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Posted: 2/20/2013 5:58 PM

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wolfpack87 wrote: UFC released Jon Fitch today and 15 other fighters. Absolutely shocked they released Fitch.

You shouldn't be. Dana's hatred for Fitch is pretty well known. Remember when he kicked out his entire camp over rights negotiations during the making of the first UFC video game? Dana has always hated Fitch.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 6:00 PM

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slickrick00 wrote: This Saturday's UFC event from the Honda Center in Anaheim, California on Pay-Per-View:

- 135 lbs.- "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey (California; 6-0) vs. Liz Carmouche (California; 8-2) *Women's bantamweight world championship
- 205 lbs.- Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida (Brazil; 18-3) vs. Dan Henderson (California; 29-8)
- 135 lbs.- Urijah "The California Kid" Faber (California; 28-6) vs. Ivan Menjivar (El Salvador; 25-9)
- 170 lbs.- Josh Koscheck (Pennsylvania; 19-6) vs. "Ruthless" Robbie Lawler (Iowa; 19-9)
- 170 lbs.- Court McGee (Utah; 13-3) vs. Josh Neer (Iowa; 33-12-1)

Prelims on FX:
- HWT - Brendan Schaub (Colorado; 9-3) vs. Lavar Johnson (California; 17-6)
- 155 lbs.- Michael "Maverick" Chiesa (Washington; 8-0) vs. Anton Kuivanen (Finland; 17-5)
- 145 lbs.- Dennis Bermudez (Pennsylvania; 10-3) vs. Matt Grice (Oklahoma; 15-4)
- 155 lbs.- Caros Fodor (Washington; 7-2) vs. Sam Stout (Canada; 19-8-1)
- 170 lbs.- Kenny Robertson (Illinois; 11-2) vs. Brock Jardine (Utah; 9-2)
- 170 lbs.- Neil Magny (Illinois; 7-2) vs. Jon Manley (Massachusetts; 7-2)

Pretty weak card, IMO. A lot of extremely one-sided fights. The only one that seems worth seeing is Hendo vs. the Dragon.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 6:27 PM

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wolfpack87 wrote: UFC released Jon Fitch today and 15 other fighters. Absolutely shocked they released Fitch.

You shouldn't be. Dana's hatred for Fitch is pretty well known. Remember when he kicked out his entire camp over rights negotiations during the making of the first UFC video game? Dana has always hated Fitch.
Dana has hated Rampage for years too, but never bounced him.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:52 PM

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THEkungfoodude wrote: Alvarez/Trout should be interesting, although I think Canelo should be a heavy favorite. I don't get Mayweather vs. Guerrero. Guerrero is tough but easy to touch and I can imagine this turns into a 12 round one-sided target practice for Floyd. Not sure what the draw really is.
I think you're underrating Guerrero.  Guys that have been successful against Mayweather are ones who take the fight to him and are capable of really pressuring him.  Castillo did that fairly successfully and lost a close, disputable decision.  De la Hoya did it for 4 rounds before he ran out of energy given that he was past his prime.  Guerrero is an extremely aggressive fighter with a chip on his shoulder (he was still talking trash to Aydin in the post-fight interview after he beat him) -- he has the ability to get under Floyd's skin and force him in to a fight that he'd be uncomfortable with.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:39 PM

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For boxing fans, there are six televised cards this weekend.  The first three are on Friday.

First, is ESPN2's Friday Night Fights which features a world title fight for the IBF junior welterweight belt at 9pm.  Lamont Peterson (30-1-1) won the title in a controversial split decision over Amir Khan in his last fight in December, 2011.  Then, in the lead-up to a rematch with Khan, Peterson failed a random drug test for a banned substance (which he said he had also taken before the first fight with Khan).  He ended up losing the WBA title which he had also won over Khan due to the issues.  He defends the title Friday against former world champion Kendall Holt (28-5).  Holt is a big puncher who has defeated a number of key guys at 140 pounds.  In recent years, he's struggled with shoulder injuries that have required surgical repair.

The co-feature to the card is a super bantamweight fight between two undefeated fighters.  Roman Morales (14-0) takes on Jesus Antonio Hernandez (10-0-3).  Morales is the much more accomplished fighter having previously beaten Jonathan Arrellano while Hernandez has has only won against very pedestrian competition and has three draws against poor opponents.

Showtime has a card on at 11pm featuring a junior welterweight fight between Art Hovhannisyan (15-0-2) and Alejandro Perez (16-3-1).  Hovhannisyan became a notable fighter when he knocked out the favored Archie Ray Marquez.  He then had a FNF main event against former champion Cristobal Cruz which ended up in a technical draw.  His last fight was a split decision win against faded, former champ Miguel Acosta.  On the other side, Perez is 2-2 in his last four fights, but the two wins were KOs over former prospects Derrick Wilson and Antonio Escalante.

The co-feature is a middleweight fight between Tureano Johnson (13-0) and Willie Fortune (15-0).  Johnson is from the Bahamas (and was on their Olympic team in 2008), and only two of his victories are against fighters with winning records, and those two had won only one more than they'd lost.  Fortune is also fairly untested in his career.

Finally, Telemundo has a card from Florida starting at 11:35.  The main event is Jose Nieves (21-2-3) versus Danny Flores (14-2) at bantamweight.  Nieves was extremely impressive in his last fight when he came out blasting against Glenn Porras and put him down in the first round and knocked him out in the second.  Supposedly, Nieves is closing in on a big fight.  Flores has a win over former world champion Eric Ortiz, but lost when he stepped up against Jonathan Gonzalez.  The co-feature for the card would only make the televised broadcast if Nieves makes it a short night, but it's a cruiserweight fight between Cuban Yunier Dorticos (13-0) and 41-year-old Czech fighter Roman Kracik (34-10).
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:20 PM

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Zhuge1 wrote:
THEkungfoodude wrote: Alvarez/Trout should be interesting, although I think Canelo should be a heavy favorite. I don't get Mayweather vs. Guerrero. Guerrero is tough but easy to touch and I can imagine this turns into a 12 round one-sided target practice for Floyd. Not sure what the draw really is.
I think you're underrating Guerrero.  Guys that have been successful against Mayweather are ones who take the fight to him and are capable of really pressuring him.  Castillo did that fairly successfully and lost a close, disputable decision.  De la Hoya did it for 4 rounds before he ran out of energy given that he was past his prime.  Guerrero is an extremely aggressive fighter with a chip on his shoulder (he was still talking trash to Aydin in the post-fight interview after he beat him) -- he has the ability to get under Floyd's skin and force him in to a fight that he'd be uncomfortable with.
The Ghost can take a punch too, he has no fear of getting hit in the face.
 
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:02 AM

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wolfpack87 wrote:
THEkungfoodude wrote:
wolfpack87 wrote: UFC released Jon Fitch today and 15 other fighters. Absolutely shocked they released Fitch.

You shouldn't be. Dana's hatred for Fitch is pretty well known. Remember when he kicked out his entire camp over rights negotiations during the making of the first UFC video game? Dana has always hated Fitch.
Dana has hated Rampage for years too, but never bounced him.

Yeah but Rampage could get people to buy a PPV, Fitch can't.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:05 AM

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Zhuge1 wrote:
THEkungfoodude wrote: Alvarez/Trout should be interesting, although I think Canelo should be a heavy favorite. I don't get Mayweather vs. Guerrero. Guerrero is tough but easy to touch and I can imagine this turns into a 12 round one-sided target practice for Floyd. Not sure what the draw really is.
I think you're underrating Guerrero.  Guys that have been successful against Mayweather are ones who take the fight to him and are capable of really pressuring him.  Castillo did that fairly successfully and lost a close, disputable decision.  De la Hoya did it for 4 rounds before he ran out of energy given that he was past his prime.  Guerrero is an extremely aggressive fighter with a chip on his shoulder (he was still talking trash to Aydin in the post-fight interview after he beat him) -- he has the ability to get under Floyd's skin and force him in to a fight that he'd be uncomfortable with.

I think he will pressure him but I think he's going to be getting hit constantly as he does it. Trust me, I would love to see Money get spanked but I don't see The Ghost as the guy to do it. I don't think he is capable of hurting Mayweather either. 12 rounds, lopsided unanimous decision, IMO.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 4:25 PM

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I read earlier that media coverage for this weekend's fight is way beyond a normal PPV fight week. Big time interest in Rousey's fight from media entities that don't cover the sports of MMA or Boxing at all.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 4:47 PM

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slickrick00 wrote: I read earlier that media coverage for this weekend's fight is way beyond a normal PPV fight week. Big time interest in Rousey's fight from media entities that don't cover the sports of MMA or Boxing at all.
Imagine that - who doesn't like a pretty woman?
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Posted: 2/21/2013 4:54 PM

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slickrick00 wrote: I read earlier that media coverage for this weekend's fight is way beyond a normal PPV fight week. Big time interest in Rousey's fight from media entities that don't cover the sports of MMA or Boxing at all.

I'm a bit skeptical about the long term success of Rousey. She is quite obviously a very talented athlete with a great background in judo.....but, I hope she evolves into a much more complete fighter. Right now, Santos would absolutely destroy her IMO. The women's division is only going to get more talented and competitive over time.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:14 PM

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Results from Germany tonight:

Alexander Alekseev (24-2-1) successfully defended his IBF cruiserweight title over Garrett Wilson (13-6-1) by unanimous decision. Scores were 117-111, 118-111, 116-112
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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:16 PM

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In 45 minutes there wil be a live IBF title fight on ESPN Friday Night Fights.

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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:32 PM

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For anyone interested, here's a rundown of Saturday's televised boxing:

For anyone with WealthTV, there's a heavyweight fight on at 4pm from Liverpool, England featuring English prospect David Price (15-0) and two-time title challenger Tony "The Tiger" Thompson (36-3).  Price is a big guy at 6'8" and packs a solid punch having stopped four top British fighters in his last four fights.  Thompson is now 41 and coming off a title loss to Wladimir Klitschko.  He's past his prime, but is an awkward left-hander with solid boxing skills.

There is a 9pm card from Detroit televised on Showtime.

The main event is an IBF light middleweight title fight.  Cornelius Bundrage (32-4) defends against Ishe Smith (24-5).  Bundrage is 39 and has really improved in his career over the past couple of years as he began working with the late Emmanuel Steward.  In his last three fights, Bundrage has beaten Cory Spinks twice and also avenged an earlier defeat to Sechew Powell.  While Bundrage has looked good, he's been largely inactive as he has only had three fights in the past three years.  Smith is best known as a contestant on the first season of The Contender and originally came on to the scene as the chief sparring partner for Fernando Vargas.  Smith lost controversially in The Contender and has mismanaged his career since then, turning down good money fights because he felt they weren't for "enough" and then losing fights against better opponents by simply going through the motions during the fight and not being busy enough with his punches.

The co-feature is a middleweight fight between prospect J'Leon Love (14-0) and solid journeyman Derrick Findley (20-8).  Love is a solid prospect but has been only lightly tested.  Findley is a decent step-up for him and knocked out Ronald Hearns (son of "The Hitman" Thomas Hearns) in his last fight.

At 10pm, there's a card from Huntington, New York which features a heavyweight fight between two undefeated guys.  Malik Scott (35-0) takes on Vyacheslav Glazkov (14-0).  Scott was a notable prospect several years ago that was featured on Showtime several times alongside Rocky Juarez and Julio Diaz as future stars, but while Juarez and Diaz have either fought for or won world titles (and in the case of Diaz retired) Scott has never taken a big step up against a solid contender.  He's still only 32.  Glazkov is coming off three very solid wins and has been in with the much better opposition and has a very solid amateur background having been part of the Ukranian Olympic team in 2008.

The co-feature is a welterweight fight between prospect Chris Algieri (15-0) and Jose Peralta Alejo (10-1).  Algieri has a solid win against Bayan Jargal.  Alejo is from the Dominican Republic and hasn't beaten anyone of note.

At 11:30pm UniMas has a card from California headlined by Chris Avalos (20-2) and Jose Luis Araiza (29-7-1) at super bantamweight.  Avalos is a solid fighter with wins over Jose Nieves (who is headlining the Telemundo card on Friday), Kabir Suleymanov, and Yenifel Vicente.  But, he's also lost to other prospects like Christopher Martin and Jonathan Romero.  Araiza is now 34 and started off his career with a loss and then 29 straight wins.  In his last 7 fights, he's got 6 losses and a draw.  This should be a win for Avalos but Araiza can usually go rounds.

The co-feature is a light heavyweight fight between Trevor McCumby (9-0) and Ricardo Campillo (7-5-1).  McCumby is undefeated but untested.  Campillo has been in with some solid young prospects, but has lost when stepping up.

Also a few notable non-televised fights:

In Mexico, former world champ Giovanni Segura (28-2-1) takes on Omar Salado (23-5-2).

On a separate card, another former bantamweight and featherweight world champion Jhonny Gonzalez (52-8) makes his comback after losing his title when he takes on Eusebio Osejo (21-12-2).

And, in Atlantic City, Patrick Majewski (20-1) takes on Jamaal Davis (14-8-1).  Davis has been on NBC Sports in the past and Majewski is a rated contender at middleweight by a few of the organizations.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:33 PM

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Ronda by round 1 armbar

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Posted: 2/23/2013 12:47 AM

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Going out on a "limb" there, eh?

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Ronda by round 1 armbar

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Posted: 2/23/2013 9:43 AM

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Lamont Peterson (DC; 31-1-1)was in beast mode last night, defeating Kendall Holt (New Jersey; 28-6) by TKO in the 8th on on a tremendous ESPN Friday Night Fights.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 9:43 AM

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While I like Rousey I don't know she'll beat Liz in the 1st round. Or at all. Carmouche brings something different to the table.

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Posted: 2/23/2013 12:05 PM

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Zhuge1 wrote: For anyone interested, here's a rundown of Saturday's televised boxing:

For anyone with WealthTV, there's a heavyweight fight on at 4pm from Liverpool, England featuring English prospect David Price (15-0) and two-time title challenger Tony "The Tiger" Thompson (36-3).  Price is a big guy at 6'8" and packs a solid punch having stopped four top British fighters in his last four fights.  Thompson is now 41 and coming off a title loss to Wladimir Klitschko.  He's past his prime, but is an awkward left-hander with solid boxing skills.

There is a 9pm card from Detroit televised on Showtime.

The main event is an IBF light middleweight title fight.  Cornelius Bundrage (32-4) defends against Ishe Smith (24-5).  Bundrage is 39 and has really improved in his career over the past couple of years as he began working with the late Emmanuel Steward.  In his last three fights, Bundrage has beaten Cory Spinks twice and also avenged an earlier defeat to Sechew Powell.  While Bundrage has looked good, he's been largely inactive as he has only had three fights in the past three years.  Smith is best known as a contestant on the first season of The Contender and originally came on to the scene as the chief sparring partner for Fernando Vargas.  Smith lost controversially in The Contender and has mismanaged his career since then, turning down good money fights because he felt they weren't for "enough" and then losing fights against better opponents by simply going through the motions during the fight and not being busy enough with his punches.

The co-feature is a middleweight fight between prospect J'Leon Love (14-0) and solid journeyman Derrick Findley (20-8).  Love is a solid prospect but has been only lightly tested.  Findley is a decent step-up for him and knocked out Ronald Hearns (son of "The Hitman" Thomas Hearns) in his last fight.

At 10pm, there's a card from Huntington, New York which features a heavyweight fight between two undefeated guys.  Malik Scott (35-0) takes on Vyacheslav Glazkov (14-0).  Scott was a notable prospect several years ago that was featured on Showtime several times alongside Rocky Juarez and Julio Diaz as future stars, but while Juarez and Diaz have either fought for or won world titles (and in the case of Diaz retired) Scott has never taken a big step up against a solid contender.  He's still only 32.  Glazkov is coming off three very solid wins and has been in with the much better opposition and has a very solid amateur background having been part of the Ukranian Olympic team in 2008.

The co-feature is a welterweight fight between prospect Chris Algieri (15-0) and Jose Peralta Alejo (10-1).  Algieri has a solid win against Bayan Jargal.  Alejo is from the Dominican Republic and hasn't beaten anyone of note.

At 11:30pm UniMas has a card from California headlined by Chris Avalos (20-2) and Jose Luis Araiza (29-7-1) at super bantamweight.  Avalos is a solid fighter with wins over Jose Nieves (who is headlining the Telemundo card on Friday), Kabir Suleymanov, and Yenifel Vicente.  But, he's also lost to other prospects like Christopher Martin and Jonathan Romero.  Araiza is now 34 and started off his career with a loss and then 29 straight wins.  In his last 7 fights, he's got 6 losses and a draw.  This should be a win for Avalos but Araiza can usually go rounds.

The co-feature is a light heavyweight fight between Trevor McCumby (9-0) and Ricardo Campillo (7-5-1).  McCumby is undefeated but untested.  Campillo has been in with some solid young prospects, but has lost when stepping up.

Also a few notable non-televised fights:

In Mexico, former world champ Giovanni Segura (28-2-1) takes on Omar Salado (23-5-2).

On a separate card, another former bantamweight and featherweight world champion Jhonny Gonzalez (52-8) makes his comback after losing his title when he takes on Eusebio Osejo (21-12-2).

And, in Atlantic City, Patrick Majewski (20-1) takes on Jamaal Davis (14-8-1).  Davis has been on NBC Sports in the past and Majewski is a rated contender at middleweight by a few of the organizations.
There is an under card on Showtime Extreme before the last two fights start on Showtime.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 1:20 PM

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Big 4 Country wrote: 
There is an under card on Showtime Extreme before the last two fights start on Showtime.
Are you sure?  I know that's the case March 2nd, but I don't think there's anything scheduled for tonight on Showtime Extreme.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 1:27 PM

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slickrick00 wrote: Lamont Peterson (DC; 31-1-1)was in beast mode last night, defeating Kendall Holt (New Jersey; 28-6) by TKO in the 8th on on a tremendous ESPN Friday Night Fights.
Very impressive performance by Peterson. 

On the undercard, Roman Morales (15-0) knocked out Jesus Antonio Hernandez (10-1-3) in the 5th.

From the Showtime card last night:
Tureano Johnson (14-0) won a unanimous decision over Willie Fortune (15-1).  All three judges had is 80-72.
And in a small upset, Alejandro Perez (17-3-1) defeated Art Hovhannisyan (15-1-2) by unanimous decision.  Scores were 96-93, 96-93, 95-94.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 5:26 PM

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From Liverpool today, Tony Thompson (37-3) knocked out British prospect David Price (15-1) in a heavyweight fight in round 2. Thompson landed a quick uppercut and a shot to the ear and although Price got up, he was on rubbery legs and could not continue.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 5:51 PM

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Zhuge1 wrote: From Liverpool today, Tony Thompson (37-3) knocked out British prospect David Price (15-1) in a heavyweight fight in round 2. Thompson landed a quick uppercut and a shot to the ear and although Price got up, he was on rubbery legs and could not continue.

Very impressive by Thompson. Called out Tyson Fury.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 11:18 PM

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Results from last night's boxing card from Florida (Televised on Telemundo):

Jose Nieves (22-2-3) defeated Danny Flores (14-3) by 9th round technical knockout.  Nieves started off slowly and Flores knocked him down and had him badly hurt in the third.  Nieves got on track by the 5th round and finally got in to the fight.  After landing some solid shots in the 8th that hurt Flores, he took him out in round 9 dropping him and then getting a referee stoppage on the follow up barrage.

In the co-feature, Yunier Dorticos (14-0) ended up with a tougher test than originally expected as his original opponent was replaced with late sub Willie Herring (14-13-3).  Dorticos, who has stopped all 13 of his previous opponents early, was obviously flustered by the tougher task.  He went low in the first two rounds, and then was deducted a point in round two after throwing an elbow on a break.  Dorticos is a big puncher, but also a rough fighter.  In addition to the low blows and elbows, he threw Herring to the canvas at least twice in round three, held and hit several times, and tended to push down on the back of Herring's neck in clenches.  Herring suffered a knee injury after the first throw-down in round 3 and could not continue for the 4th round, so Dorticos was a winner by TKO.
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Posted: 2/23/2013 11:58 PM

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Lyoto Machida is the most boring fighter in UFC history. I don't see how Dana White puts up with crap like that when he never tries to do anything. ever.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:14 AM

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Ronda "One-Trick" Rousey wins by armbar in the first round for the seventh straight time. If anyone ever figures out how to defend against her armbar - Carmouche almost did it - she's going to get her *** kicked.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:34 AM

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it's a pretty good trick.
Craig may not say much, but when it comes to giving people the middle finger, he's a real expert.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:51 AM

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lol somebodies mad

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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:31 AM

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It turned out to be a much better card than I expected, although the couple of fights I had the highest expectations for(Machida/Hendo and Schaub/Johnson) were pretty dull. Main event was big for WMMA but, again, it showcases how little talent there is. I personally don't think Carmouche was deserving of that shot. The only "tough" fights I can see left for Rousey are a rematch with Tate or the "probably will never happen" match with Cyborg. They have to scrounge up some talent somewhere or it's just going to be throwing overmatched opponents in the ring again and again.

Whoever beats Rousey is going to have to be bigger and stronger, with exceptional takedown defense. I maintain that Santos would beat the brakes off of Rousey.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:04 PM

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Cyborg was at the fight last night and it is rumored that she has agreed to cut to 135 to fight Rousey. We'll see.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:35 PM

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WMMA makes for a boring UFC event to me, cant see why anyone would pay to watch it
 
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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:44 PM

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AttilatheHoo wrote: it's a pretty good trick.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:00 PM

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wolfpack87 wrote: Cyborg was at the fight last night and it is rumored that she has agreed to cut to 135 to fight Rousey. We'll see.

She just signed a deal with Invicta, so I don't think you will see that for a year at least. I don't see her coming down to 135 nor do I think she should have to. Catchweight bout will be fine. Rousey is against a catchweight fight because she knows she will instantly be at a disadvantage.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:01 PM

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dunlow66 wrote: WMMA makes for a boring UFC event to me, cant see why anyone would pay to watch it

Eh. It isn't any more boring than the average GSP fight. It is one of the few women's sports that is watchable, IMO.
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PackBand88 wrote: Ronda "One-Trick" Rousey wins by armbar in the first round for the seventh straight time. If anyone ever figures out how to defend against her armbar - Carmouche almost did it - she's going to get her *** kicked.
Hanging on for dear life with both arms, while Rousey uses her whole body to pry your arms open is not "almost doing it".  The way you defend that position is not to get in that position.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:06 PM

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Ronda "One-Trick" Rousey wins by armbar in the first round for the seventh straight time. If anyone ever figures out how to defend against her armbar - Carmouche almost did it - she's going to get her *** kicked.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:07 PM

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Not so fast Anthony Pettis

“Jose Aldo came out and said there's no way in hell I'm fighting Pettis,” White revealed following UFC 157. “He's absolutely refusing to fight Pettis; he doesn't think he deserves the shot.

“André Pederneiras (Aldo's coach) was in England and sat down with me and Lorenzo (Fertitto) and said we don't think he deserves it,” White said. “Well, he might be the number one guy at 155 (pounds), but how does that make him the number one (at 145 pounds)?

“I wouldn't want to fight Pettis either,” White continued. “He's absolutely refusing to fight Pettis. The fight is on. He's going to fight Pettis or he's not going to like how this turns out.”

 
"Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority." 

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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:32 PM

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Results from last night's PPV event in Anaheim, California:

- 135 lbs.- 
"Rowdy" Ronda Rousey (California; 7-0) def. Liz Carmouche (California; 8-3) by Submission in the 1st
- 205 lbs.- Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida (Brazil; 19-3) def. Dan Henderson (California; 29-9) by Split Decision
- 135 lbs.- Urijah "The California Kid" Faber (California; 29-6) def. Ivan Menjivar (El Salvador; 25-10) by Submission in the 1st
- 170 lbs.- "Ruthless" Robbie Lawler (Iowa; 20-9) def. Josh Koscheck (Pennsylvania; 19-7) by TKO in the 1st
- 170 lbs.- Court McGee (Utah; 14-3) def. Josh Neer (Iowa; 33-13-1) by Unanimous Decision

Prelims on FX:
- HWT - Brendan Schaub (Colorado; 10-3) def. Lavar Johnson (California; 17-7) by Unanimous Decision
- 155 lbs.- Michael "Maverick" Chiesa (Washington; 9-0) def. Anton Kuivanen (Finland; 17-6) by Submission in the 2nd
- 145 lbs.- Dennis Bermudez (Pennsylvania; 11-3) def. Matt Grice (Oklahoma; 15-5) by Split Decision
- 155 lbs.- Sam Stout (Canada; 20-8-1) def. Caros Fodor (Washington; 7-3) by Split Decision
- 170 lbs.- Kenny Robertson (Illinois; 12-2) def. Brock Jardine (Utah; 9-3) by Submission in the 1st
- 170 lbs.- Neil Magny (Illinois; 8-2) vs. Jon Manley (Massachusetts; 7-3) by Unanimous Decision
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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:35 PM

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Last night's UFC event at the Honda Center in Anaheim drew 15,525 in attendance for a live gate of $1.4 million. That absolutely destroys the highest ever live gate for any combat sports event headlined by females. Expect some more interesting business related news in the coming weeks regarding last night's event.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 8:14 PM

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Well, I can understand Aldo's point of view. This appears to be more of Dana's pettiness coming out though. I don't know why he insists on blowing everything out of proportion. Big deal if it doesn't happen, I would rather see the Henderson vs. Pettis rematch anyway.

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Not so fast Anthony Pettis

“Jose Aldo came out and said there's no way in hell I'm fighting Pettis,” White revealed following UFC 157. “He's absolutely refusing to fight Pettis; he doesn't think he deserves the shot.

“André Pederneiras (Aldo's coach) was in England and sat down with me and Lorenzo (Fertitto) and said we don't think he deserves it,” White said. “Well, he might be the number one guy at 155 (pounds), but how does that make him the number one (at 145 pounds)?

“I wouldn't want to fight Pettis either,” White continued. “He's absolutely refusing to fight Pettis. The fight is on. He's going to fight Pettis or he's not going to like how this turns out.”



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