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Posted: 2/17/2013 5:29 PM

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N&O writers slobbering all over him today
Anyone remember any articles on DT turning 50?
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Posted: 2/17/2013 5:39 PM

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Posted: 2/17/2013 5:53 PM

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The amount of hatred spewing from this board for quite possibly the greatest example of somebody maximizing their genetic ability is astounding. Is Michael Jordan an ***hole? Absolutely. Is Michael Jordan one of meanest, dirtiest basketball players ever to play? Definitely? Is Michael Jordan incredibly egotistical? No doubt about it. However, he is the greatest NBA player of all time. He is one of the greatest winners that any sport has ever known. Hate him for all the things he is, but don't let that take away from his greatness as a player and as a transcendent athlete.

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Posted: 2/17/2013 5:56 PM

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Planet Boulder wrote: A hearty congrats to that piece of **** for doing what many around the world do on a daily basis: turning 50.

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Posted: 2/17/2013 6:13 PM

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Don't care he played for UNC, Jordan is the GOAT and next to Dirk is my favorite player of all time. He even said Dirk 1 of the only 4 players who could play with his era and be as successful as they are now. Thought it was a great read. Liked this part:

The announcers gush about LeBron, mentioning him in the same sentence with Jordan, who hears every word. Those words have an effect on him. He stares at the TV and points out a flaw in LeBron's game.


"I study him," he says.


When LeBron goes right, he usually drives; when he goes left, he usually shoots a jumper. It has to do with his mechanics and how he loads the ball for release. "So if I have to guard him," Jordan says, "I'm gonna push him left so nine times out of 10, he's gonna shoot a jump shot. If he goes right, he's going to the hole and I can't stop him. So I ain't letting him go right."


For the rest of the game, when LeBron gets the ball and starts his move, Jordan will call out some variation of "drive" or "shoot." It's not just LeBron. He sees fouls the officials miss, and the replays prove him right. When someone shoots, he knows immediately whether it's going in. He calls out what guys are going to do before they do it, more plugged into the flow of the game than some of the players on the court. He's answering texts, buried in his phone, when the play-by-play guy announces a LeBron jump shot. Without looking up, Jordan says, "Left?"

Posted: 2/17/2013 6:32 PM

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He's certainly been a great GM. wink

As for evaluating today's players, Jordan just can't let it go.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 6:50 PM

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Greatest baller of all time and one of the biggest pos ever to walk the face of the earth
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Posted: 2/17/2013 6:52 PM

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jds0881 wrote: Greatest baller of all time and one of the biggest pos ever to walk the face of the earth
He rape anyone? Murder anyone? Hurt little kids? 

Please tell me what he did that makes him one of the biggest POS to roam the earth? Gambled with own money? Drank? Serial cheater?

None of those things qualify you as a the biggest POS to walk the face of the earth. An immature ridiculous statement to make.

Posted: 2/17/2013 9:48 PM

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Funny you say that. He grew up a David Thompson and NC State fan and probably would have gone to State had Norm Sloan still been the coach. He selects David Thompson to present him at the Hall of Fame. Imagine that...he picks somebody from the school that UNC considers inferior in every way rather than somebody from the so called Carolina family. Can you imagine the biggest name ever out of UNC doing just that? I noticed a lot of tarholes did not even want to talk about it hoping it would just pass by quietly and it did because their friends at ESPN were silent. You really think he is a typical tarhole *****bag?
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Posted: 2/17/2013 11:43 PM

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Here's an interview of Craig Ehlo who was lit up by MJ more than anyone in the league. He says Michael was never cruel, arrogant or mean in his trash talking. If anyone ever had something negative to say about MJ it would be this guy but he does the opposite.

http://deadspin.com/5984767/im...g-to-craig-ehlo
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Posted: 2/17/2013 11:46 PM

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SidsSouljahBoy wrote: Don't care he played for UNC, Jordan is the GOAT and next to Dirk is my favorite player of all time. He even said Dirk 1 of the only 4 players who could play with his era and be as successful as they are now. Thought it was a great read. Liked this part:

The announcers gush about LeBron, mentioning him in the same sentence with Jordan, who hears every word. Those words have an effect on him. He stares at the TV and points out a flaw in LeBron's game.


"I study him," he says.


When LeBron goes right, he usually drives; when he goes left, he usually shoots a jumper. It has to do with his mechanics and how he loads the ball for release. "So if I have to guard him," Jordan says, "I'm gonna push him left so nine times out of 10, he's gonna shoot a jump shot. If he goes right, he's going to the hole and I can't stop him. So I ain't letting him go right."


For the rest of the game, when LeBron gets the ball and starts his move, Jordan will call out some variation of "drive" or "shoot." It's not just LeBron. He sees fouls the officials miss, and the replays prove him right. When someone shoots, he knows immediately whether it's going in. He calls out what guys are going to do before they do it, more plugged into the flow of the game than some of the players on the court. He's answering texts, buried in his phone, when the play-by-play guy announces a LeBron jump shot. Without looking up, Jordan says, "Left?"

He should pass that scouting report to the rest of the league.

If Jordan could only evaluate talent the way he thinks he knows LeBron, maybe the Bobcats wouldn't be a damn joke.



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Posted: 2/17/2013 11:47 PM

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SidsSouljahBoy wrote:
jds0881 wrote: Greatest baller of all time and one of the biggest pos ever to walk the face of the earth
He rape anyone? Murder anyone? Hurt little kids? 

Please tell me what he did that makes him one of the biggest POS to roam the earth? Gambled with own money? Drank? Serial cheater?

None of those things qualify you as a the biggest POS to walk the face of the earth. An immature ridiculous statement to make.

It would be interesting to see how MJ would be viewed publicly if all his off-court issues were aired in today's version of the media. 

24-hour sports, games televised virtually every day, the Internet... MJ didn't have to deal with that like today's stars do.



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Posted: 2/17/2013 11:51 PM

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sleightofhand wrote: Here's an interview of Craig Ehlo who was lit up by MJ more than anyone in the league. He says Michael was never cruel, arrogant or mean in his trash talking. If anyone ever had something negative to say about MJ it would be this guy but he does the opposite.

http://deadspin.com/5984767/im...g-to-craig-ehlo
Here you go from Rick Reilly: LINK

The thing Jordan doesn't understand is, it doesn't have to be this way. Terry Bradshaw won four Super Bowls and gave one of the greatest speeches in the history of the Hall of Fame. "Folks!" he hollered. "You don't get elected into the Hall of Fame by yourself! Thank you number 88, Lynn Swann! Thank you, Franco Harris! Thank you Rocky Bleier! What I wouldn't give right now to put my hands under [center] Mike Webster's butt just one more time! Thank you Mike!" He thanked linemen, tight ends, everybody but the ushers.

Had Jordan been in his shoes, he'd have said, "Hey, Steve Kerr! Remember when I kicked your *** in that fight?"

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Posted: 2/17/2013 11:58 PM

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Rivers has never said a bad word in his trash talking but he's crucified for it.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 11:58 PM

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So, after watching the All-Star game tonight, and seeing Kobe shut down LeBron in the 4th quarter by forcing him left, does one contemplate the absolute lack of basketball IQ consistent with this current generations players (since all he did was follow the article of Jordan saying LeBron can't go left except to shoot jumpers)??

The greatness of guys like Jordan, Magic, Byrd, and others of the 70s, 80s, and 90s is that the game was played more with the mind than it is today. The fundamentals of the game are also lacking amongst some of the stars, like a D. Howard, who could be dominant with good footwork and a better feel for the game.

The game is by far and away more athletic, thanks to improvements in technology (doctors and medicine), health and eating, weight training, and the whole nine yards. The guys then with the benefit of the things from today could've been even better, and had longer careers as well.

Jordan tops LBJ not necessarily on athleticism or numbers alone (Jordan is at a 5 1/2 year disadvantage there due to college 3 years, almost 1 year to injury, and 1 1/2 due to baseball, if LeBron of course stays healthy) but more so on 4 things that aren't all necessarily measurable, but nonetheless significant:

(1) Drive to win (Greatest competitor in history of game)
(2) FT shooting (nearly 10% difference = huge)
(3) Overall Basketball IQ (student of the game, tendencies, etc)
(4) Being Clutch (Plays his best in the most important moments)

I think LBJ is a great player, but there's only one G.O.A.T.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:07 AM

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Well, it's great to know LBJ isn't going to be able to do anything anymore because Michael Jordan said you just make him go left and he'll shoot a jumper! LOL.

Jordan is obsessed with anyone being potentially better than him.

Like I said earlier, I'd love to see how he'd be treated/viewed with today's media. Imagine him punching a teammate? Think someone would have been able to dig up his affairs like Tiger? The gambling issues?

Lucky for him he played in a time where the only media covering you was basically local and there was no Internet.



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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:44 AM

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Why?  Because he made a lot of money and liked women?   I don't get all the hate for him.  Yeah, he cheated on his wife, just like pretty much every other pro athlete, actor, rocker, politician, and anyone else rich and famous.   Same with his gambling.  And?  His Dad didn't get killed because of his gambling, that's a bunch of truther crap.   You really think he couldn't pay off some debt so his Dad was killed?  Horse crap.  

The dude is simply a poor kid with more talent than anyone ever, and a chip on his shoulder to be the best....and fame, fortune and fate affected him and gave him the ego to become who he is now.  No more, no less.  
Is he a genius?  No.  Great person?  No.   He's a basketball player.  Ridiculous popularity and wealth like he has, attained at a young age, has strange effects on people.  

It was a good article.   

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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:45 AM

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lazybum wrote: So, after watching the All-Star game tonight, and seeing Kobe shut down LeBron in the 4th quarter by forcing him left, does one contemplate the absolute lack of basketball IQ consistent with this current generations players (since all he did was follow the article of Jordan saying LeBron can't go left except to shoot jumpers)??

The greatness of guys like Jordan, Magic, Byrd, and others of the 70s, 80s, and 90s is that the game was played more with the mind than it is today. The fundamentals of the game are also lacking amongst some of the stars, like a D. Howard, who could be dominant with good footwork and a better feel for the game.

The game is by far and away more athletic, thanks to improvements in technology (doctors and medicine), health and eating, weight training, and the whole nine yards. The guys then with the benefit of the things from today could've been even better, and had longer careers as well.

Jordan tops LBJ not necessarily on athleticism or numbers alone (Jordan is at a 5 1/2 year disadvantage there due to college 3 years, almost 1 year to injury, and 1 1/2 due to baseball, if LeBron of course stays healthy) but more so on 4 things that aren't all necessarily measurable, but nonetheless significant:

(1) Drive to win (Greatest competitor in history of game)
(2) FT shooting (nearly 10% difference = huge)
(3) Overall Basketball IQ (student of the game, tendencies, etc)
(4) Being Clutch (Plays his best in the most important moments)

I think LBJ is a great player, but there's only one G.O.A.T.


I agree Michael is the greatest player of all time, but I continue to be impressed with LeBron and how his game is evolving.

He reminds me of Jordan in the following way--six, seven, eight years into their careers, both players developed a comprehensive, nuanced understanding of their respective skill sets, and how to use those skills to make their teammates better, and to impact the outcome of games favorably way more often than not. 

How they achieve this tactically is different, of course.  Michael Jordan was a tremendous athlete, and I still think in his prime he had the most explosive first step of anyone I've seen save for maybe Allen Iverson, and he's 6 or 7 inches taller than the latter. That said, LJ's gifts allow him to dominate games physically in ways not even Jordan could do, and I say this as a huge fan of Michael Jordan, the player.  LeBron James essentially is Chris Paul and Karl Malone all rolled into one player. 

Jordan's unequivocal ruthlessness is what distinguishes him from LeBron and every other player and continues to give him the nod as GOAT in my opinion.   While LeBron may lack Jordan's implacability to some extent, the question I have is, will that even matter over the long term?  Because it's possible LeBron may continue to be able to use his physical dominance and other aforementioned qualities to pile up championships on his own.  If so, it'll then be interesting to compare MJ and LJ... once LJ's career is over.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:47 AM

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I enjoyed the article.  We all have our issues.  MJ's are certainly hard for me to relate with, but understandably so.  He is the greatest competitor I have ever seen.  Tiger is close second.  Obviously, both have sought refuge in unhealthy ways. 

Point seems to be that for MJ, what made him a great basketball player has also made things difficult for him personally. 

We all have to find our path.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:49 AM

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lol, jordan is not even the greatest player of all time.

glad this week long $%#@ sucking by epsn is over, pathetic network.





LOL @ that not getting filtered.

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Posted: 2/18/2013 11:31 AM

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Not really a nice guy...but then again Bird is the same way. Magic obviously had his own character flaws, etc. Guys, people that are this driven to succeed are often "wired" a little different than the rest of the world of average Joes. That is not an excuse for somebody being a total ***, but that cutthroat, competitive nature is what made them great. It is what it is, and they are what they are.

 

 

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Posted: 2/18/2013 11:40 AM

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Helluva baseball player though. Got to give him that if nothing else.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 11:48 AM

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Posted: 2/18/2013 4:02 PM

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Pacfanweb wrote: Why?  Because he made a lot of money and liked women?   I don't get all the hate for him.  Yeah, he cheated on his wife, just like pretty much every other pro athlete, actor, rocker, politician, and anyone else rich and famous.   Same with his gambling.  And?  His Dad didn't get killed because of his gambling, that's a bunch of truther crap.   You really think he couldn't pay off some debt so his Dad was killed?  Horse crap.  

The dude is simply a poor kid with more talent than anyone ever, and a chip on his shoulder to be the best....and fame, fortune and fate affected him and gave him the ego to become who he is now.  No more, no less.  
Is he a genius?  No.  Great person?  No.   He's a basketball player.  Ridiculous popularity and wealth like he has, attained at a young age, has strange effects on people.  

It was a good article.   

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Poor kid?????
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:45 PM

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Agreed...poor kid? Jordan did not grow up poor.
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Pacfanweb wrote: Why?  Because he made a lot of money and liked women?   I don't get all the hate for him.  Yeah, he cheated on his wife, just like pretty much every other pro athlete, actor, rocker, politician, and anyone else rich and famous.   Same with his gambling.  And?  His Dad didn't get killed because of his gambling, that's a bunch of truther crap.   You really think he couldn't pay off some debt so his Dad was killed?  Horse crap.  

The dude is simply a poor kid with more talent than anyone ever, and a chip on his shoulder to be the best....and fame, fortune and fate affected him and gave him the ego to become who he is now.  No more, no less.  
Is he a genius?  No.  Great person?  No.   He's a basketball player.  Ridiculous popularity and wealth like he has, attained at a young age, has strange effects on people.  

It was a good article.   

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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:52 PM

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I would not defend what he has become.  but before his fame, I had a couple of chances to hang around with him and he was not like he seems to be now.  When everyone wants something from you or needs you for their own gain, or if every woman is available to you...it would be easy to get tempted or jaded, i would think.

Posted: 2/18/2013 9:27 PM

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You claim to be a christian, and yet have no idea that Yahweh and Jesus are not the same..


um, okay. Carry on.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:27 PM

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SidsSouljahBoy wrote: Don't care he played for UNC, Jordan is the GOAT and next to Dirk is my favorite player of all time. He even said Dirk 1 of the only 4 players who could play with his era and be as successful as they are now. Thought it was a great read. Liked this part:

The announcers gush about LeBron, mentioning him in the same sentence with Jordan, who hears every word. Those words have an effect on him. He stares at the TV and points out a flaw in LeBron's game.


"I study him," he says.


When LeBron goes right, he usually drives; when he goes left, he usually shoots a jumper. It has to do with his mechanics and how he loads the ball for release. "So if I have to guard him," Jordan says, "I'm gonna push him left so nine times out of 10, he's gonna shoot a jump shot. If he goes right, he's going to the hole and I can't stop him. So I ain't letting him go right."


For the rest of the game, when LeBron gets the ball and starts his move, Jordan will call out some variation of "drive" or "shoot." It's not just LeBron. He sees fouls the officials miss, and the replays prove him right. When someone shoots, he knows immediately whether it's going in. He calls out what guys are going to do before they do it, more plugged into the flow of the game than some of the players on the court. He's answering texts, buried in his phone, when the play-by-play guy announces a LeBron jump shot. Without looking up, Jordan says, "Left?"




That you would go so far as to suck the sweat out of his shorts is not surprising.

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Posted: 2/19/2013 7:53 AM

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He wasn't rich, especially in comparison to what he became.

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Agreed...poor kid? Jordan did not grow up poor.
83grad wrote:
Pacfanweb wrote: Why?  Because he made a lot of money and liked women?   I don't get all the hate for him.  Yeah, he cheated on his wife, just like pretty much every other pro athlete, actor, rocker, politician, and anyone else rich and famous.   Same with his gambling.  And?  His Dad didn't get killed because of his gambling, that's a bunch of truther crap.   You really think he couldn't pay off some debt so his Dad was killed?  Horse crap.  

The dude is simply a poor kid with more talent than anyone ever, and a chip on his shoulder to be the best....and fame, fortune and fate affected him and gave him the ego to become who he is now.  No more, no less.  
Is he a genius?  No.  Great person?  No.   He's a basketball player.  Ridiculous popularity and wealth like he has, attained at a young age, has strange effects on people.  

It was a good article.   

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Poor kid?????


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Posted: 2/19/2013 7:55 AM

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Not really a nice guy...but then again Bird is the same way. Magic obviously had his own character flaws, etc. Guys, people that are this driven to succeed are often "wired" a little different than the rest of the world of average Joes. That is not an excuse for somebody being a total ***, but that cutthroat, competitive nature is what made them great. It is what it is, and they are what they are.

 

 



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"Magic had character flaws", lol. He looks at Jordan's philandering and says "Amateur". Yet he gets a pass because he smiles and talks to the media.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:12 AM

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He pretty much ruined it for me when he started wearing light blue.

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I loved Jordan in his playing days. He was, and still is in my opinion, the best athlete in modern sports. I wish someone would tell him that he's arrived and doesn't have to s#*t on other people. It's like he feels he still has to prove something to somebody. If he would just act with some sense of grace and humility, his legacy would be fine. But I feel like he's ruining it.

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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:15 AM

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Did the NBA do anything to signify this at the All Star game? Or was this all ESPN hype?
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Posted: 2/19/2013 8:17 AM

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His constant need to pick Kobe over Lebron, and critique Lebron's game is a clear indicator that Lebron is his greatest threat in terms of all time greatness.

Posted: 2/19/2013 8:46 AM

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Greatest ever. You could watch his highlight reel all day and there still would be more to see

Posted: 2/19/2013 8:52 AM

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Unlike his daddy, so far he's proven to be too sorry to shoot.

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Wow. Packpride at its finest.

It's amazing to me all the animosity on this thread in terms of scumbag, pos, etc. Why is it that some on here vilify MJ for his personal choices in life yet we hold DT in the highest regard possible? Double standard folks. Admit that he is the greatest to ever play and move on. Would have been really cool if he went to State.

Posted: 2/19/2013 9:25 AM

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SidsSouljahBoy wrote: Don't care he played for UNC, Jordan is the GOAT and next to Dirk is my favorite player of all time. He even said Dirk 1 of the only 4 players who could play with his era and be as successful as they are now. Thought it was a great read. Liked this part:

The announcers gush about LeBron, mentioning him in the same sentence with Jordan, who hears every word. Those words have an effect on him. He stares at the TV and points out a flaw in LeBron's game.


"I study him," he says.


When LeBron goes right, he usually drives; when he goes left, he usually shoots a jumper. It has to do with his mechanics and how he loads the ball for release. "So if I have to guard him," Jordan says, "I'm gonna push him left so nine times out of 10, he's gonna shoot a jump shot. If he goes right, he's going to the hole and I can't stop him. So I ain't letting him go right."


For the rest of the game, when LeBron gets the ball and starts his move, Jordan will call out some variation of "drive" or "shoot." It's not just LeBron. He sees fouls the officials miss, and the replays prove him right. When someone shoots, he knows immediately whether it's going in. He calls out what guys are going to do before they do it, more plugged into the flow of the game than some of the players on the court. He's answering texts, buried in his phone, when the play-by-play guy announces a LeBron jump shot. Without looking up, Jordan says, "Left?"

He should pass that scouting report to the rest of the league.

If Jordan could only evaluate talent the way he thinks he knows LeBron, maybe the Bobcats wouldn't be a damn joke.


True dat.  Jordan apparently still insists on playing against any players the boobcats bring in for tryouts or evaluations.  He needs to give that s*** up and let people who understand how to evaluate make the decisions.  Plus, I have a sneaking suspicion that this whole love-fest will lead to him re-activating himself to make another run.
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StateFan03 wrote: His constant need to pick Kobe over Lebron, and critique Lebron's game is a clear indicator that Lebron is his greatest threat in terms of all time greatness.
Or it's a clear indicator that Lebron is the one most talked about as challenging MJ's stature and MJ hears all the talk.   

I'd take Kobe in his prime over Lebron at this point, simply because of Kobe's killer instinct.
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ChemE96 wrote:
True dat.  Jordan apparently still insists on playing against any players the boobcats bring in for tryouts or evaluations.  He needs to give that s*** up and let people who understand how to evaluate make the decisions.  Plus, I have a sneaking suspicion that this whole love-fest will lead to him re-activating himself to make another run.
I've always thought that he only quit playing to preserve his scoring average as #1.  I think that if Stern said "okay, we'll let you have a separate, "well-past-your-prime" set of statistics, MJ would have already come back, or never left.   
I remember with the Wizards, reading about how he knew exactly how much he needed to score in his last few games to keep his average intact.   

I have no doubt he'd average double figures scoring right now.   His main issue would be if his knees would hold up.
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Re: ESPN - 'Michael Jordan has not left the building' 



EasternNCstyleBBQueWolf wrote:
SidsSouljahBoy wrote: Don't care he played for UNC, Jordan is the GOAT and next to Dirk is my favorite player of all time. He even said Dirk 1 of the only 4 players who could play with his era and be as successful as they are now. Thought it was a great read. Liked this part:

The announcers gush about LeBron, mentioning him in the same sentence with Jordan, who hears every word. Those words have an effect on him. He stares at the TV and points out a flaw in LeBron's game.


"I study him," he says.


When LeBron goes right, he usually drives; when he goes left, he usually shoots a jumper. It has to do with his mechanics and how he loads the ball for release. "So if I have to guard him," Jordan says, "I'm gonna push him left so nine times out of 10, he's gonna shoot a jump shot. If he goes right, he's going to the hole and I can't stop him. So I ain't letting him go right."


For the rest of the game, when LeBron gets the ball and starts his move, Jordan will call out some variation of "drive" or "shoot." It's not just LeBron. He sees fouls the officials miss, and the replays prove him right. When someone shoots, he knows immediately whether it's going in. He calls out what guys are going to do before they do it, more plugged into the flow of the game than some of the players on the court. He's answering texts, buried in his phone, when the play-by-play guy announces a LeBron jump shot. Without looking up, Jordan says, "Left?"




That you would go so far as to suck the sweat out of his jockstrap is not surprising.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 3:37 PM

RE: ESPN - 'Michael Jordan has not left the building' 



srmzeus11 wrote: You claim to be a christian, and yet have no idea that Yahweh and Jesus are not the same..


um, okay. Carry on.
JonnyJackson wrote: I just got to the point where his nickname was Yahweh  that does it for me.  That makes me want to throw up.  Mr. Jordan, you really compare yourself to Jesus Christ?   wow

HA and YOU claim to be a Christian man and yet the UNC Campus Y supports bum punchers and illegal Mexicans and child diddlers and loons probably Communists too.

Read it and weep Mister Man.

http://campus-y.unc.edu/committees

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