginally. NHL Fan Cost Index in link. - comprises the prices of four (4) average-price tickets, two (2) small draft beers, four (4) small soft drinks, four (4) regular-size hot dogs, parking for one (1) car, two (2) game programs and two (2) least-expensive, adult-size adjustable caps. Costs were determined by telephone calls with representatives of the teams, venues and concessionaires. Identical questions were asked in all interviews. www.fancostexperience.com/pages/fcx/fci_pdfs/6.pdf
Last edited 1/11/2013 1:52 PM by wrcwolf
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Posted: 1/11/2013 1:57 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 9/15 lockout at 11:59pm
psupack wrote:
BostonWolf wrote:
psupack wrote: It is becoming comical how the players and Bettman live in their Canadian bubbles and think everything will be alright when they finally reach a deal. Sorry to say, but they are losing a TON of fans and I don't think they even know it. You think Bettman is Canadian? I have no idea if he's Canadian. I know he works in Toronto and surrounds himself with Canadian cronies. Interesting, that's all you took from my month old post. That was about the only thing worthy of comment. Except perhaps in Raleigh, hockey doesn't have a whole lot of casual fans. They might have lost a few, but I doubt in the end that attendance numbers will be much different than they were last season for most teams.
I can pretty much guarantee the TD Garden will be banged out for every game, and the TV deal with NBC is signed and sealed. ---
“My concern is what disaster are we gonna be dealing with 3, 4, 5 years from now that will be the consequences of giving Wall Street’s most reckless players a pass?” Barry Ritholtz
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Posted: 1/11/2013 2:07 PM
Re: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
wrcwolf wrote: ^^^ The pessimist line of thinking can't look at it that way. With a shortened season, goalie play will be critical. Hopefully Ward will play up to his contract.
As for ticket prices, the Canes are one of the cheapest tickets in the league. Especially premium seating. If the cap floor rises, and it will rise (one of the downfalls to a strong Canadian dollar, wolfpackernc), the Canes will probably be forced to raise ticket prices closer to the league average. I would think they'd raise premium seats significantly and the others marginally.
NHL Fan Cost Index in link.
- comprises the prices of four (4) average-price tickets, two (2) small draft beers, four (4) small soft drinks, four (4) regular-size hot dogs, parking for one (1) car, two (2) game programs and two (2) least-expensive, adult-size adjustable caps. Costs were determined by telephone calls with representatives of the teams, venues and concessionaires. Identical questions were asked in all interviews.
www.fancostexperience.com/pages/fcx/fci_pdfs/6.pdf I'll believe that fan cost experience a little more if they could tell me where they found a beer in the ESA, RBC, or PNC Arena for $5.75. I remember paying $6 a decade ago. The 'Canes have a major problem with the ticket prices. Unlike the Rangers, Leafs, etc., where corporate accounts buy the premium seats and use them as gifts, perks, write-offs, etc., the 'Canes have very little in corporate support. It's regular folks buying the seats in Raleigh, and raising the prices in an stagnant economy coupled with a lockout where both sides were at fault, isn't exactly going to improve attendance. They probably have seats that are way underpriced, as well as some that are overpriced. The Club seats are probably the most underpriced, while some of the upper level seats are overpriced. |
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Posted: 1/11/2013 3:13 PM
Re: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
Semin gets a bad rap because people just love to hear ***** like McGuire and MacLean bash people on NHL Network and NBC. He had two "down" seasons in Washington, and suddenly he's a terrible player. He's on a 1-year deal, 28 years old with something to prove. People are ******* crazy if they think he'll be a bust in Carolina. He'll put up some very good numbers here.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 10:03 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
Semin is in town so should be at camp Sunday.
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Posted: 1/11/2013 10:03 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
kpm wrote: Semin is in town so should be at camp Sunday. Look out Glenwood South. |
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Posted: 1/12/2013 10:53 AM
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Ex-Cane Erik Cole taking some real heat (in the comments section, at least) for some comments he made about the new CBA: www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=413349Wrong time to say stuff like that when you just got your $4.5 million/year job back. Perhaps, if the heat builds, he could be traded somewhere. Heh, heh. |
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Posted: 1/12/2013 11:05 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
would be nice to get a schedule
would it help to email Debbie Yow about this?
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
Last edited 1/12/2013 11:05 AM by wolfer79
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Posted: 1/12/2013 11:06 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
FeloniousQ wrote:
kpm wrote: Semin is in town so should be at camp Sunday.
Look out Glenwood South. Semin is a good player, and a very very odd duck.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 11:25 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
HollySpringsWolf, you can't compare the Canes in any financial situation to big-market teams like Toronto or the Rangers. The Canes will never be at that level. You can and should compare them to similar markets like Nashville, San Jose on the high end, etc... Getting ticket prices to the level of many of those similar teams while maintaining or better yet, increasing ticket sales, should be the goal of the organization. Premium tickets is one area that the organization probably needs to look at hard in the future, if needed.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 11:26 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
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Posted: 1/12/2013 4:12 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
Last edited 1/12/2013 4:13 PM by kpm
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Posted: 1/12/2013 4:22 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
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Posted: 1/12/2013 4:47 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
www.nhlpa.com/news/players-vot...with-nhl-owners players vote to OK deal, but it still must be signed to be official
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Posted: 1/12/2013 6:52 PM
Re: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
I'm just curious but to lazy to venture there and read the details - anyone know what the % of the vote was - I'd be surprised if its noted.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 7:16 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
Saw something that the overwhelming majority voted yes to ratify. Something like around 30 voted no. So basically one no vote per team. Can't remember who reported that.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 7:17 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
Erik Cole voted no based on what he said to the media.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 11:11 PM
Re: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
Schedule out. At Florida Saturday to open. Home opener is Tuesday against Tampa. 4 of first 6 games at home, then they go on their longest road trip of the year, 6 games. So after 12 games, could have an idea of expectations. Finish up with Rangers, @Pittsburgh. hurricanes.nhl.com/club/schedule.htm |
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Posted: 1/12/2013 11:35 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
Will all the games that aren't on NHLN or Versus be on FSN?
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Posted: 1/13/2013 8:39 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
partizanpack wrote: Will all the games that aren't on NHLN or Versus be on FSN? games not on national TV not shown as on regional TV yet. may depend on ACC MBB schedule no MBB/hockey doubleheaders @ PNC looking at NC State MBB schedule with hockey schedule conflicts in bold Jan 22 NC State @ Wake Forest 7pm RSNHockey home opener vs Lighting 7pmFebruary 2 MBB vs Miami 4pm Hockey @ Flyers 7pm February 7 MBB @ Duke ACCN 9pm hockey @ Senators 7:30pm February 23 MBB 2 unc-ch 4pm espn/espn2/watchespn hockey vs Lighting 7pm March 3 MBB @ Georgia Tech 6pm ESPNU hockey @ Panthers 6pm March 9 MBB @ Florida State 2pm espn/espn2 hockey vs Devils 7pm going to take longer to compare all acc RSN games
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
Last edited 1/13/2013 8:51 AM by wolfer79
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Posted: 1/13/2013 8:50 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season start?
partizanpack wrote: Will all the games that aren't on NHLN or Versus be on FSN? ACC RSN games with Hurricanes gamesconflicts in boldJan 22 NC State @ Wake Forest 7pm/vs Lighting 7pmFeb 2 Maryland @ Wake Forest 2pm/@ Flyers 7pm Feb 9 Georgia Tech @ Virginia Tech 1pm/@ Flyers 1pmFeb 14 Clemson @ Georgia Tech 7pm/vs Maple Leafs 7pmFeb 23 Miami @ Wake Forest 1pm/vs Lighting 7pm March 2 Clemson @ Virginia Tech 8pm/vs Panthers 7pmMarch 5 Boston College @ Clemson 7pm/vs Sabres 7pm
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
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Posted: 1/13/2013 8:55 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season opens 1/22 home op
Here is the new TV reporter for the games, she is a former beauty queen in NH www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOp_xMZaNhg |
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Posted: 1/13/2013 8:57 AM
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Canes making an effort for opening night hurricanes.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=858582012-13 Opening Night and Week CelebrationJoin the Carolina Hurricanes for Opening Night on Jan. 22, as the Canes take on the Tampa Bay Lightning. The puck drops at 7 p.m., and doors open an hour prior to that. Below is a comprehensive list of promotions that will run that night and throughout the first week. Flags for Every FanOn Opening Night, every fan in attendance will receive a Carolina Hurricanes 2’x3’ house flag, presented by PNC. The Eye Care Associates Storm Squad and Stormy will be assisting with the giveaway and welcoming fans back to PNC Arena at each entrance. Top Shelf Gifts At Every Whistle StopAt every whistle stop on Opening Night, the Hurricanes will be giving away more than $50,000 in gifts, including suites, Lenovo Champions Club tickets, front row seats, unique game experiences (such as watching warm-ups from the penalty box or bench, riding on the Olympia, etc.), replica jerseys, autographed items and more! Half Off All Canes Gear at The EyeFrom Jan. 13 through Jan. 24, fans will receive 50% off all merchandise at The Eye team store. Hat Trick of Food for a Buck EachOn Jan. 22 (vs. Tampa Bay) and Jan. 24 (vs. Buffalo), fans can purchase hot dogs, popcorn and sodas from PNC Arena concessions for just $1. 50% Off Opening Night TicketsBeginning Wednesday, Jan. 16 at 10 a.m., fans who subscribe to the Hurricanes Watch email newsletter will receive an exclusive online code for 50% off Opening Night tickets. This sale will last for 36 hours, concluding on Thursday, Jan. 17 at 10 p.m. Canes Alumni Signing Autographs on the ConcourseCory Stillman and Aaron Ward, two members of the 2006 Stanley Cup Championship team, will be signing autographs on the concourse prior to Opening Night on Jan. 22. Other Items New Season Ticket Holder entrances, featuring faster lines and TVs in the security area. New pillar wraps on the north concourse – three interactive pillars, four historic pillars and one large Eric Staal pillar. New anthem singer (Ruby Gibbs) and female co-host (Amber Sersen)
football record prediction (2010) 3-9, 1-7 (2011) 5-7, 2-6 (2012) 7-5, 4-4
MBB prediction: (2010-11) 21-9, 10-6 (2011-12) 19-12, 7-9 (2012-13) 24-7, 12-6
Last edited 1/13/2013 8:58 AM by wolfer79
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Posted: 1/13/2013 10:35 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season opens 1/22 home op
Dangit....I don't want to spend extra money on them but that 50% off offer on gear is tempting.
Last edited 1/13/2013 10:36 AM by wolfpackernc
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Posted: 1/13/2013 10:39 AM
Re: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season opens 1/22 home
Canes just traded Boucher (G) to the Flyers for Alt (D) ............. a salary dump move. Alt will go to the Checkers - no doubt.
Dan Ellis moves to the back up goalie job.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 10:40 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season opens 1/22 home op
50% off gear means I can replace my Sutter sweater with a more relevant one.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 10:55 AM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season opens 1/22 home op
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50% off gear means I can replace my Sutter sweater with a more relevant one.
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I only have a white Cole sweater. Given his recent comments and my desire for a red sweater, I could see a Staal sweater in my near future.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 12:40 PM
Re: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season opens 1/22 home
--------------------------------------------- --- Motorcat wrote: Canes just traded Boucher (G) to the Flyers for Alt (D) ............. a salary dump move. Alt will go to the Checkers - no doubt. Dan Ellis moves to the back up goalie job. --------------------------------------------- Actually Boucher and Alt to Philly for forward Luke Pither. Pither to Charlotte. McKenzie said last night that the Canes are looking around for some 4th line toughness (goon). Something needed, IMO. Here's NBC's and NBCSN's TV schedule. No Canes games at the moment, but they do have flex options later in the season. NBCSN exclusive window (no local coverage allowed) appears to be Wednesday at 7:30. www.nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/50443039As far as FS Carolinas coverage of the Canes, I would imagine they'll televise all of the Canes games with the exception of those in the Wednesday night exclusive window of NBCSN. Any conflicts with other coverage will be placed on the alternate channel. Also, the NHLN broadcasts are one of the teams playing local feeds. Most likely all of those games will be blacked out on the NHLN in the Canes TV viewing area (North and South Carolina) with the games televised on FS Carolinas. ETA: Montreal is shelving Scott Gomez for the season. Told him to stay home, don't want him in the NHL or the AHL. Will pay him in full. Here's McKenzie's article on the Rangers and Wade Redden. Similar case and the Canadians chose option 3 for Gomez. www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=413185
Last edited 1/13/2013 12:50 PM by wrcwolf
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Posted: 1/13/2013 12:59 PM
RE: Carolina Hurricanes 2012-13.1 1/19 season opens 1/22 home op
And just like that, the Canes get their goon with an NC State tie. Stewart goes to Kings for Kevin Westgarth. A Princeton grad, Raleigh citizen and Bill ******'s son-in-law. Makes sense. Was practicing with the Canes' players during the lockout when not representing the PA at meetings. One of the players who was present at many of the lockout negotiations.
Along with Stewart, the Canes send a '13 4th and a '14 6th to LA for Westgarth.
Last edited 1/13/2013 1:07 PM by wrcwolf
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Posted: 1/13/2013 1:36 PM
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Thanks for the correction on the Boucher trade .......... I was just coming to correct it.
They actually posted it wrong on their facebook page - its now corrected.
The Westgarth move was a good one - he can throw down.
I'm getting a little excited again about hockey but the whole lockout thing is making for a bitter pill to swallow - that and some other general apathy I have for the Hurricanes organization.
They better come out of the gates winning - if not I think alot of fans just stay away for a good while.
Last edited 1/13/2013 1:37 PM by Motorcat
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