Bryanth1a wrote:

HSP78 wrote:

CarlWeathersWolfpack wrote:

legacyman wrote: The refs did not cost us the game...we did it to ourselves and a less talented unc-ch squad was happy to take the gift.

It is very rare that we can say that we had more talent in the starting five than our biggest rivals and yet we squandered the chance to sweep the blue boys.  That more talent is mostly due to the solid base of talent left by Lowe for Gottfried to add to and mold into a squad that was preseason ranked sixth in the country.  

Now it is time for Gottfried to start coaching and earn that two million bucks he is paid.

Sidiot the Tax Cheat wasn't even in the same class of coach as we have in Gottfried, however.  If Sidiot the Tax Cheat were still head coach, we would be struggling to sniff the NIT.

I guess if enough people believe and repeat this, it becomes true.  The fact is, Duke and UNC started the season with 6 and 5 McDonald All Americans spread across multiple classes to our 4 - three of whom are true freshmen.  Without Kelly, Duke still has 5 along with UNC.  No matter how you look at players on each of the three squads, theirs were the higher rated and recruited players.  The idea that we have more talent than either one of those squads is the biggest oft-repeated canard on these boards.  It's demonstrably untrue.

I'm tired of this McDonald's AA designation being used to determine whether a player is more talented than another.  Those bull **** McAA awards were based on HS accomplishments.

Leslie McDonald and Strickand were McD AA but would you trade Scott Wood for them.  Hell no, I wouldn't.  Ryan Kelly was a McD AA but there's no way I'd rather have him than Richard Howell.

badweatherpackfan wrote:

Well I'm sure one of the things he was referring to was some of the inconsistent foul calls, but what was the other thing?

I'm guessing it was Leslie.....but maybe I AM being dramatic.

SOMETHING is wrong "behind the scenes" and that almost has to be it.

This team is too talented, and has proven it can beat ANYBODY -but fails to do so with any consistency.

The ONLY lackadaisical play I've seen on a recurring basis IS Leslie.

It sure as hell ain't Howell, or Brown, or Wood, or TJ or Purvis or Lewis....

I've defended remarks against Leslie this year, many times, but something about this kid's mindset, attitude or something is hurting the team.

IMO, sorry to say it.

fatherof3wolfpackers wrote: I think we should apply for membership in the SEC. Screw the acc.

sbofree wrote: Leslie doesn't finish well with contact. I think the way to play him is with a little guy who can stay in front of him...expose his ballhandling, shooting and footwork problems...body him a little and you have the makings of a bad day for Leslie.

Supersport wrote: I can see why he's frustrated. That was maybe the game of his life all things considered and it was for naught. He's stepped his game up by a mile, as has Rich, and probably can't understand why a frickin McD AA has gone backwards

sbofree wrote: We should reverse roles for Warren and Leslie...set plays for Warren to take a shot and let Leslie get his without the ball running through him.

hunwolf wrote:

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Whats wrong behind the scenes is folks are pissed about losing...thats whats going on behind the scenes.

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This.

Cadence wrote: Pretty sure he's talking about CJL

9mariowilliams90 wrote:

Cadence wrote: Pretty sure he's talking about CJL

Pretty sure he's not.  Pretty sure he's talking about the refs.

legacyman wrote: The refs did not cost us the game...we did it to ourselves and a less talented unc-ch squad was happy to take the gift.

It is very rare that we can say that we had more talent in the starting five than our biggest rivals and yet we squandered the chance to sweep the blue boys.  That more talent is mostly due to the solid base of talent left by Lowe for Gottfried to add to and mold into a squad that was preseason ranked sixth in the country.  

Now it is time for Gottfried to start coaching and earn that two million bucks he is paid.

TheLastMohican wrote: Refs have nothing to do with CJL being a turnover machine, or not wanting to pass the ball once he gets it down low.

alan76EE wrote:

TheLastMohican wrote: Refs have nothing to do with CJL being a turnover machine, or not wanting to pass the ball once he gets it down low.

This.

Turnovers and reckless one-on-one basketball squandered a very winnable game in the last 10 minutes.  Can't blame that stuff on the refs.

sumerelcnu wrote: Jesus guys, we've gone from preseason #6 in the country and favorites to win the ACC to unranked and hoping we can get a bye for the first round of the ACC.

This isn't b/c of officiating its and epic failure by the coaching staff and some members (cough) CJ (cough) of the team to step up and be leaders.

It's that ******* simple, quit ******* making excuses.

We probably are the biggest disappointment in the NCAA's this year.

We will be lucky to get a 6 seed.

sumerelcnu wrote: Jesus guys, we've gone from preseason #6 in the country and favorites to win the ACC to unranked and hoping we can get a bye for the first round of the ACC.

This isn't b/c of officiating its and epic failure by the coaching staff and some members (cough) CJ (cough) of the team to step up and be leaders.

It's that ******* simple, quit ******* making excuses.

We probably are the biggest disappointment in the NCAA's this year.

We will be lucky to get a 6 seed.

ISEWolfpack2010 wrote:

sumerelcnu wrote: Jesus guys, we've gone from preseason #6 in the country and favorites to win the ACC to unranked and hoping we can get a bye for the first round of the ACC.

This isn't b/c of officiating its and epic failure by the coaching staff and some members (cough) CJ (cough) of the team to step up and be leaders.

It's that ******* simple, quit ******* making excuses.

We probably are the biggest disappointment in the NCAA's this year.

We will be lucky to get a 6 seed.

Kentucky might be worse... but yeah, it's been a rough season.

sumerelcnu wrote: We deserve this **** when our AD hires a ******* ESPN basketball analyst as our coach, there is a reason he wasn't in coaching for the past few years!

******* crosseyed ************.

sumerelcnu wrote: We deserve this **** when our AD hires a ******* ESPN basketball analyst as our coach, there is a reason he wasn't in coaching for the past few years!

******* crosseyed ************.

Bryanth1a wrote:

Supersport wrote: I can see why he's frustrated. That was maybe the game of his life all things considered and it was for naught. He's stepped his game up by a mile, as has Rich, and probably can't understand why a frickin McD AA has gone backwards

Rodney will be just fine.  Keep in mind he's a freshman.

wolfpack821 wrote:

sumerelcnu wrote: We deserve this **** when our AD hires a ******* ESPN basketball analyst as our coach, there is a reason he wasn't in coaching for the past few years!

******* crosseyed ************.

You're title pretty much sums up every post you make. Why don't you take two Tylenol and sit the next couple of plays out.

legacyman wrote: Kentucky's downward turn is due to losing Noel...not a lack of effort.

Loucouldcoach wrote:

legacyman wrote: Kentucky's downward turn is due to losing Noel...not a lack of effort.

The are 2-1 without Noel with a gimme coming up to go 3-1 without him

LOL....I thought this thread would've died by now.

Should've.....

Statewolf wrote: There's been a problem with Leslie all year with exception of a few games.  His a-- would be warming the bench or staying at home, see how far that takes him in the NBA.  What I don't understand is how we continually get these ego-laden players and can't make team players out of them.  We have a long history of such!!!!  This is a Previous Coaching issue or lack of..

ribread wrote: Just reverse his user name:  UNC Leremus.  The latter is Swedish for "prick tease."   I suspect he's just trolling.

I will agree with one of his points.  Officiating hasn't caused 6 conference and 2 non-conference losses this year.  We've clearly under performed against expectations.  

At a certain point, you're nothing more than a product of your record.  We're starting to look more like an 8 loss team than we are a top 15 team.  I'd put us in the category of one of the more disappointing teams against preseason rankings this season.

Statewolf wrote: There's been a problem with Leslie all year with exception of a few games.  His a-- would be warming the bench or staying at home, see how far that takes him in the NBA.  What I don't understand is how we continually get these ego-laden players and can't make team players out of them.  We have a long history of such!!!!  This is a Coaching issue or lack of..