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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:52 AM

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Ok, guys, between this idiotic post and "tabramos"'s weak attempt to denigrate NCSU on the BY, can anyone here provide me with a good reason not to kick this obvious troll to the curb?

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When did NC State become co-flagship?  In any event, most people would not know that because UNC bears the name of the university system while NC State refused to do so. So, it is State's own fault if people think of it in the same way as Oregon State, Miss State, Fla. State, etc. If State is a co-flagship,then it ought to bear the name UNC-Raleigh or the one that I think would have made it sound better and more prestigious...the University of North Carolina Institute of Technology....clearly...past leaders and alumni of State have screwed up when it comes to branding...
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tabramos wrote: Why? They are the flagship campus of the system that bears its name.

uhm....CO-flagship


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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:53 AM

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Planet Boulder wrote: Ok, guys, between this idiotic post and "tabramos"'s weak attempt to denigrate NCSU on the BY, can anyone here provide me with a good reason not to kick this obvious troll to the curb?

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When did NC State become co-flagship?  In any event, most people would not know that because UNC bears the name of the university system while NC State refused to do so. So, it is State's own fault if people think of it in the same way as Oregon State, Miss State, Fla. State, etc. If State is a co-flagship,then it ought to bear the name UNC-Raleigh or the one that I think would have made it sound better and more prestigious...the University of North Carolina Institute of Technology....clearly...past leaders and alumni of State have screwed up when it comes to branding...
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tabramos wrote: Why? They are the flagship campus of the system that bears its name.

uhm....CO-flagship


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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:54 AM

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A Hoo coworker mentioned there's an unscheduled meeting of UVA's board and the B1G board coming up very soon, suggesting that UVA would bolt. I checked HooNation boards and it seems this rumor pops up every few weeks and some suspect WVU bloggers are stirring the pot.

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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:55 AM

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boonewolf1 wrote: They aren't going anywhere, they have the conference leadership by the sack and are not letting go. They can do whatever they want to and do. They would probably have to go legit somewhere else. Nah happening.
yeah of any ACC school, it does seem UNC has the most to lose if the ACC were to go under. You know Swoff will do all he can to keep his job/power.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:58 AM

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tabramos wrote: Why? They are the flagship campus of the system that bears its name. If anybody should be allowed to leave, it should be NC State so that it is allowed to grow into a comprehensive university (i.e. able to offer a law school, medical school, dental school, health sciences, pharmacy, journalism, etc)

The state of NC is growing and NC State needs to be allowed to grow. There are many health professionals practicing in NC whose health education took place in another state or another country. It makes no sense why the state of NC continues to handcuff NCSU. Texas A&M is not part of the University of Texas and this allowed A&M to stand on its own as a well regarded world class university.
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What we really need is for dUNCe to have an offer to leave the UNC System... That would be great for the whole state.

either way.... works IMO...
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Posted: 2/20/2013 10:58 AM

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tabramos wrote: When did NC State become co-flagship?  In any event, most people would not know that because UNC bears the name of the university system while NC State refused to do so. So, it is State's own fault if people think of it in the same way as Oregon State, Miss State, Fla. State, etc. If State is a co-flagship,then it ought to bear the name UNC-Raleigh or the one that I think would have made it sound better and more prestigious...the University of North Carolina Institute of Technology....clearly...past leaders and alumni of State have screwed up when it comes to branding...
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tabramos wrote: Why? They are the flagship campus of the system that bears its name.

uhm....CO-flagship
Seriously...that is a Clown Question Bro...show me the rule where it states we should be called UNC-R if we are a co-flagship university?  Not only that...NCSU has held that designation for several years now...do the research before you spout off and sound like a heel.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:00 AM

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Im sure going to miss all of their championship seasons and 7-5 records in football if they leave
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:01 AM

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Planet Boulder wrote: Ok, guys, between this idiotic post and "tabramos"'s weak attempt to denigrate NCSU on the BY, can anyone here provide me with a good reason not to kick this obvious troll to the curb?

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When did NC State become co-flagship?  In any event, most people would not know that because UNC bears the name of the university system while NC State refused to do so. So, it is State's own fault if people think of it in the same way as Oregon State, Miss State, Fla. State, etc. If State is a co-flagship,then it ought to bear the name UNC-Raleigh or the one that I think would have made it sound better and more prestigious...the University of North Carolina Institute of Technology....clearly...past leaders and alumni of State have screwed up when it comes to branding...
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tabramos wrote: Why? They are the flagship campus of the system that bears its name.

uhm....CO-flagship


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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:06 AM

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Clarity of thought before rashness of action.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:07 AM

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Florida State is also a co-flagship. I'm sure others are like this.

Give tabramos the boot. I'm sure he can find friends on IC to console him.

 


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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:10 AM

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From the Flagship's own newspaper.

But task force members say the existence of applied sciences and engineering programs at the 
UNC system’s other flagship institution — N.C. State University — just 25 miles down the road suggests the University’s efforts might be perceived as unnecessary by the system’s Board of Governors.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:13 AM

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PackLawyer04 wrote: From the Flagship's own newspaper.

But task force members say the existence of applied sciences and engineering programs at the 
UNC system’s other flagship institution — N.C. State University — just 25 miles down the road suggests the University’s efforts might be perceived as unnecessary by the system’s Board of Governors.
That should answer that.

As for tabramos, his sorry *** is gone.



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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:32 AM

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NCSU Chancellor Randy Woodson said he’s not concerned about the potential for duplicate programs after talks with Bruce Carney, UNC-CH executive vice chancellor and provost. N.C. State’s program has more applications for the environmental and agricultural sciences, he said.

“Given their strength in medical science and pharmacy, I think it makes perfect sense,” he said. “We do health-related things, but not the way Carolina does.”

(We also require athletes to attend and complete existing courses taught by flesh-and-blood professors). 

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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:38 AM

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I just read a book that took place in occupied Istanbul at the close of WWI, and I can't shake the image of Slive, Delaney, and Bowlsby sitting around negotiating how they're going to partition the ACC.

It would be risky, but UNC-CH to the Big 10 is probably good for us because it opens the door to the SEC.

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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:42 AM

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I'm impressed! This thread made it 4 pages before MegaPack and others chimed in with their WVU comments. FWIW the Ohio State Hineygate board has a 50+ page thread talking about expansion and UNC/UVA going to the BIG and other candidates for 17-20. Don't worry though, you guys can continue to think that its only the crazy WVU folks stirring the pot.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 11:55 AM

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He is either an ignorant idiot or a ignorant troll or both.  He isn't adding anything constructive and most people likely just ignore him out of hand.  So, no reason to let him keep posting.
Planet Boulder wrote: Ok, guys, between this idiotic post and "tabramos"'s weak attempt to denigrate NCSU on the BY, can anyone here provide me with a good reason not to kick this obvious troll to the curb?

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When did NC State become co-flagship?  In any event, most people would not know that because UNC bears the name of the university system while NC State refused to do so. So, it is State's own fault if people think of it in the same way as Oregon State, Miss State, Fla. State, etc. If State is a co-flagship,then it ought to bear the name UNC-Raleigh or the one that I think would have made it sound better and more prestigious...the University of North Carolina Institute of Technology....clearly...past leaders and alumni of State have screwed up when it comes to branding...
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tabramos wrote: Why? They are the flagship campus of the system that bears its name.

uhm....CO-flagship


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Posted: 2/20/2013 12:00 PM

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wvukicker wrote: I'm impressed! This thread made it 4 pages before MegaPack and others chimed in with their WVU comments. FWIW the Ohio State Hineygate board has a 50+ page thread talking about expansion and UNC/UVA going to the BIG and other candidates for 17-20. Don't worry though, you guys can continue to think that its only the crazy WVU folks stirring the pot.
Just because other boards are talking about it does not mean that the crazy WVU folks are not stirring the pot.   One could argue that the other boards are talking about this BECAUSE the crazy WVU folks were stirring the pot.  FYI, you are ignoring the evidence of WVU fans creating many of these rumors over time that prompts accusations of further rumor mongering.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 12:09 PM

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wolfchicEE wrote: Hey, UNC-CHeat, don't let teh door hit your A#$ on the way out.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 12:14 PM

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Planet Boulder wrote: Ok, guys, between this idiotic post and "tabramos"'s weak attempt to denigrate NCSU on the BY, can anyone here provide me with a good reason not to kick this obvious troll to the curb?

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When did NC State become co-flagship?  In any event, most people would not know that because UNC bears the name of the university system while NC State refused to do so. So, it is State's own fault if people think of it in the same way as Oregon State, Miss State, Fla. State, etc. If State is a co-flagship,then it ought to bear the name UNC-Raleigh or the one that I think would have made it sound better and more prestigious...the University of North Carolina Institute of Technology....clearly...past leaders and alumni of State have screwed up when it comes to branding...
wolfchicEE wrote:
tabramos wrote: Why? They are the flagship campus of the system that bears its name.

uhm....CO-flagship


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Posted: 2/20/2013 12:16 PM

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wvukicker wrote: I'm impressed! This thread made it 4 pages before MegaPack and others chimed in with their WVU comments. FWIW the Ohio State Hineygate board has a 50+ page thread talking about expansion and UNC/UVA going to the BIG and other candidates for 17-20. Don't worry though, you guys can continue to think that its only the crazy WVU folks stirring the pot.
Yeah, more non-factual information from a WV guy.  A 50 page thread on a message board does not mean anything.  Can you point to one credible source that gives any validity to the 'UNC to the B1G' rumor  at all?  HINT:  The "Dude" and Greg Swaim do not qualify.

By the way, can you give an ETA on when WVU fans will stop being pissy because the ACC and SEC didn't invite them?

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Posted: 2/20/2013 12:34 PM

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I hope it is true. As to playing them, eh, let's play them as often as we play the other in-state schools not in the ACC, IOW next to never. We wouldn't want to show favoritism after all.

MD is on the hook for $50M, now unc-CHeat and UVA pay $50M each, that's some decent change for the remaining schools to split. And since Pitt, Syr and ND aren't full members yet they don't get a share or at least not a full share.

Say hello to our practice field. I see that as a win-win.

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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:02 PM

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Look, I'll be the first to admit that The Dude and MHver3 have throw out a lot of things that have never come to fruition and probably never will. I along with many other WVU fans, have stopped taking what they say seriously. I'm just pointing out that its not just WVU fans talking about this-that's all.

What is "non factual" about my last comment? The OSU board does have a 50+ page thread about expansion in which they discuss UVA and UNC being 15/16 and they also talk about other candidates for 17-20.

I don't have a credible source that points to the rumors-probably wont have one until it breaks(if it ever does happen). You win...?  

On your ETA-WVU and the state of WV will always have an us against the world mentality. It stems from a lot of things, so to answer your question, it probably will be a long time before we let it go.
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wvukicker wrote: I'm impressed! This thread made it 4 pages before MegaPack and others chimed in with their WVU comments. FWIW the Ohio State Hineygate board has a 50+ page thread talking about expansion and UNC/UVA going to the BIG and other candidates for 17-20. Don't worry though, you guys can continue to think that its only the crazy WVU folks stirring the pot.
Yeah, more non-factual information from a WV guy.  A 50 page thread on a message board does not mean anything.  Can you point to one credible source that gives any validity to the 'UNC to the B1G' rumor  at all?  HINT:  The "Dude" and Greg Swaim do not qualify.

By the way, can you give an ETA on when WVU fans will stop being pissy because the ACC and SEC didn't invite them?
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:05 PM

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matt1990 wrote: Wow. Even IC thinks this is ********... and here we are on page 4.
Well, they are always wrong.  So maybe this thing has legs.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:06 PM

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You have a good point. However, the OSU board have a lot of posters that say they have sources inside BIG offices and speak just as definitively as MHver3 and The Dude do about future expansion. They do laugh at most of what The Dude and MHver3 say. Again, point taken with the drivers behind other boards talking about realignment could be done because of those crazy WVU folks.
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wvukicker wrote: I'm impressed! This thread made it 4 pages before MegaPack and others chimed in with their WVU comments. FWIW the Ohio State Hineygate board has a 50+ page thread talking about expansion and UNC/UVA going to the BIG and other candidates for 17-20. Don't worry though, you guys can continue to think that its only the crazy WVU folks stirring the pot.
Just because other boards are talking about it does not mean that the crazy WVU folks are not stirring the pot.   One could argue that the other boards are talking about this BECAUSE the crazy WVU folks were stirring the pot.  FYI, you are ignoring the evidence of WVU fans creating many of these rumors over time that prompts accusations of further rumor mongering.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:10 PM

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Planet Boulder wrote: Ok, guys, between this idiotic post and "tabramos"'s weak attempt to denigrate NCSU on the BY, can anyone here provide me with a good reason not to kick this obvious troll to the curb?

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When did NC State become co-flagship?  In any event, most people would not know that because UNC bears the name of the university system while NC State refused to do so. So, it is State's own fault if people think of it in the same way as Oregon State, Miss State, Fla. State, etc. If State is a co-flagship,then it ought to bear the name UNC-Raleigh or the one that I think would have made it sound better and more prestigious...the University of North Carolina Institute of Technology....clearly...past leaders and alumni of State have screwed up when it comes to branding...
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tabramos wrote: Why? They are the flagship campus of the system that bears its name.

uhm....CO-flagship


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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:12 PM

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boonewolf1 wrote: They aren't going anywhere, they have the conference leadership by the sack and are not letting go. They can do whatever they want to and do. They would probably have to go legit somewhere else. Nah happening.

You may want to check out where the B1G commissioner went to school.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:12 PM

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The point about the message boards is that a lot (most?) of what gets posted is garbage. Lots of agendas and false rumors. This board is no exception. So when you try to make a case that this rumor has legs based on a thread on an OSU board you are going to get some blow back. This is especially true after all the 'FSU to the Big 12' nonsense spread by WVU backers last summer.

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Planet Boulder wrote: Would not surprise me in the least and i hope they go.

Only read the first two posts.  I agree wholeheartedly with PB in hoping they go!  I would even kick in a donation toward their exit fee.

However unlike PB, due to me wanting them to leave so much, I would be completely surprised if it happened.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:15 PM

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boonewolf1 wrote: They aren't going anywhere, they have the conference leadership by the sack and are not letting go. They can do whatever they want to and do. They would probably have to go legit somewhere else. Nah happening.

You may want to check out where the B1G commissioner went to school.
he won't be there forever & even if they do go there, they won't run things there like they have here.

In BB they may do OK but FB - they're destined to be lower tier.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:16 PM

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YouPeople wrote:
EastChapelHill04Class wrote:
roperatchet1 wrote: Why are we discussing this every few weeks? No one is going anywhere.
Just like Maryland wasn't going anywhere?
You think Murlin would have been the B1G's first choice among those in the ACC?  LOL
 I don't remember all the discussions, but were you just as emphatic about the "Murlin" rumors before they eventually turned out to be true? 
  I think they probably do have an invite, but agree that their taking it is another matter.  My UVA friend said they would probably go if UNC went.  Wonder if the big BIG is playing different schools against each other to see if they can panic the holes into jumping.  They are definitely the big prize.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:22 PM

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I cannot speak as to how things stack up today, but I can tell you that 25+ years ago, there were numerous individuals that I graduated from high school with could not get into the engineering programs at NCSU.  Those who were rejected, typically wound up at unc-ch, east carolina or western carolina.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:10 PM

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Unfortunately that was not correct and has never been correct... except for the East Carolina, Western Carolina part.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:21 PM

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I would rather be "effing" west raleigh community college than any "effing" thing with unc on it!
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:25 PM

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PackChe88 wrote: I cannot speak as to how things stack up today, but I can tell you that 25+ years ago, there were numerous individuals that I graduated from high school with could not get into the engineering programs at NCSU.  Those who were rejected, typically wound up at unc-ch, east carolina or western carolina.
Ouch.  That rejection letter must have stung.

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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:28 PM

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67Wolfpack75 wrote: I would rather be "effing" west raleigh community college than any "effing" thing with unc on it!
Amen. My diploma says North Carolina State University at Raleigh so as not to be confused with anything in Chapel Hill.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:28 PM

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tabramos wrote: 
wolfchicEE wrote:
tabramos wrote: Why? They are the flagship campus of the system that bears its name.

uhm....CO-flagship
When did NC State become co-flagship?


Per information on the UNC System website both schools used to be referred to as flagships.

But now you won't find any school referred to as a "flagship" (which is just as well given that it's pretty pointless as terminology) and a UNC System spokeswoman last year stated the System no longer designates any school a "flagship".

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TheStorm2 wrote: Unfortunately that was not correct and has never been correct... except for the East Carolina, Western Carolina part.

Let me just add, you don't have yo math skilz up to standard, you ain't getting in the co-flagship to study a moneyed discipline. Lots of stinging going on 'round here today.

And oh, Tab, bu-bye--say hello to the guys for me.


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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:31 PM

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I havent paid that close attention, but doesnt ESPN stand to lose a lot if the ACC weakens?  I assume based on the renegotiation when we added teams when ESPN had most of the leverage, that in a downward trend, the conference has the leverage. ie, either negotiate for something better or stand pat.

Obviously if it falls apart, they would have to have an exit clause. But, when would it kick in?
I am just wondering if ESPN would be willing to offer more money to acc to keep their investment more stable.
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wvukicker wrote: You have a good point. However, the OSU board have a lot of posters that say they have sources inside BIG offices and speak just as definitively as MHver3 and The Dude do about future expansion. They do laugh at most of what The Dude and MHver3 say. Again, point taken with the drivers behind other boards talking about realignment could be done because of those crazy WVU folks.
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wvukicker wrote: I'm impressed! This thread made it 4 pages before MegaPack and others chimed in with their WVU comments. FWIW the Ohio State Hineygate board has a 50+ page thread talking about expansion and UNC/UVA going to the BIG and other candidates for 17-20. Don't worry though, you guys can continue to think that its only the crazy WVU folks stirring the pot.
Just because other boards are talking about it does not mean that the crazy WVU folks are not stirring the pot.   One could argue that the other boards are talking about this BECAUSE the crazy WVU folks were stirring the pot.  FYI, you are ignoring the evidence of WVU fans creating many of these rumors over time that prompts accusations of further rumor mongering.
mea cupla accepted.    We like fans of other schools coming here and giving well reasoned arguments.  You may have to grow a thick skin because of some of the posters here, but we are pretty tolerant overall.   Now, if this were the IC boards, they would have permabanned you already.  I will grant you that we have no idea where some of these rumors may be started, but we do tend to point to certain wvu fans since they have started rumors similar  to this over and over in the past year or two.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:34 PM

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It is getting harder to tell academically UNC at Chapel Hill from UNC at Pembroke.



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