Texas co-offensive coordinator Major Applewhite has admitted to a past inappropriate relationship with a student.

While Dodds and Applewhite both said in their statements that the matter had been dealt with, Texas has called a special meeting of the board of regents for Sunday at 1:45 p.m. ET.

The agenda for the Sunday meeting states there will be a personnel matters discussion, as well as a "discussion regarding legal issues concerning individual athletic personnel" and a "discussion regarding legal issues related to inappropriate relations between employees and students."

"We expect our coaches to adhere to the highest standards of conduct and lead by example," the regents' statement said. "However, until such time as the Board can fully understand the background surrounding this event and its moral and legal implications, we will have no further public comment."

Was she 18?

Did she consent?

If the answers are yes....I know the media cares....and the powers that be care....but I don't. Some college girl ****** a coach.

we need a pic, stat!

Kudos to Applewhite for still being able to pull college tail. This is a total non-issue. He's a football coach.

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Kudos to Applewhite for still being able to pull college tail. This is a total non-issue. He's a football coach.

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Agreed. He's a young guy. If he is single I don't see an issue

Agree on giving kudos to Applewhite on getting some young tail. The problem for UT and Applewhite is below. Either he gets dumped or the ex-woman's track coach is going to get paid very handsomely.

www.cnn.com/2013/01/08/us/texa...igns/index.html

(CNN) -- The University of Texas women's track coach who resigned under fire after the disclosure of an affair with a female student a decade ago doesn't understand why she was targeted for punishment and questions whether she's being treated fairly.

"Is it because I have a disability? Is it because I'm black? Is it because I'm female? Is it because I'm successful? Is it now because of my sexual preference?" Coach Bev Kearney asked on CNN's "Starting Point" Tuesday. "I had to finally come to embrace not knowing why, and I had to embrace it because the more you try to figure out why, the harder it is to forgive."

A head coach at Texas since 1993, Kearney is held in great esteem in the track world. She led the Longhorns to six national titles and was inducted into the U.S. Track & Field and Cross Country Coaches Association Hall of Fame in 2007.

She is widely admired for her gritty resolve to walk again after she was partially paralyzed in an auto accident.

But things turned sour for Kearney last year when the university learned of an affair in 2002 with a female student. The revelation came at just about the same time Kearney was discussing a pay raise and a contract extension.

^ agreed WRC, could not have come at a worse time for Texas. I think Texas is better off settling with the track coach, a trial could get very ugly.

LOL............ UNC TE coach Walt Bell has been on a tear lately over at He's Not Here. I wonder when the UNC BOT are going to meet on the matter and discuss the high standards that UNC Coaches are held too.

Had he known that sort of thing was frowned upon........

Unless I'm missing something, there is a significant difference between the two incidents.

Applewhite had a relationship with a student, not a member of the team he was coaching.

The ladies' track coach had a relationship with one of the ladies on her own team. 

At most places, the second gets you fired at your job, the first does not.

Depends on the wording of UT's policy. From the CNN article, it seems as if it's a cut and dry policy. No relations with a student. Do you want to let a judge decide that for you?

So it's ok for a Prof to have sex with a student, but not a football coach?

If the student in question was affliated with the football program I can see where this would be a problem...random non-affliated student then I don't know why it would be considered inappropriate unless there was some specific contract clause prohibiting it (e.g., morality clause).

DaHarpoon wrote: If the student in question was affliated with the football program I can see where this would be a problem...random non-affliated student then I don't know why it would be considered inappropriate unless there was some specific contract clause prohibiting it (e.g., morality clause).

from link
it appears it is university policy, since it happened at a bowl game, I am guessing it was not someone unfamiliar to the football program

In 2001, Texas implemented a rule that mandated system employees, faculty or anyone in a supervisory position report any consensual relationship with a student.

"In the event that a consensual relationship exists or begins to develop, the individual in the supervisory, teaching or advisory position shall immediately notify his or her immediate supervisor of the relationship and cooperate with that supervisor in making the arrangements necessary to resolve the conflict of interest," reads Texas' handbook of operating procedures.

Redbug22 wrote: Was she 18?

Did she consent?

If the answers are yes....I know the media cares....and the powers that be care....but I don't. Some college girl ****** a coach.

He was married with a wife about to give birth. You seem to believe that's okay. Move to France, where they seem to go for that kind of thing.

Kind of like Brady leaving his pregnant GF for a model....

SWWolf wrote:

Redbug22 wrote: Was she 18?

Did she consent?

If the answers are yes....I know the media cares....and the powers that be care....but I don't. Some college girl ****** a coach.

He was married with a wife about to give birth. You seem to believe that's okay. Move to France, where they seem to go for that kind of thing.

Says it was with a MAN .....former mens gymnast coach!!

At least it did in Wikipedia.???

Applewhite admitted he was disciplined by the University of Texas for "having an inappropriate relationship with a student at the 2009 Fiesta Bowl." The student was a former mens gymnastics team Captain, Curry Van ****.[13]

Damn...

PrimalScream wrote: LOL............ UNC TE coach Walt Bell has been on a tear lately over at He's Not Here. I wonder when the UNC BOT are going to meet on the matter and discuss the high standards that UNC Coaches are held too.

Wonder if Dan Kane knows this, too?   


If not, perhaps he should...

wufster wrote: Unless I'm missing something, there is a significant difference between the two incidents.

Applewhite had a relationship with a student, not a member of the team he was coaching.

The ladies' track coach had a relationship with one of the ladies on her own team. 

At most places, the second gets you fired at your job, the first does not.

Didn't seem to be a big deal for Anson Dorrance

http://fairdebtlawyer.blogspot.com/2007/04/4th-cir -short-note-bend-over-and-take.html

cape2 wrote: At least it did in Wikipedia.???

Applewhite admitted he was disciplined by the University of Texas for "having an inappropriate relationship with a student at the 2009 Fiesta Bowl." The student was a former mens gymnastics team Captain, Curry Van ****.[13]

"Not that there's anything wrong with that..."

This is not Texas' only problem. I see where backup QB Conner Brewer was arrested.

cape2 wrote: At least it did in Wikipedia.???

Applewhite admitted he was disciplined by the University of Texas for "having an inappropriate relationship with a student at the 2009 Fiesta Bowl." The student was a former mens gymnastics team Captain, Curry Van ****.[13]

I bet he liked playing "let's ride the pommel horse".

The student Applewhite was banging was an athletic trainer for the football team, so I would say that the situations are identical with the women's track coach. If not identical, close enough for UT to have to squirm and either off Applewhite or pay off the track coach a considerable amount of money. They have plenty of money.

Wonder how safe Dodds is with this incident?

m.usatoday.com/article/news/1886861

According to a statement released Friday by Texas, Applewhite engaged in "inappropriate, consensual behavior with an adult student" during the Longhorns' trip to the Fiesta Bowl after the 2008 regular season. The student was working with the football team as an athletic trainer, according to the person with knowledge of the situation.

In a letter of reprimand dated Feb. 5, 2009, Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds wrote that Applewhite's salary would be frozen until Jan. 1, 2010. Applewhite was making $260,500, including base salary and other guaranteed university compensation, as the Longhorns' running backs coach. In 2012, as co-offensive coordinator, he made $575,000 in guaranteed compensation.

wrcwolf wrote: The student Applewhite was banging was an athletic trainer for the football team, so I would say that the situations are identical with the women's track coach. If not identical, close enough for UT to have to squirm and either off Applewhite or pay off the track coach a considerable amount of money. They have plenty of money.

Wonder how safe Dodds is with this incident?

m.usatoday.com/article/news/1886861

According to a statement released Friday by Texas, Applewhite engaged in "inappropriate, consensual behavior with an adult student" during the Longhorns' trip to the Fiesta Bowl after the 2008 regular season. The student was working with the football team as an athletic trainer, according to the person with knowledge of the situation.

In a letter of reprimand dated Feb. 5, 2009, Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds wrote that Applewhite's salary would be frozen until Jan. 1, 2010. Applewhite was making $260,500, including base salary and other guaranteed university compensation, as the Longhorns' running backs coach. In 2012, as co-offensive coordinator, he made $575,000 in guaranteed compensation.

Given this, they better settle with the ladies coach and fire Applewhite immediately.  Either they have to spin it that football rules in Texas, or that gender/race/sexuality played a part in who gets fired.  Strange they would protect an assistant coach and throw a 6 time national championship coach under the bus.  Have to believe that Dodds and Mack Brown are on shaky ground.

NeverQuitPacker wrote:

wufster wrote: Unless I'm missing something, there is a significant difference between the two incidents.

Applewhite had a relationship with a student, not a member of the team he was coaching.

The ladies' track coach had a relationship with one of the ladies on her own team. 

At most places, the second gets you fired at your job, the first does not.

Didn't seem to be a big deal for Anson Dorrance

http://fairdebtlawyer.blogspot.com/2007/04/4th-cir -short-note-bend-over-and-take.html

Man that article totally supports UNC's apparent attitude towards rape on campus. What a cesspool.

HCIman wrote:

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Kudos to Applewhite for still being able to pull college tail. This is a total non-issue. He's a football coach.

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Agreed. He's a young guy. If he is single I don't see an issue

There's the moral issue of cheating on his wife.

You gravitate to that which you secretly love most. You meet in life the exact reproduction of your own thoughts

It happened 4 years ago.  Was he married then?

So he cheated on his wife? Tell me again why I'm supposed to care?
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Redbug22 wrote: Was she 18?

Did she consent?

If the answers are yes....I know the media cares....and the powers that be care....but I don't. Some college girl ****** a coach.

He was married with a wife about to give birth. You seem to believe that's okay. Move to France, where they seem to go for that kind of thing.

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Was it a dude? Or was that just speculation from earlier post?

the wife

Redbug22 wrote: Was she 18?

Did she consent?

If the answers are yes....I know the media cares....and the powers that be care....but I don't. Some college girl ****** a coach.

17 in Texas.

A lot different between a white man and a (let's count them)

1) black
2) female
3) homosexual
4) paralyzed, coach.

I'm having trouble finding another box to even check for the track coach.  Muslim?

I'm shocked UT even fired her.

wrcwolf wrote: The student Applewhite was banging was an athletic trainer for the football team, so I would say that the situations are identical with the women's track coach. If not identical, close enough for UT to have to squirm and either off Applewhite or pay off the track coach a considerable amount of money. They have plenty of money.

Wonder how safe Dodds is with this incident?

m.usatoday.com/article/news/1886861

According to a statement released Friday by Texas, Applewhite engaged in "inappropriate, consensual behavior with an adult student" during the Longhorns' trip to the Fiesta Bowl after the 2008 regular season. The student was working with the football team as an athletic trainer, according to the person with knowledge of the situation.

In a letter of reprimand dated Feb. 5, 2009, Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds wrote that Applewhite's salary would be frozen until Jan. 1, 2010. Applewhite was making $260,500, including base salary and other guaranteed university compensation, as the Longhorns' running backs coach. In 2012, as co-offensive coordinator, he made $575,000 in guaranteed compensation.

BeaufortCoPack wrote:

You gravitate to that which you secretly love most. You meet in life the exact reproduction of your own thoughts

wolfbreath wrote:

BeaufortCoPack wrote:

Man boobs?  Dude needs to hit the weight room.

The University of Texas System's Board of Regents met for a little more than two hours by conference call Sunday, discussing recent revelations of inappropriate behavior by coaches with students, but took no action.

www.usatoday.com/story/sports/...earney/1888689/

TauWolf wrote: A lot different between a white man and a (let's count them)

1) black
2) female
3) homosexual
4) paralyzed, coach.

I'm having trouble finding another box to even check for the track coach.  Muslim?

I'm shocked UT even fired her.

The characteristics you cite only matter if she is treated different than Applewhite and she can show they were the reason why.  If she was fired for having an inappropriate relationship why should Applewhite be treated differently?  Because he is a man?  Because he is a football coach?

For those who do not understand, the issue is Applewhite became involved with someone who is subordinate to him.  Someone he had power over.  That is inappropriate as the person holding the power can coerce the subordinate into starting and/or continuing the relationship.  On the flip side the subordinate employee can be perceived as receiving favorable treatment because of the relationship.

Almost all workplace personnel policies forbid these types of relationships.  If one starts innocently, at a minimum, one of the individuals has to move to a different job.  This was one of the issues with Tami Hansbourough.  She was romantically involved with her boss.

Romantic workplace relationships rarely end well.  I have seen people lose there jobs as a result.  There's an old saying that is on point here:

"Don't defecate were you eat"