wufster wrote:

wrcwolf wrote: The student Applewhite was banging was an athletic trainer for the football team, so I would say that the situations are identical with the women's track coach. If not identical, close enough for UT to have to squirm and either off Applewhite or pay off the track coach a considerable amount of money. They have plenty of money.

Wonder how safe Dodds is with this incident?

m.usatoday.com/article/news/1886861

According to a statement released Friday by Texas, Applewhite engaged in "inappropriate, consensual behavior with an adult student" during the Longhorns' trip to the Fiesta Bowl after the 2008 regular season. The student was working with the football team as an athletic trainer, according to the person with knowledge of the situation.

In a letter of reprimand dated Feb. 5, 2009, Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds wrote that Applewhite's salary would be frozen until Jan. 1, 2010. Applewhite was making $260,500, including base salary and other guaranteed university compensation, as the Longhorns' running backs coach. In 2012, as co-offensive coordinator, he made $575,000 in guaranteed compensation.

Given this, they better settle with the ladies coach and fire Applewhite immediately.  Either they have to spin it that football rules in Texas, or that gender/race/sexuality played a part in who gets fired.  Strange they would protect an assistant coach and throw a 6 time national championship coach under the bus.  Have to believe that Dodds and Mack Brown are on shaky ground.

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Apparently another reason the track coach got fired was related to NCAA violations due to "benefit$" the athlete received from said track coach.

PackFansXL wrote: Apparently another reason the track coach got fired was related to NCAA violations due to "benefit$" the athlete received from said track coach.

Boom, case settled.  Just decide what to do with Applewhite.

michael924 wrote: Kind of like Brady leaving his pregnant GF for a model....

SWWolf wrote:

Redbug22 wrote: Was she 18?

Did she consent?

If the answers are yes....I know the media cares....and the powers that be care....but I don't. Some college girl ****** a coach.

He was married with a wife about to give birth. You seem to believe that's okay. Move to France, where they seem to go for that kind of thing.

He split with her a few months before the baby was announced.  General scuttlebutt is that she wanted and got some breakup sex and pulled the goalie without telling him. 

In any case, please elaborate how hooking up with a co-ed for a one night stand is anything like leaving one relationship and entering another.

Redbug22 wrote: Was she 18?

Did she consent?

If the answers are yes....I know the media cares....and the powers that be care....but I don't. Some college girl ****** a coach.

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If both are 18 and unmarried, then I really don't see what the problem is.

Plus, we need pics.  Soon...

Edit: I see Applewhite is married.  Might bring up some morality clauses.  But this happened 4 years ago and was already handled internally.

This wording "adult" student IS strange.  There is never any mention of this "students" gender at all. Normally in these sort of instances it would say female student or co-ed et.al. but this careful wording is RATHER strange. This coupled with the timing..of only being revealed publically in light of the Kearney case...seems to point to the the strong possibility that it was a MALE and that Applewhite got his punishment in a hush-hush manner to avoid personal/family and maybe school embarrassment if it was found out publically that he had a relationship with another male...juss sayin. Something however is RATHER odd about this whole thing.

PackFansXL wrote:

wufster wrote:

wrcwolf wrote: The student Applewhite was banging was an athletic trainer for the football team, so I would say that the situations are identical with the women's track coach. If not identical, close enough for UT to have to squirm and either off Applewhite or pay off the track coach a considerable amount of money. They have plenty of money.

Wonder how safe Dodds is with this incident?

m.usatoday.com/article/news/1886861

According to a statement released Friday by Texas, Applewhite engaged in "inappropriate, consensual behavior with an adult student" during the Longhorns' trip to the Fiesta Bowl after the 2008 regular season. The student was working with the football team as an athletic trainer, according to the person with knowledge of the situation.

In a letter of reprimand dated Feb. 5, 2009, Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds wrote that Applewhite's salary would be frozen until Jan. 1, 2010. Applewhite was making $260,500, including base salary and other guaranteed university compensation, as the Longhorns' running backs coach. In 2012, as co-offensive coordinator, he made $575,000 in guaranteed compensation.

Given this, they better settle with the ladies coach and fire Applewhite immediately.  Either they have to spin it that football rules in Texas, or that gender/race/sexuality played a part in who gets fired.  Strange they would protect an assistant coach and throw a 6 time national championship coach under the bus.  Have to believe that Dodds and Mack Brown are on shaky ground.

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If you noticed the policy, it didn't exclude staff members from consensual relationships with students.  It said that the relationships had to be disclosed.  Word is that Applewhite did disclose the relationship within a few days of the hook-up.  The track coach never disclosed the relationship.  I think she did admit to it after it was disclosed to university officials by the former athlete.  This is what Dodds will point to as the most important difference between the two situations.  In light of the policy, it does appear to be a significant difference.

Packtex wrote:

PackFansXL wrote:

wufster wrote:

wrcwolf wrote: The student Applewhite was banging was an athletic trainer for the football team, so I would say that the situations are identical with the women's track coach. If not identical, close enough for UT to have to squirm and either off Applewhite or pay off the track coach a considerable amount of money. They have plenty of money.

Wonder how safe Dodds is with this incident?

m.usatoday.com/article/news/1886861

According to a statement released Friday by Texas, Applewhite engaged in "inappropriate, consensual behavior with an adult student" during the Longhorns' trip to the Fiesta Bowl after the 2008 regular season. The student was working with the football team as an athletic trainer, according to the person with knowledge of the situation.

In a letter of reprimand dated Feb. 5, 2009, Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds wrote that Applewhite's salary would be frozen until Jan. 1, 2010. Applewhite was making $260,500, including base salary and other guaranteed university compensation, as the Longhorns' running backs coach. In 2012, as co-offensive coordinator, he made $575,000 in guaranteed compensation.

Given this, they better settle with the ladies coach and fire Applewhite immediately.  Either they have to spin it that football rules in Texas, or that gender/race/sexuality played a part in who gets fired.  Strange they would protect an assistant coach and throw a 6 time national championship coach under the bus.  Have to believe that Dodds and Mack Brown are on shaky ground.

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If you noticed the policy, it didn't exclude staff members from consensual relationships with students.  It said that the relationships had to be disclosed.  Word is that Applewhite did disclose the relationship within a few days of the hook-up.  The track coach never disclosed the relationship.  I think she did admit to it after it was disclosed to university officials by the former athlete.  This is what Dodds will point to as the most important difference between the two situations.  In light of the policy, it does appear to be a significant difference.

I tried to make this point earlier, but....

The fact that this person worked as a trainer on the football team is a larger issue than being a student.  This was not some random person from the campus.  It was a subordinate member of the staff.  That is almost certainly a violation of their personnel policy.  

Same deal with the track coach.  These types of relationships are inappropriate.

Kearney files discrimination complaints. How far does Texas let this go? Basically, how much are they willing to pay her? $2 million make it go away?

www.statesman.com/news/sports/...-complai/nWtQn/

Derek Howard, who represents Kearney, alleges that his client has been the victim of a double standard at the university. He claims he has knowledge of “in excess of 10” other instances of inappropriate relationships at Texas and said some of them are ongoing and others reach back a decade.

“I think the university turns a blind eye to these inappropriate relationships,” Howard told the Statesman. He offered no evidence of such relationships or details about the behaviors, and he declined to say whether they involved athletic department members.

In a statement released Saturday, Patti Ohlendorf, UT’s vice president for legal affairs, said, “The University reviews allegations and reports of unprofessional relationships on a case-by-case basis and did so after the (Kearney) relationship was reported to the Athletics administration last fall.”

Howard said he met once with attorneys for Texas and the UT System for about an hour in early February, and he said he has not specifically tried to reach a financial settlement with Texas. But he did say he has hired an economist to calculate the damages and told him to be available to testify at a trial. Kearney was set to receive a raise and a contract extension when she was first put on administrative leave.

Asked what Kearney might be seeking, Howard said, “Our damages are very substantial.”

Howard said he has in general terms “informed UT that we have information about these relationships, and we’ve asked them to investigate. Have they? We don’t know.”

Howard said the EEOC and the Texas Workforce Commission are expected to investigate Kearney’s complaint during the next 180 days. After that, Howard said he will file litigation.

the print edition of this week's Sports Illustrated (page 15-16) has a story asking if Texas has a double standard

He just ruined a great southern name. Love the name, Major.

Pictures?

I'm really uncomfortable with this board discussing rumors and coaches private relationships.

hunwolf wrote: I'm really uncomfortable with this board discussing rumors and coaches private relationships.

I see what you did there. LOL

Wrong on many levels; unless you approve of sexual harassment claims in your corporation.

ncpack54 wrote: Kudos to Applewhite for still being able to pull college tail. This is a total non-issue. He's a football coach.

Little known fact about Major......his dad was college roommates with Jimmy Buffett.