And UNC skates.......

The NCAA was so mad at Carolina they put Miami on probation.

ACC sanctions to follow

“

Many of the charges brought forth are based on the word of a man who made a fortune by lying. The NCAA enforcement staff acknowledged to the University that if Nevin Shapiro, a convicted con man, said something more than once, it considered the allegation 'corroborated' -- an argument which is both ludicrous and counter to legal practice
” -- Miami president Donna Shalala

What a crock of ****.

---------------------------------------------
--- packisbacknow wrote:

“

Many of the charges brought forth are based on the word of a man who made a fortune by lying. The NCAA enforcement staff acknowledged to the University that if Nevin Shapiro, a convicted con man, said something more than once, it considered the allegation 'corroborated' -- an argument which is both ludicrous and counter to legal practice
” -- Miami president Donna Shalala

---------------------------------------------

I hope they go down swinging

Did Shalala tick off the ncaa? I hope miami fights this legally.

funny how the NCAA goes overboard on it's investigations of GT and UM which happen to be in U*NC's division while allowing U*NC to skate over serious violations of the very basis of college athletics. If Miami has any balls at all this will bring down the NCAA.

BostonWolf wrote: The NCAA was so mad at Carolina they put Miami on probation.

In making humor you told the truth.

Miami was bad because of one booster and some players.

The CHeats were bad because of Tutors, Coaches, Players, Administrators, fundraisors, Department Heads, Deans, Academic Advisors, Agents, Drug dealers, Mothers, student honor courts, and a Chancellor. Did I forget anyone?

Ms. Shalala should sue and toast the NCAA with her pull in the Fed Government, especially after the NCAA's own illegal investigating activity.

They should have just set up some fake AFAM classes down there.

Take THAT, Heels!

UM will raise so much hell about unc.

Send emails to the miam crowd about all the unc stuff the NCAA let slide.

Shalala response indicates that Miami will battle this extremely hard. A stronger statement than what USC gave when they were delivered their NOA. A statement that was used against USC by the COI. My guess is that they come up on the better end than the Trojans.

Comparing UNC to Miami is not worthwhile. Totally different cases and the NCAA doesn't want to open up the sham of the salaries they are paying their employees, the athletes.

the NCAA is a fuggin joke and a unfunny one at that.

Yes, the NCAA is a joke and chooses to selectively enforce the rules. Change definitely needs to occur. However, Miami is one of the last programs which should whine and complain about getting caught.

  That program was a cesspool and it is hard to believe that neither the football or basketball coaches had any idea of what was going on between their players and Shapiro.

  There is no doubt that UNC has been getting away with murder, and it is a shame, but it does not make me feel bad that Miami was caught. The ACC school with the far larger complaint regarding NCAA penalties levied would be Ga Tech IMHO.

michael924 wrote: Send emails to the miam crowd about all the unc stuff the NCAA let slide.

I saw nothing on their scout board about UNC-Cheats.

I have no doubt that Swoffy went to bat for the U.

In other news, Obama is hosting a fundraiser for the NRA.

No doubt about it.

CardiacPackAttack wrote: I have no doubt that Swoffy went to bat for the U.

In other news, Obama is hosting a fundraiser for the NRA.

---------------------------------------------
--- MBPackBacker wrote:

BostonWolf wrote: The NCAA was so mad at Carolina they put Miami on probation.

In making humor you told the truth.

Miami was bad because of one booster and some players.

The CHeats were bad because of Tutors, Coaches, Players, Administrators, fundraisors, Department Heads, Deans, Academic Advisors, Agents, Drug dealers, Mothers, student honor courts, and a Chancellor. Did I forget anyone?

Ms. Shalala should sue and toast the NCAA with her pull in the Fed Government, especially after the NCAA's own illegal investigating activity.

---------------------------------------------

Yes you did forget the conference current acting commissioner

Miami will now be pointing fingers at UNC and putting pressure on the NCAA to act.

ESPN link
m.espn.go.com/extra/ncaa/story?storyId=8964435

After reading that espn article it sure appears that if Miami is going down their going down swinging.

When can we expect the NCAA to be hit with LOIC? They deserve it more than anybody.

They should have been doing it the Carolina way.

---------------------------------------------
--- Montreatwuf wrote:

Miami will now be pointing fingers at UNC and putting pressure on the NCAA to act.

---------------------------------------------

Even if they do, it won't matter. The evil UNC empire has enacted some sort of Jedi mind trick to remove any discussion of their transgressions from the national media. Our only hope for justice is the N&O, ironically.

If Miami doesn't file suit against the NCAA for fraudulent business practices, RICO, racketeering, etc., it will never happen.  Name UNC-CH as a co-defendant.

I would bet money the rebuttal by Miami to the NCAA will include a reference to UNC, as did the Penn State lawsuit.

I think Universities are "on" to the UNC preferential treatment by the NCAA, and they are going to call the NCAA on it.

There is just too much money at stake not to do it.

What do they have to lose?

The ncaa* has got to be the most useless (and corrupt) organization in the country... make that... the world. They cannot even govern themselves and their rulings are ridiculously inconsistent.

We all (I will be) need to be calling people we know in the Miami crowd and informing them. I will call the AD`s office. And for those that want to ***** about picking up a phone: if YOU arent going to do anything, ****.

ETA: Peeps, there are 2 different articles on college football talk. Please add comments and likes.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/1 9/miamis-response-to-noa-many-allegations-remain-u nsubstantiated/

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/1 9/ap-miami-receives-notice-of-allegations-from-nca a/

wrcwolf wrote: Shalala response indicates that Miami will battle this extremely hard. A stronger statement than what USC gave when they were delivered their NOA. A statement that was used against USC by the COI. My guess is that they come up on the better end than the Trojans.

Comparing UNC to Miami is not worthwhile. Totally different cases and the NCAA doesn't want to open up the sham of the salaries they are paying their employees, the athletes.

Totally agree.

Will be interesting to see what the NCAA suggests as punishment, Miami sit out a 3rd bowl year? Miami self imposed 2, seems like losing a few ships @ most & time served because if they sit 3, is the NCAA really saying Miami's almost as bad a Penn State?

How does the NCAA decide punishments, spin a big wheel like on the Price is Right?

Does anyone here doubt LOIC for Miami? Plus, I doubt they have these fine organizations in their pocket:
-Governor's office
-State senators
-FL SBI
-FL Attorney General's office
-State Legislature
- A BOT that has attorneys at every important media outlet in FL
-Their conference commissioner is not an alum knee deep in it
-No BOG to protect them because they are private....

Anything else?

Expect a statement from Swoffy shortly.

Swofford will do the right thing and point out the hypocrisy in the handling of these two cases.

LiveWolvesinUnitards wrote: Swofford will do the right thing and point out the hypocrisy in the handling of these two cases.

lol

BlackRazor wrote:

wrcwolf wrote: Shalala response indicates that Miami will battle this extremely hard. A stronger statement than what USC gave when they were delivered their NOA. A statement that was used against USC by the COI. My guess is that they come up on the better end than the Trojans.

Comparing UNC to Miami is not worthwhile. Totally different cases and the NCAA doesn't want to open up the sham of the salaries they are paying their employees, the athletes.

Totally agree.

Will be interesting to see what the NCAA suggests as punishment, Miami sit out a 3rd bowl year? Miami self imposed 2, seems like losing a few ships @ most & time served because if they sit 3, is the NCAA really saying Miami's almost as bad a Penn State?

How does the NCAA decide punishments, spin a big wheel like on the Price is Right?

All the **** that Miami was doing...after being punished before? Don't you think this is cause for the death penalty? Loss of 15 scholarships a year, 2/3 year post season ban, and loss of revenue.  They had people pay for abortions, took recruits on boats that had prostitutes, paid players. I mean, they did it all.

michael924 wrote: Send emails to the miam crowd about all the unc stuff the NCAA let slide.

Do this....Miami needs to see that the NCAA is picking and choosing who to punish.

packisbacknow wrote: ACC sanctions to follow

Swofford is going to bring the hammer...especially in basketball because Miami isn't supposed to finish ahead of UNC like this.  Plus they embarassed the Heels last time they played...that cannot go unpunished.

ncsumeb728 wrote: Does anyone here doubt LOIC for Miami? Plus, I doubt they have these fine organizations in their pocket:
-Governor's office
-State senators
-FL SBI
-FL Attorney General's office
-State Legislature
- A BOT that has attorneys at every important media outlet in FL
-Their conference commissioner is not an alum knee deep in it
-No BOG to protect them because they are private....

Anything else?

Courts/Judges

State of Pennsylvania is suing, not Penn State.

NCAA is a joke.  Oversteps with Penn State, slams Miami, gives GT too much, basically tells unc sorry for bothering you.

trentjone wrote: I would bet money the rebuttal by Miami to the NCAA will include a reference to UNC, as did the Penn State lawsuit.

I think Universities are "on" to the UNC preferential treatment by the NCAA, and they are going to call the NCAA on it.

There is just too much money at stake not to do it.

What do they have to lose?