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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:10 PM
Heels Playing Small Ball
I feel really, really, good about our chances Saturday if Roy continues to go with a small lineup.
Over the past 2 games Carolina has gone with a lineup consisting primarily of:
Paige
Strickland
Bullock
Hairston
McAdoo
McDonald is getting the most minutes off the bench. Johnson & Hubert are barely playing. The Heels seem content with running and jacking up 3's (19-48).
Is it me, or does this play into our hands? We have been POUNDING the ball inside over the last 2 games, getting to the line 74 times (56-74) while going 12-26 from 3.
In short...we have been EFFICIENT....while it seems as if the Heels are operating more in the land of quantity over quality.
Them wanting to get out and run plays to our strength. Hoisting 3's will keep them off the line and hopefully us out of foul trouble. Unless they are on fire there will be a lot of rebounds to be had giving us opportunities to RUN, RUN, RUN.
Going small inside plays to our strength again. Seems like Howell might get McAdoo if they run this lineup....which would be scary....if McAdoo shot from deep but he's more an intermediate range around the basket type player. Leslie is quick enough to stay with McAdoo or Hairston. We've got Warren as well that could check either. On the flip I can't see either player checking Howell or Leslie. Remember the San Diego State game last year and how going small went for them?
We've got enough guard depth with the emergence of Lewis and Purvis salivating for a get out and run type game.
Roy can't possibly go with this strategy vs. the Pack can he? It might work against the Georgia Tech big men....even though the Heels shot less than 40%....but I just can't see it working out very well for them vs. the Pack.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:15 PM
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I don't ever feel good about this until the buzzer sounds.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:19 PM
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Yeah I never have a good feeling playing against UNC.
Wouldn't surprise me if they just attack the basket off the dribble and try to get our big men in foul trouble, or if they just launch 3's like they did against us in the 2nd half of the first game when they couldn't miss.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:19 PM
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I tend to agree with about everything in there.
If they are on fire from 3, and we don't get out on them, it will be a long day for us. But if we hedge off those screens, stay in Bul-lock and Hairyston's faces, we will beat them.
Also, we MUST block out. If they start jacking, and missing, Howell, Leslie, Warren and the like must go get the ball first, then go upcourt.
3 main factors for us to win.
1) make them take forced 3s
2) rebound, rebound, rebound
3) limit turnovers
btw: Is Joel James still on team? I haven't taken the time to look for him on sidelines, but he hasn't played a minute in last 2 games. I'm sure it's just a result of the guard-oriented lineup, but I'd think their second biggest body down low would play a few minutes here and there. "Every single day, in every walk of life, ordinary people do extraordinary things.!!" |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:20 PM
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I think they went small against us in the 2nd half in Raleigh and almost came back from 27 points down... Hairston and Bullock tore us up.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:21 PM
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For them, it's all about the 3 ball. If the outside shots fall, they are hard to beat. If not, they can be beaten by pounding in down inside. GT was too dumb to recognize that and panicked when the heels made their run to start the second half. I think NCSU will be ready. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:22 PM
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They better hit their 3's. You don't want to give up long rebounds to Zo.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:23 PM
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Watch how badly Hairston gets abused by Leslie or Howell in the post. We will be one of the only teams in the ACC that can make them pay for playing him at the 4.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:26 PM
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Hell we don't have big, Leslie might be 6'7" ish. Now with the proper mental framework he will wreak your party. Howell is maybe 6'6" or 6'7" in shoes. We can play your small ball with the smallest out there at 6'5" in Brown and Warren at the 2 some. Wood is 6'5" ish.
Bring it Holes. we cannot play "big ball", the question is can we play D? against them? I say yes!
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:26 PM
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we blew out UNC last game until we got tired
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:28 PM
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It is going to be challenging for us on the defensive end. Obviously Howell has to guard McAdoo (although that is a tough match-up for him), then who does CJL guard Hariston? What about TJW when he is in?
On the flip side, how do they match-up with us on the defensive end?
Like I said on the other thread, it is going to be interesting to watch, this game is going to be like a chess match between coaches.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:28 PM
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"btw: Is Joel James still on team? I haven't taken the time to look for him on sidelines, but he hasn't played a minute in last 2 games. I'm sure it's just a result of the guard-oriented lineup, but I'd think their second biggest body down low would play a few minutes here and there."
James has missed last couple of games due to a concussion earlier...haven`t heard if he is expected to play Saturday.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:30 PM
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wulfpackbaseball9 wrote:
btw: Is Joel James still on team? I haven't taken the time to look for him on sidelines, but he hasn't played a minute in last 2 games. I'm sure it's just a result of the guard-oriented lineup, but I'd think their second biggest body down low would play a few minutes here and there.
He suffered a concussion and has missed the last three games. No idea if he will be available on Saturday. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:30 PM
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I predict more of the same as we saw at the PNC. They just don't match up well with us. Expect an *** whipping and watch those cardigan wearing baby blue sissies head for the exits with 5 minutes left in the game.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:32 PM
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packwad97 wrote: It is going to be challenging for us on the defensive end. Obviously Howell has to guard McAdoo (although that is a tough match-up for him), then who does CJL guard Hariston? What about TJW when he is in?
On the flip side, how do they match-up with us on the defensive end?
Like I said on the other thread, it is going to be interesting to watch, this game is going to be like a chess match between coaches. If Leslie will go out and guard the three point line he can guard Hairston athletically. LOL at McAdoo being a tough guard for anyone. Over hyped and overrated. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:36 PM
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package2 wrote: we blew out UNC last game until we got tired Until they hit a bunch of amazing 3's in a row. Last game, we got McAdoo in quick foul trouble. I think we try to do it again by pounding inside early. We better tighten up our perimeter D and fight through the screens. We also killed them in transition last game. I feel good about our transition game. I feel good about Leslie and Howell going inside with Warren getting his usual clean-up shots. I don't feel good about us defending the 3 and taking care of the ball in half court. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:37 PM
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We'll be forced to go "small" when Howell picks up his 2nd foul at the 15 min mark
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:40 PM
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I like the way we match up with the heels. They like to run and we can out run them. As others have stated we just need to defend the 3 from Bullock and Hairston. Macadon't doesn't worry me, neither does Strickland or Paige.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:41 PM
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jds0881 wrote:
packwad97 wrote: It is going to be challenging for us on the defensive end. Obviously Howell has to guard McAdoo (although that is a tough match-up for him), then who does CJL guard Hariston? What about TJW when he is in?
On the flip side, how do they match-up with us on the defensive end?
Like I said on the other thread, it is going to be interesting to watch, this game is going to be like a chess match between coaches. If Leslie will go out and guard the three point line he can guard Hairston athletically. LOL at McAdoo being a tough guard for anyone. Over hyped and overrated. You are correct, I should have probably worded that different. However, McAdoo is very active, moves around a lot, and is athletic. IMO he is more active than a lot of the big guys that Howell has guarded. Howell needs to stay out of foul trouble and box him out. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:45 PM
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It does not matter who plays......its the number and it is almost always 8 on 5.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:47 PM
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JeepingWolf wrote: I think they went small against us in the 2nd half in Raleigh and almost came back from 27 points down... Hairston and Bullock tore us up. Add MacDonald to that now. They may kill us with their screens for open 3's at the top of the key. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:47 PM
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Otter74 wrote: We'll be forced to go "small" when Howell picks up his 2nd foul at the 15 sec mark FTFY |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:55 PM
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Otter74 wrote: We'll be forced to go "small" when Howell picks up his 2nd foul during the player introductions. FTFY.....
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:57 PM
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graywolf4life wrote: It does not matter who plays......its the number and it is almost always 8 on 5. yep. Heels prolly won't be called for a foul for at least the first 10 minutes of the game. will prolly have double the FT attempts too. Craig may not say much, but when it comes to giving people the middle finger, he's a real expert.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:00 PM
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Last time we played them, Leslie attacked McAdoo and picked up two quick fouls on him. No reason not to try that again. No dipsy-doo acrobatic shots. Attack the rim...force the refs to call the fouls.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:02 PM
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UNC used the smaller lineup against Duke/Plumlee & Co. and lost by 5 on the road. What was most impressive to me in their game against was UNC's defense. Smothered the perimeter and McAdoo bothered Plumlee's game (for a half). UNC also shot well.
UNC put up 93 points on UVA last week which is the most points UVA has given up this year.
Hairston and Bullock are both good shooters and our 3 point defense has not been good (to put it mildly).
We really need a good game out of Zo. He has to dominate Paige for us to win.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:04 PM
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Title should be changed to "Heels play with small balls"
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:05 PM
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JCbleedsRED wrote: Last time we played them, Leslie attacked McAdoo and picked up two quick fouls on him. No reason not to try that again. No dipsy-doo acrobatic shots. Attack the rim...force the refs to call the fouls. In the Nose Dome CJL will be hit with 2 quick charge calls then. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:09 PM
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BuffettPack wrote: UNC used the smaller lineup against Duke/Plumlee & Co. and lost by 5 on the road. What was most impressive to me in their game against was UNC's defense. Smothered the perimeter and McAdoo bothered Plumlee's game (for a half). UNC also shot well.
UNC put up 93 points on UVA last week which is the most points UVA has given up this year.
Hairston and Bullock are both good shooters and our 3 point defense has not been good (to put it mildly).
We really need a good game out of Zo. He has to dominate Paige for us to win. They also benefited from playing Hairston against Jefferson and Hairston. IMO we are one of the few teams that can make them pay big time for playing Hairston at the 4. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:09 PM
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You guys who are confident that we'll win need to share some of what you're smoking. Not one single time this season has this NCSU team shown it can beat a UNC caliber team on the road. The Pack better be ready to battle for the full 40 minutes in this one.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:10 PM
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graywolf4life wrote: It does not matter who plays......its the number and it is almost always 8 on 5. I know that's the perception in many of your minds but based on the past 10 games UNC only shoots 4 more FT's per game than NC State in H2H games. Factor in Carolina has had bigs like Hansbrough, Thompson, Zeller, Henson and Ed davis over that period it's not hard to fathom that they would shoot more FT's. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:11 PM
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Gott said it himself.....
"They have to guard us too"
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:12 PM
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packmba09 wrote: You guys who are confident that we'll win need to share some of what you're smoking. Not one single time this season has this NCSU team shown it can beat a UNC caliber team on the road. The Pack better be ready to battle for the full 40 minutes in this one. Not smoking anything...just don't sit around with a "woe is me" attitude. I personally do not think UNC should be on the same court as us this year. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:18 PM
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jds0881 wrote:
packmba09 wrote: You guys who are confident that we'll win need to share some of what you're smoking. Not one single time this season has this NCSU team shown it can beat a UNC caliber team on the road. The Pack better be ready to battle for the full 40 minutes in this one. Not smoking anything...just don't sit around with a "woe is me" attitude. I personally do not think UNC should be on the same court as us this year. Neither should Wake, Virginia, Clemson, Maryland or BC but, all either beat NC State or had chances to win late in the game. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:18 PM
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JCbleedsRED wrote: Last time we played them, Leslie attacked McAdoo and picked up two quick fouls on him. No reason not to try that again. No dipsy-doo acrobatic shots. Attack the rim...force the refs to call the fouls. In the Nose Dome CJL will be hit with 2 quick charge calls then. True. What are the odds that CJL gets a technical? |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:24 PM
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ncdoc wrote:
graywolf4life wrote: It does not matter who plays......its the number and it is almost always 8 on 5.
I know that's the perception in many of your minds but based on the past 10 games UNC only shoots 4 more FT's per game than NC State in H2H games. Factor in Carolina has had bigs like Hansbrough, Thompson, Zeller, Henson and Ed davis over that period it's not hard to fathom that they would shoot more FT's. I'm not saying 8 on 5, but if we finally draw the Hessian, you can bet your *** it will be 6 on 5. Life long Wolfpack Fan....Alumni Class of 1989
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:27 PM
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WOLFDAC wrote:
ncdoc wrote:
graywolf4life wrote: It does not matter who plays......its the number and it is almost always 8 on 5.
I know that's the perception in many of your minds but based on the past 10 games UNC only shoots 4 more FT's per game than NC State in H2H games. Factor in Carolina has had bigs like Hansbrough, Thompson, Zeller, Henson and Ed davis over that period it's not hard to fathom that they would shoot more FT's.
I'm not saying 8 on 5, but if we finally draw the Hessian, you can bet your *** it will be 6 on 5. I don't think you guys will see Hess for a good 12-18 months from last year. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:29 PM
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I say we have 4 players with 3 fouls at the half. This will not be a "let them play" game by the refs.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:32 PM
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JCbleedsRED wrote:
backthepack93 wrote:
JCbleedsRED wrote: Last time we played them, Leslie attacked McAdoo and picked up two quick fouls on him. No reason not to try that again. No dipsy-doo acrobatic shots. Attack the rim...force the refs to call the fouls. In the Nose Dome CJL will be hit with 2 quick charge calls then. True. What are the odds that CJL gets a technical? Zero, if he stops barking at the refs.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:33 PM
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ncdoc wrote:
WOLFDAC wrote:
ncdoc wrote:
graywolf4life wrote: It does not matter who plays......its the number and it is almost always 8 on 5.
I know that's the perception in many of your minds but based on the past 10 games UNC only shoots 4 more FT's per game than NC State in H2H games. Factor in Carolina has had bigs like Hansbrough, Thompson, Zeller, Henson and Ed davis over that period it's not hard to fathom that they would shoot more FT's.
I'm not saying 8 on 5, but if we finally draw the Hessian, you can bet your *** it will be 6 on 5. I don't think you guys will see Hess for a good 12-18 months from last year. As I understood the "truce", it was that he would not "ref" any of our home games this season, and it has been close to a year since he did one of our games. Plus, I would not put it past the ACC brass to do something like that. Life long Wolfpack Fan....Alumni Class of 1989
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