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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:14 PM
RE: Gottfried: "We're Disappointed"
Damn folks, Leslie will be fine. He is struggling right now. I'm sure he's not happy with his play.
Keep in mind that CJ put this team on his back last season and got us to the sweet 16. He was a huge part of our play down the stretch. This young man single handedly kept us in games and has been a force on both ends. He has had some bad games this season...it happens.
He can get it together and improve. IMO, he is trying to do too much and playing selfishly right now. It's not lack of effort. He is feeling the pressure of this being his final season(at least in his mind) and he is trying to do too much.
CJ is a smart kid with a great personality. Don't kick him while he is down!! Take a deep breath and step away from the ledge.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:18 PM
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GregMarmalard wrote: Why can't we just say heels played better and made the plays to win instead off blaming being tired and the refs. They kicked state's butt. Because some folks fail to see the obvious. The goats played harder and wanted it more. Didn't matter who they had on the floor, they outplayed State's players. State's team isn't a cohesive unit right now; and, after playing 27 games plus pre-season practice, it's difficult to understand why. The lineup changes roy has made recently with the goats have paid dividends so far. Two different teams headed in two different directions, it seems. As a State fan, it's sad, disappointing and something we have come to expect. Yet another typical underperforming team based on such high expectations. Such seems to be the common denominator with most all Wolfpack sports.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:39 PM
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IMHO The team disappoints because it is not as good as the sum of its parts. It is not due to lack of desire nor effort. Whether not being as good as the sum of its parts is due to lack of basketball IQ in key players, I do not know. I have observed since December that some players make poor decisions when under pressure. I think the coaching staff is excellent and probably doing everything possible. But you cannot coach height, quickness nor smart. I do not know but suspect that a rigid system would not work for this team. Would like to know what Wood alluded to in his 'not fatigue' statement but glad he has the brains not to make it public.
“I would still like to get a college degree someday,” he said. “But not at the University of North Carolina. They just wasted my time.”
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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:59 PM
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Izanewman wrote: Damn folks, Leslie will be fine. He is struggling right now. I'm sure he's not happy with his play.
Keep in mind that CJ put this team on his back last season and got us to the sweet 16. He was a huge part of our play down the stretch. This young man single handedly kept us in games and has been a force on both ends. He has had some bad games this season...it happens.
He can get it together and improve. IMO, he is trying to do too much and playing selfishly right now. It's not lack of effort. He is feeling the pressure of this being his final season(at least in his mind) and he is trying to do too much.
CJ is a smart kid with a great personality. Don't kick him while he is down!! Take a deep breath and step away from the ledge. This is the third year in a row I have heard this one. I don't know if he is happy with his play or not. Personally, I truly don't believe that he cares about team basketball. Calvin loves him some Calvin and all he wants to do is make Sportscenter with a tomahawk dunk. The turnovers alone are enough to drive me crazy, but his absolute refusal to play any defense makes my blood boil. My biggest wish for Leslie would be for him to just have a fraction of the "want-to" that Richard Howell possesses. |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:06 PM
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Izanewman wrote: Damn folks, Leslie will be fine. He is struggling right now. I'm sure he's not happy with his play.
Keep in mind that CJ put this team on his back last season and got us to the sweet 16. He was a huge part of our play down the stretch. This young man single handedly kept us in games and has been a force on both ends. He has had some bad games this season...it happens.
He can get it together and improve. IMO, he is trying to do too much and playing selfishly right now. It's not lack of effort. He is feeling the pressure of this being his final season(at least in his mind) and he is trying to do too much.
CJ is a smart kid with a great personality. Don't kick him while he is down!! Take a deep breath and step away from the ledge. We do need Leslie and hope he turns things around immediately. I disagree about the lack of effort though. Rebounding is about effort. The last five or so heel FTs attempts, he made litttle to no effort to keep his guy off the ball. That is what is maddening. I think it's what Gott called him out for by asking if Rich had to get 30 rebounds. When something sets Leslie off, this is just how he often reacts. It's a major character flaw he needs to correct if he is ever going to reach anywhere near his potential. |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:09 PM
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ArmandJ wrote: If CJ Leslie doesn't want to be a team player, he can get the hell off the team. Players hate when one guy is bringing them down. It's not obvious when they speak to the media, but it's obvious in play. No doubt.....I saw Brown and Howell glare at Calvin a couple of times during his turnover spree in the first half yesterday. I would SO put Calvin in time'out against Boston College and let him gain some perspective from the walk-on end of the bench........ The thing that frustrates me is that the Holes have beaten us for years simply because they were more talented. This year, we are clearly more talented than they are, but one of our "leaders" continues to crap the bed on a regular basis. |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:11 PM
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1965Wolf wrote:
Izanewman wrote: Damn folks, Leslie will be fine. He is struggling right now. I'm sure he's not happy with his play.
Keep in mind that CJ put this team on his back last season and got us to the sweet 16. He was a huge part of our play down the stretch. This young man single handedly kept us in games and has been a force on both ends. He has had some bad games this season...it happens.
He can get it together and improve. IMO, he is trying to do too much and playing selfishly right now. It's not lack of effort. He is feeling the pressure of this being his final season(at least in his mind) and he is trying to do too much.
CJ is a smart kid with a great personality. Don't kick him while he is down!! Take a deep breath and step away from the ledge. This is the third year in a row I have heard this one. I don't know if he is happy with his play or not. Personally, I truly don't believe that he cares about team basketball. Calvin loves him some Calvin and all he wants to do is make Sportscenter with a tomahawk dunk. The turnovers alone are enough to drive me crazy, but his absolute refusal to play any defense makes my blood boil. My biggest wish for Leslie would be for him to just have a fraction of the "want-to" that Richard Howell possesses. Leslie does seem more pleased with himself after a Sportcenter moment than he does contrite about squandering a possession. He may be a prima donna. I don't know him. But if Gott can point to any player that his staff has developed, it would be Richard Howell. His game is improved to the point, I would not be surprised to see someone draft him in the first round. He has developed into an excellent rebounder, a good shooter and a player we can count on not to foul out.
“I would still like to get a college degree someday,” he said. “But not at the University of North Carolina. They just wasted my time.”
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:13 PM
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the numbers for us without leslie on the floor vs. with him on the floor speak volumes. one guy loafing out of four screws everything up; offense, defense, spacing, and breaks. give me five guys trying any day. i'd rather see purvis try to play through the freshman wall than watch cj wander around lost, whining at the refs, and not giving a damn.
Their is still more to come. I cannot say but more is coming.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:18 PM
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wolfpackidoc wrote: You guys aren't getting it. This team is not emotional. Coach realizes that and feels like there are limited funds in the bank of emotion from which to withdraw. He's saving those withdrawals for the post season. Last years last-team-in emotion opened the Bank of Emotion's door. Note how passionate his tone was during our run vs during the season. Feels like he's doing the same now. Like Jimmy Johnson (cowboys coach not the driver) he's as much of a psychologist as a coach and may need to be with the players he inherited. Seems like the freshman he recruited are more emotionally invested so things may change over time.
He's obviously good at reading folks wants/needs or else he wouldn't be such a good recruiter.
(Disclaimer I may be saying this to simply give myself hope after yesterday). If this is correct he's a genius. Maybe he's just a good used car salesman? "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift and that's why they call it 'the present', so enjoy it."--Alice Morse Earle via Mike Ditka |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:20 PM
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oldtrenchfighter wrote: the numbers for us without leslie on the floor vs. with him on the floor speak volumes. one guy loafing out of four screws everything up; offense, defense, spacing, and breaks. give me five guys trying any day. i'd rather see purvis try to play through the freshman wall than watch cj wander around lost, whining at the refs, and not giving a damn. We're down by 10 in the second half with him in there, he goes out and we go up by 4. He comes back in and we go down by 17 or however many it was. He looks as if he doesn't care and if he doesn't care against UNC, he never will. I can't decide if he's more like the Tinman or Scarecrow. He is really playing himself out of the first round of the NBA. I'm starting to be afraid he may decide to wait another year. "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift and that's why they call it 'the present', so enjoy it."--Alice Morse Earle via Mike Ditka |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:24 PM
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"We/(insert player name here), will be fine". Wait until next year...the battle cry of NCSU. Remember this past offseason, after the tourney run and incoming recruiting class? Now all of a sudden mediocrity is a accepted, yet again and if you don't the 'stat-quo rangers show up to belittle your fandom. Typical.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:25 PM
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oldtrenchfighter wrote: the numbers for us without leslie on the floor vs. with him on the floor speak volumes. one guy loafing out of four screws everything up; offense, defense, spacing, and breaks. give me five guys trying any day. i'd rather see purvis try to play through the freshman wall than watch cj wander around lost, whining at the refs, and not giving a damn. The wandering around lost does not bother me as much as the squandered possessions when they get the ball into him and he does not try to read the situation. If guys come to help he just wheels (moving his pivot foot usually), steps on the line, gets stripped or charges. This does not deter him. The fact that it does not deter him bothers me.
“I would still like to get a college degree someday,” he said. “But not at the University of North Carolina. They just wasted my time.”
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:27 PM
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Fayettewuf wrote:
oldtrenchfighter wrote: the numbers for us without leslie on the floor vs. with him on the floor speak volumes. one guy loafing out of four screws everything up; offense, defense, spacing, and breaks. give me five guys trying any day. i'd rather see purvis try to play through the freshman wall than watch cj wander around lost, whining at the refs, and not giving a damn. The wandering around lost does not bother me as much as the squandered possessions when they get the ball into him and he does not try to read the situation. If guys come to help he just wheels (moving his pivot foot usually), steps on the line, gets stripped or charges. This does not deter him. The fact that it does not deter him bothers me. The opposing coach probably tells the other team. Just stay close and in front of him and he'll get frustrated and travel, charge or find some way to turn the ball over. If you could call bad shots turnovers then it would probably double the number he's had this year. "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift and that's why they call it 'the present', so enjoy it."--Alice Morse Earle via Mike Ditka |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:29 PM
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I hope everyone will realize that recruits read these posts, and it cannot be very helpful when people are so down on a player. I realize that some don't seem to care and it's more important to get it off your chests, but do try to at least tone it down a little. Most of us are mighty happy when the same player carries us to victory. It certainly has happened many times.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:32 PM
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52Fan wrote: I hope everyone will realize that recruits read these posts, and it cannot be very helpful when people are so down on a player. I realize that some don't seem to care and it's more important to get it off your chests, but do try to at least tone it down a little. Most of us are mighty happy when the same player carries us to victory. It certainly has happened many times. Oh Lawd, not the "recruits read these posts" line.  "If you want the truth, ask me". |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:34 PM
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Bryanth1a wrote:
52Fan wrote: I hope everyone will realize that recruits read these posts, and it cannot be very helpful when people are so down on a player. I realize that some don't seem to care and it's more important to get it off your chests, but do try to at least tone it down a little. Most of us are mighty happy when the same player carries us to victory. It certainly has happened many times. Oh Lawd, not the "recruits read these posts" line. Yes, they might find out before they get here that the coach is wasting a lot of talent and what could have been a final four or at least an elite eight season. "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift and that's why they call it 'the present', so enjoy it."--Alice Morse Earle via Mike Ditka |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:36 PM
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DJ9686 wrote:
Fayettewuf wrote:
oldtrenchfighter wrote: the numbers for us without leslie on the floor vs. with him on the floor speak volumes. one guy loafing out of four screws everything up; offense, defense, spacing, and breaks. give me five guys trying any day. i'd rather see purvis try to play through the freshman wall than watch cj wander around lost, whining at the refs, and not giving a damn. The wandering around lost does not bother me as much as the squandered possessions when they get the ball into him and he does not try to read the situation. If guys come to help he just wheels (moving his pivot foot usually), steps on the line, gets stripped or charges. This does not deter him. The fact that it does not deter him bothers me.
The opposing coach probably tells the other team. Just stay close and in front of him and he'll get frustrated and travel, charge or find some way to turn the ball over. If you could call bad shots turnovers then it would probably double the number he's had this year. Oh and the best part is when Wood's man comes to help...Wood is looking like the Maytag repairman and Leslie is oblivious as he travels/charges/steps on line.
“I would still like to get a college degree someday,” he said. “But not at the University of North Carolina. They just wasted my time.”
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:38 PM
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I just want to see each player give 100% even when he is having a tough game. Just give the effort!
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Posted: 2/24/2013 1:59 PM
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Fayettewuf wrote:
1965Wolf wrote:
Izanewman wrote: Damn folks, Leslie will be fine. He is struggling right now. I'm sure he's not happy with his play.
Keep in mind that CJ put this team on his back last season and got us to the sweet 16. He was a huge part of our play down the stretch. This young man single handedly kept us in games and has been a force on both ends. He has had some bad games this season...it happens.
He can get it together and improve. IMO, he is trying to do too much and playing selfishly right now. It's not lack of effort. He is feeling the pressure of this being his final season(at least in his mind) and he is trying to do too much.
CJ is a smart kid with a great personality. Don't kick him while he is down!! Take a deep breath and step away from the ledge. This is the third year in a row I have heard this one. I don't know if he is happy with his play or not. Personally, I truly don't believe that he cares about team basketball. Calvin loves him some Calvin and all he wants to do is make Sportscenter with a tomahawk dunk. The turnovers alone are enough to drive me crazy, but his absolute refusal to play any defense makes my blood boil. My biggest wish for Leslie would be for him to just have a fraction of the "want-to" that Richard Howell possesses. Leslie does seem more pleased with himself after a Sportcenter moment than he does contrite about squandering a possession. He may be a prima donna. I don't know him. But if Gott can point to any player that his staff has developed, it would be Richard Howell. His game is improved to the point, I would not be surprised to see someone draft him in the first round. He has developed into an excellent rebounder, a good shooter and a player we can count on not to foul out. Agreed. Without Howell, we have a Sidney Lowe type record and are on the NIT bubble. And any NBA draft guru should see that he is better than Leslie in everything other than hops.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:06 PM
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sbpack wrote: I just want to see each player give 100% even when he is having a tough game. Just give the effort! Same here and at least look like it bother's you when you make the same mistake over and over again.  "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift and that's why they call it 'the present', so enjoy it."--Alice Morse Earle via Mike Ditka |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:09 PM
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Bryanth1a wrote:
52Fan wrote: I hope everyone will realize that recruits read these posts, and it cannot be very helpful when people are so down on a player. I realize that some don't seem to care and it's more important to get it off your chests, but do try to at least tone it down a little. Most of us are mighty happy when the same player carries us to victory. It certainly has happened many times. Oh Lawd, not the "recruits read these posts" line. We just lost a recruit because of this thread.!!!!!!! 
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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:30 PM
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wolfbreath wrote:
Bryanth1a wrote:
52Fan wrote: I hope everyone will realize that recruits read these posts, and it cannot be very helpful when people are so down on a player. I realize that some don't seem to care and it's more important to get it off your chests, but do try to at least tone it down a little. Most of us are mighty happy when the same player carries us to victory. It certainly has happened many times. Oh Lawd, not the "recruits read these posts" line. We just lost a lackadaisical recruit because of this thread.!!!!!!!
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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:37 PM
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Try putting up with this **** for 20+ years, Coach.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:40 PM
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Gottfried
I am disappointed in the way we played the game during the last 8 to 10 minutes as well. However I am more disappointed in some of these so-called fans of the Wolfpack.
I hope the team will realize they let a game get away from them and concentrate on not making those same mental mistakes in their final four games of the season, ACC tournament and NCAA appearance.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 3:23 PM
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Seems like no matter if it's Sendek, Lowe, TOB, Amato, or Gott...we always seem to get players who have a low sports IQ
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Posted: 2/24/2013 3:30 PM
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NCSU1949 wrote: disappointed ? How about PISSED! What he said!! ^^^^^^
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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:22 PM
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we have fallen further than any team in the country. we have underachieved from the very 1st game. we still yet have put together a complete game. we are EXTREMELY close to being on the last 4 in list. we are 1 game away from 6th place in the acc. Maryland owns the tie breaker against us. you are the coach of this cluster **** ****. disappointed? nah coach its just one game will be fine. FOR THE 6TH TIME IN CONFERENCE PLAY! just like we are what our record says we are you are exactly 100% what Alabama said you would be. is anyone surprised that the Alabama team that made it to #1 in the country failed to make the tournament !
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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:28 PM
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coursedoctor wrote: we have fallen further than any team in the country. we have underachieved from the very 1st game. we still yet have put together a complete game. we are EXTREMELY close to being on the last 4 in list. we are 1 game away from 6th place in the acc. Maryland owns the tie breaker against us. you are the coach of this cluster **** ****. disappointed? nah coach its just one game will be fine. FOR THE 6TH TIME IN CONFERENCE PLAY! just like we are what our record says we are you are exactly 100% what Alabama said you would be. is anyone surprised that the Alabama team that made it to #1 in the country failed to make the tournament ! I don't know how we're close to being one of the last four in when we have a top 30 RPI and three top 30 RPI wins... Not to mention the fact we have two games against very bad teams at home and two extremely winnable games on the road.
I'm not very satisfied with how low key Gottfried is being right now in regards to certain players, but barring a complete collapse, we'l be in the tournament. May not be a good seed, but we'll be in.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:32 PM
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coursedoctor wrote: we have fallen further than any team in the country. we have underachieved from the very 1st game. we still yet have put together a complete game. we are EXTREMELY close to being on the last 4 in list. we are 1 game away from 6th place in the acc. Maryland owns the tie breaker against us. you are the coach of this cluster **** ****. disappointed? nah coach its just one game will be fine. FOR THE 6TH TIME IN CONFERENCE PLAY! just like we are what our record says we are you are exactly 100% what Alabama said you would be. is anyone surprised that the Alabama team that made it to #1 in the country failed to make the tournament ! LOLOLOLOL...damn Doc!!! You're a ruthless dude. Compared to how I criticized Sid, you make me seem like a ***** Cat. "If you want the truth, ask me". |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:37 PM
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coursedoctor wrote: we have fallen further than any team in the country. we have underachieved from the very 1st game. we still yet have put together a complete game. we are EXTREMELY close to being on the last 4 in list. we are 1 game away from 6th place in the acc. Maryland owns the tie breaker against us. you are the coach of this cluster **** ****. disappointed? nah coach its just one game will be fine. FOR THE 6TH TIME IN CONFERENCE PLAY! just like we are what our record says we are you are exactly 100% what Alabama said you would be. is anyone surprised that the Alabama team that made it to #1 in the country failed to make the tournament ! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOL |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:11 PM
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I agree Leslie is out there for Leslie. The thing that burns me up about Gottfried is that he pulls Tyler, Rodney or TJ out of the game for one mistake. He will finally pull CJ after 6 turn overs and then put him right back in the game. He killed us when he returned in the second half.
I would lose with the walkons playing before I would put up with Leslie's childish ways.
What happened to Tyler and Zo playing together? Lose with Freshman playing, not with selfish NBA wannabes!!
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:11 PM
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coursedoctor wrote: is anyone surprised that the Alabama team that made it to #1 in the country failed to make the tournament ! If only that were true,then maybe somebody would be surprised. But seeing that you made it up, probably not gonna find too many folks surprised
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:14 PM
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TheLastMohican wrote: Seems like no matter if it's Sendek, Lowe, TOB, Amato, or Gott...we always seem to get players who have a low sports IQ Perhaps it's time we stop assuming it's the players. _____________________
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:14 PM
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Yep I believe it was in 2003 when they achieved that ranking. They indeed made it to the tourney that year.
IIRC, the next season they made it to the Elite 8.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:21 PM
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oldtrenchfighter wrote: when are you going to put the team above cj leslie's feelings, coach? + eleventytrillion. This question should have been answered on the way back to Raleigh yesterday. |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:27 PM
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He is right! I knew when we turned down Billy Donovan, Bobby Knight and Adolf Rupp the 5th we would take a step back from where we were before we settled for Gottfried... Loucouldcoach wrote:
coursedoctor wrote: is anyone surprised that the Alabama team that made it to #1 in the country failed to make the tournament ! If only that were true,then maybe somebody would be surprised.
But seeing that you made it up, probably not gonna find too many folks surprised |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:35 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- 2packfans4ever wrote: oldtrenchfighter wrote: when are you going to put the team above cj leslie's feelings, coach? + eleventytrillion. This question should have been answered on the way back to Raleigh yesterday. --------------------------------------------- You guys assume the two are mutually exclusive. |
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:36 PM
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Disappointed, Gott? It might be more helpful if you got pissed off at the same thing happening over and over!!
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:49 PM
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rswilli2 wrote:
TheLastMohican wrote: Seems like no matter if it's Sendek, Lowe, TOB, Amato, or Gott...we always seem to get players who have a low sports IQ Perhaps it's time we stop assuming it's the players. Anyone that wants a high sports IQ can have one. Tyler Lewis probably has the highest sports IQ on the team. Know why? Because he realized very early on that he wasn't tall enough, quick enough, couldn't jump high enough, etc. so he had to understand and maximize his IQ of the game. The McD AA types have probably never had to resort to IQ because they just run by and jump over 99% of the kids they play in HS and AAU ball. Then they get to Div 1 and everybody is as good as they are. What happens then? Is it too late to develop a high basketball IQ? Absolutely not, but they are at a crisis point. If they don't develop the IQ side of the game they become a moderately successful bball player. If they will HUMBLE themselves and develop the IQ side of the game they can continue to grow. When you see a kid come to Div 1 and never get any better or that never develops an IQ for the game you can assume that that player is unteachable and uncoachable. Look at how Richard Howell has changed his game BECAUSE HE WAS TOLD BY GOTTFREID THAT HE WAS TOO HEAVY AND THAT HE NEEDED TO PLAY HARDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Richard is coachable and look how much he has improved! Look at CJL who I would bet my life has heard the same thing from Gottfreid but evidently has chosen to not take that advice. It is all about 2 things: *Be teachable *Be accountable Those that buy into being coachable and accountable will only get better. Those that don't well.............................if they don't change it will simply be too late for them.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:49 PM
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2packfans4ever wrote:
rswilli2 wrote:
TheLastMohican wrote: Seems like no matter if it's Sendek, Lowe, TOB, Amato, or Gott...we always seem to get players who have a low sports IQ Perhaps it's time we stop assuming it's the players.
Anyone that wants a high sports IQ can have one. Tyler Lewis probably has the highest sports IQ on the team. Know why? Because he realized very early on that he wasn't tall enough, quick enough, couldn't jump high enough, etc. so he had to understand and maximize his IQ of the game. The McD AA types have probably never had to resort to IQ because they just run by and jump over 99% of the kids they play in HS and AAU ball. Then they get to Div 1 and everybody is as good as they are. What happens then? Is it too late to develop a high basketball IQ? Absolutely not, but they are at a crisis point. If they don't develop the IQ side of the game they become a moderately successful bball player. If they will HUMBLE themselves and develop the IQ side of the game they can continue to grow. When you see a kid come to Div 1 and never get any better or that never develops an IQ for the game you can assume that that player is unteachable and uncoachable.
Look at how Richard Howell has changed his game BECAUSE HE WAS TOLD BY GOTTFREID THAT HE WAS TOO HEAVY AND THAT HE NEEDED TO PLAY HARDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Richard is coachable and look how much he has improved!
Look at CJL who I would bet my life has heard the same thing from Gottfreid but evidently has chosen to not take that advice.
It is all about 2 things:
*Be teachable
*Be accountable
Those that buy into being coachable and accountable will only get better. Those that don't well.............................if they don't change it will simply be too late for them. I disagree. I think some aspects of a sports IQ are hard wired. I don't think that you can teach the quick thinking that is a large part of sports IQ. If you have a rigid system, you can program players to do what they are to do in certain situations.
“I would still like to get a college degree someday,” he said. “But not at the University of North Carolina. They just wasted my time.”
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