PackChem91 wrote: If we bring our defense, as we did for most of the FSU game, we'll be fine.  Don't be giving Hairston open looks at the 3.

Offensively, while its almost impossible for Warren to repeat, if he could at least get a handful of those garbage putbacks, that would be awesome.  Hopefully Brown will be at his best, and will take Paige off the dribble.  He's so effective when he tursn the corner, down the lane and that little running floater to the rim.

Juardis wrote:

ncdoc wrote:

Wolfdog6 wrote:

ncdoc wrote:

jrmac67 wrote: I say we win this one by 15-20.

I wish Vegas was as confident as you. I think I'd be willing to make a pretty substantial wager on UNC +15 at home.

It'll be around 6, since our overall records are similar.

I wouldn't touch UNC+6 or NCSU-6 unless a gun was pointed at my head.

I'll wait until after the game to ridicule anyone who has an opinion on the betting line...

packphinsfan wrote: Either way, the development of TJW is a real problem for UNC. We now have 3 bigs that can score. UNC has 3 ways to win 1)refs go nuts 2)hitting 3`s like madmen. or 3)we play like crap.
And 3 aint happnin`.

TruthBKnownReturns wrote:

Juardis wrote:

ncdoc wrote:

Wolfdog6 wrote:

ncdoc wrote:

jrmac67 wrote: I say we win this one by 15-20.

I wish Vegas was as confident as you. I think I'd be willing to make a pretty substantial wager on UNC +15 at home.

It'll be around 6, since our overall records are similar.

I wouldn't touch UNC+6 or NCSU-6 unless a gun was pointed at my head.

I'll wait until after the game to ridicule anyone who has an opinion on the betting line...

Anyone who bets for or against State should be ridiculed.  You really never know what you're gonna get with State.  You may as well bet on a coin toss.

DirkDigler wrote: UNC needs this win big time to get them in the tournament conversation. wouldn't be shocked to see the powers that be assist in keeping their post season hopes alive while diminishing ours.

DirkDigler wrote: UNC needs this win big time to get them in the tournament conversation. wouldn't be shocked to see the powers that be assist in keeping their post season hopes alive while diminishing ours.

DirkDigler wrote: UNC needs this win big time to get them in the tournament conversation. wouldn't be shocked to see the powers that be assist in keeping their post season hopes alive while diminishing ours.

Juardis wrote:

packphinsfan wrote: Either way, the development of TJW is a real problem for UNC. We now have 3 bigs that can score. UNC has 3 ways to win 1)refs go nuts 2)hitting 3`s like madmen. or 3)we play like crap.
And 3 aint happnin`.

Jeez people, TJW had one great game in the ACC.  One.  This does not a development make.  Packpride is simply the best at extrapolating from one data point.

packmba09 wrote: You guys who are confident that we'll win need to share some of what you're smoking.  Not one single time this season has this NCSU team shown it can beat a UNC caliber team on the road.  The Pack better be ready to battle for the full 40 minutes in this one.

9mariowilliams90 wrote: I say we put Leslie or Howell on Paige. He won't be able to score.

rowdy2000 wrote:

Juardis wrote:

packphinsfan wrote: Either way, the development of TJW is a real problem for UNC. We now have 3 bigs that can score. UNC has 3 ways to win 1)refs go nuts 2)hitting 3`s like madmen. or 3)we play like crap.
And 3 aint happnin`.

Jeez people, TJW had one great game in the ACC.  One.  This does not a development make.  Packpride is simply the best at extrapolating from one data point.

Hes had more than one great game. He scored 19 the last time we played the cheats, 21 against clemson, been in double figures 8/13 acc games.

Juardis wrote:

rowdy2000 wrote:

Juardis wrote:

packphinsfan wrote: Either way, the development of TJW is a real problem for UNC. We now have 3 bigs that can score. UNC has 3 ways to win 1)refs go nuts 2)hitting 3`s like madmen. or 3)we play like crap.
And 3 aint happnin`.

Jeez people, TJW had one great game in the ACC.  One.  This does not a development make.  Packpride is simply the best at extrapolating from one data point.

Hes had more than one great game. He scored 19 the last time we played the cheats, 21 against clemson, been in double figures 8/13 acc games.

so 19 and 21 are considered great games?  but if you want to go there, he's had 3 games with 0 points as well.

rowdy2000 wrote:

Juardis wrote:

packphinsfan wrote: Either way, the development of TJW is a real problem for UNC. We now have 3 bigs that can score. UNC has 3 ways to win 1)refs go nuts 2)hitting 3`s like madmen. or 3)we play like crap.
And 3 aint happnin`.

Jeez people, TJW had one great game in the ACC.  One.  This does not a development make.  Packpride is simply the best at extrapolating from one data point.

Hes had more than one great game. He scored 19 the last time we played the cheats, 21 against clemson, been in double figures 8/13 acc games.

Juardis wrote:

PackChem91 wrote: If we bring our defense, as we did for most of the FSU game, we'll be fine.  Don't be giving Hairston open looks at the 3.

Offensively, while its almost impossible for Warren to repeat, if he could at least get a handful of those garbage putbacks, that would be awesome.  Hopefully Brown will be at his best, and will take Paige off the dribble.  He's so effective when he tursn the corner, down the lane and that little running floater to the rim.

I don't think we brought our Defense vs. FSU and I really wish people would quit saying it.  FSU forgot to bring their Offense.  We looked good because FSU is bad.  If we shutdown UNC like we did FSU, IF, then I would say our defense has arrived as you alluded to.  Unfortunately, I don't think it has and the issues that have been plagueing us recently will continue to plague us.  We'll still win though  

PackHerb wrote:

EastChapelHill04Class wrote:

WolfPack55 wrote: The cheats will attack us with he dribble drive. The way we play "D" they will either score or both CJ and Big Rich will sit out most of the 1st half with foul trouble. If we tighten up on "D" on the dribble drive they will kick the ball out where they will shoot an unbelievable % of 3's because our idea of "D" on the three is to run at the shooter at least 2 seconds after the ball has left the shooter's hands. Even if we defend the 3 they will still shoot the best % they have all year because we are N.C. State and that is the way it goes for us.

See this is exactly what I mean about people on here wanting/expecting to lose just to fulfill their own gloom and doom prophecies. Pathetic.

55, I don't know what will happen vs. UNC-CH. We might win, we might lose, who knows? But I know this, it is depressing to read garbage like this on here routinely before big games and if this is honestly how you feel then don't even watch the game Saturday.

Don't even bother being a fan of NCSU actually...since you clearly await disappointment with them, find another hobby that makes you happy. The rest of us are going to be cheering on the Pack without waiting for the bottom to fall out.

It's not hoping to fulfill ones own gloom and doom prophecies, its just recognizing a pattern that has repeated itself for years on end, engraining the mentality of mediocrity into the program, its players and its fans.  The complete opposite of the holes and their fanbase who just know, somehow, someway they will pull yet another sharp, pointy W out of their collective, ragged and heavily tampered with arse hole!  Come on, you've seen it countless times.  The guy who is 2 of 32 in 3-pt. attempts on the season suddenly goes 4-5 against the Pack.  Or the team that shoots 20% from behind the arc for the season that somehow manages to knock down 10 of 12.  The career nights, often from clowns who have hardly contributed anything to their team until they take the court/field against the Pack. 
Or maybe its just the power of negative thinking.....some reverse psychology-type ****.  I guess we'll see come Saturday but its one of thoes deals where you think if you go ahead and prepare for the worst (which is what usually happens) it might not be so bad when it happens but of course it always is.  It certainly doesn't mean you don't watch, root like hell, cuss like a sailor and ***** about the blue bellies getting all the calls.  I reserve the right to do that no matter what!

MattRivNCSU wrote: If they play a small lineup, we will absolutely maul them inside.  Do you really think Flopadoo and Hairston will have any luck trying to keep Howell and Calvin from scoring 50+ between them?  As long as we stay out of foul trouble, play within the offense and keep them from hitting like 12-15 3's we should beat them.  We should have no trouble scoring.  If the holes want to run, we'll run them to death and beat their brains in around the basket.

The other damning thing is that Lorenzo makes Paige look silly and there is no chance he can guard him driving to the basket and he creates havoc in the passing lanes.  Even with Tyler in there, he and Paige are similar in size (albeit MP is quicker) so we aren't facing a mismatch there.

I agree with all of this. I think we win big tomorrow.

Here - though - is my daydream about the perfect way to play it tomorrow.

We come out for warmups and during those Brown pulls up like he re-hurt his ankle - goes to the locker room - comes out in a boot - limping and sits on the bench.

We start with Tyler as pg - Paige is excited not to face Brown - but finds that Tyler is better than he thought - we match intensities and keep pace with them for the 1st 5 minutes - maybe get down 2 or 3.

Then we send Zo into the locker room (limping all the way) - where he can warm up and run around unobserved - then he limps back and is put in the game.

He limps to the scorer's table - checks in - limps over to the court and then the whistle blows - and he blows right by Paige at full speed to dunk it and the game is ON.

UNC is behind by 20 at the half and never gets any closer than 15 the whole second half.

That is my daydream of the perfect way to pay back those @#(*@(#* for so many "injured"' players up lit us up in the past.

Plus seeing the joy on Paige's face - and the smirk watching Zo limp out to play erased in an instant when he realized that Zo is full speed would be priceless.

GO PACK!!! BEAT THE CHEATS!!!!!!!!!!!!

JeepingWolf wrote: I think they went small against us in the 2nd half in Raleigh and almost came back from 27 points down... Hairston and Bullock tore us up.

Juardis wrote:

rowdy2000 wrote:

Juardis wrote:

packphinsfan wrote: Either way, the development of TJW is a real problem for UNC. We now have 3 bigs that can score. UNC has 3 ways to win 1)refs go nuts 2)hitting 3`s like madmen. or 3)we play like crap.
And 3 aint happnin`.

Jeez people, TJW had one great game in the ACC.  One.  This does not a development make.  Packpride is simply the best at extrapolating from one data point.

Hes had more than one great game. He scored 19 the last time we played the cheats, 21 against clemson, been in double figures 8/13 acc games.

so 19 and 21 are considered great games?  but if you want to go there, he's had 3 games with 0 points as well.