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RE: Last season that has not been disappointing to you?

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Posted: 2/24/2013 9:59 AM

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I didn't leave out the WFU - that was a bad loss. Yes we've got more talent than we've had in years but guess what those other teams have talent as well. There is not a lot that seperates these teams especially when they have a game plan and are trying to win said game. Plus we've been in almost every game this season in the ACC.

Welcome to college basketball - this happens year in and year out to a lot of teams that don't have a HOF coach.

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^^ Maryland, UVA and UNC are not chopped liver - pickle - the quicker you accept that the better you will realize. Plus I think we win the UVA game with a healthy Zo

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I agree they're not bad teams but considering we have more talent than we've had in years and its a down year for Maryland and UNC, I consider those bad losses. And u left out Wake. And it's not even so much that we've lost to these teams as much as it is we just aren't playing good except for a few home games. The only games I've seen us come out and really play like we were hungry was the Duke game in Raleigh, the UNC game in Raleigh, the Miami game considering we were short handed, and the FSU game. Aside from that we've played down to the comp. we just don't seem hungry.

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I agree with everything you said. However this still has been the most disappointing season, so far, at I can remember. It's one thing to lack talent and lose a bunch of games, yes that's no fun. But in my opinion it sucks worse to have phenomenal talent and not be able to put it all together.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:10 AM

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When most of us don't live up to our expectations, we aren't given the leeway that some on here do to this team. We are called out on it, some have been fired, some see their income reduced substantially, or at the minimum, we are asked why we aren't performing and told to pick it up a notch or face the consequences.

Personally, I've been behind the team and will continue to root for them, but I am tired of the excuses. It isn't that we lost yesterday that disappointed me. I could live with a 5 point loss under the circumstance that we were up 4 with 5 to play, it happens, but that was some Herb Ball **** right there that we saw in those last 5 minutes. What, we got outscored, like 15-4 in the clutch? And we want excuses for that. That is FAILURE and we have seen it enough. Like others have said, we have for the most part not put 40 minutes together yet this season. 61 points against a team that is not too good defensively.

And Maryland and Virginia ARE chopped liver. These are teams that are barely bubble teams for the NCAA's. And we have played down to lower tier teams in at least half of our games. Love the team, but call it for what it is.

Sure, the season can be turned around, but it has so far been disappointing and it is getting awfully late to start turning it around.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:12 AM

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The most disappointing season so far? The season isn't even over. Some of you are real **********. I'm never going to be disappointed with a team that is going to be dancing and beat Duke/UNC in the same reason annnnnnnnnnnnd has the talent to make run in the tournament. What more do you ******* want? An undefeated, dominating basketball team that they just give the National Championship to at the end of the season? Some of you are down right clueless and completely unrealistic.

Almost 2 years removed from Lowe and some of you fools forget real quick where we've come from and what we had to deal with for 5 years. Pathetic.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:31 AM

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Drlada wrote: Always can count on Wolfer - now it will be interesting to see of these teams now not raked dont make the NCAA tourney.

What's amazing, per this board, were the only team with talent and should not have the collapse as such but those other teams are excused.

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Drlada wrote: Who else were preseason ranked and not in top 25 - Kentucky and UNC off the top of my head. They seem to be able to accept it better than us probably because they've tasted success.

I looked
Kentucky #2/#3
NC State #6/#6
unc-ch #11/#12
UCLA #13/#13
Missouri #15/#17
Creighton #16/#15
UNLV #18/#19
Baylor #19/#18
San Diego State #20/#20
UConn #23/not eligible
Cincinnati #24/#24 (tie)
Florid State #25/#24 tie
Texas NR/#24 tie

13 of the 26 teams (counting Texas and UCONN) that were in either AP or Coach's poll preseason were not ranked in February 18 polls

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and since someone will ask

teams NOT in preseason top 25 but in February polls with head coach

teams not in preseason top 25 ranked week of February 18
#2/#2 Miami - Jim Larranaga
#11/#11 Georgetown - John Thompson III
#13/#13 Kansas State - Bruce Weber
#14/#14 Oklahoma State - Travis Ford
#15/#15 Butler - Brad Stevens
#16/#16 New Mexico - Steve Alford
#17/#20 Marquette - Buzz Williams
#20/#20 Pittsburgh - Jaime Dixon
#21/#22 Colorado State - Larry Eustachy
#23/#23 Oregon - Dana Altman
#24/#24 Virginia Commonwealth -Shaka Smart

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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:32 AM

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I've pretty much said what I wanted already. I'm alright with the way we went into the ACC. I'm even alright with losing some of the games we lost we shouldn't. I am not alright that this team lacks mental toughness, constantly plays down to competition, and doesn't have it together come clutch time. This team isn't passing the sight and smell test. This is the time of year when things are supposed to be coming together and they aren't coming together and that is very disappointing. And this has nothing to do with Sidney Lowe. This is another team and I am not blaming this on Gott. Gott has put the team in positions to win and they aren't getting it done on the court.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:38 AM

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PretzelPack wrote: I've pretty much said what I wanted already. I'm alright with the way we went into the ACC. I'm even alright with losing some of the games we lost we shouldn't. I am not alright that this team lacks mental toughness, constantly plays down to competition, and doesn't have it together come clutch time. This team isn't passing the sight and smell test. This is the time of year when things are supposed to be coming together and they aren't coming together and that is very disappointing. And this has nothing to do with Sidney Lowe. This is another team and I am not blaming this on Gott. Gott has put the team in positions to win and they aren't getting it done on the court.
Yet you keep talking
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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:42 AM

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The most disappointing season so far? The season isn't even over. Some of you are real **********. I'm never going to be disappointed with a team that is going to be dancing and beat Duke/UNC in the same reason annnnnnnnnnnnd has the talent to make run in the tournament. What more do you ******* want? An undefeated, dominating basketball team that they just give the National Championship to at the end of the season? Some of you are down right clueless and completely unrealistic.

Almost 2 years removed from Lowe and some of you fools forget real quick where we've come from and what we had to deal with for 5 years. Pathetic.

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Agree with everything you said...
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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:51 AM

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If we don't finish in the top 4, this season will be a disappointing.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 10:55 AM

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WBinNYC wrote: Last season and Herb's team that beat Uconn are the only two I can count that weren't heartbreaking since I've been a fan. (Born in 81) this season may sting the worst thus far......
Actually that team was a lot like this team.  Ranked highly in early season (I think they were up to 9th in one poll) and then struggled.  Went 7-9 in ACC play.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:16 AM

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dsd27205 wrote:
WBinNYC wrote: Last season and Herb's team that beat Uconn are the only two I can count that weren't heartbreaking since I've been a fan. (Born in 81) this season may sting the worst thus far......
Actually that team was a lot like this team.  Ranked highly in early season (I think they were up to 9th in one poll) and then struggled.  Went 7-9 in ACC play.
Yep.  A lot of folks probably think the team that finished 2nd in the ACC in 2002-03 is the team that beat UConn in the tournament, but that team lost to Vandy in the 2nd round.  The team that beat UConn had the above conference record, but ended the season with 14 losses (to 21 wins).  A long way to go this year and I like the teams chances to do some damage in the tournaments, but I'd feel a lot better if they could avoid a Thursday game.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:25 AM

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WBinNYC wrote:
Hmmmmm, Did I say last season in my original post? Did I mention a herb's sweet 16 as another anomaly of Wolfpack bliss? Can ya read?

Point is, fans of my generation have continuously been disappointed by State athletics. Especially basketball. Though I'll never give it up, it's become an activity that you really have to take with a grain of salt. I mean, who likes being 2nd best or much less where State falls in the ACC in basketball in the normal year.

This year has been the worst by far due to expectations. I did expect, not to win but to compete for the regular season title.


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How did you feel about last season on February 23, 2012?

His did you feel about Herb's sweet 16 season on February 23rd of that year?

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Posted: Yesterday 11:00 PM

Last season that has not been disappointing to you? 


Last season and Herb's team that beat Uconn are the only two I can count that weren't heartbreaking since I've been a fan. (Born in 81) this season may sting the worst thus far......
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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:42 AM

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ArmandJ wrote: If we don't finish in the top 4, this season will be a disappointing.

country?
ACC?
North Carolina?
Wake County?

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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:44 AM

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dsd27205 wrote:
WBinNYC wrote: Last season and Herb's team that beat Uconn are the only two I can count that weren't heartbreaking since I've been a fan. (Born in 81) this season may sting the worst thus far......
Actually that team was a lot like this team.  Ranked highly in early season (I think they were up to 9th in one poll) and then struggled.  Went 7-9 in ACC play.
Yep. They got as high as Top 10 early on.

They also were the team that only scored 14 points in a half against St. Johns and need a win against WFU in the ACCT to even make the big dance. 

This board was in complete meltdown over that team.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:46 AM

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Last season.   We over-achieved.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:58 AM

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^ Agreed.  Last season is my answer.

As for this year, I was in the camp that never thought we would win the acc.  No chance.  Anybody who watched the acc tourney last year should have known that.  Those emotions and feelings amongst the ref fraternity were not going to simply go away when we moved to the next season.  The handling of the whole "KH" issue by the acc spoke volumes.

I just want the opportunity to get into the NCAA tourney with a reasonable seeding and then hope for the best.  The acc is simply a sham, imo.  I'll be glad when the acc season and tourney are over.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:59 AM

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wolfer79 wrote:
ArmandJ wrote: If we don't finish in the top 4, this season will be a disappointing.

country?
ACC?
North Carolina?
Wake County?
ACC

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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:19 PM

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I'm not disappointed this year..we haven't even played any tournament games so how could I make a judgement on the season? 12-6 seems like a great regular season to me and we can still do that. If I called every season a failure in which we've lost at the dean dome...
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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:29 PM

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wolfer79 wrote:
WBinNYC wrote:
I thought the point of playing was to hang banners.....

Not unless you are a NC State cross country or rifle fan

Football 1979
Men's Basketball 1987
Baseball 1992
Women's Basketball 1991
Men's Swimming and Diving 1992
Women's Swimming and Divining 1980
Men's Soccer 1990
Women's Soccer 1988
Men's Track & Field 1988 (indoor) 1996 (outdoor)
Women's Track & Field 1988 (indoor) no outdoor championships
Volleyball 1987
Men's Tennis 1979
Women's Tennis no conference championships
Men's Golf 1990
Women's Golf no conference championships
Softball 2006
Men's Cross country 2011
Women's Cross Country 2006
Wrestling 2007
Gymnastics (ECGL, ACC does not have championship) 2009
Rifle (SEARC, ACC does not have championship) 2012


Wolfer, how could you possibly have left out the BassPack?

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Posted: 2/24/2013 12:32 PM

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Wolfer, how could you possibly have left out the BassPack?
BassPack is a club team and was under Tom Stafford.

It has yet to be determined if Stafford's replacement, Mike Mullen, has the same commitment to fishing excellence.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 11:19 AM

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Seth Davis (Duke graduate, rumored hater of NC State)
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If N.C. State isn't the most disappointing team this season, it has to be one of the top three. The problem is not that these guys can't play good defense, it's that they don't want to.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 11:22 AM

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The Gator Bowl season in football was ultimately not disappointing.

Last season in basketball was not disappointing. That's the only one so far.

This season ties Sidney Lowe's bedcrapping in 2008 as far as disappointment goes.
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Posted: 3/1/2013 11:31 AM

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I am not positive, but I think you have to go back into the mid-80's somewhere to find the last time we won 20 regular season basketball games in back-to-back seasons.

Both last year, and this year are anything but disappointments to me.

Win our last 3 regular season games and I think people's attitudes will start changing real quickly.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 11:35 AM

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SidsSouljahBoy wrote: The most disappointing season so far? The season isn't even over. Some of you are real **********. I'm never going to be disappointed with a team that is going to be dancing and beat Duke/UNC in the same reason annnnnnnnnnnnd has the talent to make run in the tournament. What more do you ******* want? An undefeated, dominating basketball team that they just give the National Championship to at the end of the season? Some of you are down right clueless and completely unrealistic.

Almost 2 years removed from Lowe and some of you fools forget real quick where we've come from and what we had to deal with for 5 years. Pathetic.
Annnnnnnnnd was picked to finish first in the ACC yet will finish no higher than fifth barring a miracle.
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Posted: 3/1/2013 11:36 AM

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CalStabbinsGhost wrote: The Gator Bowl season in football was ultimately not disappointing.

Last season in basketball was not disappointing. That's the only one so far.

This season ties Sidney Lowe's bedcrapping in 2008 as far as disappointment goes.
Wait, you're equating that 15-16 season, when we finished dead last, to this season?

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Posted: 3/1/2013 11:40 AM

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wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
CalStabbinsGhost wrote: The Gator Bowl season in football was ultimately not disappointing.

Last season in basketball was not disappointing. That's the only one so far.

This season ties Sidney Lowe's bedcrapping in 2008 as far as disappointment goes.
Wait, you're equating that 15-16 season, when we finished dead last, to this season?

crazy

In terms of record, of course not.

In terms of not living up to expectations, yes.

EDIT: I should add that from 2008 to last season I didn't watch a single game of State basketball end to end. Lowe finally did it for me. So, there's that.
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wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:

I am not positive, but I think you have to go back into the mid-80's somewhere to find the last time we won 20 regular season basketball games in back-to-back seasons.

Both last year, and this year are anything but disappointments to me.

Win our last 3 regular season games and I think people's attitudes will start changing real quickly.


That's the interesting thing about basketball, I think.
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Posted: 3/1/2013 11:43 AM

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wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:

I am not positive, but I think you have to go back into the mid-80's somewhere to find the last time we won 20 regular season basketball games in back-to-back seasons.

it looks like 1974/75 and 1075/76 for back to back 20 win regular seasons

per media guide

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Posted: 3/1/2013 11:54 AM

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wolfer79 wrote:
wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:

I am not positive, but I think you have to go back into the mid-80's somewhere to find the last time we won 20 regular season basketball games in back-to-back seasons.

it looks like 1974/75 and 1075/76 for back to back 20 win regular seasons

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Wow.
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Posted: 3/1/2013 11:55 AM

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PretzelPack wrote: When most of us don't live up to our expectations, we aren't given the leeway that some on here do to this team. We are called out on it, some have been fired, some see their income reduced substantially, or at the minimum, we are asked why we aren't performing and told to pick it up a notch or face the consequences.

Personally, I've been behind the team and will continue to root for them, but I am tired of the excuses. It isn't that we lost yesterday that disappointed me. I could live with a 5 point loss under the circumstance that we were up 4 with 5 to play, it happens, but that was some Herb Ball **** right there that we saw in those last 5 minutes. What, we got outscored, like 15-4 in the clutch? And we want excuses for that. That is FAILURE and we have seen it enough. Like others have said, we have for the most part not put 40 minutes together yet this season. 61 points against a team that is not too good defensively.

And Maryland and Virginia ARE chopped liver. These are teams that are barely bubble teams for the NCAA's. And we have played down to lower tier teams in at least half of our games. Love the team, but call it for what it is.

Sure, the season can be turned around, but it has so far been disappointing and it is getting awfully late to start turning it around.

Both beat Duke at home as well.
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Posted: 3/1/2013 11:55 AM

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Is this a trick question? The last season that has not been a disappointment (to me) was 82-83.
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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:00 PM

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tmacerus wrote:
wolfer79 wrote:
wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:

I am not positive, but I think you have to go back into the mid-80's somewhere to find the last time we won 20 regular season basketball games in back-to-back seasons.

it looks like 1974/75 and 1075/76 for back to back 20 win regular seasons

per media guide
Wow.

Yeah, wow.

I thought maybe the 85 and 86 teams would have possibly won 20 each, but there weren't quite as many regular season games back then, and V's teams often lost several regualr season games, and peaked by March.

edit: Just looked it up, the '85 team won 19, and '86 won 18.

1986 team went 7-7 in league play, 18-11 overall. I know it will be argued, but to me that might have been the best team V put on the floor.

This year's team is a lot like that one.

great floor leaders: McMillan then, Brown now
good post players: Washburn and Shack then, Howell and CJ now
deadeye outside shooter: Bolton then, Wood now
slasher that gets in lane: myers then, Purvis now
do everything guy: Chucky Brown then, Warren now

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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:04 PM

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wolfer79 wrote:
wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:

I am not positive, but I think you have to go back into the mid-80's somewhere to find the last time we won 20 regular season basketball games in back-to-back seasons.

it looks like 1974/75 and 1075/76 for back to back 20 win regular seasons

per media guide
No, looks like 87/88 and 88/89
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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:08 PM

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If I'm honest, 1987......my senior year.

And I'm dang old.
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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:09 PM

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state95 wrote:
wolfer79 wrote:
wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:

I am not positive, but I think you have to go back into the mid-80's somewhere to find the last time we won 20 regular season basketball games in back-to-back seasons.

it looks like 1974/75 and 1075/76 for back to back 20 win regular seasons

per media guide
No, looks like 87/88 and 88/89

1989 was the Bob Wade ACC tournament debacle among other goodies, so that has to rank as disappointing especially given that then we expected to be good.
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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:11 PM

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To answer the question you really have to qualify it with conditionals:

Given the recent history of Wolfpack basketball (20+ years) - no, it hasn't been a disappointment.

Given our 2012-2013 talent level and expectations - yes, it's been a disappointment.  Given that we retained 4 starters and 95% of the scoring from a team that finished last season ranked 20th, and now currently aren't even sniffing the polls - how can it not be?

The fact that questions like this are put out there without conditionals leads to people talking past each other and disagreeing a lot more than otherwise.  (This holds true for politics as well as sports, BTW)
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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:14 PM

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Disagree.  This team could have accomplished much more than they have, I truly believe the talent is there to be sitting in the #1 position at this point, to think that we may finish #5 in the regular season is a disappointment.

Yes, we had our top players coming back and we added 3 McD AA, more than any other team in the nation.

This years recruiting class isn't as good as last years, unless we land Randle, and the informed amongst us say that is highly improbable.

Basically people are disappointed in the wasted opportunity that they had this year, a chance for something special.  Now that's not to say we can't make the FF, but realistically, right now as an 8/9 seed, that puts you playing the 1 seed to get back to S16, not overly promising, especially as we should have been at least a 4 seed which would have made a S16 much more likely.

People are disappointed, nothing wrong with that.
Pacfanweb wrote: There's something wrong with anyone who thinks this season is disappointing.

Again, this is a team that lost some senior leadership last year, and even with those seniors had to play our way into the NCAAT in the ACCT. Then got a couple of breaks and made it into the Sweet 16.

Lose the seniors, add some very talented freshmen, and suddenly we're supposed to be top 5, or top 10?

What idiot actually bought into that? And even if they did, who the hell doesn't now realize that pre-season hype was dead wrong? Everyone should have flushed those ridiculous expectations long ago. We're not there yet.
Still, we are ahead of where we were at this time last year. Far ahead. We are a lock for the NCAA's. That's a big step. Probably only the 2nd time since V was here.

The new kids have all been battle-tested, and are all now able to contribute when needed. We've split with Carolina and Duke. Played Michigan close. Beaten UConn in what was essentially a road game. Been in every loss with a chance to win except one.
Great recruiting class signed, that might get even better. More on the way after them.

Sure, losing to anyone is frustrating, especially a team like UNC that we are clearly better than if we both play our best games....but after all these years, I seriously have to question your intelligence if you are truly disappointed in this season.
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Posted: 3/1/2013 12:14 PM

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If we win out and get a first round bye in the tourney the disappointment would be all but gone.
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Posted: 3/1/2013 3:17 PM

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I was disappointed just a little until I used common sense.  We were worse than this last year at this time.  Most experts had us as an NIT team.  We could not beat UNC or Duke last year.  We lost what, 13 games last year.  We made the sweet 16 and that basically validated an other wise medicore season. 

This year we are a tad better and a final 8 appearance would have everyone going back and saying this was a great year.  20-8 for us is a good record.  Jimmy V had many teams, almost all, lose over 10 games.   I will not lie-I wanted a 28-29 win team and a 1st place regular season finish.  BuT it was not to be.  Based on what I have seen 20-8 is a good record. 

Warren, Lewis and Purvis are solid freshman and will become the cornerstone of future state teams but right now they are kids trying to gel with our veterans-great kids some nights and others-well they are freshman.  We lost experienced players in Painter and Williams.  Those were big losses from last year. 

As you can see from last night beating Virginia is not that easy-just ask Duke.  Virginia owned Duke and we almost won that game at Virginia.   Beating Duke and UNC at their place is tough any year and we were a block out away from beating Maryland and Miami.   

 Notice the four teams at the top-those teams have the 4 best coaches in the league.  I love Gott but give Larranaga that talent and watch out.  Roy is a good coach who recruits out of his mind.  K is k-nuff said.  Bennett is a great coach because he can win with whatever team  he seems to coach-the guy is a pure coach in every sense of the word "coach".   

I think the biggest disappointment may be that Leslie and Brown have not become progressively better from one year to the next.  Really good players last year and more of the same this year.  Most thought they would become All-American caliber players leading us to the promise land and along the way the freshman would fill in and spell a national title contender.

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Posted: 3/1/2013 3:30 PM

Re: Last season that has not been disappointing to you? 



CalStabbinsGhost wrote:
SidsSouljahBoy wrote: The most disappointing season so far? The season isn't even over. Some of you are real **********. I'm never going to be disappointed with a team that is going to be dancing and beat Duke/UNC in the same reason annnnnnnnnnnnd has the talent to make run in the tournament. What more do you ******* want? An undefeated, dominating basketball team that they just give the National Championship to at the end of the season? Some of you are down right clueless and completely unrealistic.

Almost 2 years removed from Lowe and some of you fools forget real quick where we've come from and what we had to deal with for 5 years. Pathetic.
Annnnnnnnnd was picked to finish first in the ACC yet will finish no higher than fifth barring a miracle.
Did you expect Miami to go undefeated for 13 games like that, though?

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Posted: 3/1/2013 3:43 PM

Re: Last season that has not been disappointing to you? 


From an overall strength and consistent good play? 1989.

No Regular Season (mythical) or ACC Championships since then that I can remember... but I'm starting to get old you know?
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