UndertheLongineClock wrote:

ArmandJ wrote: . I have never seen anything like it.

Be thankful you didn't watch the second half last year at Duke.

DiverDownBrian wrote: "The final minute of regulation of Kansas' 108-96 overtime victory over Iowa State on Monday is under review by the Big 12 Conference, the conference's coordinator of officials told ESPN.com Monday night.

At issue was a block or charge call that wasn't made when Elijah Johnson drove inside as Kansas trailed 90-88 with five seconds remaining. Iowa State's Georges Niang appeared to have his feet set, but no call was made as Johnson made contact with Niang."

UndertheLongineClock wrote:

ArmandJ wrote: . I have never seen anything like it.

Be thankful you didn't watch the second half last year at Duke.

packfanstk wrote: Iowa State was jobbed. Plain and simple. I was watching and absolutely could not believe how blatantly obvious the game was being manipulated by the zebras. And Bill Self's interview after the game was such bulldurham. He should have been man enough to at least say, "We got the benefit of some funny calls there at the end of regulation." Big 12 to investigate? Bull. The Big 12 should be investigated. Everyone's starting to copy Swofford's recipe for trying to make sure their conference has at least one number one seed. Money has made crooks of them all.

RowanWolf wrote: Big XII to investigate? That's rich. Who sent the officials out there with marching orders to begin with? Surprised they didn't use the word 'review' instead of 'investigate'. I've said it in the Cheater threads, it's time for Congress to get involved and truly investigate the NCAA and ESPN's relationship with college athletics. It's getting to be just slightly less obvious than when organized crime was running college athletics back in the '50s/early '60s.

fatherof3wolfpackers wrote: Roger Ayers was NOT one of the officials last night.

I came to the conclusion several years ago that college basketball is FIXED in some instances.  The NCAA has a vested interest in keeping teams like Kansas, unc and dook at the top, so they have instructed the officials to make close and critical calls in favor of them.  The officials are also instructed to do things like give the best player on the other team 2 or 3 ticky-tack fouls in the first half so he will have to sit.  Then they even the # of fouls out during meaningless points in the game so things do not appear so one sided.  It is a scam and an embarassment to the NCAA and college basketball in general.

The fix is in in college basketball.  Accept it.  This is why I hardly watch anymore.  Watching some of these games has become like watching professional wrestling.

It's all about TV revenue and merchandise sales to the NCAA.

wolfgar wrote: vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd ed&v=fWkLlGjNNO0

packfanstk wrote: Iowa State was jobbed. Plain and simple. I was watching and absolutely could not believe how blatantly obvious the game was being manipulated by the zebras. And Bill Self's interview after the game was such bulldurham. He should have been man enough to at least say, "We got the benefit of some funny calls there at the end of regulation." Big 12 to investigate? Bull. The Big 12 should be investigated. Everyone's starting to copy Swofford's recipe for trying to make sure their conference has at least one number one seed. Money has made crooks of them all.

It really reminded me of our game against the Baby Blues in the ACC Tournament Semis last year. Obvious no-call on the charge against Marshall took away a game we really could have won.

Those losses make you sick. I feel for Iowa State.

TrialDude wrote:

UndertheLongineClock wrote:

ArmandJ wrote: . I have never seen anything like it.

Be thankful you didn't watch the second half last year at Duke.

Was thinking that every since the Withey wrong foul assessment.  Absolutely horrendous end of game officiating.

sumerelcnu wrote: So why do we give 2 ***** about a missed call in a Big 12 game that doesn't affect us one bit?

Oh that's right we need to add more credence to the fact that we never actually lose a game but the refs have screwed us out of every ******* one of them.

For ***** sake, get over it, we have to PLAY better.

goturbackpack66 wrote: I am in no way defending what went on tonight, but Kansas took advantage of the late breaks they got, and made Iowa St. pay. That's the difference with the great teams and the mediocre. This game should have never gone to OT, but once it did, as much as I hate to say it. Kansas was better. Let alone the guy that couldn't miss near the end. Oh yes, I was rooting for Iowa St. Hey, they're pretty darn good. Should be one hell of a NCAAT this year. A lot of teams that could upset top seeds. Last year Kentucky, was a prohibitive favorite.

DiverDownBrian wrote: "The final minute of regulation of Kansas' 108-96 overtime victory over Iowa State on Monday is under review by the Big 12 Conference, the conference's coordinator of officials told ESPN.com Monday night.

At issue was a block or charge call that wasn't made when Elijah Johnson drove inside as Kansas trailed 90-88 with five seconds remaining. Iowa State's Georges Niang appeared to have his feet set, but no call was made as Johnson made contact with Niang."

PretzelPack wrote:

sumerelcnu wrote: So why do we give 2 ***** about a missed call in a Big 12 game that doesn't affect us one bit?

Oh that's right we need to add more credence to the fact that we never actually lose a game but the refs have screwed us out of every ******* one of them.

For ***** sake, get over it, we have to PLAY better.

How come some people find it necessary to come on here and tell others what they should or shouldn't think. People took notice of this and have comments on it. The title of this thread is clear. If people have a problem with this thread/subject, then they can always choose to ignore it.

I personally give two *****, because games such as these shape seeding in the NCAA tournament. What if this loss keeps Iowa State from making it into the dance? How much money could this end up costing ISU? What about the supporters of ISU? If the teams like Kansas/Duke/uncch always get the calls and benefits, then why should the rest of us even watch the games or care? And people are getting tired of this ****, whether it is blatant corruption or incompetence in the officiating of these games.

sumerelcnu wrote:

PretzelPack wrote:

sumerelcnu wrote: So why do we give 2 ***** about a missed call in a Big 12 game that doesn't affect us one bit?

Oh that's right we need to add more credence to the fact that we never actually lose a game but the refs have screwed us out of every ******* one of them.

For ***** sake, get over it, we have to PLAY better.

How come some people find it necessary to come on here and tell others what they should or shouldn't think. People took notice of this and have comments on it. The title of this thread is clear. If people have a problem with this thread/subject, then they can always choose to ignore it.

I personally give two *****, because games such as these shape seeding in the NCAA tournament. What if this loss keeps Iowa State from making it into the dance? How much money could this end up costing ISU? What about the supporters of ISU? If the teams like Kansas/Duke/uncch always get the calls and benefits, then why should the rest of us even watch the games or care? And people are getting tired of this ****, whether it is blatant corruption or incompetence in the officiating of these games.

dude, seriously take off the tin foil hat. I doubt very seriously that had ISU won it would have changed their seeding that much, Kansas may move from a 2 to a 3 at most. Jesus Christ, we have some of the most deranged fans on earth, hell I could easily see one of our fans doing what the ISU fan attempted to do, we are that ******* bad.

sumerelcnu wrote:

PretzelPack wrote:

sumerelcnu wrote: So why do we give 2 ***** about a missed call in a Big 12 game that doesn't affect us one bit?

Oh that's right we need to add more credence to the fact that we never actually lose a game but the refs have screwed us out of every ******* one of them.

For ***** sake, get over it, we have to PLAY better.

How come some people find it necessary to come on here and tell others what they should or shouldn't think. People took notice of this and have comments on it. The title of this thread is clear. If people have a problem with this thread/subject, then they can always choose to ignore it.

I personally give two *****, because games such as these shape seeding in the NCAA tournament. What if this loss keeps Iowa State from making it into the dance? How much money could this end up costing ISU? What about the supporters of ISU? If the teams like Kansas/Duke/uncch always get the calls and benefits, then why should the rest of us even watch the games or care? And people are getting tired of this ****, whether it is blatant corruption or incompetence in the officiating of these games.

dude, seriously take off the tin foil hat. I doubt very seriously that had ISU won it would have changed their seeding that much, Kansas may move from a 2 to a 3 at most. Jesus Christ, we have some of the most deranged fans on earth, hell I could easily see one of our fans doing what the ISU fan attempted to do, we are that ******* bad.

hunwolf wrote:

sumerelcnu wrote:

PretzelPack wrote:

sumerelcnu wrote: So why do we give 2 ***** about a missed call in a Big 12 game that doesn't affect us one bit?

Oh that's right we need to add more credence to the fact that we never actually lose a game but the refs have screwed us out of every ******* one of them.

For ***** sake, get over it, we have to PLAY better.

How come some people find it necessary to come on here and tell others what they should or shouldn't think. People took notice of this and have comments on it. The title of this thread is clear. If people have a problem with this thread/subject, then they can always choose to ignore it.

I personally give two *****, because games such as these shape seeding in the NCAA tournament. What if this loss keeps Iowa State from making it into the dance? How much money could this end up costing ISU? What about the supporters of ISU? If the teams like Kansas/Duke/uncch always get the calls and benefits, then why should the rest of us even watch the games or care? And people are getting tired of this ****, whether it is blatant corruption or incompetence in the officiating of these games.

dude, seriously take off the tin foil hat. I doubt very seriously that had ISU won it would have changed their seeding that much, Kansas may move from a 2 to a 3 at most. Jesus Christ, we have some of the most deranged fans on earth, hell I could easily see one of our fans doing what the ISU fan attempted to do, we are that ******* bad.

ISU is in real danger of not making the tourney. Look at their record and resume.

hunwolf wrote:

sumerelcnu wrote:

PretzelPack wrote:

sumerelcnu wrote: So why do we give 2 ***** about a missed call in a Big 12 game that doesn't affect us one bit?

Oh that's right we need to add more credence to the fact that we never actually lose a game but the refs have screwed us out of every ******* one of them.

For ***** sake, get over it, we have to PLAY better.

How come some people find it necessary to come on here and tell others what they should or shouldn't think. People took notice of this and have comments on it. The title of this thread is clear. If people have a problem with this thread/subject, then they can always choose to ignore it.

I personally give two *****, because games such as these shape seeding in the NCAA tournament. What if this loss keeps Iowa State from making it into the dance? How much money could this end up costing ISU? What about the supporters of ISU? If the teams like Kansas/Duke/uncch always get the calls and benefits, then why should the rest of us even watch the games or care? And people are getting tired of this ****, whether it is blatant corruption or incompetence in the officiating of these games.

dude, seriously take off the tin foil hat. I doubt very seriously that had ISU won it would have changed their seeding that much, Kansas may move from a 2 to a 3 at most. Jesus Christ, we have some of the most deranged fans on earth, hell I could easily see one of our fans doing what the ISU fan attempted to do, we are that ******* bad.

ISU is in real danger of not making the tourney. Look at their record and resume.

sumerelcnu wrote:

hunwolf wrote:

sumerelcnu wrote:

PretzelPack wrote:

sumerelcnu wrote: So why do we give 2 ***** about a missed call in a Big 12 game that doesn't affect us one bit?

Oh that's right we need to add more credence to the fact that we never actually lose a game but the refs have screwed us out of every ******* one of them.

For ***** sake, get over it, we have to PLAY better.

How come some people find it necessary to come on here and tell others what they should or shouldn't think. People took notice of this and have comments on it. The title of this thread is clear. If people have a problem with this thread/subject, then they can always choose to ignore it.

I personally give two *****, because games such as these shape seeding in the NCAA tournament. What if this loss keeps Iowa State from making it into the dance? How much money could this end up costing ISU? What about the supporters of ISU? If the teams like Kansas/Duke/uncch always get the calls and benefits, then why should the rest of us even watch the games or care? And people are getting tired of this ****, whether it is blatant corruption or incompetence in the officiating of these games.

dude, seriously take off the tin foil hat. I doubt very seriously that had ISU won it would have changed their seeding that much, Kansas may move from a 2 to a 3 at most. Jesus Christ, we have some of the most deranged fans on earth, hell I could easily see one of our fans doing what the ISU fan attempted to do, we are that ******* bad.

ISU is in real danger of not making the tourney. Look at their record and resume.

RPI of 53 and BPI of 40 the are 9-6 with a bad loss to Texas and wins over K-St, Oklahoma and Baylor....if the finish the season 2-1 beating OK and WVU and lose to OKSt then they are solidly in. Sure the Kansas win would have helped but they are still in very good shape.

sumerelcnu wrote: So why do we give 2 ***** about a missed call in a Big 12 game that doesn't affect us one bit?

Oh that's right we need to add more credence to the fact that we never actually lose a game but the refs have screwed us out of every ******* one of them.

For ***** sake, get over it, we have to PLAY better.