coursedoctor wrote: guys we are what our record says we are. we are a bubble team like it or lump it. its hard to.swallow. we have the talent it was suspose to be our . year. we pissed it away. its not a fluke every team except Florida state played better than expected. we are a middle class team in a weak conference. it sucks but that's who we are. only Kentucky has fallen further and now they have reason.

hunwolf wrote: The season that Gott and his staff prepare for has not even started.

hunwolf wrote: We are right where we should be.

It's not the teams fault they were vastly overrated at the beginning of the season.
Hard to fall when you are right where you should be.

coursedoctor wrote: guys we are what our record says we are. we are a bubble team like it or lump it. its hard to.swallow. we have the talent it was suspose to be our . year. we pissed it away. its not a fluke every team except Florida state played better than expected. we are a middle class team in a weak conference. it sucks but that's who we are. only Kentucky has fallen further and now they have reason.

We are not a bubble team - ratings after the loss are still comfortably IN the NCAA tourney field. Win out and there is not even a whisper of bubble.

We would have to go 2-2 and lose the 1st game of the ACCT and THEN we would probably be one of the last 4 in .

NOW though - we are not bubble and still have a good shot at being 4th seed for the ACCT (and avoiding the dreaded Thursday games).

GO PACK!!! BEAT BC!!!

I cheer for a team that will still make the NCAA's and has a decent shot of going far in both tourneys I have no idea who you are talking about when you say "we are a bubble team" because that is NOT NCSU this year or last year.

GO PACK!!!

ArmandJ wrote: Well, that makes little sense. You should coach every game like you're in the tourney, otherwise some guys get complacent.

You should read the chapter of V's book called "7-7 go to heaven" where he talks EXACTLY about this approach. This was what V did  - he planned the season around (in terms of picking opponents) winning enough games to get into the NCAA"s while playing hard enough teams to be ready to go far into the NCAA's . While the ACCT was important - and winning EVERY game was also important at the time - the overall goal for the season was to be IN the NCAA's and be ready to compete in the NCAA's.

So far this season we are right on track for both. There are things to work on - even when we win - and things to build on - even when we lose.

For example our rebounding was pretty good yesterday - ball handling was not.

We are in the position to get into the NCAA's no matter what happens in the ACCT. We are still in a position to end up as 4th seed and avoid the Thursday games -giving us a decent shot at winning the ACCT. We have either beaten (split with both blues) or come very close (close loss at UVA and home against Miami - both WITHOUT Brown) to beating all of the good teams in the ACC - if we play our 1st game on Friday in the ACCT we have as good a shot as anyone in the field.

As for the NCAA's - we will look even better against teams that don't know a lot about us - and with refs who don't know our "tendencies".

GO PACK!!! BEAT BC!!! 12-6 would be right where I was looking at pre-season.

adamant wrote:

I cheer for a team that will still make the NCAA's and has a decent shot of going far in both tourneys I have no idea who you are talking about when you say "we are a bubble team" because that is NOT NCSU this year or last year.

GO PACK!!!

backthepack93 wrote:

adamant wrote:

I cheer for a team that will still make the NCAA's and has a decent shot of going far in both tourneys I have no idea who you are talking about when you say "we are a bubble team" because that is NOT NCSU this year or last year.

GO PACK!!!

Last year we were a bubble team.  We were an 11 seed which is typically one of the last at-larges to make the tournament.  Just because we made the sweet 16 doesn't change that fact.  Or were you fully confident that we would be that last team listed?  Because according to the video, our basketball team sure wasn't confident... (BTW, I could watch that video 1000 times)

This year though, we are not a bubble team.  Just because we're not in the top 25 doesn't mean we're not comfortably in the NCAAT field.

We were not a bubble team last year! HOLY ****! How many times does this need to be said over the course of a season? We were well within the field no matter what anyone tells you. We were not even close to being one of the last teams picked. This information was and has been confirmed numerous times!

48wolfpacker wrote: Neither of us are bubble teams. Lol at the Pack fans that think we are, and lol at the Pack fans that were calling unc a bubble team a couple weeks ago.

backthepack93 wrote:

adamant wrote:

I cheer for a team that will still make the NCAA's and has a decent shot of going far in both tourneys I have no idea who you are talking about when you say "we are a bubble team" because that is NOT NCSU this year or last year.

GO PACK!!!

Last year we were a bubble team.  We were an 11 seed which is typically one of the last at-larges to make the tournament.  Just because we made the sweet 16 doesn't change that fact.  Or were you fully confident that we would be that last team listed?  Because according to the video, our basketball team sure wasn't confident... (BTW, I could watch that video 1000 times)

This year though, we are not a bubble team.  Just because we're not in the top 25 doesn't mean we're not comfortably in the NCAAT field.

I was fully confident that we were in - and since that was the last listing I was certain we were there. We were an 11 seed - meaning a 41-44th place team - but the last 8 or so in are lower than that. We were close to being "on the bubble" for much of the season - but from the point that dancecard starting making predictions -we were in every single prediction they had.

To me that is not the same as the years where we HAD to win at least 2 ACCT games to even get on the bubble.

Certainly this year we have been far from the bubble and even now are clearly in.

3-1 for the last 4 gets us in comfortably - 2-2 and a loss on Thursday of the ACCT and I would be worried but still think we would slide in.

I fully expect us to finish 11-7 or more likely 12-6 and make a good run into the ACCT and watching the selection show will be more about our brackets and matchups and who is the #1 in our division/etc.

GO PACK!!! BEAT BC!!!!!

A loss at home to BC would definitely be a bad way to go.

While I will take any win I will be disappointed if we do not get another double digit home win (from that game and the Wake game).

MattNicholson wrote: This is their best win of the year. Let that sit and marinate for a minute...

MattNicholson wrote: This is their best win of the year. Let that sit and marinate for a minute...

hunwolf wrote: I'm not making it up. Some staffs build teams to do great during the season and peak in January.

I've been told this staff specifically coaches and designs their plans for postseason while doing enough to get in the tourney.. He did the same at 'Bama.

hunwolf wrote: I'm not making it up. Some staffs build teams to do great during the season and peak in January.

I've been told this staff specifically coaches and designs their plans for postseason while doing enough to get in the tourney.. He did the same at 'Bama.

hunwolf wrote: 25% of their all-time tourney appearances were with Gott.

Their deepest run in the tourney ever was with Gott.

They have not won a game in the tourney since he left IIRC.

hunwolf wrote: 25% of their all-time tourney appearances were with Gott.

Their deepest run in the tourney ever was with Gott.

They have not won a game in the tourney since he left IIRC.

ncdoc wrote:

MattNicholson wrote: This is their best win of the year. Let that sit and marinate for a minute...

Based on RPI the UNLV win is the best of the year. I think they have an RPI of 14 as of today.