wolfpack87 wrote:

BlackRazor wrote:

slickrick00 wrote: Results from Australia:

- 160 lbs.- Daniel "Real Deal" Geale (Australia; 29-1) def. Anthony "The Man" Mundine (Australia; 44-5) by Unanimous Decision, avengin his only professional loss.

yeah, Kimbo Slice had a 2nd round KO on that card too. Also heard Rampage Jackson is done with MMA but might try boxing next?

It's interesting, now there's a trend where ex boxers try MMA & MMA try boxing.

I saw the Kimbo fight. It had a crazy ending. The dude that was fighting Kimbo had him rocked in the first round up against the ropes but couldn't get the finish. Kimbo rocked him a couple times, but got the KO win on a monster punch to the ribcage, the other guy just couldn't get up, I'd like to know how many ribs it broke or what happened, he was in serious pain. 

I think MMA guys can have a lot more success in boxing than vice versa. James Toney got humiliated in his one and only fight. Though I would love to see a quick cat like Mayweather give it a shot and see what he could do.

Some of the most punishing KO's you will see come from body punches.  If put in the right place; like when B. Hopkins stopped De La Hoya, it can leave a guy writhing in pain in the ring.

Three televised boxing shows this weekend for those interested.

On Friday night, ESPN2's Friday Night Fights starts at 9pm from Chicago and features an interesting main event between Carlos Molina (20-5-2) and Cory Spinks (39-7) at junior middleweight.  Molina is best known for losing some questionable decisions in fights where he's stepped up against well-known fighters.  He's drew with and lost to Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. in two fights most thought he won; he was disqualified in a fight against James Kirkland that he was winning when his cornerman accidentally entered the ring a few seconds early; and he dropped a close decision to Mike Alvarado; and he got a draw against Erislandy Lara that was a bit ridiculous.  Spinks, son of Leon Spinks, is a former undisputed welterweight champion and two-time junior middleweight champ.  He looked to be on the downside of his career when he was stopped by Cornelius Bundradge three fights ago when he lost his title, but he rebounded last time with a very good win over Sechew Powell to set this fight up.  Molina-Spinks is an eliminator for the #2 spot in the IBF.

The co-feature is welterweight fight between Antwone Smith (22-4-1) and Jose Luis Castillo (64-11-1).  Smith was a hot prospect at one point having beaten several other undefeated prospects and solid fighters.  But his career was derailed when he went through a period of getting stopped by journeyman Lanardo Tyner on Showtime; dropping a fight against former champ Kermit Cintron; and then losing a fight to fringe contender Roberto Garcia.  He got his best win last time out when he beat undefeated prospect Ronald Cruz by split decision.  Castillo is a former long time champ at lightweight and junior welterweight who is probably best known for giving Floyd Mayweather one of the toughest fights of his career -- a fight that many thought Castillo deserved the decision in.  He's now 39 and has battled weight issues in recent year.  Three fights ago, he was in with Jorge Paez Jr. (who was on Azteca America last weekend).  In his prime he would have knocked Paez out, but he ended up losing a unanimous decision.  He got his career back on track to some degree in his last appearance when he beat Ivan Popoca, a fairly untested fighter with a bloated record.


Saturday night, Fox Sports has a live card starting at 11pm from Las Vegas.  The main event is Frankie Gomez (14-0) versus Lanard Lane (13-2) at welterweight.  Gomez is a fairly untested prospect who was featured on TeleFutura back in November.  Lane has been in with much better opposition and has fought on Fox and Showtime (against Mike Dallas Jr. who was on Showtime this past weekend) in the past.  He'll definitely be the biggest test of Gomez's career.

The co-feature is Mickey Bey Jr. (18-0-1)  and Robert Rodriguez (7-2).  So far, Bey has been more suspect that prospect.  He got a dubious draw against Jose Hernandez (who pulled off an upset last weekend on FNF) and had a significant struggle against aged journeyman Hector Velazquez in a fight where he was dropped.  Rodriguez has lost 2 of his last 3 and has been in with poor opposition.  Should be a decision win for Bey.  Also on the card, Joseph Diaz (1-0), a 2012 US Olympian has his second career fight.

Also, Saturday night at midnight, UniMas (which is what Telefutura is now known as) has a card starting at midnight from McAllen, Texas.  The main event is a lightweight fight between Jose Felix Jr. (22-0-1) and Gerardo Robles (16-10).  Felix Jr. stepped up against solid opponents in his last two fights winning against Luis Cruz and Meachor Major.  Robles had a lot of early career losses, but has been on a roll of late.  In his last fight, he pulled the upset over longtime contender Roger "Speedy" Gonzalez.  The co-feature looks to be Casey Ramos (16-0) against Hardy Paredes (15-11).  This is actually an easy touch for Ramos who has stepped in with solid opponents his last few fights.

Bellator tonight live on Spike TV. Lightweight quarterfinals

jaybird80 wrote:

wolfpack87 wrote:

BlackRazor wrote:

slickrick00 wrote: Results from Australia:

- 160 lbs.- Daniel "Real Deal" Geale (Australia; 29-1) def. Anthony "The Man" Mundine (Australia; 44-5) by Unanimous Decision, avengin his only professional loss.

yeah, Kimbo Slice had a 2nd round KO on that card too. Also heard Rampage Jackson is done with MMA but might try boxing next?

It's interesting, now there's a trend where ex boxers try MMA & MMA try boxing.

I saw the Kimbo fight. It had a crazy ending. The dude that was fighting Kimbo had him rocked in the first round up against the ropes but couldn't get the finish. Kimbo rocked him a couple times, but got the KO win on a monster punch to the ribcage, the other guy just couldn't get up, I'd like to know how many ribs it broke or what happened, he was in serious pain. 

I think MMA guys can have a lot more success in boxing than vice versa. James Toney got humiliated in his one and only fight. Though I would love to see a quick cat like Mayweather give it a shot and see what he could do.

Some of the most punishing KO's you will see come from body punches.  If put in the right place; like when B. Hopkins stopped De La Hoya, it can leave a guy writhing in pain in the ring.

There are some MMA fighters that are primarily stand up fighters who get exposed for their lack of ground game (seems to be more common with the old school single discipline fighters).  If they have good take down defense and can keep the fight standing they can often win.  If not they will often lose.  For these stand up fighters a transition into boxing might be a good idea (like Kimbo).  Most boxers don't have the take down defense or ground game for MMA and will just get taken down and beaten (like Tony).

pack1214 wrote:

jaybird80 wrote:

wolfpack87 wrote:

BlackRazor wrote:

slickrick00 wrote: Results from Australia:

- 160 lbs.- Daniel "Real Deal" Geale (Australia; 29-1) def. Anthony "The Man" Mundine (Australia; 44-5) by Unanimous Decision, avengin his only professional loss.

yeah, Kimbo Slice had a 2nd round KO on that card too. Also heard Rampage Jackson is done with MMA but might try boxing next?

It's interesting, now there's a trend where ex boxers try MMA & MMA try boxing.

I saw the Kimbo fight. It had a crazy ending. The dude that was fighting Kimbo had him rocked in the first round up against the ropes but couldn't get the finish. Kimbo rocked him a couple times, but got the KO win on a monster punch to the ribcage, the other guy just couldn't get up, I'd like to know how many ribs it broke or what happened, he was in serious pain. 

I think MMA guys can have a lot more success in boxing than vice versa. James Toney got humiliated in his one and only fight. Though I would love to see a quick cat like Mayweather give it a shot and see what he could do.

Some of the most punishing KO's you will see come from body punches.  If put in the right place; like when B. Hopkins stopped De La Hoya, it can leave a guy writhing in pain in the ring.

There are some MMA fighters that are primarily stand up fighters who get exposed for their lack of ground game (seems to be more common with the old school single discipline fighters).  If they have good take down defense and can keep the fight standing they can often win.  If not they will often lose.  For these stand up fighters a transition into boxing might be a good idea (like Kimbo).  Most boxers don't have the take down defense or ground game for MMA and will just get taken down and beaten (like Tony).

Floyd Mayweather has had some corssover success.  He beat the Big Show at one of WWE's Wrestlemania cards!!!

Bellator show on SPIKE TV last night drew an average audience of 705,000 over the course of the two hour telecast.

after that BBall game today, I am ready for some good fights tonight. Anybody else out there watching UFC 156?

watching. should be a great night of fights.

Little guys bring a lot of action, glad UFC has this new weight class. Man these guys are quick.

HAHAHA bet Overeem has some respect for Silva now!!!

Heck of a Knockout. I didnt think Silva could do that anymore.

dunlow66 wrote: after that BBall game today, I am ready for some good fights tonight. Anybody else out there watching UFC 156?

amen, 1 of the reasons I like boxing!

Brazilian domination so far. Rashard Evans looks like he is on the downhill slide, did not look for the takedown very often, just wanted to play patty cake. Might have just seen Overeem and Evans(at 185) blow title shots tonight. Very disappointed in "Suga".

Good card. The effort/strategy of Evans was the only thing I fond disappointing. Nice show.

This should put all the talk of Evans vs. Anderson Silva to rest. He can't be an old as **** Noguiera, sure ain't gonna touch Silva.

Results from last night's UFC event at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, NV on Pay-Per-View (top ten world ranked fighters indicated in bold):

- 145 lbs.- Jose "Junior" Aldo (Brazil; 22-1) def. Frankie "The Answer" Edgar (New Jersey; 15-4-1) *World featherweight title fight
- 205 lbs.- Antonio Rodrigo "Minotoro" Nogueira (Brazil; 21-5) def. "Sugar" Rashad Evans (New York; 22-3-1) by Unanimous Decision
- HWT - Antonio "Bigfoot" Silva (Brazil; 18-4) def. Alistair Overeem (Netherlands; 36-12-1) by KO in the 3rd
- 170 lbs.- Demian Maia (Brazil; 18-4) def. Jon Fitch (Indiana; 27-5-1) by Unanimous Decision
- 125 lbs.- Joseph Benavidez (Texas; 17-3) def. Ian McCall (California; 11-4-1) by Unanimous Decision

Prelims free on FX:
- 155 lbs.- Evan Dunham (Oregon; 14-3) def. Gleison Tibau (Brazil; 35-9) by Split Decision
- 170 lbs.- Tyron "The Chosen One" Woodley (Missouri; 11-1) def. Jay Hieron (New York; 23-7) by KO in the 1st
- 135 lbs.- Dustin Kimura (Hawaii; 10-0) def. Chico Camus (California; 12-4) by Submission in the 3rd
- 135 lbs.- Francisco Rivera (9-2) def. Edwin "El Feroz" Figueroa (Texas; 9-2) by TKO in the 2nd
- 155 lbs.- Bobby Green (California; 20-5) def. Jacob Volkmann (Minnesota; 15-4) by Submission in the 3rd
- 155 lbs.- Issac Vallie-Flagg (New Mexico; 14-3-1) def. Yves Edwards (Texas; 42-19-1) by Split Decision

Attendance for last night's UFC event at the Mandalay Bay Events Center was 10,275 for a live gate of $2,437,000.

Sounds like Aldo will defend his title against Anthony Pettis next. Should be a great fight, Pettis will be moving down a weight class though.

wolfpack87 wrote: Sounds like Aldo will defend his title against Anthony Pettis next. Should be a great fight, Pettis will be moving down a weight class though.

That's a very, very interesting fight.

For those that follow the business side of either sport, below is a breakdown of the pay-per-view numbers for 2012 and some of the television numbers.

PPV Figures for 2012:
Mayweather vs. Cotto                1,500,000 buys (Boxing)
Pacquiao vs. Marquez                 1,150,000 buys (Boxing)
Silva vs. Sonnen                        925,000 buys (MMA)
Pacquiao vs. Brad ley                  900,000 buys (Boxing)
Jones vs. Evans                         700,000 buys (MMA)
St. Pierre vs. Condit                    690,000 buys (MMA)
Dos Santos vs. Velasquez            575,000 buys (MMA)
Dos Santos vs. Mir                      570,000 buys (MMA)
Martinez vs. Chavez Jr.                475,000 buys (Boxing)
Jones vs. Belfort                         455,000 buys (MMA)
Diaz vs. Condit                           400,000 buys (MMA)
Silva vs. Bonnar                          375,000 buys (MMA)
Edgar vs. Henderson                    375,000 buys (MMA)
Pegado vs. Faber                        235,000 buys (MMA)
Aldo vs. Mendes                          225,000 buys (MMA)
Henderson vs. Edgar                    190,000 buys (MMA)
Franklin vs. W. Silva                     140,000 buys (MMA)

Top 10 Events with highest average television viewership in 2012:
Evans vs. Davis (FOX)                        4,700,000 avg. viewers (MMA)
Henderson vs. Diaz (FOX)                   4,400,000 avg. viewers (MMA)
Rua vs. Vera (FOX)                            2,440,000 avg. viewers (MMA)
Diaz vs. Miller (FOX)                           2,420,000 avg. viewers (MMA)
Chavez Jr. vs. Rubio (HBO)                  1,900,000 avg. viewers (Boxing)
UFC 148 Prelims (FX)                          1,800,000 avg. viewers (MMA)
Santa Cruz vs. Guevara (CBS)              1,800,000 avg. viewers (Boxing)
UFC 145 Preliims (FX)                          1,600,000 avg. viewers (MMA)
Adamek vs. Cunningham (NBC)              1,600,000 avg. viewers (Boxing)
Dawson vs. Hopkins (HBO)                    1,600,000 avg. viewers (Boxing)

- Incredible knockout win on The Ultimate Fighter last night on FX. Uriah Hall (New York; 7-2) knocked out Adam Cella (Missouri; 4-0) with a devastating kick.

- The UFC prelims last Saturday on FX drew an average audience size of 1.9 million over the two hour broadcast. That ties the record for largest audience for the UFC on FX. It, along with a showing of Iron Man 2 following the prelims, also catapulted FX to beat all channels on television in primetime (including network channels) in males 18-49. Incredible numbers for them.

Thought Mayweather was going to fight "The Ghost" Guerrero or Canelo Alvarez next and now I hear he wants to fight Devon Alexander, I hope that is a joke or negotiation tactic. Either Guerrero or Alvarez would have been an interesting fight, I have no desire to watch Mayweather vs Alexander.

wolfpack87 wrote: Sounds like Aldo will defend his title against Anthony Pettis next. Should be a great fight, Pettis will be moving down a weight class though.

Fight is made, will be Aug 3 at a yet to be determined location

dunlow66 wrote: Thought Mayweather was going to fight "The Ghost" Guerrero or Canelo Alvarez next and now I hear he wants to fight Devon Alexander, I hope that is a joke or negotiation tactic. Either Guerrero or Alvarez would have been an interesting fight, I have no desire to watch Mayweather vs Alexander.

yeah & you wonder if Devon's bicep injury is real or he just didn't want to risk his shot @ Floyd by fighting the Brit Kell Brook later this month?

George Hickman (Durham Riverside HS) is fighting on the Bellator card tomorrow night

tmacerus wrote: George Hickman (Durham Riverside HS) is fighting on the Bellator card tomorrow night

George is a talented kid. I hope to see him do well.

If Mayweather's only fight in 2013 is Alexander, I hope he gets run over by a Las Vegas bus while he crosses the street to lay three mil on the Knicks against the Bulls.

BlackRazor wrote:

dunlow66 wrote: Thought Mayweather was going to fight "The Ghost" Guerrero or Canelo Alvarez next and now I hear he wants to fight Devon Alexander, I hope that is a joke or negotiation tactic. Either Guerrero or Alvarez would have been an interesting fight, I have no desire to watch Mayweather vs Alexander.

yeah & you wonder if Devon's bicep injury is real or he just didn't want to risk his shot @ Floyd by fighting the Brit Kell Brook later this month?

LOL!

Feeling better?

LOL. Very interesting rumor circulating that the holdup on fight announcement is that Guerrero is still the frontrunner but he's asking for "too much money".

OldEastHeel wrote: If Mayweather's only fight in 2013 is Alexander, I hope he gets run over by a Las Vegas bus while he crosses the street to lay three mil on the Knicks against the Bulls.

BlackRazor wrote:

dunlow66 wrote: Thought Mayweather was going to fight "The Ghost" Guerrero or Canelo Alvarez next and now I hear he wants to fight Devon Alexander, I hope that is a joke or negotiation tactic. Either Guerrero or Alvarez would have been an interesting fight, I have no desire to watch Mayweather vs Alexander.

yeah & you wonder if Devon's bicep injury is real or he just didn't want to risk his shot @ Floyd by fighting the Brit Kell Brook later this month?

North Carolina fighter George Hickman moved to (5-1) at last night's Bellator event, avenging his only professional loss.

Very impressive win for Alexander Shlemenko last night. He's got to be the top Russian fighter in the world right now, at least IMO. Won't be long until UFC comes knocking at his door.

Boxing tonight at 9pm on ESPN2's Friday Night Fights. The main event is a welterweight fight between Kevin Bizier (19-0) and former lightweight champion Nate Campbell (36-9-1). Bizier has an impressive record so far and has been moved quite well. He's been matched up against some of the usual durable suspects early in his career (like Edgar Ruiz and Mauro Lucero) and also has some wins over slightly higher level opponents like Lanardo Tyner and Christian Bladt. Campbell represents the biggest test for him to date, but Nate is past his prime (he's 40) and this is at a weight well above his successful days at 130 and 135 pounds. That said, Campbell is a solid puncher and did pull off two small upsets last year when most thought he was past it.

The co-feature is Tyler Asselstine (12-0) versus Baha Laham (10-0-1) at lightweight. Asselstine has faced the better opposition, but Laham has the more extensive amateur background (although Asselstine was also a solid amateur fighter).

A fight featuring former jr. middleweight champion Joachim Alcine was scrapped when his opponent came in too heavy.

slickrick00 wrote: North Carolina fighter George Hickman moved to (5-1) at last night's Bellator event, avenging his only professional loss.

First round submission by rear naked choke.  The guy caught George in the opening seconds of their first fight so glad to see him avenge the loss. Hickman looked good.  The training with Stann's team down in ATL is paying off.

Been a good couple months for former Riverside wrestlers.  Had Abel Trujillo's win in the UFC and now Hickman's in Bellator.

Results from last night's ESPN2 Friday Night Fight card:

Kevin Bizier (20-0) defeated 40 year old former champ Nate Campbell (36-10-1) by 8th round stoppage when Campbell could not continue due to a back injury. Surprisingly, Campbell announced after the fight he would continue with his career.

Also, Baha Laham (11-0-1) won a majority decision over Tyler Asselstine (12-1) by scores of 95-95, 96-94, and 96-95.

Only one televised boxing card on tonight. Unfortunately, it's a card that has sort of fallen apart with the originally scheduled fights falling apart and many of the replacements also pulling out. The card is televised live from Mexico City at 10pm on TV Azteca.

The main event is now a super bantamweight fight between Enrique Bernache (20-4) and Jonathan Lecona Ramos (11-12-2). Bernache was originally brought in as the opponent for former champion Christian Mijares, but Mijares pulled out. Another opponent was then lined up to fill in for Mijares, but he also fell out. Ramos is a very late sub. Bernache is a journeyman fighter who typically falls short when he steps up in competition (which made him a good test for Mijares). Ramos is a rugged journeyman who usually is game but falls short against good opponents. These two have fought once before with Bernache winning a split decision in a six round fight.

The co-feature is now a junior middleweight fight between Daniel Sandoval (30-2) and Martin Avila (14-10). Sandoval is a 21 year old prospect who has stayed very active after turning pro at 18. He's bounced between welterweight and super middleweight and got a very big win last year against Michel Rosales. Avila is a late sub for Miguel Callist, a former world title challenger. Avila is not a terribly good journeyman as he's been stopped a number of times. He's best known for fighting Austin Trout several years back.

Just curious to see if anyone else is planning to come to the Bellator event in Charlotte this Thursday night. I'll be there.

slickrick00 wrote: Just curious to see if anyone else is planning to come to the Bellator event in Charlotte this Thursday night. I'll be there.

I'd be there if it wasn't Valentine's Day. No chance in hell I talk the lady into going to a MMA event lol.

wolfpack87 wrote:

slickrick00 wrote: Just curious to see if anyone else is planning to come to the Bellator event in Charlotte this Thursday night. I'll be there.

I'd be there if it wasn't Valentine's Day. No chance in hell I talk the lady into going to a MMA event lol.

LOL....I don't blame you. Our tradition is to usually go out on Friday or Saturday, regardless of when Valentine's Day is (to avoid the crowds on the 14th). So we're celebrating the next night. I figure attendance for the fight will be sparse, though, due to Valentine's Day.

Results from last night's Azteca card from Mexico City:

Jonathan Lecona Ramos (12-12-2) won a unanimous decision over Enrique Bernache (20-5) in a minor upset. Scores were 96-95, 97-93, 98-92. Both guys butted heads a number of times resulting in a nasty swelling on Bernaches temple in the 9th round.

Daniel Sandoval (31-2) scored his 30th knockout over Martin Avila (14-11) with a second round stoppage.

In another non-televised card from Sonora, Mexico, former super featherweight and lightweight champion Humberto Soto (60-8-2) defeated Silverio Ortiz (26-14).

Below is the Bellator event Thursday in Charlotte. A few of the local guys on the undercard have interesting stories (top ten world ranked fighters indicated in bold):

- 135 lbs.- Eduardo Dantas (Brazil; 14-3) vs. Marcos Galvao (Brazil; 13-5-1)
- 185 lbs.- Mikkel Parlo (Denmark; 9-0) vs. Sultan Aliev (Russia; 8-0)
- 185 lbs.- Andreas Spang (Sweden; 8-2) vs. Doug "Rhino" Marshall (California; 15-6)
- 185 lbs.- Norman Paraisy (France; 10-2) vs. Brett Cooper (California; 17-7)
- 185 lbs.- Dan "Cosmo" Cramer (Connecticut; 9-3) vs. Brian "The Professional Predator" Rogers (Ohio; 10-4)
- 135 lbs.- Mike Maldonado (Oklahoma; 3-0) vs. Tim "The Terror" Goodwin (South Carolina; 7-3)
- 170 lbs.- Chris Mierzwiak (Ohio; 4-2) vs. Johny "Buck Nasty" Buck (North Carolina; 11-8)
- 205 lbs.- Kyle Bolt (California; 6-2) vs. Joseph Pacheco (North Carolina; 4-0)
- 205 lbs.- Brennan "The Irish Bad Boy" Ward (Connecticut; 5-0) vs. Aaron Johnson (Georgia; 11-10)
- HWT - David Mejia (California; 3-0) vs. Mont McMullens (North Carolina; 2-3)

This Saturday's UFC event, from the Wembley Arena in London, England on FUEL TV (top ten world ranked fighters indicated in bold):

- 135 lbs.- Renan "Barao" Pegado (Brazil; 31-1) vs. Michael "Mayday" McDonald (California; 15-1) *Interim Bantamweight world title fight
- 145 lbs.- Dustin Poirier (Louisiana; 13-2) vs. Kevin "Cub" Swanson (California; 18-5)
- 205 lbs.- Jimmi "Poster Boy" Manuwa (U.K.; 12-0) vs. Cyrille "The Snake" Diabate (France; 19-8-1)
- 170 lbs.- Gunnar Nelson (Iceland; 10-0-1) vs. Jorge Santiago (Brazil; 25-10)
- 205 lbs.- Ryan Jimmo (Canada; 17-1) vs. James Te Huna (New Zealand; 17-5)
- 155 lbs.- Paul Sass (U.K.; 13-1) vs. Danny Castillo (California; 14-5)
- 185 lbs.- Stanislav Nedkov (Bulgaria; 12-0) vs. Tom Watson (U.K.; 15-5)
- 170 lbs.- Che Mills (U.K.; 15-5) vs. Matt Riddle (Pennsylvania; 7-3)
- 155 lbs.- Terry Etim (U.K.; 15-4) vs. Renee Forte (Brazil; 7-2)
- 145 lbs.- Josh Grispi (Massachusetts; 14-4) vs. Andy Ogle (U.K.; 8-2)
- 135 lbs.- Motonobu Tezuka (Japan; 19-5-4) vs. Vaughn Lee (U.K.; 12-8-1)
- 125 lbs.- Phil Harris (U.K.; 21-10) vs. Ulysses Gomez (Nevada; 9-3)