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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:15 PM

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backthepack93 wrote: Here's some Amerson quotes from talking to the press at the combine:

"I'm disappointed with how I approached this season. I didn't have the right mentality."

"I sat on routes and was guessing. It resulted in the touchdowns I gave up."
Don't worry Amerson, you're forever be a Wolfpack legend to legions of Pack Pride posters.  Your lackluster play indirectly contributed to the firing of your head coach.

"If you want the truth, ask me".

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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:20 PM

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Bryanth1a wrote:
backthepack93 wrote: Here's some Amerson quotes from talking to the press at the combine:

"I'm disappointed with how I approached this season. I didn't have the right mentality."

"I sat on routes and was guessing. It resulted in the touchdowns I gave up."
Don't worry Amerson, you're forever be a Wolfpack legend to legions of Pack Pride posters.  Your lackluster play indirectly contributed to the firing of your head coach.
Dude was completely out of shape this year.  In a very short time he put on almost 20 pounds of muscle and the folks getting him in shape said the main thing they did was change his attitude regarding hard work.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:22 PM

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tmacerus wrote:
Bryanth1a wrote:
backthepack93 wrote: Here's some Amerson quotes from talking to the press at the combine:

"I'm disappointed with how I approached this season. I didn't have the right mentality."

"I sat on routes and was guessing. It resulted in the touchdowns I gave up."
Don't worry Amerson, you're forever be a Wolfpack legend to legions of Pack Pride posters.  Your lackluster play indirectly contributed to the firing of your head coach.
Dude was completely out of shape this year.  In a very short time he put on almost 20 pounds of muscle and the folks getting him in shape said the main thing they did was change his attitude regarding hard work.
He looked cut and in shape to me.  His play didn't suffer because he was out of shape; it suffered because he didn't play discipline football.

"If you want the truth, ask me".

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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:24 PM

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LOLOLOLOL at the 40 times of these RBs. That's why I openly LOL at posters when they post a high school kid's 40 as 4.3 or 4.4 and consider a player who runs a 4.6 as being too slow. Those 40 yard times are as truthful as a politician running for office.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:35 PM

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4.21
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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:48 PM

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Bryanth1a wrote: LOLOLOLOL at the 40 times of these RBs. That's why I openly LOL at posters when they post a high school kid's 40 as 4.3 or 4.4 and consider a player who runs a 4.6 as being too slow. Those 40 yard times are as truthful as a politician running for office.
So true. I can only assume that most of the 40 times you see posted for high school guys come from someone asking the player himself what his 40 is and the kid says "4.4"

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Posted: 2/24/2013 2:51 PM

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9mariowilliams90 wrote: Amerson - 6'1" 205 - 32.5" arm length
Wolff - 5'11" 209 - 31.5" arm length
Amerson shrunk 2 inches?

SABOTAGE!!!
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Posted: 2/24/2013 3:00 PM

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These combine numbers aren't accurate either, but remember the great philosopher, Andre Agassi, had it right so many years ago, "image is everything".

Add 0.20 to 0.24 to all of these official times. So an Olympic level athlete, Goodwin, actually runs 4.47 to 4.51. But that doesn't excite the senses. Of course, it's all relative to their peers.

This from a 2012 article leading up to the combine.

www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/en...682485/34964121

In a first, the Combine will use Fully Automated Timing, meaning electronic devices will be used for both the start and the finish of each 40-yard run. However, these FAT 40-yard times will not be revealed to players or NFL teams, The Sports Xchange has learned.
  
Most player workouts will be between Saturday and Monday, with some special teams players only working out on Friday.
  
NFL teams were briefed on the new timing method Wednesday. Because NFL teams keep 40 times to a hundredth of a second, there has long been a push to further legitimize those times by using the same methods as track and field and the Olympics.
  
However, according to coaches and scouts who discussed this with The Sports Xchange, the FAT times are expected to be .20 to .24 seconds slower than the relative times recorded using methods the Combine has gone with since 1990, and before.
  
"We were told it is just an experiment and we won't be told the results," said one team official. "People are worried about the reaction players may have if the 40 times change that much."
  
Combine, team and league officials are concerned that an abrupt change to recognizing the more accurate FAT times would create a culture shock of sorts for players. These players have long been told that, for skilled positions such as wide receiver, cornerback and running back, a 4.30 clocking is elite, a 4.40 is extremely good, a 4.50 is good and 4.70 and above may be cause for concern at those positions for an NFL prospect.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 3:07 PM

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Bryanth1a wrote:
tmacerus wrote:
Bryanth1a wrote:
backthepack93 wrote: Here's some Amerson quotes from talking to the press at the combine:

"I'm disappointed with how I approached this season. I didn't have the right mentality."

"I sat on routes and was guessing. It resulted in the touchdowns I gave up."
Don't worry Amerson, you're forever be a Wolfpack legend to legions of Pack Pride posters.  Your lackluster play indirectly contributed to the firing of your head coach.
Dude was completely out of shape this year.  In a very short time he put on almost 20 pounds of muscle and the folks getting him in shape said the main thing they did was change his attitude regarding hard work.
He looked cut and in shape to me.  His play didn't suffer because he was out of shape; it suffered because he didn't play discipline football.
I thought he looked a step slower in the 4th quarter during a couple of games.  Maryland comes to mind.  Played an outstanding first half and then seemed a step slower in the 2nd. 

Frustrating to look at the previous staff and see what they didn't get out of our best players.  I understand that you shouldn't have to hold a college-aged kids hand to get him to workout but to many our guys weren't in top phyiscal form.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 3:10 PM

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LetsGoState wrote:
9mariowilliams90 wrote: Amerson - 6'1" 205 - 32.5" arm length
Wolff - 5'11" 209 - 31.5" arm length
Amerson shrunk 2 inches?
*snicker*

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Ron Kelly

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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:50 PM

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FWIW, Amerson said he was gunning for picks the whole season and also took responsibility for the last play against Miami.

Last edited 2/24/2013 4:51 PM by Brinsanity

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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:58 PM

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Brinsanity wrote: FWIW, Amerson said he was gunning for picks the whole season and also took responsibility for the last play against Miami.
TOB's reluctance to remove him from games on repeated bad plays or lack of effort was the start of me losing faith in him as the Pack's coach. 

I wish Amerson well but for an entire season he put his own selfish interests ahead of team goals.  Unfortunately, in my eyes, that overrides the great 2011 season he had.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 4:59 PM

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Brinsanity wrote: FWIW, Amerson said he was gunning for picks the whole season and also took responsibility for the last play against Miami.
I think any real Pack fan knew that from watching him play just 3 or 4 games this year.
 
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Posted: 2/24/2013 5:43 PM

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dunlow66 wrote:
Brinsanity wrote: FWIW, Amerson said he was gunning for picks the whole season and also took responsibility for the last play against Miami.
I think any real Pack fan knew that from watching him play just 3 or 4 games this year.
3 or 4 games? Psh. We saw it in the first half of the first game.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:08 PM

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LetsGoState wrote:
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TOB screwed Crisp. Should have been red shirted his freshman year. He played very few minutes, and even with those few minutes, it was easy to see he was not ready for college ball. Why TOB burned his redshirt for just a few minutes I will never know. He did it a few other times as well.

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we'll see on crisp. he isn't out of time

mattes was a technique guy. glad he came to state and appreciate his effort

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Did the same thing to Stocker.


I have a lot of beefs with TOB, but that is not one of them.  Your back-up HAS to play some downs.  He was one play away from having to be our starter. 

I guess you could argue that our walk-on could have been number 2, but that seems to be a silly argument.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:38 PM

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Ontario McCaleb from Auburn just ran a 4.21 40, faster than Chris Johnson's record of 4.24
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Posted: 2/24/2013 6:55 PM

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LetsGoState wrote: All this talk is making me have memories of Curtis Crouch.
and Derek Morris aka "False Start"
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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:00 PM

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flair1 wrote: Ontario McCaleb from Auburn just ran a 4.21 40, faster than Chris Johnson's record of 4.24
You are watching the replay.  He did that around 1:30 p.m. today.  They later adjust it to around 4.31 when they release the official times.  Johnson's 40 still stands as the fastest.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:28 PM

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How is Chris Johnson's time the record? Bo Jackson ran a 4.12 at the 1986 combine.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:30 PM

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Bryanth1a wrote:
Brinsanity wrote: FWIW, Amerson said he was gunning for picks the whole season and also took responsibility for the last play against Miami.
TOB's reluctance to remove him from games on repeated bad plays or lack of effort was the start of me losing faith in him as the Pack's coach. 

I wish Amerson well but for an entire season he put his own selfish interests ahead of team goals.  Unfortunately, in my eyes, that overrides the great 2011 season he had.
Same can be said for TOB.  Like coach, like player.  He got it honest.
"This team has been here before. Guys want to make plays. Guys don't have big eyes in the huddle." - Jake Delhomme, QB, Carolina Panthers
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Posted: 2/24/2013 7:32 PM

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any word on Glennon's performance?
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Posted: 2/24/2013 8:28 PM

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PackMentality87 wrote:
LetsGoState wrote:
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TOB screwed Crisp. Should have been red shirted his freshman year. He played very few minutes, and even with those few minutes, it was easy to see he was not ready for college ball. Why TOB burned his redshirt for just a few minutes I will never know. He did it a few other times as well.

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we'll see on crisp. he isn't out of time

mattes was a technique guy. glad he came to state and appreciate his effort

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Did the same thing to Stocker.


I have a lot of beefs with TOB, but that is not one of them.  Your back-up HAS to play some downs.  He was one play away from having to be our starter. 

I guess you could argue that our walk-on could have been number 2, but that seems to be a silly argument.


Why did we have to get Stocker snaps?  Glennon had proven to be pretty reliable by playing every snap meaningul snap the previous year.  Besides - if Glennon went down for an extended period of time, would three or four snaps really give Stocker an advantage? 


And when we put Stocker in the game - most of the time it was to hand the ******* ball off.  We didn't even let him air out. 

I stuck around for all four quarters of the UVA debacle just to see a chance to see Stocker throw the ball.  But TOB and Bible didn't even let him throw it.

Crisp redshirt was wasted so we could beat Western Carolina when Vermigilio was suspended. 

And yes I'm bitter.  TOB personally owes me 30 minutes of my life back after that UVA debacle. 

Last edited 2/24/2013 8:30 PM by 9mariowilliams90

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Posted: 2/24/2013 8:40 PM

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The kind of plays Stocker got, and he got very few plays at all, would have been of little help if he had to play for real.

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LetsGoState wrote:
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--- Prowler wrote:

TOB screwed Crisp. Should have been red shirted his freshman year. He played very few minutes, and even with those few minutes, it was easy to see he was not ready for college ball. Why TOB burned his redshirt for just a few minutes I will never know. He did it a few other times as well.

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--- codewolfhowl wrote:

we'll see on crisp. he isn't out of time

mattes was a technique guy. glad he came to state and appreciate his effort

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Did the same thing to Stocker.


I have a lot of beefs with TOB, but that is not one of them.  Your back-up HAS to play some downs.  He was one play away from having to be our starter. 

I guess you could argue that our walk-on could have been number 2, but that seems to be a silly argument.

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Posted: 2/24/2013 8:53 PM

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Coach23 wrote: any word on Glennon's performance?
Ran a 5.00 in the 40. 

I think he has another run soon.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 1:04 AM

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Glennon with a 4.94 40 26.5" vert 102" broad, 6' 7 225. Handled himself well in the interview. For the workout apparently it was as expected, made some great throws and missed a few. General consensus seems to be that he neither helped or hurt his status.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 8:00 AM

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glenn1 wrote:
LetsGoState wrote: All this talk is making me have memories of Curtis Crouch.
and Derek Morris aka "Drive Killer"
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Posted: 2/25/2013 8:32 AM

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ofwolfandman wrote: Glennon with a 4.94 40 26.5" vert 102" broad, 6' 7 225. Handled himself well in the interview. For the workout apparently it was as expected, made some great throws and missed a few. General consensus seems to be that he neither helped or hurt his status.
Makes this old white man feel very athletic.  I think I might be able to beat a couple of those numbers today.  Now arm comparison would be funny.  biggrin
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:46 AM

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any word on Glennon's performance?

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From all that I have read, it seems he did ok....not great. Really did not do anyrhing to stand out and is still behind Geno Smith.

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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:52 AM

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ofwolfandman wrote: Glennon with a 4.94 40 26.5" vert 102" broad, 6' 7 225. Handled himself well in the interview. For the workout apparently it was as expected, made some great throws and missed a few. General consensus seems to be that he neither helped or hurt his status.


I think he is going to end up being a guy that some of the coaches/scouts fall in love with and some of them avoid completely. 

I probably wouldn't take him in the first two rounds. Third round seems about accurate.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 4:28 PM

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Overall I am happy for these young men, they get to follow their dreams.  If the continue to work hard and can get lucky, they will have a wonderful NFL life for some years and get fianically set for life.

I wish them well.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 4:55 PM

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vapack94 wrote:
ofwolfandman wrote: Glennon with a 4.94 40 26.5" vert 102" broad, 6' 7 225. Handled himself well in the interview. For the workout apparently it was as expected, made some great throws and missed a few. General consensus seems to be that he neither helped or hurt his status

Geez, I read that wrong at first. 102" vertical. He should have been playing bball. lol

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Posted: 2/25/2013 6:05 PM

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manti teo barely beat glennon in the 40 yard dash. lol at whoever picks that basketcase
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Posted: 2/25/2013 6:59 PM

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rowdy2000 wrote: manti teo barely beat glennon in the 40 yard dash. lol at whoever picks that basketcase

Apparently he absolutely wowed everyone in the interviews. I think the questions about his overall athleticism didn't get answered in his favor but I would say that his stock is probably even or possibly up after the combine.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:08 PM

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manti was the fourth best linebacker on the field ,when they played alabama

  runner up as a heisman candidate?  just let's one realize the political/money/sports clout a school like notre dame can wield
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:35 PM

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Bryanth1a wrote:
LetsGoState wrote:
9mariowilliams90 wrote: Amerson - 6'1" 205 - 32.5" arm length
Wolff - 5'11" 209 - 31.5" arm length
Amerson shrunk 2 inches?
*snicker*

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Who?

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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:39 PM

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Geno Smith ran a 4.59 40-yard dash.  Who was it around here telling me he was just as slow as Glennon? 

Also, I've seen on the NLFN crawl that the only players listed for NCSU's pro day are Glennon, Wolff, and Allen.  Amerson just doing the combine or are they just forgetting to add him to the crawl?
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:29 AM

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packmanncsu wrote: Geno Smith ran a 4.59 40-yard dash.  Who was it around here telling me he was just as slow as Glennon? 

Also, I've seen on the NLFN crawl that the only players listed for NCSU's pro day are Glennon, Wolff, and Allen.  Amerson just doing the combine or are they just forgetting to add him to the crawl?

Amerson is there. Put up 15 reps in the bench. Glennon is basically the only guy that has gotten any coverage at all and it's been largely negative at this point. Allen has had no press and Amerson and Wolff haven't either. The DB's do 40's, vertical, broad jump and the drills tomorrow. Maybe one of our DB's can do something.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 5:18 AM

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THEkungfoodude wrote:
packmanncsu wrote: Geno Smith ran a 4.59 40-yard dash.  Who was it around here telling me he was just as slow as Glennon? 

Also, I've seen on the NLFN crawl that the only players listed for NCSU's pro day are Glennon, Wolff, and Allen.  Amerson just doing the combine or are they just forgetting to add him to the crawl?

Amerson is there. Put up 15 reps in the bench. Glennon is basically the only guy that has gotten any coverage at all and it's been largely negative at this point. Allen has had no press and Amerson and Wolff haven't either. The DB's do 40's, vertical, broad jump and the drills tomorrow. Maybe one of our DB's can do something.

He stated Amerson isn't listed for the PRO DAY that is held at State...not the combine. We all know hes at the combine.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 7:40 AM

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Bryanth1a wrote:
backthepack93 wrote: Here's some Amerson quotes from talking to the press at the combine:

"I'm disappointed with how I approached this season. I didn't have the right mentality."

"I sat on routes and was guessing. It resulted in the touchdowns I gave up."
Don't worry Amerson, you're forever be a Wolfpack legend to legions of Pack Pride posters.  Your lackluster play indirectly contributed to the firing of your head coach.
Dark Cloud meet Silver Lining.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 8:08 AM

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I wonder how many Wolff put up in the bench.  He seems like he would be a gym rat.
THEkungfoodude wrote:
packmanncsu wrote: Geno Smith ran a 4.59 40-yard dash.  Who was it around here telling me he was just as slow as Glennon? 

Also, I've seen on the NLFN crawl that the only players listed for NCSU's pro day are Glennon, Wolff, and Allen.  Amerson just doing the combine or are they just forgetting to add him to the crawl?

Amerson is there. Put up 15 reps in the bench. Glennon is basically the only guy that has gotten any coverage at all and it's been largely negative at this point. Allen has had no press and Amerson and Wolff haven't either. The DB's do 40's, vertical, broad jump and the drills tomorrow. Maybe one of our DB's can do something.
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