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Posted: 2/16/2013 8:06 PM
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BTTT
Bazinga!
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Posted: 2/16/2013 8:35 PM
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Hey lurking uncch fans,
tic tic tic... It is getting closer to the bewitching hour.
The color is still CHEATER BLUE in honor of Davis, Baddour, Thorp, the uncch BOT, Nyang'oro, Ross & unc BOG, and Martin - Who will clean up uncch* Will it be SACS ?- To seem, rather than to be.
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Posted: 2/16/2013 9:08 PM
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 bsme74 wrote: Hey lurking uncch fans,
tic tic tic... It is getting closer to the bewitching hour.
Bazinga!
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Posted: 2/16/2013 9:17 PM
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perhaps a new Sunday article posted this evening around 9:45?
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Posted: 2/16/2013 11:00 PM
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Nothing new on the N&O website as of 11pm. If there's more to come, looks like we'll have to wait for another day - apparently not coming for Sunday. |
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Posted: 2/16/2013 11:27 PM
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BackNine wrote:Nothing new on the N&O website as of 11pm. If there's more to come, looks like we'll have to wait for another day - apparently not coming for Sunday. There are quite a few Sundays between now and April when SACS arrives.... And then quite a few more before SACS hands down their sentence. This story will ebb and flow for the next 6 - 12 months, minimum. Recall, we still have pending the announcement of their new chancellor.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 12:05 AM
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I'm not sure which would be more entertaining whether it's Emmert or it's not. ProfessorWolf wrote:
BackNine wrote:Nothing new on the N&O website as of 11pm. If there's more to come, looks like we'll have to wait for another day - apparently not coming for Sunday.
There are quite a few Sundays between now and April when SACS arrives.... And then quite a few more before SACS hands down their sentence. This story will ebb and flow for the next 6 - 12 months, minimum. Recall, we still have pending the announcement of their new chancellor. |
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Posted: 2/17/2013 7:00 AM
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jimbo83 wrote:
seniorwolf60 wrote:
Treyvon wrote:
jimbo83 wrote:
83grad wrote: I saw on TV tonight that ewe nc was installing condom dispensers on campus. Reportedly they will be installed next to the diploma dispensers
Will the condom dispensers also be free?
No, the condoms are .50 each.....more value than the diplomas. Condoms and diplomas are in the same vending machine. Put your money in and make your selection.
I hope they do a better job checking the condoms for holes. I hope they mandate condoms for holes!! UNC admin is like the cat trying to cover a fresh one in the full litter box....Every stroke of the paw reveals another turd.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 9:57 AM
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leowolf wrote:
jimbo83 wrote:
seniorwolf60 wrote:
Treyvon wrote:
jimbo83 wrote:
83grad wrote: I saw on TV tonight that ewe nc was installing condom dispensers on campus. Reportedly they will be installed next to the diploma dispensers
Will the condom dispensers also be free?
No, the condoms are .50 each.....more value than the diplomas. Condoms and diplomas are in the same vending machine. Put your money in and make your selection.
I hope they do a better job checking the condoms for holes. I hope they mandate condoms for holes!! Hey, I meant holes not Holes! But good point.
Last edited 2/17/2013 9:57 AM by jimbo83
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Posted: 2/17/2013 3:30 PM
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HBO Real Sports. Maybe.  Free Brack.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 4:20 PM
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When the SBI asks to talk to anyone at UNC, the standard answer is : " Nataka kuogea wakili ." translation : I want to talk to my lawyer..swahili
Nasikitika
Last edited 2/17/2013 4:33 PM by pointwolf
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Posted: 2/17/2013 4:22 PM
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The NCAA won't be visiting UNC-CH until after the new chancellor is announced....and boy will Emmert be out for revenge.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 6:14 PM
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PackATL82 wrote: The NCAA won't be visiting UNC-CH until after the new chancellor is announced....and boy will Emmert be out for revenge. Not if Emmert is their chancellor
"I wear NC State gear because I'm going to NC State, you wear UNC gear because you went to Wal-Mart."
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Posted: 2/17/2013 6:19 PM
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I dont see how Emmert could possibly get the job with out U*NC and the NCAA headquarters literally being burned to the ground, but with the deafening silence out of schools like UConn and Penn St over the current state of affairs nothing would surprise me anymore.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 7:53 PM
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if Emmert were to get the job, that would explain a lot.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 7:57 PM
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direwolfpack wrote: I dont see how Emmert could possibly get the job with out U*NC and the NCAA headquarters literally being burned to the ground, but with the deafening silence out of schools like UConn and Penn St over the current state of affairs nothing would surprise me anymore. When UNC is involved, your entire universe of disbelief gets greatly expanded. |
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Posted: 2/17/2013 8:27 PM
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seniorwolf60 wrote:
direwolfpack wrote: I dont see how Emmert could possibly get the job with out U*NC and the NCAA headquarters literally being burned to the ground, but with the deafening silence out of schools like UConn and Penn St over the current state of affairs nothing would surprise me anymore. When UNC is involved, your entire universe of disbelief gets greatly expanded. The preposterous is a normal day at the office.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 9:47 PM
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RaleighBound wrote:
seniorwolf60 wrote:
direwolfpack wrote: I dont see how Emmert could possibly get the job with out U*NC and the NCAA headquarters literally being burned to the ground, but with the deafening silence out of schools like UConn and Penn St over the current state of affairs nothing would surprise me anymore. When UNC is involved, your entire universe of disbelief gets greatly expanded. The preposterous is a normal day at the office. Can any of y'all imagine how bad Kane and the N&O would rip them if Emmert is even interviewed for the job? Tom Ross is just like Pinocchio.
1.He is a puppet.
2.He tells lies.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:13 AM
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Thorp hired as Provost at D3 Washington U in St Louis. Says he will stay at UNC until June to end the scandal. Interesting comment by Stancill, did NCAA officially say they weren't coming back? www.newsobserver.com/2013/02/1...washington.html
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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:22 AM
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N&O had article online that Thorp is gone, then they pulled it.
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We really don't want that. They'll make a nice hire, present a dog and pony show about new "this", corrected "that", blah, blah, blah. The NCAA (if they do anything at all) will give the ewe credit for making hard changes, in the same way that the LOI gave them credit for "self reporting". Thorp needs to stay in place thru penalty phase.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:33 AM
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duckmanjw wrote: Thorp hired as Provost at D3 Washington U in St Louis. Says he will stay at UNC until June to end the scandal.
Interesting comment by Stancill, did NCAA officially say they weren't coming back?
www.newsobserver.com/2013/02/1...washington.html
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At Washington University, he will hold an endowed professorship in two departments – chemistry and medicine.
Wow, that's an honorable move, considering he oversaw the worst cheating scandal in the history of the ACC. It certainly makes him look honorable.
I wonder who is funding this prestigious endowment?
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Right or wrong I'm here to fight. Unless you run away with fright. And if you wonder who I be, it's me it's me, it's Ernest T. Whoo hoo.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:36 AM
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The magic of chemistry. Thorpe's a chemist. His new boss is a chemist as well as the past president of the AAU. His investigative governor was a chemist. Small world.
I like the athletic type.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:37 AM
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lumberpack3 wrote: The magic of chemistry. Thorpe's a chemist. His new boss is a chemist as well as the past president of the AAU. His investigative governor was a chemist. Small world. Really?
"I wear NC State gear because I'm going to NC State, you wear UNC gear because you went to Wal-Mart."
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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:39 AM
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Indeed, Lumber. Small world, indeed. What are the chances of an AAU connection paying off?
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:13 AM
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"As the university’s second in command, he will manage the academic side of the institution and won’t oversee athletics. In the Washington University news release, he said he and his wife, Patti, will cheer on the Bears just as enthusiastically as they supported the Heels in Chapel Hill"Really? 
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/02/18/2688659/tho rp-hired-as-provost-at-washington.html#storylink=c py
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:19 AM
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Ok, so I left a lengthy late night comment on that article that I'm sure will not make some happy, as I'm sure most comments will be a love fest. Oh well.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:28 AM
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dpanther wrote: Ok, so I left a lengthy late night comment on that article that I'm sure will not make some happy, as I'm sure most comments will be a love fest. Oh well. I just read it and liked it. Well said dpanther.
"I wear NC State gear because I'm going to NC State, you wear UNC gear because you went to Wal-Mart."
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:41 AM
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:44 AM
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seniorwolf60 wrote:
direwolfpack wrote: I dont see how Emmert could possibly get the job with out U*NC and the NCAA headquarters literally being burned to the ground, but with the deafening silence out of schools like UConn and Penn St over the current state of affairs nothing would surprise me anymore. When UNC is involved, your entire universe of disbelief gets greatly expanded.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:55 AM
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I've been to WashU STL and done work for them and I'm disappointed they'd hire Thorp. Those guys pride themselves on academics.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 2:07 AM
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This thing keeps getting bigger.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 6:32 AM
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RaleighBound wrote:
JKReading wrote: For the guys that are getting all excited about SACS coming to town and how they aren't going to mess around:
NCAA - The NCAA is going to fry them for this.
Mark Armstrong - He's the only one asking questions. He isn't going to let this die.
Greg Doyel - The national media is on it now. UNC is in big trouble.
Judge Manning - He is not going to let them get away with this.
BOG - The real adults are getting involved now.
Ann Goodnight - She will absolutely get to the bottom of this.
Baker Tilly - They are a professional firm and they will find the dirt.
Jim Martin - His integrity is unquestionable. He will do a thorough investigation.
SBI - Jury still out.
SACS - Jury still out.
It has been an absolute joy watching the CHeats squirm, but they are a powerful bunch. I'm sure I missed a few that could join the list. Feel free to add if you'd like. I'm just saying my optimism has tempered over the last several months with the realization we only have a single journalist fighting for the good guys. Add:
Governor McCrory: he'll get to the bottom of this (not a chance).
The new republicans in town: maybe.
Other UNC System Schools: crickets publicly, but privately(?)
Other Universities who've been "hammered" by the NCAA: crickets publicly, but privately(?) Add: The American Association of Universities (AAU), with their honorable and ethical leadership, is going to CRUSH the Cheats and threaten their elite status.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 6:50 AM
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Returning to the general faculty at State would have been difficult for Oblinger. So he parlays his position as chancellor into a top job at the Kannapolis research center. Same appears to be true for Thorp, except he is moving on to another university. Same outcome, hard for part of the problem to be a part of the solution.
Regardless of whether Thorp is in Chapel Hill or St Louis, the responsibility to handle the SACS fall out was going to be on the new chancellor. If I'm correct, the SACS report from the April review will not be delivered until June. That coincides with SACS meeting to discuss possible sanctions. The new or interim Chancellor will have a lot on the plate in July.
Standard Disclaimer Applies: Just my opinion and there is a 50% chance I'm wrong.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 7:09 AM
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ProfessorWolf wrote: Returning to the general faculty at State would have been difficult for Oblinger. So he parlays his position as chancellor into a top job at the Kannapolis research center. Same appears to be true for Thorp, except he is moving on to another university. Same outcome, hard for part of the problem to be a part of the solution.
Regardless of whether Thorp is in Chapel Hill or St Louis, the responsibility to handle the SACS fall out was going to be on the new chancellor. If I'm correct, the SACS report from the April review will not be delivered until June. That coincides with SACS meeting to discuss possible sanctions. The new or interim Chancellor will have a lot on the plate in July. It's not the "same outcome." You like to compare Chapel Hill's cheating to V.... and now to Oblinger? What are the facts surrounding Oblinger compared to Thorp? A speadsheet would be useful methinks. Maybe we should ask the honorable Martin to data-mine it for us.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 7:20 AM
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duckmanjw wrote: Thorp hired as Provost at D3 Washington U in St Louis. Says he will stay at UNC until June to end the scandal.
Interesting comment by Stancill, did NCAA officially say they weren't coming back?
www.newsobserver.com/2013/02/1...washington.html I don't think they have officially said that and it may have been improperly used in the article. Maybe it's another dig at the NCAA by the N & O to get to work. We can all hope the N & O has the goods and will make the NCAA come back. BEING AN N C STATE FAN BUILDS GREAT CHARACTER
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Posted: 2/18/2013 7:57 AM
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--------------------------------------------- --- JKReading wrote: “Holden Thorp is one of America’s most highly respected leaders in higher education,” Wrighton said in a news release. “He is a great scientist with an excellent track record of achievement and a reputation for his commitment to student success, academic excellence and professional integrity.
I wonder how much vomit the N&O staff will have to clean off the printing press for having to print this in tomorrow's paper. This does make me wonder why he's going to leave town. Seems to me he had a pretty sweet deal lined up for him to hang around. --------------------------------------------- His "Reputation for his commitment to student success, academic excellence, and professional integrity" includes recent statements that he "did not get into the grading practices of his Professors" (when asked if he thought someone should get an "A" on a plagiarized paper"), over 200 bogus classes with bogus grades, and an orchestrated whitewash of an athletic scandal that dwarfs anything we have ever seen. Yep...he's the perfect candidate. |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:09 AM
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RaleighBound wrote:
ProfessorWolf wrote: Returning to the general faculty at State would have been difficult for Oblinger. So he parlays his position as chancellor into a top job at the Kannapolis research center. Same appears to be true for Thorp, except he is moving on to another university. Same outcome, hard for part of the problem to be a part of the solution.
Regardless of whether Thorp is in Chapel Hill or St Louis, the responsibility to handle the SACS fall out was going to be on the new chancellor. If I'm correct, the SACS report from the April review will not be delivered until June. That coincides with SACS meeting to discuss possible sanctions. The new or interim Chancellor will have a lot on the plate in July. It's not the "same outcome." You like to compare Chapel Hill's cheating to V.... and now to Oblinger? What are the facts surrounding Oblinger compared to Thorp? A speadsheet would be useful methinks. Maybe we should ask the honorable Martin to data-mine it for us. Missed the point entirely... when you've been at the top and have been taken down by a scandal, it is hard to return to the faculty and have the respect of your new found peers. I see our former Provost Larry Nielsen regularly. First thing that runs through my mind is "idiot." Granted the Easley scandal is no where near the level as the UNC scandal, but it was a serious lapse in judgement nonetheless. It is a stain on the university and embarrassment our leaders were so stupid to openly try to purchase political favoritism. And so, until the day he, or I retire, when I pass Larry, I'll think to myself... "idiot." Now, that won't happen for Oblinger. Why? He has moved to an off-campus location and is out of sight, out of mind. Thorp will be out of sight, out of mind.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:12 AM
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Caedmon wrote: And to think - this is the school that didn't want to let Virginia Tech in the conference because they thought their academics were not up to ACC standards. What snobs. potcallingthekettleblackloller |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:27 AM
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Thorpe is a POS who lied and cheated his way through this scandal. He does not deserve another job in academia. He deserves a trail by jury for all the money he and his organization have stolen from the NC taxpayers in an effort to hide the truth.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:32 AM
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TheInnerLight wrote: Thorpe is a POS who lied and cheated his way through this scandal. He does not deserve another job in academia. He deserves a trail by jury for all the money he and his organization have stolen from the NC taxpayers in an effort to hide the truth. +1 the bright side is NC taxpayers don't have to pay for that lying weasel to take some job in their Chem dept @ his current salary - which was the initial plan.
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