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Posted: 2/12/2013 2:45 PM
Here are sixteen nominees for BOG
Update February 26: Here are 16 names being sent to the NC House as potential nominees for the UNC BOG. Eight of these will be nominated and voted on by the full House, probably within a week or two. I don't yet have any specific info on these, but I'm working on it. If you know about any of these, especially where they got their degrees, feel free to post it... just be accurate, please. Fred Mills, Sr. James Edward (Jim) Nance George A. Sywassink, Jr. Roger Aiken Rodney Hood R. Doyle Parrish James Marvin Barnes (Jimmy) James M. Deal, Jr. Walter C. Davenport Yvonne Thomas Knott, III Henry Williams Hinton William Graham Champion Mitchell Irvin Roseman Dr. Joan Perry Muriel W. Sheubrooks Laura Wiley
****************** Most of us have been upset and complaining for years about so many members of the UNC BOG being graduates of or in some way affiliated with UNC at Chapel Hill. At present, I believe it's 23 vs only 5 affiliated with NC State. Well now is the time to try to do something about it. Two committees have been established in the NC legislature, one in the House and one in the Senate, to make nominations for new members to be appointed this year. I'm not sure how many there are, but it will be several. These committees, or at lease the Senate committee, will be meeting this week to adopt a resolution setting forth the process and timeline for nominations and elections. The links below will take you to the respective committee pages where members names are listed. The chairman of the Senate committee is Senator Tom Apodaca from Hendersonville. Chairman of the House committee is Tim Moore of Kings Mountain. Please contact as many of these members as you can to express your concern with the gross imbalance in membership on the BOG and your desire for them to begin immediately correcting this long-standing problem. Even if every member appointed this year were a graduate of NC State, it would not come close to erasing the imbalance, but it would be a good start. The important thing is to let them know that a lot of voters care about this situation and expect them to correct it. Phone calls work best, but use emails if you don't have time to call. SenateHouse
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Posted: 2/12/2013 2:52 PM
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As a followup to this note, don't focus on NC State...focus instead on all of the UNC system schools being represented. Right now it's all Chapel Hill and hardly anyone else.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 3:03 PM
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PackMan97 wrote: As a followup to this note, don't focus on NC State...focus instead on all of the UNC system schools being represented. Right now it's all Chapel Hill and hardly anyone else. This. Don't waste this opportunity! A fair and balanced BOG would do more long term damage to the Cheaters than anything the NCAA could do (even if they wanted to). And by long term damage I mean make them operate on a level playing field.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 3:22 PM
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PackMan97 wrote: As a followup to this note, don't focus on NC State...focus instead on all of the UNC system schools being represented. Right now it's all Chapel Hill and hardly anyone else. Great suggestion. There currently are 33 members of the BOG. My view of a good distribution would be six to eight each affiliated with UNC-CH, six to eight affiliated with NC State, and six to eight affiliated with one of the other UNC schools. The rest should be well qualified people from business, industry and education who have no affiliation with the UNC system.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 3:30 PM
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I suggest that the underlying message of concern be the use of academic manipulation for the designed purpose of maintaining athletic eligibility in any state supported university. With the recent disclosures at UNC that show no evidence of being properly addressed, a genuine concern exists regarding the makeup of any oversight board with predominant ties to that university. The time has come to quit letting foxes guard the hen house.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 3:47 PM
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biggoodwolf wrote:
PackMan97 wrote: As a followup to this note, don't focus on NC State...focus instead on all of the UNC system schools being represented. Right now it's all Chapel Hill and hardly anyone else. Great suggestion.
There currently are 33 members of the BOG. My view of a good distribution would be six to eight each affiliated with UNC-CH, six to eight affiliated with NC State, and six to eight affiliated with one of the other UNC schools. The rest should be well qualified people from business, industry and education who have no affiliation with the UNC system. Good luck with that.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 4:06 PM
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Awesome that it's pinned. Good times.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 4:18 PM
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sent an email to each member of the Senate. did not mention where I received my degree. pointed out the gross misrepresentation of the member schools and how quiet the BOG has been on the academic fraud.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 4:26 PM
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Could someone who has them handy post the stats on college attended numbers for each university?
Also it looks like Senate link goes to House.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 4:37 PM
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well in that case i emailed the house then
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Posted: 2/12/2013 5:12 PM
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eccdogg wrote: Could someone who has them handy post the stats on college attended numbers for each university?
Also it looks like Senate link goes to House. Correction made. Thanks! Here they are for quick access. SenateHouse
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Posted: 2/12/2013 5:30 PM
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biggoodwolf wrote:
eccdogg wrote: Could someone who has them handy post the stats on college attended numbers for each university?
Also it looks like Senate link goes to House. Correction made. Thanks!
Here they are for quick access.
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House That senate committee looks favorable to listening. I don't see any UNC homers on there. Walters is a State grad. If I still lived in North Carolina I sure would get in Apodaca's ear. I can't see anyone on this committee that would not relate to the principle we are trying to uphold.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 5:32 PM
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I just sent an email to the Chairman of the Committee in the House and Senate and "cc'd" all the members of the committee. I don't know that that's the way to do it but that was the quickest way for me to be able to reach all the members with my concerns. I hope everyone that is a member of Pack Pride will at least email the Committee Chairman. It could make a difference if they feel it may affect their re-election in the future.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 5:32 PM
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eccdogg wrote: Could someone who has them handy post the stats on college attended numbers for each university? It's a little difficult to quantify because several have multiple degrees from different universities. However, my cursory analysis shows affiliates as follows: 20 UNC-CH, 6 NCSU, 8 Other UNC schools and 13 not affiliated with any UNC school. About 14 of these have affiliations with multiple schools, both within the UNC system and outside. I think a reasonable objective would be to have an equal number affiliated with NCSU and UNC-CH... and a similar number affiliated with other schools in the UNC system.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 6:05 PM
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Perhaps it would be helpful to suggest some suitable candidates. Anybody got some names?
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Who the heck is Griffin Dunne?
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Posted: 2/12/2013 6:30 PM
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Treyvon
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Posted: 2/12/2013 6:34 PM
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5 of the nine members on the House committee are hole graduates including the chairman.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 6:46 PM
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Here is my email to all members of the Senate and House committees. Dear UNC Board of Governors Select Committee Members, As a graduate of the UNC system back in 1984, I’ve taken great pride in my degree and the work I put into receiving it. However, over the past two years the ongoing scandal going on at UNC-CH has been a major blight on our system and I feel has tarnished my degree in the process. Without boring you with the gory details, this situation at UNC-CH is both an academic and an athletic scandal that has been going on since the early 1990s, probably earlier. My question is, where has the UNC BOG been during all of this? Unfortunately they have remained silent minus an occasional statement to “review” UNC-CH’s self-appointed and self-serving reviews. Where is the leadership for the UNC BOG? Why have they not demanded a full independent investigation to get to the bottom of this situation, resolve it and then move on? The reason I believe is the UNC BOG is over-represented by folks that have a vested interest in protecting UNC-CH in not getting the truth out into the open. Unfortunately, this sandbagging attitude has allowed this situation to drag on for over two years with no end in sight. This lack of willingness to ask the hard questions drags down the entire UNC system. I respectfully request that major consideration be given to changing the makeup of the UNC BOG’s constituents. I believe that both UNC-CH and NCSU should have equal representation as the two major universities in the UNC system. The remaining schools in the system should have a minimum of 1 representative in the BOG. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely,
NCSU84
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Posted: 2/12/2013 7:18 PM
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Let's get this done people. Seriously - this is a major opportunity - they have to know that it matters to us that the BOG ceases to be the corrupt institution that it currently is. Contact these people - please be respectful! biggoodwolf wrote: Most of us have been upset and complaining for years about so many members of the UNC BOG being graduates of or in some way affiliated with UNC at Chapel Hill. At present, I believe it's 23 vs only 5 affiliated with NC State. Well now is the time to try to do something about it.
Two committees have been established in the NC legislature, one in the House and one in the Senate, to make nominations for new members to be appointed this year. I'm not sure how many there are, but it will be several. These committees, or at lease the Senate committee, will be meeting this week to adopt a resolution setting forth the process and timeline for nominations and elections.
The links below will take you to the respective committee pages where members names are listed. The chairman of the Senate committee is Senator Tom Apodaca from Hendersonville. Chairman of the House committee is Tim Moore of Kings Mountain.
Please contact as many of these members as you can to express your concern with the gross imbalance in membership on the BOG and your desire for them to begin immediately correcting this long-standing problem. Even if every member appointed this year were a graduate of NC State, it would not come close to erasing the imbalance, but it would be a good start. The important thing is to let them know that a lot of voters care about this situation and expect them to correct it.
Phone calls work best, but use emails if you don't have time to call.
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We have staked the future of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments." - James Madison
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Posted: 2/12/2013 8:11 PM
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ExPatPacker wrote: Perhaps it would be helpful to suggest some suitable candidates. Anybody got some names? Dr. Jerry Punch (previously served on NCSU BOT) Dr. Jim Owens, retired CEO of Caterpillar Bob Luddy, CEO of Captive-Aire & CEO of Thales Academies Lonnie Poole, CEO of Waste Industries manalishi There's lots of other well qualified folk, just need some time to think about it.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 9:16 PM
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I just sent the following letter to the chairman and all members of the House Select committee. I sent an identical one to the chairman and members of the Senate Select committee: Dear Representative Moore: It is my understanding that you have been appointed chairman of the House Select Committee on UNC Board of Governors Nominating. I have two concerns that I would like to share with you and committee members, and I hope that all of you will give them due consideration as you select a new batch of nominees for the University of North Carolina Board of Governors. My first concern is the highly disproportionate number of members who are graduates of or affiliated with UNC at Chapel Hill, compared to the relatively small number who are graduates of or affiliated with NC State and the other university branches. If my count is correct, at least twenty current members affiliate with UNC Chapel Hill, while only six have any affiliation with NC State and eight with all the other branches combined. This problem has existed as long as I can remember and it's past time to fix it. Some might argue that Board members are unbiased and always vote for what they think is best for the university system. That would be nice if it were true, but it isn't. These people are human and rightly have strong allegiances to their respective universities. But there is no way their biases can be set aside. Whether or not it is intentional, when push comes to shove, their favorite university usually will get the benefit of any doubt. My second concern deals with the political orientation of Board members. For what seems like forever, Democrats controlled almost every aspect of this state's government, and that includes setting policies and appropriating funds for the university system. This has resulted in a left-leaning bias that I believe has been detrimental to the university system. Now that Republicans control the legislature and hold the governorship, it's time for this to change, too. Let me be clear, I am not advocating a switch a Republican-dominated BOG. However, the time has come for a more balanced approach when it comes to selecting Board members. Please keep these concerns in mind as you go through the process of selecting nominees to this year's Board, as well as in the future. Sincerely,
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Posted: 2/12/2013 9:36 PM
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We may be tilting at windmills- but if so, it wouldn't hurt to have some others share our folly. If you can, please link this thread to forums used by NC Central, Charlotte, and all the other members of the UNC system. Those folks will know what to say to represent their schools, and who are the political allies of their schools.
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Posted: 2/12/2013 9:42 PM
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Emailed both chairs. I encourage other Pack fans to do the same.
In doing so, try not to sound like too much of an NC State homer. I think folks should stress two points: (1) the chairs have a great responsibility to ensure that BOG representation is proportional among ALL member institutions of the UNC system (not just state and unc) and (2) gross misrepresentation of a single member institution can lead to biases that undermine the integrity of the BOG, and therefore, their ability to govern the UNC system. Feel free to site the BOG inaction on the decade-long fraud and misuse of tax dollars at UNC as a recent example to drive the second point home (again, don't sound too homerish).
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Posted: 2/12/2013 11:22 PM
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NeverQuitPacker wrote:
ExPatPacker wrote: Perhaps it would be helpful to suggest some suitable candidates. Anybody got some names? Dr. Jerry Punch (previously served on NCSU BOT) Dr. Jim Owens, retired CEO of Caterpillar Bob Luddy, CEO of Captive-Aire & CEO of Thales Academies Lonnie Poole, CEO of Waste Industries manalishi
There's lots of other well qualified folk, just need some time to think about it. Not every BOG member need be a North Carolina native. Other States do this differently, but a non-UNC-CH member from Atlanta, New York, or Washington would be a help.
I like the athletic type.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 12:36 AM
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Sent !
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Posted: 2/13/2013 8:36 AM
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manganese wrote: Treyvon
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Posted: 2/13/2013 8:42 AM
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lumberpack3 wrote: NeverQuitPacker wrote: ExPatPacker wrote: Perhaps it would be helpful to suggest some suitable candidates. Anybody got some names? Dr. Jerry Punch (previously served on NCSU BOT) Dr. Jim Owens, retired CEO of Caterpillar Bob Luddy, CEO of Captive-Aire & CEO of Thales Academies Lonnie Poole, CEO of Waste Industries manalishi
There's lots of other well qualified folk, just need some time to think about it. Not every BOG member need be a North Carolina native. Other States do this differently, but a non-UNC-CH member from Atlanta, New York, or Washington would be a help. Okay, General Ray Odierno, Army Chief of Staff. Who you got?
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Posted: 2/13/2013 8:45 AM
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ExPatPacker wrote: Perhaps it would be helpful to suggest some suitable candidates. Anybody got some names? Wufwuf and manalishi
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Posted: 2/13/2013 10:03 AM
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lol @ this being pinned.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 12:20 PM
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pootopolis wrote: lol @ this being pinned. ??????????
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Posted: 2/13/2013 12:32 PM
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I can serve but I must say I don't spend 90% of my life worrying about UNC-CH problems.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 8:03 PM
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bttt
We have staked the future of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments." - James Madison
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Posted: 2/13/2013 8:58 PM
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BTTT. I sent an individual email to each of the members on each committee.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 9:34 PM
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Done. Sent message to each member of each committee and cc'd my district's Rep and Senator out of protocol.
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Posted: 2/14/2013 9:13 AM
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^ Good approach.
We have staked the future of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments." - James Madison
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Posted: 2/14/2013 2:24 PM
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biggoodwolf wrote:
PackMan97 wrote: As a followup to this note, don't focus on NC State...focus instead on all of the UNC system schools being represented. Right now it's all Chapel Hill and hardly anyone else. Great suggestion.
There currently are 33 members of the BOG. My view of a good distribution would be six to eight each affiliated with UNC-CH, six to eight affiliated with NC State, and six to eight affiliated with one of the other UNC schools. The rest should be well qualified people from business, industry and education who have no affiliation with the UNC system. The 1971 Higher Education Reorganization Act specified equitable distribution of the first BOG by requiring that it be made up of the following membership: 3 from East Carolina Board of Trustees 2 from Appalacian State BOT 2 NCA&T BOT 2 NC Central BOT 2 Western Carolina BOT 1 Elizabeth City State BOT 1 Fayetteville State BOT 1 UNC School of the Arts BOT 1 Pembroke State BOT 1 Winston Salem State BOT 16 from the Consolidated BOT representing NCSU, UNC-CH and UNC-G Since 1971 the distribution has become heavily biased towards UNC-CH at least partly due to GA bias. The GA should use the original distrubution as a guide in getting this board back into balance. Now is a good time for them to start working on it.
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Posted: 2/14/2013 3:18 PM
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eccdogg wrote: Could someone who has them handy post the stats on college attended numbers for each university?
Also it looks like Senate link goes to House. I did this in a rush so forgive the sloppiness and shorthand: | | Undergraduate | Masters | PhD | JD | DDS | | Peter Hans | UNC-CH | | | | | | H Frank Grainger | WCCC | | | | | | Ann Goodnight | State | | | | | | W. Louis Bissette, Jr. | WFU | UVA | | UNC-CH | | | John Blackburn | Kings College | Va Tech | | | | | Peaches Gunter Blank | State | | | | | | Laura Buffaloe | Elizabeth City State | NCCU | Va Tech | | | | Cameron Carswell | App | | | | | | Walter Davenport | Morehouse | | | | | | James Deal, Jr. | App | | | UNC-CH | | | Phillip Dixon | ECU | | | UNC-CH | | | Fred Eshelman | UNC-CH | | | | | | John Fennebresque | UNC | | | Vandy | | | Dudley Flood | NCCU | ECU | Duke | | | | Paul Fulton | UNC-CH | | | | | | Hannah Gage | UNC-CH | | | | | | Thomas Harrelson | UNC-CH | | | | | | James Holhouser, Jr. | Davidson | | | UNC-CH | | | G Leroy Lail | UNC-CH | | | | | | Mary Ann Maxwell | UNC-CH | | | | | | Franklin McCain | A&T | State | | | | | W Edwin McMahan | UNC-CH | | | | | | Charles H Mercer, Jr | UNC-CH | | | | | | Fred Mills | UNC-CH | | | | | | Burley Mitchell, Jr. | State | | State | UNC-CH | | | Hari Nath | Missouri | | | | | | David Powers | State | Campgell | | | | | Irvin Roseman | UNC-CH | | | | UNC-CH | | Dick Taylor | UNC-CH | | | | | | Raiford Trask III | UNC-CH | | | | | | Phillip Walker | WCU | | | | | | J Bradley Wilson | App | | Duke | WFU | | | David Young | UNC-CH | | | | |
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Posted: 2/14/2013 6:09 PM
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Senate Bill 10 passed the State Senate Thursday. It terminates the appointments to several boards and commissions (Environmental Managmenet Commission, Coastal Resources Commission, Utilities Commission) effective upon becoming law. The Bill now goes to the House. Why not include the UNC Board of Governors in this legislation. Let's get the problem fixed now. Here's the bill text that passed the Senate. http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/...e/PDF/S10v3.pdf
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Posted: 2/14/2013 6:15 PM
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what about post it notes on cars?
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Posted: 2/14/2013 10:31 PM
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An ad on a Sprint Cup car or a whole bus billboard
UNC-CHeaters in academics, UNC-CHeaters in athletics. The Carolina Way for generations: To Seem Rather Than To Be. CHEATER HILL: INTENTIONAL INSTITUTIONAL CORRUPTION
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