I logged in to the front page of PackPride, saw the headline about Sid, and thought to myself..."that explains why my internet has been running so slow today"

Second!

camvilpack wrote:

grantwolf wrote: You have to pay taxes on your wages, regardless of whether or not you earned them.

LOLOL!!!!!!! Nominated.

Best post ever!

Turbo tax is your friend!  Did my taxes last night and it took me all of 30 minutes.

mark4java wrote: Second!

camvilpack wrote:

grantwolf wrote: You have to pay taxes on your wages, regardless of whether or not you earned them.

LOLOL!!!!!!! Nominated.

Coach L Folwer @Lee_Folwer in all fairness, if they're gonna have state taxes, they should have carolina and duke taxes, too.

Gopack80 wrote:

grantwolf wrote:

wolfpack777 wrote: From one of our rival coaches on twitter

@CoachBrewerUNC Don't forget income taxes are due April 15th! #GoHeels

#notourrivalloller

From all accounts, doesn't look like this guy misses a chance to take a shot at a rival school.

Who is Coach Brewer?

When I figure out who he is I'll ask him if he knows somebody named Dexter Strickland.

1321wolf wrote:

packmanncsu wrote:

1321wolf wrote:

wolfpackernc wrote:

1321wolf wrote: 
Why would you assume that the government doesn't make mistakes, or worse?

No one is assuming that - it's just that either your taxes are filed or they aren't.  They didn't charge him with tax evasion - only failure to file.  That's pretty black and white.

Failure to file - assuming it is legitimate - doesn't even mean he didn't pay his taxes. I'm sure NC State withheld his state taxes while he was working here. In fact by not filing it's likely he overpaid his taxes. He'll probably end up getting a refund!

That's not necessarily the case.  Yes, he would have had his state taxes come out of each paycheck, but as a poor government worker myself, I can tell you that the employer doesn't always take enough out. 

My wife and I generally get a refund from one that takes care of about half of the other.  Certain municipalities/government entities generally get to hire the accountants that can't hack it on their own or people that aren't accountants to begin with.  That said, depending on what his salary was for those years, I agree with the poster who said it's probably a nominal amount (for him), probably less than $25K.

I'm just speculating, I have no information.

But if you're not getting enough money taken out (congratulations, you aren't giving the government an interest free loan) then change your W-4 form.

I wondered about this too and tried to read all of the pages to learn more.   If it were federal taxes or he owned a small business in this economy, I could understand all of the attention.   It's rare though imo for a state employee to owe money and even if he did, it can only be because of his high profile status or something more here that would have caused the state to file charges.  I hope that his federal taxes are in order because they'll be knocking on the door soon.  Best of luck to him.

HollySpringsWolf wrote: Unless Sidney Lowe was being paid as a 1099 contractor, he was paying North Carolina taxes by virtue of his paycheck.  Whether he paid the correct amount is another story.

Before I jump on the bandwagon, I need to know whether or not he's an official North Carolina resident.

He may have properly filed his taxes in whatever state he claims residency, and his actual NC tax liability might be 0.

He should file an NC return because he WORKED here, but he may not officially LIVE here, and this might be a misunderstanding, and an arrest may not be appropriate.

This.

I wish we would give one of our own the benefit of the doubt.  If he legitimately owes he should pay.

But don't let me stop y'all from the enjoyment many of you seem to have at making fun of a guy who won a championship with us.

PackLitig8r wrote:

NIT Stan @ NITStan

Hey @ CoachBrewerUNC ... don't forget: Final Exams are April 30 to May 7! # carolinaway 8:03 PM - 18 Feb 13

 

Get 'em Stan!

wolfpackernc wrote:

PackLitig8r wrote:

NIT Stan @ NITStan

Hey @ CoachBrewerUNC ... don't forget: Final Exams are April 30 to May 7! # carolinaway 8:03 PM - 18 Feb 13

 

Get 'em Stan!

That's awesome

Jim Martin has investigated this and determined it is a Turbo Tax problem only.

@kevinedit
@CoachBrewerUNC Grades due soon too. (Except for the fake classes) #GoPack!
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I tried to let him know something too. I'm sure UNC is loving this though. Actually good comeback by UNC but they just opened up the twitter door.

Pack84a wrote:

HollySpringsWolf wrote: Unless Sidney Lowe was being paid as a 1099 contractor, he was paying North Carolina taxes by virtue of his paycheck.  Whether he paid the correct amount is another story.

Before I jump on the bandwagon, I need to know whether or not he's an official North Carolina resident.

He may have properly filed his taxes in whatever state he claims residency, and his actual NC tax liability might be 0.

He should file an NC return because he WORKED here, but he may not officially LIVE here, and this might be a misunderstanding, and an arrest may not be appropriate.

This.

I wish we would give one of our own the benefit of the doubt.  If he legitimately owes he should pay.

But don't let me stop y'all from the enjoyment many of you seem to have at making fun of a guy who won a championship with us.

It's not an issue of whether or not he owes money. It's that he didn't even file his taxes.  You are required to file a tax return if you have earned income in that State.  It doesn't matter if you owe money or are due money, you still have to file.  Anyone that makes as much money as he did should know that.

Gonna be more to this story. My money says its a dispute over income from one of Sid's other corporations/partnerships.

NCSUfan81 wrote:

Pack84a wrote:

HollySpringsWolf wrote: Unless Sidney Lowe was being paid as a 1099 contractor, he was paying North Carolina taxes by virtue of his paycheck.  Whether he paid the correct amount is another story.

Before I jump on the bandwagon, I need to know whether or not he's an official North Carolina resident.

He may have properly filed his taxes in whatever state he claims residency, and his actual NC tax liability might be 0.

He should file an NC return because he WORKED here, but he may not officially LIVE here, and this might be a misunderstanding, and an arrest may not be appropriate.

This.

I wish we would give one of our own the benefit of the doubt.  If he legitimately owes he should pay.

But don't let me stop y'all from the enjoyment many of you seem to have at making fun of a guy who won a championship with us.

It's not an issue of whether or not he owes money. It's that he didn't even file his taxes.  You are required to file a tax return if you have earned income in that State.  It doesn't matter if you owe money or are due money, you still have to file.  Anyone that makes as much money as he did should know that.

No.  I admit to being woefully uninformed as to the specifics of this situation, but the STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA says he didn't file his taxes.

And there's a huge difference between being charged with some crime and actually being guilty of it.  And a judge and jury can decide what the facts are, even assuming this goes to trial which I doubt.

There has to be more, it just doesn't work this way.  The state of Ohio accused me of not paying taxes for three years--and they were right--and put a lien against me and sent me a certified letter.  They didn't just show up out of the blue at my house and arrest me.

NCSUfan81 wrote:

Pack84a wrote:

HollySpringsWolf wrote: Unless Sidney Lowe was being paid as a 1099 contractor, he was paying North Carolina taxes by virtue of his paycheck.  Whether he paid the correct amount is another story.

Before I jump on the bandwagon, I need to know whether or not he's an official North Carolina resident.

He may have properly filed his taxes in whatever state he claims residency, and his actual NC tax liability might be 0.

He should file an NC return because he WORKED here, but he may not officially LIVE here, and this might be a misunderstanding, and an arrest may not be appropriate.

This.

I wish we would give one of our own the benefit of the doubt.  If he legitimately owes he should pay.

But don't let me stop y'all from the enjoyment many of you seem to have at making fun of a guy who won a championship with us.

It's not an issue of whether or not he owes money. It's that he didn't even file his taxes.  You are required to file a tax return if you have earned income in that State.  It doesn't matter if you owe money or are due money, you still have to file.  Anyone that makes as much money as he did should know that.

I give him every benefit of the doubt and have no knowledge of what he might owe, but it does seem strange that he would not know that, that both parties would not have tried to prevent this from going public and that he would owe much in state taxes.  Of course he's in a different tax bracket than most of us...not sure how good Turbo Tax is for that.  

NCSUfan81 wrote:

Pack84a wrote:

HollySpringsWolf wrote: Unless Sidney Lowe was being paid as a 1099 contractor, he was paying North Carolina taxes by virtue of his paycheck.  Whether he paid the correct amount is another story.

Before I jump on the bandwagon, I need to know whether or not he's an official North Carolina resident.

He may have properly filed his taxes in whatever state he claims residency, and his actual NC tax liability might be 0.

He should file an NC return because he WORKED here, but he may not officially LIVE here, and this might be a misunderstanding, and an arrest may not be appropriate.

This.

I wish we would give one of our own the benefit of the doubt.  If he legitimately owes he should pay.

But don't let me stop y'all from the enjoyment many of you seem to have at making fun of a guy who won a championship with us.

It's not an issue of whether or not he owes money. It's that he didn't even file his taxes.  You are required to file a tax return if you have earned income in that State.  It doesn't matter if you owe money or are due money, you still have to file.  Anyone that makes as much money as he did should know that.

Yes, failure to file is a big deal. This is the main reason people go to prison over taxes. If he did not file, he is an idiot, given that he was a W2 employee of the State of North Carolina during this time frame. It was not like he was running a cash business with no paper trail.

 I certainly hoped he filed his Federal taxes otherwise Sidney may be doing some time in Butner with a lot of other guys who failed to file.

Again folks, he is not merely being charged with failure to file. That does not generally warrant arrest - it gets you letters, calls, and penalties.

The key word is WILLFUL. Willful failure to file a return. This could just be some rookie ADA trying to make a name for himself, but it is possible if not probable that they have some sort of evidence of him affirmatively not filing or not reporting something.

RedwolfTV wrote: @kevinedit
@CoachBrewerUNC Grades due soon too. (Except for the fake classes) #GoPack!
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I tried to let him know something too. I'm sure UNC is loving this though. Actually good comeback by UNC but they just opened up the twitter door.

@CoachBrewerUNC don't forget UNC Athletes your AFAM studies class is at 6pm #GoPack

It's like the People's Court in here.

Man. That was dumb Syd.

damn UNCCheat mailman stole his returns

Banner day on the police reports for NCSU. Geez....

Looks like the same year he and his wife split up.  Wonder if that had something to do with it?  He is a good guy, hard to believe he was pulling a Wes Snipes.

Ben Washburn wrote: There has to be more, it just doesn't work this way.  The state of Ohio accused me of not paying taxes for three years--and they were right--and put a lien against me and sent me a certified letter.  They didn't just show up out of the blue at my house and arrest me.

Do you have the same kind of income as Sid? Also he spends a lot of time out of state.

FeloniousQ wrote: Again folks, he is not merely being charged with failure to file. That does not generally warrant arrest - it gets you letters, calls, and penalties.

The key word is WILLFUL. Willful failure to file a return. This could just be some rookie ADA trying to make a name for himself, but it is possible if not probable that they have some sort of evidence of him affirmatively not filing or not reporting something.

granted it looks like he didnt file for 3 years?....but regardless something else must be going on here because to arrest anyone seemingly out of the blue for this is kinda harsh.  I mean its not like Sid was dealing crack on the corner...or burglary et al ....send the warning letters, garnish wages but to arrest someone?really?

PackLitig8r wrote:

NIT Stan @ NITStan

Hey @ CoachBrewerUNC ... don't forget: Final Exams are April 30 to May 7! # carolinaway 8:03 PM - 18 Feb 13

 

Nice!

FeloniousQ wrote: Again folks, he is not merely being charged with failure to file. That does not generally warrant arrest - it gets you letters, calls, and penalties.

The key word is WILLFUL. Willful failure to file a return. This could just be some rookie ADA trying to make a name for himself, but it is possible if not probable that they have some sort of evidence of him affirmatively not filing or not reporting something.

This has to be the case, NC is more agressive than IRS, but to get this point there is much more going on than simply not filing.  If this was the normal, you didn't file your return, it would have started with letters for a year maybe 2, then a phone call, the state will send a sheriff to knock on your door to deliver correspondence in person, if the state believes they are due some money they could garnish wages, use bank liens or even levy his account.  If he didn't file his Federal return the IRS has likely filed it for him by now for 2009, probably not 2010 or 2011 yet. 

There are several things that SHOULD have played out by now, before it gets to this point. But like you said the state has something on him, that is very serious.  Big dollars.

Pack2004 wrote: He can now spend more time with his son who is also behind bars...

Guess the Jazz will fire him soon.....

It's a class 1 misdemeanor.. he's not facing any active jail time for a first offense and no prison time in any case.

PackLawyer04 wrote:

HollySpringsWolf wrote: If Sidney actually owes anything to the state, it's probably less than $10,000.

It's a bull**** arrest.

As I have stated before, unless he was a 1099 contractor while coaching, he was paying his taxes by virtue of the withholding.

I am sure there are others out there in the state that owe much more than this and have not been arrested or even threatened with arrest.

They don't just arrest people who mistakenly forget to file their tax returns.  If you do, you will get a friendly reminder letter, and several follow up letters in the mail.

It is not like they just woke up and decided to arrest him one morning.

I have a feeling that you will find out he got into some major financial difficulties.

Or that those notices went to his ex-wife's house and she vindictively failed to forward them... possible?

DJ9686 wrote:

Ben Washburn wrote: There has to be more, it just doesn't work this way.  The state of Ohio accused me of not paying taxes for three years--and they were right--and put a lien against me and sent me a certified letter.  They didn't just show up out of the blue at my house and arrest me.

Do you have the same kind of income as Sid? Also he spends a lot of time out of state.

Did you file? Not paying taxes is not as severe as failure to file.

He might as well have committed murder, according to some around here.

derp

WolfpackOdyssey wrote:

hunwolf wrote:

WolfpackOdyssey wrote: for the record, misdemeanor counts are criminal counts. just "lesser" one than felony counts

I never knew this. Hmm...

one of the lawyers around here might tell me i'm wrong, but the way i understand it is that there is civil law where cases are contested between individuals, i.e. goldman's family suing oj for wrongful death, and criminal law where an individual is charged with a misdemeanor or felony by the state and tried by the state, i.e. oj arrested and tried for murder.  

i guess if you sue the government it is a civil case, but i have no clue on that circumstance.

eta: felonies and misdemeanors (and infractions(?)  - things like speeding tickets) are criminal offenses of varying degrees

An infraction is not a "criminal offense" in that it is not a crime, but an infraction.

Steve Martin: "When the IRS comes to your door and wants to know why you did not pay your taxes I have the perfect defense for you."

"Just say. I Forgot!"

st8dukegrad87 wrote:

DJ9686 wrote:

Ben Washburn wrote: There has to be more, it just doesn't work this way.  The state of Ohio accused me of not paying taxes for three years--and they were right--and put a lien against me and sent me a certified letter.  They didn't just show up out of the blue at my house and arrest me.

Do you have the same kind of income as Sid? Also he spends a lot of time out of state.

Did you file? Not paying taxes is not as severe as failure to file.

NC is more concerned about their money, than your paperwork.

goturbackpack66 wrote: He might as well have committed murder, according to some around here.

Who?

RiseUp wrote:

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--- WolfpackOdyssey wrote:

for the record, misdemeanor counts are criminal counts. just "lesser" one than felony counts

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A misdemeanor carries a punishment up to a year in jail. A felony is at least one year in jail. Both are criminal counts.

On the MBE maybe... but not here in North Carolina.  

The maximum sentence for the most serious A1 misdemeanors in NC is 150 days under Structured Sentencing.  

An Aggravated Level 1 DWI (a misdemeanor) can carry as much time as 5 years under Fair Sentencing.

st8dukegrad87 wrote:

DJ9686 wrote:

Ben Washburn wrote: There has to be more, it just doesn't work this way.  The state of Ohio accused me of not paying taxes for three years--and they were right--and put a lien against me and sent me a certified letter.  They didn't just show up out of the blue at my house and arrest me.

Do you have the same kind of income as Sid? Also he spends a lot of time out of state.

The same kind of income, no...but I am better at my job than he was at his.