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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:15 AM
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Sec17WufPacker wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
wrcwolf wrote: Shalala response indicates that Miami will battle this extremely hard. A stronger statement than what USC gave when they were delivered their NOA. A statement that was used against USC by the COI. My guess is that they come up on the better end than the Trojans.
Comparing UNC to Miami is not worthwhile. Totally different cases and the NCAA doesn't want to open up the sham of the salaries they are paying their employees, the athletes. Totally agree.
Will be interesting to see what the NCAA suggests as punishment, Miami sit out a 3rd bowl year? Miami self imposed 2, seems like losing a few ships @ most & time served because if they sit 3, is the NCAA really saying Miami's almost as bad a Penn State?
How does the NCAA decide punishments, spin a big wheel like on the Price is Right? All the **** that Miami was doing...after being punished before? Don't you think this is cause for the death penalty? Loss of 15 scholarships a year, 2/3 year post season ban, and loss of revenue. They had people pay for abortions, took recruits on boats that had prostitutes, paid players. I mean, they did it all. What about all the **** UNC was & is still doing?
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:16 AM
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ncsumeb728 wrote: Does anyone here doubt LOIC for UNC? ftfy & Nope!
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:22 AM
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Planet Boulder wrote: Expect a statement from Swoffy shortly. "We'll get to the bottom of the mess at Miami. By the way, there's still nothin' to see at Chapel Hill."
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:34 AM
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You know, I believe the ACC has power too. Are they still all banded together to let UNC slide?
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:39 AM
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Chilkie wrote: Yes, the NCAA is a joke and chooses to selectively enforce the rules. Change definitely needs to occur. However, Miami is one of the last programs which should whine and complain about getting caught.
That program was a cesspool and it is hard to believe that neither the football or basketball coaches had any idea of what was going on between their players and Shapiro.
There is no doubt that UNC has been getting away with murder, and it is a shame, but it does not make me feel bad that Miami was caught. The ACC school with the far larger complaint regarding NCAA penalties levied would be Ga Tech IMHO. I agree with this. unc-cheat has basically skated with infractions (imo) worse than Miami because they were so systemic and insidious in how they have abused the system for so many years. Miami certainly is not innocent and probably deserve what they will get. But they do have a right to be incensed at the inconsistent way that the NCAA is handing out judgement. GaTech is the one that really has a big case for how hard they were hammered for so minor an infraction that ultimately was rectified by them before the NCAA got involved. What will be interesting to see is if the Swoff takes any action to defend Miami, does nothing, or piles on. The reaction to his reaction could spell trouble for him. I am hoping he censures Miami, or at least does nothing to help him, and the rest of the ACC sees his hypocrisy. --------------------------------------------------------------
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:39 AM
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Does this have potential impact on the great season the basketball team is having?
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:43 AM
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metrowolf wrote:
Planet Boulder wrote: Expect a statement from Swoffy shortly. "We'll get to the bottom of the mess at Miami. By the way, there's still nothin' to see at Chapel Hill." The Swoff will want to add additional charges to Miami and not comment when asked about UNC. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:47 AM
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I'm sure Shalala will appreciate Swoff going to the NCAA offices with her.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:49 AM
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No, the Swoff better keep his pie hole closed this time, or Captain Hypocrite will be riding high in the saddle again, however, that stooge most likely has alot of pent up frustration. Hell, he made no stink about the ***** billboard outside of Charlotte, hell that pompous *** most likely signed off on it.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:52 AM
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Everyone knows that UNC can't get hit with LOIC. They should be hit with Full Institutional Control of Cheating.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:54 AM
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------------------------------------- --- Sec17WufPacker wrote: BlackRazor wrote:
wrcwolf wrote: Shalala response indicates that Miami will battle this extremely hard. A stronger statement than what USC gave when they were delivered their NOA. A statement that was used against USC by the COI. My guess is that they come up on the better end than the Trojans.
Comparing UNC to Miami is not worthwhile. Totally different cases and the NCAA doesn't want to open up the sham of the salaries they are paying their employees, the athletes. Totally agree.
Will be interesting to see what the NCAA suggests as punishment, Miami sit out a 3rd bowl year? Miami self imposed 2, seems like losing a few ships @ most & time served because if they sit 3, is the NCAA really saying Miami's almost as bad a Penn State?
How does the NCAA decide punishments, spin a big wheel like on the Price is Right? All the **** that Miami was doing...after being punished before? Don't you think this is cause for the death penalty? Loss of 15 scholarships a year, 2/3 year post season ban, and loss of revenue. They had people pay for abortions, took recruits on boats that had prostitutes, paid players. I mean, they did it all. --------------------------------------------- Only problem with your statement is the NCAA couldn't corroborate any of it. Even after two and a half years of digging, there was nothing they could find about all the more sensational accusations. You may choose to believe the incredibly sensationalized yahoo story, but there's no evidence any of it ever happened. Shapiro supposedly handed over boxes of "evidence" but the NCAA still couldn't corroborate any of it? |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:57 AM
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BostonWolf wrote: The NCAA was so mad at Carolina they put Miami on probation.
High Five!
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:58 AM
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So when does the Miami BOT/ A.D. Dept/ big boosters get the UNC primer from Manalishi?
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:59 AM
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--- Sec17WufPacker wrote:
BlackRazor wrote:
wrcwolf wrote: Shalala response indicates that Miami will battle this extremely hard. A stronger statement than what USC gave when they were delivered their NOA. A statement that was used against USC by the COI. My guess is that they come up on the better end than the Trojans.
Comparing UNC to Miami is not worthwhile. Totally different cases and the NCAA doesn't want to open up the sham of the salaries they are paying their employees, the athletes. Totally agree.
Will be interesting to see what the NCAA suggests as punishment, Miami sit out a 3rd bowl year? Miami self imposed 2, seems like losing a few ships @ most & time served because if they sit 3, is the NCAA really saying Miami's almost as bad a Penn State?
How does the NCAA decide punishments, spin a big wheel like on the Price is Right? All the **** that Miami was doing...after being punished before? Don't you think this is cause for the death penalty? Loss of 15 scholarships a year, 2/3 year post season ban, and loss of revenue. They had people pay for abortions, took recruits on boats that had prostitutes, paid players. I mean, they did it all.
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Only problem with your statement is the NCAA couldn't corroborate any of it. Even after two and a half years of digging, there was nothing they could find about all the more sensational accusations. You may choose to believe the incredibly sensationalized yahoo story, but there's no evidence any of it ever happened. Shapiro supposedly handed over boxes of "evidence" but the NCAA still couldn't corroborate any of it? That's exactly what I heard, a few weeks ago Marc from 620 out of Charlotte said the players @ Miami were not helping the NCAA's case. So the NCAA really bases their entire case on some proven crook? I can't believe the NCAA wanted to test another school this quickly - especially after they just admitted they screwed up in this Miami case less than a week ago.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:00 AM
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Miami should have been hit with LOIC. UNC should have as well.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:07 AM
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BostonWolf wrote: The NCAA was so mad at Carolina they put Miami on probation. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:18 AM
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BlackRazor wrote:
CaneZach wrote: -------------------------------------
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BlackRazor wrote:
wrcwolf wrote: Shalala response indicates that Miami will battle this extremely hard. A stronger statement than what USC gave when they were delivered their NOA. A statement that was used against USC by the COI. My guess is that they come up on the better end than the Trojans.
Comparing UNC to Miami is not worthwhile. Totally different cases and the NCAA doesn't want to open up the sham of the salaries they are paying their employees, the athletes. Totally agree.
Will be interesting to see what the NCAA suggests as punishment, Miami sit out a 3rd bowl year? Miami self imposed 2, seems like losing a few ships @ most & time served because if they sit 3, is the NCAA really saying Miami's almost as bad a Penn State?
How does the NCAA decide punishments, spin a big wheel like on the Price is Right? All the **** that Miami was doing...after being punished before? Don't you think this is cause for the death penalty? Loss of 15 scholarships a year, 2/3 year post season ban, and loss of revenue. They had people pay for abortions, took recruits on boats that had prostitutes, paid players. I mean, they did it all.
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Only problem with your statement is the NCAA couldn't corroborate any of it. Even after two and a half years of digging, there was nothing they could find about all the more sensational accusations. You may choose to believe the incredibly sensationalized yahoo story, but there's no evidence any of it ever happened. Shapiro supposedly handed over boxes of "evidence" but the NCAA still couldn't corroborate any of it? That's exactly what I heard, a few weeks ago Marc from 620 out of Charlotte said the players @ Miami were not helping the NCAA's case. So the NCAA really bases their entire case on some proven crook? I can't believe the NCAA wanted to test another school this quickly - especially after they just admitted they screwed up in this Miami case less than a week ago. This is key in my opinion. If the players don't help with the investigation, the NCAA should assume they are guilty.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:20 AM
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PoleD wrote: I'm sure Shalala will appreciate Swoff going to the NCAA offices with her. Shalala is used to working under people who obfuscate the truth and abuse their power. Heck, Swoffy is probably getting worked over by an intern under the desk right about now.
"The more we learn, the more it seems UNC has made a mockery of its ballyhooed academic mission for a long time in order to gain competitive advantage in football and men's basketball." - Pat Forde 8/17/12
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:21 AM
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StateFan03 wrote:
This is key in my opinion. If the players don't help with the investigation, the NCAA should assume they are guilty. the same goes for people working in the admin of a school that won't talk, WTF is that about?
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:25 AM
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BlackRazor wrote:
wrcwolf wrote: Shalala response indicates that Miami will battle this extremely hard. A stronger statement than what USC gave when they were delivered their NOA. A statement that was used against USC by the COI. My guess is that they come up on the better end than the Trojans.
Comparing UNC to Miami is not worthwhile. Totally different cases and the NCAA doesn't want to open up the sham of the salaries they are paying their employees, the athletes. Totally agree.
Will be interesting to see what the NCAA suggests as punishment, Miami sit out a 3rd bowl year? Miami self imposed 2, seems like losing a few ships @ most & time served because if they sit 3, is the NCAA really saying Miami's almost as bad a Penn State?
How does the NCAA decide punishments, spin a big wheel like on the Price is Right? All the **** that Miami was doing...after being punished before? Don't you think this is cause for the death penalty? Loss of 15 scholarships a year, 2/3 year post season ban, and loss of revenue. They had people pay for abortions, took recruits on boats that had prostitutes, paid players. I mean, they did it all.
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Only problem with your statement is the NCAA couldn't corroborate any of it. Even after two and a half years of digging, there was nothing they could find about all the more sensational accusations. You may choose to believe the incredibly sensationalized yahoo story, but there's no evidence any of it ever happened. Shapiro supposedly handed over boxes of "evidence" but the NCAA still couldn't corroborate any of it? Nice to have you post here CaneZach. Bring some more hurricanes with you in the future. Y'all do need to call out the ACC office and the NCAA over this. Tom Ross is just like Pinocchio.
1.He is a puppet.
2.He tells lies.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:29 AM
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How will this affect recruiting?
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:29 AM
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Miami should sue the NCAA for showing favoritism towards UNC.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:32 AM
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No argument that the NCAA is a joke... but also no argument that Miami should and will receive further sanctions due to gaining a competitive advantage (recruiting) from these actions.
I'm not one - as of this point - to condone looking the other way, etc. because the NCAA screwed up too.
Not fair to those that aren't breaking the rules.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:36 AM
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Maybe Ms Shalala can get Bill Clinton to send Erskine Bowles and Swofford to help Miami.......oops my bad.....
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:39 AM
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Even throwing the Shapiro part out the window, there were enough violations found across multiple sports based on factual information, including multiple coaches to warrant the LOIC, especially for a program with the violations history of Miami.
Most of this information was uncovered by the U itself, turned over to the NCAA and is the reason they self-imposed penalties. If any of what Shapiro said was fact, the failure to monitor charge in regards to him is warranted, which is similar to what UNC got with ex-players and agents.
Until the school releases the NOA letter which they don't have to, you have to assume the AD is putting on a show to take everyone's eyes on the factual parts of the report.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:40 AM
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PicklePacker wrote: Miami should sue the NCAA for showing favoritism towards UNC. Any school that is a member of the NCAA has to bear the handicap of favoritism toward UNC. Any school that is a member of the ACC has to bear the additional handicap of more favoritism toward UNC. This is the prevailing condition, and no one has been able to do anything about it. The best we can hope for is public disclosure of the condition. Better merit has to be used to overcome the handicaps. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:41 AM
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There is a big opportunity to hammer home the hypocrisy of the NCAA on this one. Comments are easily posted on the WRAL Sports page: http://www.wralsportsfan.com/c...trol-/12128623/Otter74 wrote: Miami should have been hit with LOIC. UNC should have as well. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:50 AM
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duckmanjw wrote: Even throwing the Shapiro part out the window, there were enough violations found across multiple sports based on factual information, including multiple coaches to warrant the LOIC, especially for a program with the violations history of Miami.
Most of this information was uncovered by the U itself, turned over to the NCAA and is the reason they self-imposed penalties. If any of what Shapiro said was fact, the failure to monitor charge in regards to him is warranted, which is similar to what UNC got with ex-players and agents.
Until the school releases the NOA letter which they don't have to, you have to assume the AD is putting on a show to take everyone's eyes on the factual parts of the report. I thought the NCAA publishes their findings a few days after informing the schools anyway. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:52 AM
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Godallmighty NCAA. They hammer Miami and doing it using questionable methods and motives and volunteer info from Miami. But Carolina pretty much skates?
The saying, "What's good for GM is good for America" has been bastardized by the NCAA.
"What's good for UNC-Ch is good for the NCAA."
What miserable fat-heads they are.
If they ever come knocking at our door I hope we fight them tooth and nail. Never volunteer anything and never give up.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:54 AM
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----------------------------------------- --- StateFan03 wrote: BlackRazor wrote:
CaneZach wrote: -------------------------------------
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BlackRazor wrote:
wrcwolf wrote: Shalala response indicates that Miami will battle this extremely hard. A stronger statement than what USC gave when they were delivered their NOA. A statement that was used against USC by the COI. My guess is that they come up on the better end than the Trojans.
Comparing UNC to Miami is not worthwhile. Totally different cases and the NCAA doesn't want to open up the sham of the salaries they are paying their employees, the athletes. Totally agree.
Will be interesting to see what the NCAA suggests as punishment, Miami sit out a 3rd bowl year? Miami self imposed 2, seems like losing a few ships @ most & time served because if they sit 3, is the NCAA really saying Miami's almost as bad a Penn State?
How does the NCAA decide punishments, spin a big wheel like on the Price is Right? All the **** that Miami was doing...after being punished before? Don't you think this is cause for the death penalty? Loss of 15 scholarships a year, 2/3 year post season ban, and loss of revenue. They had people pay for abortions, took recruits on boats that had prostitutes, paid players. I mean, they did it all.
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Only problem with your statement is the NCAA couldn't corroborate any of it. Even after two and a half years of digging, there was nothing they could find about all the more sensational accusations. You may choose to believe the incredibly sensationalized yahoo story, but there's no evidence any of it ever happened. Shapiro supposedly handed over boxes of "evidence" but the NCAA still couldn't corroborate any of it? That's exactly what I heard, a few weeks ago Marc from 620 out of Charlotte said the players @ Miami were not helping the NCAA's case. So the NCAA really bases their entire case on some proven crook? I can't believe the NCAA wanted to test another school this quickly - especially after they just admitted they screwed up in this Miami case less than a week ago. This is key in my opinion. If the players don't help with the investigation, the NCAA should assume they are guilty. --------------------------------------------- Emmett himself said Miami gave an unprecedented level of cooperation and yet the NCAA still couldn't find any evidence to support Shapiro's claims. Hell, Shapiro claimed he gave $10k to land a basketball player. That was the only player he claimed to buy. Shapiro himself said he couldn't and wouldn't do that for football recruits because he could never outbid the SEC. Said player was suspended, then reinstated with the NCAA's blessing? Unless I'm missing something, despite all the evidence Shapiro gave them and the unparalleled level of cooperation from Miami, the NCAA finds no evidence to support his claims and clears the player. Frank Haith's own NOA doesn't charge him with any unethical conduct. I'm not saying we are completely innocent. We had players receive impermissible benefits. They were suspended and repaid those benefits. But I don't buy the "all the hookers, blow, and abortions you want" talk. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:54 AM
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I'd love to hear the NCAA explain why what Miami did is so much worse than UNC. Both are wrong but it's safe to assume all schools want punishment to be equal for breaking the rules. They might be apples & oranges cases of guilt but Miami's LOIC & UNC's isn't?
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:57 AM
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This is utter madness.  -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:57 AM
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BostonWolf wrote: The NCAA was so mad at Carolina they put Miami on probation.
In making humor you told the truth.
Miami was bad because of one booster and some players.
The CHeats were bad because of Tutors, Coaches, Players, Administrators, fundraisors, Department Heads, Deans, Academic Advisors, Agents, Drug dealers, Mothers, student honor courts, and a Chancellor. Did I forget anyone?
Ms. Shalala should sue and toast the NCAA with her pull in the Fed Government, especially after the NCAA's own illegal investigating activity. As I read the description of what the NCAA did, it was NOT illegal. It was not in accordance with NCAA rules and internal procedures, but that's entirely different. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:58 AM
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there are receipts and other proof posted on the Yahoo Miami scandal page: http://sports.yahoo.com/invest...benefits_081611CaneZach wrote: -----------------------------------------
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BlackRazor wrote:
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BlackRazor wrote:
wrcwolf wrote: Shalala response indicates that Miami will battle this extremely hard. A stronger statement than what USC gave when they were delivered their NOA. A statement that was used against USC by the COI. My guess is that they come up on the better end than the Trojans.
Comparing UNC to Miami is not worthwhile. Totally different cases and the NCAA doesn't want to open up the sham of the salaries they are paying their employees, the athletes. Totally agree.
Will be interesting to see what the NCAA suggests as punishment, Miami sit out a 3rd bowl year? Miami self imposed 2, seems like losing a few ships @ most & time served because if they sit 3, is the NCAA really saying Miami's almost as bad a Penn State?
How does the NCAA decide punishments, spin a big wheel like on the Price is Right? All the **** that Miami was doing...after being punished before? Don't you think this is cause for the death penalty? Loss of 15 scholarships a year, 2/3 year post season ban, and loss of revenue. They had people pay for abortions, took recruits on boats that had prostitutes, paid players. I mean, they did it all.
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Only problem with your statement is the NCAA couldn't corroborate any of it. Even after two and a half years of digging, there was nothing they could find about all the more sensational accusations. You may choose to believe the incredibly sensationalized yahoo story, but there's no evidence any of it ever happened. Shapiro supposedly handed over boxes of "evidence" but the NCAA still couldn't corroborate any of it? That's exactly what I heard, a few weeks ago Marc from 620 out of Charlotte said the players @ Miami were not helping the NCAA's case. So the NCAA really bases their entire case on some proven crook? I can't believe the NCAA wanted to test another school this quickly - especially after they just admitted they screwed up in this Miami case less than a week ago.
This is key in my opinion. If the players don't help with the investigation, the NCAA should assume they are guilty.
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Emmett himself said Miami gave an unprecedented level of cooperation and yet the NCAA still couldn't find any evidence to support Shapiro's claims. Hell, Shapiro claimed he gave $10k to land a basketball player. That was the only player he claimed to buy. Shapiro himself said he couldn't and wouldn't do that for football recruits because he could never outbid the SEC. Said player was suspended, then reinstated with the NCAA's blessing? Unless I'm missing something, despite all the evidence Shapiro gave them and the unparalleled level of cooperation from Miami, the NCAA finds no evidence to support his claims and clears the player. Frank Haith's own NOA doesn't charge him with any unethical conduct.
I'm not saying we are completely innocent. We had players receive impermissible benefits. They were suspended and repaid those benefits. But I don't buy the "all the hookers, blow, and abortions you want" talk. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:59 AM
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If they ever come knocking at our door we should flip the bird and laugh in their faces. 19pack76 wrote: Godallmighty NCAA. They hammer Miami and doing it using questionable methods and motives and volunteer info from Miami. But Carolina pretty much skates?
The saying, "What's good for GM is good for America" has been bastardized by the NCAA.
"What's good for UNC-Ch is good for the NCAA."
What miserable fat-heads they are.
If they ever come knocking at our door I hope we fight them tooth and nail. Never volunteer anything and never give up. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:01 AM
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NCAA misdeeds and blunders aside, Miami is probably getting what they deserve. I don't blame the Miami President for trying to get just the self-imposed sanctions applied and hoping the NCAA would call it a day. Just unrealistic that would happen but the head of the NCAA should resign as well. All their screw-ups were under his watch and if a head coach is responsible (except at Carolina) for all his assistants actions, then so should he for all his people. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:03 AM
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TimPack10 wrote: NCAA misdeeds and blunders aside, Miami is probably getting what they deserve. I don't blame the Miami President for trying to get just the self-imposed sanctions applied and hoping the NCAA would call it a day. Just unrealistic that would happen but the head of the NCAA should resign as well. All their screw-ups were under his watch and if a head coach is responsible (except at Carolina) for all his assistants actions, then so should he for all his people. Just my 2 cents worth. +1 If anyone deserves to be charged with LOIC, it's the NCAA!
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:34 AM
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55blue wrote:
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BlackRazor wrote:
wrcwolf wrote: Shalala response indicates that Miami will battle this extremely hard. A stronger statement than what USC gave when they were delivered their NOA. A statement that was used against USC by the COI. My guess is that they come up on the better end than the Trojans.
Comparing UNC to Miami is not worthwhile. Totally different cases and the NCAA doesn't want to open up the sham of the salaries they are paying their employees, the athletes. Totally agree.
Will be interesting to see what the NCAA suggests as punishment, Miami sit out a 3rd bowl year? Miami self imposed 2, seems like losing a few ships @ most & time served because if they sit 3, is the NCAA really saying Miami's almost as bad a Penn State?
How does the NCAA decide punishments, spin a big wheel like on the Price is Right? All the **** that Miami was doing...after being punished before? Don't you think this is cause for the death penalty? Loss of 15 scholarships a year, 2/3 year post season ban, and loss of revenue. They had people pay for abortions, took recruits on boats that had prostitutes, paid players. I mean, they did it all.
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Only problem with your statement is the NCAA couldn't corroborate any of it. Even after two and a half years of digging, there was nothing they could find about all the more sensational accusations. You may choose to believe the incredibly sensationalized yahoo story, but there's no evidence any of it ever happened. Shapiro supposedly handed over boxes of "evidence" but the NCAA still couldn't corroborate any of it?
Nice to have you post here CaneZach. Bring some more hurricanes with you in the future. Y'all do need to call out the ACC office and the NCAA over this. Thanks! I've always enjoyed coming to your board. You guys have, for the most part, a very intelligent and reasonable fanbase. I'd bring more Canes over here, but if you've ever been to our Scout board, you would know why I don't want to put you guys through that lol. Some of our fans can be so bad that we can't even stand them. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:39 AM
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MBPackBacker wrote:
BostonWolf wrote: The NCAA was so mad at Carolina they put Miami on probation.
In making humor you told the truth.
Miami was bad because of one booster and some players.
The CHeats were bad because of Tutors, Coaches, Players, Administrators, fundraisors, Department Heads, Deans, Academic Advisors, Agents, Drug dealers, Mothers, student honor courts, and a Chancellor. Did I forget anyone?
Ms. Shalala should sue and toast the NCAA with her pull in the Fed Government, especially after the NCAA's own illegal investigating activity. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:43 AM
Re: MIAMI hit with LOIC
jmbauman wrote:
MBPackBacker wrote:
BostonWolf wrote: The NCAA was so mad at Carolina they put Miami on probation.
In making humor you told the truth.
Miami was bad because of one booster and some players.
The CHeats were bad because of Tutors, Coaches, Players, Administrators, fundraisors, Department Heads, Deans, Academic Advisors, Agents, Drug dealers, Mothers, student honor courts, and a Chancellor. Did I forget anyone?
Ms. Shalala should sue and toast the NCAA with her pull in the Fed Government, especially after the NCAA's own illegal investigating activity. you pretty much covered it - not sure why they wouldn't have a case or shouldn't try? Like other posters asked, what have they really got to lose if the NCAA wants to slam them for LOIC?
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