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Re: ACC to consider NY for MBB ACCT 2/16 MSG for 5 years?

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Posted: 2/21/2013 2:36 PM

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Should be in Greensboro every year
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Posted: 2/21/2013 3:01 PM

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Consecutive years @ the garden? Meh. Not sure if that's a good idea. It'd be a big event, but it'll run out of steam quickly. I live in Jersey. The city is great, but after a while its the same old ****. Its like ******* a supermodel. After a couple years of people drooling over NYC, because its NYC, it'll come back to the fact that's its a bball tournament. It can be played almost anywhere. I'm for rotating. New and shiny isn't always best
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Posted: 2/21/2013 4:23 PM

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tokinpackfan wrote: Consecutive years @ the garden? Meh. Not sure if that's a good idea. It'd be a big event, but it'll run out of steam quickly. I live in Jersey. The city is great, but after a while its the same old ****. Its like ******* a supermodel. After a couple years of people drooling over NYC, because its NYC, it'll come back to the fact that's its a bball tournament. It can be played almost anywhere. I'm for rotating. New and shiny isn't always best
I think 5 years is too long too, for the same reason you mention - fatigue. However, as wrc says, if the ACCT wants to get into MSG, then MSG holds all the leverage to dictate the terms. ACC already tried a 1 year deal, and MSG said "no dice." MSG has a long-term commitment with the Big East (although once the Catholic 7 depart to form the Big Priest, that will likely be severed). If they dump the Big East, then the could choose to partner with the Big Priest on a permanent basis. If that happens, tough to see the ACCT ever being in MSG. My guess is that the Big Priest will want a permanent home, just like the Big East had. 

I thought that Barclays would offer more flexibility for the ACCT, since they would be looking to fill dates in competition with MSG. But then the Islanders decided to move there, giving Barclays 2 pro teams, and then Barclays signed up the A10 Tournament. They don't need the ACC either, and thus they have the better leverage in discussions. Will be interesting to see what happens if some of the better A10 teams split from that league and join the Big Priest - will Barclays look to get out of the A10 deal?

I think the ACCT in NYC is going to happen - I just hope that to do it, the ACC doesn't have to go overboard. A 5 year commitment to me is overboard. Last time the ACC held the Tournament at the same site for 5 straight years was 89-94 at the then brand new Charlotte Coliseum. It's moved around pretty regularly since then. A 3 year run at MSG to introduce the Northeast to the ACCT would be good, and then get it onto a set rotation among regions, so that every 3 years it's being held in one of the 3 geographic areas of the ACC: NE, Mid-atlantic, South. That's the fairest arrangement I can think of.
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Posted: 5/15/2013 8:17 PM

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The ACC is "thoroughly investigating" playing its men's basketball tournament at Madison Square Garden, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.

Besides Madison Square Garden, the ACC also has had discussions with the Barclays Center about holding its tournament in Brooklyn, a source said.

espn.go.com/new-york/mens-coll...den-sources-say

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Posted: 5/16/2013 10:35 AM

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on radio this morning, WPTF, I heard this would be permanent and not part of a rotation

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Posted: 5/16/2013 10:51 AM

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wolfer79 wrote: on radio this morning, WPTF, I heard this would be permanent and not part of a rotation
Don't listen to WPTF ever.  Are they credible or just blindly speculating like most in our local "media".

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Posted: 5/16/2013 10:58 AM

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RedLight wrote:
wolfer79 wrote: on radio this morning, WPTF, I heard this would be permanent and not part of a rotation
Don't listen to WPTF ever.  Are they credible or just blindly speculating like most in our local "media".
I like the all news hours when driving.

My feeling was they had someone in the ACC meeting room this week with the information they provided.

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Posted: 5/16/2013 11:31 AM

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brickeyjams21 wrote: Should be in Greensboro every year
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Posted: 5/16/2013 11:31 AM

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Madison Square Garden is the best basketball arena I've been to. It just has a feel to it that places like PNC lack somehow.
I still think GBoro should be rotated in. It's not the greatest town or the greatest arena, but it's a good, affordable geographical midway point.
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Posted: 5/16/2013 11:34 AM

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Maybe NYC for an occasional visit, but it should not be there every year. Rotate it like they have been.
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Posted: 5/16/2013 11:41 AM

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From Jeff Fischel of the ACC Digital Network:

@JeffFischel: Mark Gottfried: "Greensboro phenomenal. But ... consensus among coaches is ... NYC can elevate #ACC 2 another level."
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Posted: 5/20/2013 8:53 PM

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ACC Commissioner John Swofford reiterated interest Monday in a New York City presence for the conference's men's basketball tournament.

In an interview with Adam Gold and Joe Ovies on 99.9 FM The Fan ESPN Radio, Swofford said, "We do have an interest as a league of having some presence in New York with the tournament and other ways as well."

www.wralsportsfan.com/swofford...n-nyc/12465819/

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Posted: 5/20/2013 9:47 PM

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What is going to happen is the place will be half full unless Syracuse, ND or one of the Blues is playing. Otherwise, it will be empty and a poor TV Game. Plus, you can go to Greensboro for 3 years straight for what it would cost 1 year in NYC. I think the ACC will give it a go, but it will end up like the football championship game did in FL, with no one showing up.
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Posted: 5/20/2013 10:12 PM

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redterrors04 wrote:
brickeyjams21 wrote: Should be in Greensboro every year
ohlord
I live in NYC and I agree 100% that Gboro should get it every year. It will be a disaster up here. Trust me.
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Posted: 5/20/2013 11:21 PM

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It needs to rotate. Greensboro and Charlotte need to house the Tournament the most, but an occasional trip to Atlanta, Tampa, Washington, Philadelphia, and New York aren't bad things. However, any effort to have the ACC Tournament in any location other than Greensboro or Charlotte in two or more consecutive years would be foolish and damaging to the Tournament.
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Posted: 5/21/2013 7:18 AM

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Rotate between Gboro, CLT, NYC, and Tampa. But majority should stay in Gboro.
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