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Posted: 2/25/2013 8:54 PM
WV complains about travel after moving to Big 12
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:09 PM
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Idiots. Imagine the non-revenue sports, they will probably start hitchhiking or sneaking on freight trains.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:32 PM
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Thats a long way for the donkey to pull, ya'll
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:09 PM
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Well aw shucks. That's just too bad WV.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:10 PM
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Moving to the sports board
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:40 PM
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"Change the fact that every other school in the Big 12 is at least 1,700 miles (round trip) and a time zone away, something the Mountaineers knew very well when they voluntarily switched leagues."
Ehhh, I'm not so sure that's a safe assumption.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:41 PM
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Quick thoughts:
- How could WV not see this coming?
- I wonder how much the additional travel costs cut into that revenue gained?
- I suspect travel has had a lot to do with WV's performance this year. Frankly, they just weren't as competitive in football or basketball this season as they should have been. I don't for a second believe the Big 12 is better at basketball than the Big East either.
- I suspect MD is going to find the same thing in the Big 10. It will take exactly 1 year of freezing their @#$()* off in Wisconsin or Michigan in the winter before they have second thoughts.
- Do fans at Texas Tech or Iowa State care if West Virginia shows up? How about the opposite? I don't think these moves are good at the gate.
- This article doesn't mention it, but I don't know how this doesn't impact recruiting.
- Oh, and the academics? What a joke.............
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:45 PM
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Complaining about this their first year in the conference. Imagine how bad it will be three years from now when the novelty of playing new teams wears off. But let's be honest, WVU had no choice but to join the Big XII after the ACC and SEC denied them.
This is why I hope the ACC remains a power player. I don't want to have my teams playing in the Midwest or near the Great Lakes. I want to drive to Winston Salem, Durham, Clemson and Chapel Hill to see my teams play. All within two hours of where I live.
Last edited 2/25/2013 10:46 PM by ncpack54
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:52 PM
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ribread wrote: Quick thoughts:
- How could WV not see this coming?
- I wonder how much the additional travel costs cut into that revenue gained?
- I suspect travel has had a lot to do with WV's performance this year. Frankly, they just weren't as competitive in football or basketball this season as they should have been. I don't for a second believe the Big 12 is better at basketball than the Big East either.
- I suspect MD is going to find the same thing in the Big 10. It will take exactly 1 year of freezing their @#$()* off in Wisconsin or Michigan in the winter before they have second thoughts.
- Do fans at Texas Tech or Iowa State care if West Virginia shows up? How about the opposite? I don't think these moves are good at the gate.
- This article doesn't mention it, but I don't know how this doesn't impact recruiting.
- Oh, and the academics? What a joke............. All valid points here^^
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:53 PM
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ribread wrote: Quick thoughts:
- I wonder how much the additional travel costs cut into that revenue gained?
Revenue is probably more indirect... one of the complaints was "We travelled to Texas, and then we turned around and travelled to Texas Tech... and THAT is what caused our 5 game losing streak" hahaaa!
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Posted: 2/25/2013 11:05 PM
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Posted: 2/25/2013 11:18 PM
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Part of the joke is on us. We could have had a WVU team that was a better cultural fit, closer, competitive in both football and basketball, and instead decided that Pitt, Sorrycuse, and a part-time Notre Dame were better options. At the very least WVU should have been in before Cuse. WVU would have had natural rivalries with Pitt and UMD (oops). Maybe Maryland stays if WVU is in.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 11:23 PM
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Well maybe West Virginia made the mistake of assuming that the Big 12 would actually add two more members and be "The Big 12". I think it would be logical that West Virginia would have liked to have maybe Louisville and Cincinnati included in the conference to give them a couple of closer trips. Bad move by WVU, but I can understand why they thought it would likely happen, not a lot of deep thinkers up there in Mountaineer country.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 11:31 PM
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Another reason why I hate all this new re-alignment. Schools should stick to their regions. Like another poster said, NC State fans having to travel to the Great Lakes region every other weekend?! No way, esp in todays economy. Stay within your area, kinda like certain local school districts need too...
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Posted: 2/25/2013 11:34 PM
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Planet Boulder wrote:  Love it! Love everything about it!
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Posted: 2/25/2013 11:38 PM
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FeloniousQ wrote: Part of the joke is on us. We could have had a WVU team that was a better cultural fit, closer, competitive in both football and basketball, and instead decided that Pitt, Sorrycuse, and a part-time Notre Dame were better options. At the very least WVU should have been in before Cuse. WVU would have had natural rivalries with Pitt and UMD (oops). Maybe Maryland stays if WVU is in. Yea, the reason Maryland left is b/c WVU didn't get to join! |
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:37 AM
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Maybe travel would be easier if they burned less cars after beating unranked teams.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:41 AM
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The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 1:25 AM
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well West Virginia....meet Captain OBVIOUS! what a bunch of maroons! I hope it seriously cripples their budget with travel costs....it would be fitting.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 1:28 AM
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they got what they wanted particularly when no one else wanted them
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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:10 AM
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FeloniousQ wrote: Part of the joke is on us. We could have had a WVU team that was a better cultural fit, closer, competitive in both football and basketball, and instead decided that Pitt, Sorrycuse, and a part-time Notre Dame were better options. At the very least WVU should have been in before Cuse. WVU would have had natural rivalries with Pitt and UMD (oops). Maybe Maryland stays if WVU is in. WVU doesn't fit ANYWHERE culturally, especially in the ACC. AFAIC, they can go join rival Marshall in Conference USA, if they're going to whine about the only conference that would take their community college level academics. |
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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:24 AM
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I can't see how the established members are going to agree to burden their student-athletes to help out WVU.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:41 AM
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Planet Boulder wrote: Love it! Love everything about it! Typical academics from WVU.... They misspelled the sign an "h" and left off the "S" and "G", for that is a trademark for them. The company of just and righteous men is better than wealth and a rich estate.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:49 AM
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Welcome to C-USA WVU. Also it's not as fun for WVU because they aren't the big dawg on the gridiron anymore. Have fun with all those losses for a program that isn't use to losing.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 8:17 AM
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they should have looked at a map.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 8:27 AM
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This is why I say that eventually these mega-conferences are going to implode. One day, and I don't know when, tight geographic conferences will return. It's happened before. The old Southern Conference was the first mega-conference. Had close to two dozen schools. Some schools in the mid-Atlantic broke off and formed the ACC. Some schools in the deep South broke off and formed the SEC.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 8:54 AM
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Around here we have people move close to airports and then complain about jet noise.
Same thing I guess.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 9:07 AM
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RowanWolf wrote: This is why I say that eventually these mega-conferences are going to implode. One day, and I don't know when, tight geographic conferences will return. It's happened before. The old Southern Conference was the first mega-conference. Had close to two dozen schools. Some schools in the mid-Atlantic broke off and formed the ACC. Some schools in the deep South broke off and formed the SEC. The world is smaller than ever. Distance is not the factor it once was. WV's problem is their remoteness from the rest of the conference. It would be different if there were 3 or 4 other schools somewhat closer to them. This is why the WV fans were/are stirring the expansion pot. They were hoping to get Clemson, FSU, GT, etc. to jump to the Big 12 and create an "eastern" division with them. Of course those schools were not about to do anything of the sort. I think the "UNC to the B1G" rumors were started by MD people for the same reason.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 9:28 AM
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Now love lost on this one. If they had looked at a map they could not have read it! hahahaha Hope Md gets the same treatment. hahahaha
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Posted: 2/26/2013 10:39 AM
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The complaints are more about the scheduling than the traveling. If the schedule would have allowed for back to back games in the same state/region, within a couple of days between each game, then the teams wouldn't need to travel back to WV for a day and then head back out on the road. Why not schedule it so that we play Kansas on a Saturday, then stay in the state and play K-State on a Monday. Or Texas and Texas Tech. Or whatever combination so that we can stay on the road for the games.
Hopefully in the future the schedules will be more friendly for travel. But whatever, can't blame it for the failures of the team.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 10:45 AM
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EastChapelHill04Class wrote:
Planet Boulder wrote: Love it! Love everything about it! Typical academics from WVU.... They misspelled the sign an "h" and left off the "S" and "G", for that is a trademark for them. haha, and they couldn't even spell Virginia on their NIT champions shirts...  |
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Posted: 2/26/2013 11:08 AM
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Posted: 2/26/2013 11:39 AM
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West Virginia looks foolish in complaining about travel after making such a move. But oh well.
However, to all the high-brow folks all over the country (even here) who constantly beat up WVU academics, give it a rest. If you want a good education, you can certainly get one there. Most educational experiences are what you the student make of it. Going to some place like Notre Dame doesn't ensure you of learning more or better info than going to WVU, ECU or Mt. Olive College for that matter. If you're inclined to learn - you will. And a school like WVU provides plenty of quality opportunity.
WVU in particular is a poor state with limited resources. Its to their benefit to educate as many people as they can in hopes of lifting the educational level of their overall population. Like most places, they need jobs in WVA (but worse). They need for their "achievers" to remain in-state instead of going elsewhere. As such, they have an open enrollment policy to help accomplish these goals. For the state of West Virginia this is a smart strategy and the right move. They aren't trying to be Harvard (nor are we for that matter). I just get irritated with all the snobs around who want to claim that only certain schools provide good academics - that someone all the others are unworthy somehow. Rubbish! That's an elitist attitude that sounds a lot like some other groups we know. Furthermore, its just not accurate.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 11:44 AM
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maliciouself wrote: Idiots. Imagine the non-revenue sports, they will probably start hitchhiking or sneaking on freight trains. exactly..did they not think that through?
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:10 PM
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The complaints are more about the scheduling than the traveling. If the schedule would have allowed for back to back games in the same state/region, within a couple of days between each game, then the teams wouldn't need to travel back to WV for a day and then head back out on the road. Why not schedule it so that we play Kansas on a Saturday, then stay in the state and play K-State on a Monday. Or Texas and Texas Tech. Or whatever combination so that we can stay on the road for the games.
Hopefully in the future the schedules will be more friendly for travel. But whatever, can't blame it for the failures of the team.
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Agree with you, but it will always be difficult to schedule for one around nine other members. The 'Eers will have difficulties from time-to-time in all their sports competing in the Big 12. Just the nature of the situation.
Financially, travel expense is not that big of a deal, especially once they receive their full share from the Big 12.
The honeymoon has been short for WVU. The realization is setting in for some. Not that they had any choice at the time that they committed to the Big 12. It beat the alternative, staying in the Big East. The final kick in the groin came with the Louisville invite to the ACC. Had they waited it out or had the Big 12 added Louisville instead of WVU, the Mountaineers may be planning their move to the ACC right now and been conference mates with long-time rivals Pitt, VT and Syracuse. Oh well.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:38 PM
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bppack wrote: they should have looked at a map. They probably did and are shocked the travel takes that long. After all, on the map the other schools are all only 3-4 inches away!  "much of the haughty blue blood luster that permeates through Orange County has been tempered by the constant news updates and reminders that the Tar Heels are cheaters."
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:41 PM
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Pretty funny to read... made my day.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:46 PM
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They like losing so many football games even less than the travel.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:48 PM
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Texas A&M planned to budget $1 million more in 2012-13 season for travel due to more to SEC www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/20...et_texas_a.htmlBecause Texas A&M teams will charter more flights, Byrne will budget at least another $1 million for travel.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:54 PM
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packfan01 wrote: "Change the fact that every other school in the Big 12 is at least 1,700 miles (round trip) and a time zone away, something the Mountaineers knew very well when they voluntarily switched leagues."
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