mcpack1 wrote: Is it possible that the alledged rapist is an athlete?

I have no idea. I'm just throwing this out as a possibility.

dpanther wrote: This one is all over the web. Maybe it deserves it's own thread? The comments section on these articles is a good place to toss a little education for those that may otherwise be unaware.

And before anyone sanctimoniously crucifies me for using this platform to get the "athletic scandal" word out....I'm attacking the insanity of rape even being an honor court issue....not rape itself. The fact is that a whole new world of people we read these articles as opposed to another unc scandal article. They have become numb.

Any thoughts? I've already hit the N&O article.

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--- wuffapotamus wrote:

I think this story was briefly discussed on this board, here is the latest:


College Rape Victim Faces Expulsion for Speaking Out
A sophomore at the University of North Carolina is facing potential expulsion from her school for what the college calls 'intimidating' behavior.

www.alternet.org/news-amp-poli...r800175&t=7

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TruthBKnownReturns wrote:

packwad97 wrote: I keep hearing “this is over” and “nothing is going to happen to the Cheats”. To the folks that have this belief, what more do you think could/should have happened by now? I am talking in realistic terms, not “burn the place to the ground” type stuff.

I agree that this is a slow and frustrating process to watch unfold, I would love to see them get the Death Penalty too, but the Cheats have a team of lawyers, PR machine, and are some obfuscating SOB’s. They have threaded the needle for 3 years now and continue to do so. They refuse to do an independent investigation and come clean like Penn State did.

At a bare minimum, the NCAA should have rented out a building so they could temporarily relocate here to continue investigating how athletes received fraudulent grades and remained eligible.

52Fan wrote:
Would like to see the N&O article reach some National Forums
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--- 52Fan wrote:

This "rape" story, or alleged rape story,whichever it may be, has the potential to go viral, while the other stuff has stayed off the radar. Maybe Kane needs to "link" these somehow.

In the academic and athletic probes, I see the link in the way Judges and DA's who are Alumni and possibly contributors or boosters seem to proceed with cases from which they SHOULD have recused themselves. Manning should not be Judging any cases involving UNC for example.

The question I would have at this point is, will we see a UNC Alumnus preside over this "rape" case too ?

People may be willing to look the other way over the UNC Football team or basketball team and their supposed academic performance, but this is different. This is somebody's little girl (and somebody's little boy too). There will be National interest in this and quite a bit of passion. The idea that in North Carolina we have Judges and DA's taking cases where they are clearly conflicted makes for mighty interesting reading.

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52Fan wrote:
Would like to see the N&O article reach some National Forums
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--- 52Fan wrote:

This "rape" story, or alleged rape story,whichever it may be, has the potential to go viral, while the other stuff has stayed off the radar. Maybe Kane needs to "link" these somehow.

In the academic and athletic probes, I see the link in the way Judges and DA's who are Alumni and possibly contributors or boosters seem to proceed with cases from which they SHOULD have recused themselves. Manning should not be Judging any cases involving UNC for example.

The question I would have at this point is, will we see a UNC Alumnus preside over this "rape" case too ?

People may be willing to look the other way over the UNC Football team or basketball team and their supposed academic performance, but this is different. This is somebody's little girl (and somebody's little boy too). There will be National interest in this and quite a bit of passion. The idea that in North Carolina we have Judges and DA's taking cases where they are clearly conflicted makes for mighty interesting reading.

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Rspnc wrote: The one thing that stills strikes fear in the hearts of UNC VIPs is they still do not know what Kane knows and has not yet revealed.

They must be constantly worrying "did we get away with it? Do we remain quiet and hope it fades away, or will Kane then pop up and show we knew about it but chose to remain silent?"

Point the finger at a convenient scapegoat or remain silent?  Tough choice ....

seniorwolf60 wrote: For several years we have been discussing a multitude of unsavory acts occurring at UNC. Is it coincidence, or is there a connection? Well, there does seem to be a common denominator - culture. Change the culture and these issues go away. But that's not going to happen because we all know how they love their culture which, by the way, is cloaked in 95% fiction and 5% fact.

0newolf wrote:

Rspnc wrote: The one thing that stills strikes fear in the hearts of UNC VIPs is they still do not know what Kane knows and has not yet revealed.

They must be constantly worrying "did we get away with it? Do we remain quiet and hope it fades away, or will Kane then pop up and show we knew about it but chose to remain silent?"

Point the finger at a convenient scapegoat or remain silent?  Tough choice ....

Y'all really need to give up on this theory.

0newolf wrote:

Rspnc wrote: The one thing that stills strikes fear in the hearts of UNC VIPs is they still do not know what Kane knows and has not yet revealed.

They must be constantly worrying "did we get away with it? Do we remain quiet and hope it fades away, or will Kane then pop up and show we knew about it but chose to remain silent?"

Point the finger at a convenient scapegoat or remain silent?  Tough choice ....

Y'all really need to give up on this theory.

52Fan wrote: I don't know if Kane has anything or needs anything. There are enough unanswered questions to last a long time. In three years, it seems like there really have been no answers, just allegations and then people who retired without answering anything. Blake, Davis, Baddour, Nyang'oro, Thorpe, plenty of others

52Fan wrote: I don't know if Kane has anything or needs anything. There are enough unanswered questions to last a long time. In three years, it seems like there really have been no answers, just allegations and then people who retired without answering anything. Blake, Davis, Baddour, Nyang'oro, Thorpe, plenty of others

To those saying... "nothing has or will happen to them, they got away with it." 

Prior to the UNC investigation, didn't NC State hold the honor of "NCAA most cooperative eva'." I can't find the direct quote, but I recall the lead NCAA investigator saying something like "NCSU bent over backwards to respond to his requests." How did that work out for us in the long run? It wasn't the shoes and tickets that brought us down, for that we only received two years of self imposed probation and one year ineligibility for the NCAA tournament (as well as some self imposed recruiting restrictions). That wasn't what cast into the desert to wander for a generation.

Wikipedia reference to the Poole Report: The state-appointed Poole Commission issued a 32-page report that concluded that there were no major violations of NCAA regulations, and that Valvano and his staff's inadequate oversight of players' academic progress violated "the spirit, not the letter of the law."

Again, Wikipedia:  ...a school investigation did reveal that Valvano's student athletes did not perform well in the classroom, as only 11 of the players that he coached prior to 1988 had maintained an average of C or better.[6] This was perhaps due to his persistence in recruiting students deemed to be "academic exceptions."

The facts are shoegate/ticketgate just opened the door and unfortunately behind that door we had a whole bunch of skeletons in the closet. It was the academic prowess of our student athletes that rocked our world. The real decade-long damage ensued after deficiencies in academic policy were corrected. 

Sounds eerily similar to what has happened in Chapel Hill. Fat Marv's tweets revealed illegal benefits, the door opened, and lot of unpleasantry in their academics were uncovered. Bones started falling out of their closets. The difference is their academic issues go much deeper than ours ever did. Like us, they recruited weak students that could play sports. Unlike us, they hid those students in fake courses and inappropriately changed their grades (presumably to a higher grade -- why change it lower -- and allegedly to keep the weak students eligible). If you think the academic world will let them get away with that, you are nuts. We police ourselves which is why SACS is coming to town. April they'll be in Chapel Hill. June the'll have their meeting to discus what was learned in April. Maybe UNC get's their  sentencing from SACS in June, or maybe it is delayed until the next meeting. Either way, it lingers in the press and in folks minds, neither of which is good.

Policies and procedures are changing over there that will limit their abilities to recruit weak students. Policies and procedures are changing over there to ensure fake classes and inappropriate grade changes don't happen again. Policies are changing over there that will ensure a legitimate education is being delivered. Otherwise, SACS will never leave them alone. Hiding in the wings... the Drake Group, which may be able to influence the outcome (although, I'm not sure how, they have no carrots to encourage a result and no sticks to use in punishment in the event those results aren't achieved).  

I think the best advice I can give anyone is slow down, take a breath. I know we are an instantaneous society with tweets, text messaging, etc, but not everything fits into the new time scale by which we live our lives. Sometimes, things just take... time. Oh the horror, we have to wait.

Our decline wasn't abrupt, it occurred over multiple seasons. As academic requirements were cranked up, each subsequent incoming class of student-athlete were more student and less athlete. Eventually the rosters were full of student-first athletes. This day is coming for Chapel Hill. It will be done because in the core of the university they know it is the right thing to do OR they will do it because SACS/Drake won't leave them alone until they make lasting changes. Either way, change is coming. If you are patient enough, you will see the changes. Open your eyes and you will see those changes have begun. In calendar year 2013, haven't we already seen a football player and basketball player affected by the ever more watchful eyes of the academics?  Which decade was the last time that happened? 70's?

ProfessorWolf wrote:
It will be done because in the core of the university they know it is the right thing to do..

thewolf10 wrote:

ProfessorWolf wrote:
It will be done because in the core of the university they know it is the right thing to do..

HA

ProfessorWolf wrote:

To those saying... "nothing has or will happen to them, they got away with it." 

Prior to the UNC investigation, didn't NC State hold the honor of "NCAA most cooperative eva'." I can't find the direct quote, but I recall the lead NCAA investigator saying something like "NCSU bent over backwards to respond to his requests." How did that work out for us in the long run? It wasn't the shoes and tickets that brought us down, for that we only received two years of self imposed probation and one year ineligibility for the NCAA tournament (as well as some self imposed recruiting restrictions). That wasn't what cast into the desert to wander for a generation.

Wikipedia reference to the Poole Report: The state-appointed Poole Commission issued a 32-page report that concluded that there were no major violations of NCAA regulations, and that Valvano and his staff's inadequate oversight of players' academic progress violated "the spirit, not the letter of the law."

Again, Wikipedia:  ...a school investigation did reveal that Valvano's student athletes did not perform well in the classroom, as only 11 of the players that he coached prior to 1988 had maintained an average of C or better.[6] This was perhaps due to his persistence in recruiting students deemed to be "academic exceptions."

The facts are shoegate/ticketgate just opened the door and unfortunately behind that door we had a whole bunch of skeletons in the closet. It was the academic prowess of our student athletes that rocked our world. The real decade-long damage ensued after deficiencies in academic policy were corrected. 

Sounds eerily similar to what has happened in Chapel Hill. Fat Marv's tweets revealed illegal benefits, the door opened, and lot of unpleasantry in their academics were uncovered. Bones started falling out of their closets. The difference is their academic issues go much deeper than ours ever did. Like us, they recruited weak students that could play sports. Unlike us, they hid those students in fake courses and inappropriately changed their grades (presumably to a higher grade -- why change it lower -- and allegedly to keep the weak students eligible). If you think the academic world will let them get away with that, you are nuts. We police ourselves which is why SACS is coming to town. April they'll be in Chapel Hill. June the'll have their meeting to discus what was learned in April. Maybe UNC get's their  sentencing from SACS then, or maybe it is delayed until the next meeting. Either way, it lingers in the press and in folks minds, neither of which is good.

Policies and procedures are changing over there that will limit their abilities to recruit weak students. Policies and procedures are changing over there to ensure fake classes and inappropriate grade changes don't happen again. Policies are changing over there that will ensure a legitimate education is being delivered. Otherwise, SACS will never leave them alone. Hiding in the wings... the Drake Group, which may be able to influence the outcome (although, I'm not sure how, they have no carrots to encourage a result and no sticks to use in punishment in the event those results aren't achieved).  

I think the best advice I can give anyone is slow down, take a breath. I know we are an instantaneous society with tweets, text messaging, etc, but not everything fits into the new time scale by which we live our lives. Sometimes, things just take... time. Oh the horror, we have to wait.

Our decline wasn't abrupt, it occurred over multiple seasons. As academic requirements were cranked up, each subsequent incoming class of student-athlete were more student and less athlete. Eventually the rosters were full of student-first athletes. This day is coming for Chapel Hill. It will be done because in the core of the university they know it is the right thing to do OR they will do it because SACS/Drake won't leave them alone until they make lasting changes. Either way, change is coming. If you are patient enough, you will see the changes. Open your eyes and you will see those changes have begun. In calendar year 2013, haven't we already seen a football player and basketball player affected by the ever more watchful eyes of the academics?  Which decade was the last time that happened? 70's?

direwolfpack wrote: Policies and procedures are changing over there that will limit their abilities to recruit weak students. Policies and procedures are changing over there to ensure fake classes and inappropriate grade changes don't happen again. Policies are changing over there that will ensure a legitimate education is being delivered.


With all due respect, you're delusional. They will take some pictures, they'll shuffle some paperwork, and they'll claim they're doing things the "right way". Their recruits will have better GPA's because they're taking correspondence courses from U*NC, and their SAT scores will be higher because they're taking the test in U*NC's testing centers in Chapel Hill. U*NC will not, repeat will not, punish itself like we did.

direwolfpack wrote: Policies and procedures are changing over there that will limit their abilities to recruit weak students. Policies and procedures are changing over there to ensure fake classes and inappropriate grade changes don't happen again. Policies are changing over there that will ensure a legitimate education is being delivered.


With all due respect, you're delusional. They will take some pictures, they'll shuffle some paperwork, and they'll claim they're doing things the "right way". Their recruits will have better GPA's because they're taking correspondence courses from U*NC, and their SAT scores will be higher because they're taking the test in U*NC's testing centers in Chapel Hill. U*NC will not, repeat will not, punish itself like we did.

ProfessorWolf wrote:
...The difference is their academic issues go much deeper than ours ever did. Like us, they recruited weak students that could play sports. Unlike us, they hid those students in fake courses and inappropriately changed their grades (presumably to a higher grade -- why change it lower -- and allegedly to keep the weak students eligible). If you think the academic world will let them get away with that, you are nuts. We police ourselves ...

Policies and procedures are changing over there that will limit their abilities to recruit weak students. Policies and procedures are changing over there to ensure fake classes and inappropriate grade changes don't happen again. Policies are changing over there that will ensure a legitimate education is being delivered.

... This day is coming for Chapel Hill. It will be done because in the core of the university they know it is the right thing to do OR they will do it because SACS/Drake won't leave them alone until they make lasting changes. ...

ProfessorWolf wrote:

I think the best advice I can give anyone is slow down, take a breath. I know we are an instantaneous society with tweets, text messaging, etc, but not everything fits into the new time scale by which we live our lives. Sometimes, things just take... time. Oh the horror, we have to wait.

Our decline wasn't abrupt, it occurred over multiple seasons. As academic requirements were cranked up, each subsequent incoming class of student-athlete were more student and less athlete. Eventually the rosters were full of student-first athletes. This day is coming for Chapel Hill. It will be done because in the core of the university they know it is the right thing to do OR they will do it because SACS/Drake won't leave them alone until they make lasting changes. Either way, change is coming. If you are patient enough, you will see the changes. Open your eyes and you will see those changes have begun. In calendar year 2013, haven't we already seen a football player and basketball player affected by the ever more watchful eyes of the academics?  Which decade was the last time that happened? 70's?

bsme74 wrote:

ProfessorWolf wrote:
...The difference is their academic issues go much deeper than ours ever did. Like us, they recruited weak students that could play sports. Unlike us, they hid those students in fake courses and inappropriately changed their grades (presumably to a higher grade -- why change it lower -- and allegedly to keep the weak students eligible). If you think the academic world will let them get away with that, you are nuts. We police ourselves ...

Policies and procedures are changing over there that will limit their abilities to recruit weak students. Policies and procedures are changing over there to ensure fake classes and inappropriate grade changes don't happen again. Policies are changing over there that will ensure a legitimate education is being delivered.

... This day is coming for Chapel Hill. It will be done because in the core of the university they know it is the right thing to do OR they will do it because SACS/Drake won't leave them alone until they make lasting changes. ...

PW,
Rest assured, I have been enjoying seeing a little bit of wrong being righted. 

Let's hope you can continue to post for the next TWENTY years, "I told you so." --- I just will not be holding my breath, because so far uncch has had three years to do what NC State did and uncch faculty has NOT impressed me at all. 

When it comes to uncch, I will believe it when I SEE IT.  I do think they will eventually do a "partial-measure", maybe a half-measure, but no where near what "we" did. But I will take all that they will do.

.

ProfessorWolf wrote:

direwolfpack wrote: Policies and procedures are changing over there that will limit their abilities to recruit weak students. Policies and procedures are changing over there to ensure fake classes and inappropriate grade changes don't happen again. Policies are changing over there that will ensure a legitimate education is being delivered.


With all due respect, you're delusional. They will take some pictures, they'll shuffle some paperwork, and they'll claim they're doing things the "right way". Their recruits will have better GPA's because they're taking correspondence courses from U*NC, and their SAT scores will be higher because they're taking the test in U*NC's testing centers in Chapel Hill. U*NC will not, repeat will not, punish itself like we did.

Say hello to our two examples thus far:





with more to come... in due time.

BlackRazor wrote:

ProfessorWolf wrote:

I think the best advice I can give anyone is slow down, take a breath. I know we are an instantaneous society with tweets, text messaging, etc, but not everything fits into the new time scale by which we live our lives. Sometimes, things just take... time. Oh the horror, we have to wait.

Our decline wasn't abrupt, it occurred over multiple seasons. As academic requirements were cranked up, each subsequent incoming class of student-athlete were more student and less athlete. Eventually the rosters were full of student-first athletes. This day is coming for Chapel Hill. It will be done because in the core of the university they know it is the right thing to do OR they will do it because SACS/Drake won't leave them alone until they make lasting changes. Either way, change is coming. If you are patient enough, you will see the changes. Open your eyes and you will see those changes have begun. In calendar year 2013, haven't we already seen a football player and basketball player affected by the ever more watchful eyes of the academics?  Which decade was the last time that happened? 70's?

This is a great point in a strong post, some are really: OMG if we don't have the results we want by now we'll never get them! Life doesn't work out on our schedule.

They expect this to be wrapped up in a neat bow like their TV shows or movies are - in a 1-2 hour time frame. Some of the same people who are saying nothing will happen also said that almost 3 years ago.

ProfessorWolf wrote:

bsme74 wrote:

ProfessorWolf wrote:
...The difference is their academic issues go much deeper than ours ever did. Like us, they recruited weak students that could play sports. Unlike us, they hid those students in fake courses and inappropriately changed their grades (presumably to a higher grade -- why change it lower -- and allegedly to keep the weak students eligible). If you think the academic world will let them get away with that, you are nuts. We police ourselves ...

Policies and procedures are changing over there that will limit their abilities to recruit weak students. Policies and procedures are changing over there to ensure fake classes and inappropriate grade changes don't happen again. Policies are changing over there that will ensure a legitimate education is being delivered.

... This day is coming for Chapel Hill. It will be done because in the core of the university they know it is the right thing to do OR they will do it because SACS/Drake won't leave them alone until they make lasting changes. ...

PW,
Rest assured, I have been enjoying seeing a little bit of wrong being righted. 

Let's hope you can continue to post for the next TWENTY years, "I told you so." --- I just will not be holding my breath, because so far uncch has had three years to do what NC State did and uncch faculty has NOT impressed me at all. 

When it comes to uncch, I will believe it when I SEE IT.  I do think they will eventually do a "partial-measure", maybe a half-measure, but no where near what "we" did. But I will take all that they will do.

.

Going to go out on a limb with this prediction... coming from my gut only.

Thorp earlier indicated UNC would be increasing their admission standards to which Ole' Roy responded no we won't. Hunter Rawlings (President of the Association of American Universities) is coming to campus to talk about how academics and athletics can co-exist. Given their membership, you have to think AAU has an interesting take on athletics. Sure, Texas, Michigan & Ohio State are in the membership, but I think if you did a count, you might find the MITs, Carnegie Mellons and Harvards might out number the schools with dominant athletic programs. 

Wouldn't it be a spring surprise for Thorp to use Hunter's presence as the opportunity to announce his fair well present to UNC... early adoption of the NCAA's 2016 freshman eligibility requirements.

direwolfpack wrote: An already injured player is "suspended" for three games, and a QB that's still on the team per The Hat isn't at school is your example of U*NC actually developing academic integrity?

ProfessorWolf wrote:

direwolfpack wrote: Policies and procedures are changing over there that will limit their abilities to recruit weak students. Policies and procedures are changing over there to ensure fake classes and inappropriate grade changes don't happen again. Policies are changing over there that will ensure a legitimate education is being delivered.


With all due respect, you're delusional. They will take some pictures, they'll shuffle some paperwork, and they'll claim they're doing things the "right way". Their recruits will have better GPA's because they're taking correspondence courses from U*NC, and their SAT scores will be higher because they're taking the test in U*NC's testing centers in Chapel Hill. U*NC will not, repeat will not, punish itself like we did.

Say hello to our two examples thus far:





with more to come... in due time.

ProfessorWolf wrote:

To those saying... "nothing has or will happen to them, they got away with it." 

Prior to the UNC investigation, didn't NC State hold the honor of "NCAA most cooperative eva'." I can't find the direct quote, but I recall the lead NCAA investigator saying something like "NCSU bent over backwards to respond to his requests." How did that work out for us in the long run? It wasn't the shoes and tickets that brought us down, for that we only received two years of self imposed probation and one year ineligibility for the NCAA tournament (as well as some self imposed recruiting restrictions). That wasn't what cast into the desert to wander for a generation.

Wikipedia reference to the Poole Report: The state-appointed Poole Commission issued a 32-page report that concluded that there were no major violations of NCAA regulations, and that Valvano and his staff's inadequate oversight of players' academic progress violated "the spirit, not the letter of the law."

Again, Wikipedia:  ...a school investigation did reveal that Valvano's student athletes did not perform well in the classroom, as only 11 of the players that he coached prior to 1988 had maintained an average of C or better.[6] This was perhaps due to his persistence in recruiting students deemed to be "academic exceptions."

The facts are shoegate/ticketgate just opened the door and unfortunately behind that door we had a whole bunch of skeletons in the closet. It was the academic prowess of our student athletes that rocked our world. The real decade-long damage ensued after deficiencies in academic policy were corrected. 

Sounds eerily similar to what has happened in Chapel Hill. Fat Marv's tweets revealed illegal benefits, the door opened, and lot of unpleasantry in their academics were uncovered. Bones started falling out of their closets. The difference is their academic issues go much deeper than ours ever did. Like us, they recruited weak students that could play sports. Unlike us, they hid those students in fake courses and inappropriately changed their grades (presumably to a higher grade -- why change it lower -- and allegedly to keep the weak students eligible). If you think the academic world will let them get away with that, you are nuts. We police ourselves which is why SACS is coming to town. April they'll be in Chapel Hill. June the'll have their meeting to discus what was learned in April. Maybe UNC get's their  sentencing from SACS in June, or maybe it is delayed until the next meeting. Either way, it lingers in the press and in folks minds, neither of which is good.

Policies and procedures are changing over there that will limit their abilities to recruit weak students. Policies and procedures are changing over there to ensure fake classes and inappropriate grade changes don't happen again. Policies are changing over there that will ensure a legitimate education is being delivered. Otherwise, SACS will never leave them alone. Hiding in the wings... the Drake Group, which may be able to influence the outcome (although, I'm not sure how, they have no carrots to encourage a result and no sticks to use in punishment in the event those results aren't achieved).  

I think the best advice I can give anyone is slow down, take a breath. I know we are an instantaneous society with tweets, text messaging, etc, but not everything fits into the new time scale by which we live our lives. Sometimes, things just take... time. Oh the horror, we have to wait.

Our decline wasn't abrupt, it occurred over multiple seasons. As academic requirements were cranked up, each subsequent incoming class of student-athlete were more student and less athlete. Eventually the rosters were full of student-first athletes. This day is coming for Chapel Hill. It will be done because in the core of the university they know it is the right thing to do OR they will do it because SACS/Drake won't leave them alone until they make lasting changes. Either way, change is coming. If you are patient enough, you will see the changes. Open your eyes and you will see those changes have begun. In calendar year 2013, haven't we already seen a football player and basketball player affected by the ever more watchful eyes of the academics?  Which decade was the last time that happened? 70's?

RaleighBound wrote:

ProfessorWolf wrote: Going to go out on a limb with this prediction... coming from my gut only.

Thorp earlier indicated UNC would be increasing their admission standards to which Ole' Roy responded no we won't. Hunter Rawlings (President of the Association of American Universities) is coming to campus to talk about how academics and athletics can co-exist. Given their membership, you have to think AAU has an interesting take on athletics. Sure, Texas, Michigan & Ohio State are in the membership, but I think if you did a count, you might find the MITs, Carnegie Mellons and Harvards might out number the schools with dominant athletic programs. 

Wouldn't it be a spring surprise for Thorp to use Hunter's presence as the opportunity to announce his fair well present to UNC... early adoption of the NCAA's 2016 freshman eligibility requirements.

It would be a wonderful and welcome surprise.  My opinion of Thorp and the Faculty some argue he secretly supports would rise.  Maybe we are looking at a man who fears doing what is right due to fear for his family's well being, in the most literal sense.  We are on the cusp of knowing whether the Carolina Way extends into the SBI, which if true would mean the teeth of justice in this State is corrupt to the core.

ProfessorWolf wrote:

RaleighBound wrote:

ProfessorWolf wrote: Going to go out on a limb with this prediction... coming from my gut only.

Thorp earlier indicated UNC would be increasing their admission standards to which Ole' Roy responded no we won't. Hunter Rawlings (President of the Association of American Universities) is coming to campus to talk about how academics and athletics can co-exist. Given their membership, you have to think AAU has an interesting take on athletics. Sure, Texas, Michigan & Ohio State are in the membership, but I think if you did a count, you might find the MITs, Carnegie Mellons and Harvards might out number the schools with dominant athletic programs. 

Wouldn't it be a spring surprise for Thorp to use Hunter's presence as the opportunity to announce his fair well present to UNC... early adoption of the NCAA's 2016 freshman eligibility requirements.

It would be a wonderful and welcome surprise.  My opinion of Thorp and the Faculty some argue he secretly supports would rise.  Maybe we are looking at a man who fears doing what is right due to fear for his family's well being, in the most literal sense.  We are on the cusp of knowing whether the Carolina Way extends into the SBI, which if true would mean the teeth of justice in this State is corrupt to the core.

Could be Thorp no longer will have to battle the Rams Club and as his final "up yours" to the BOT Bobs of the world, he sets the policy. No different than a president pardoning a scum bag on the final day of office. I'm not saying it is going to happen, the way I portrayed,  but Thorp has said changes would be announced this spring. What changes are those going to be? He has said UNC would be early adopters of the new standards? Ok, how soon?