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Posted: 2/19/2013 4:53 PM
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1321wolf wrote:
xCainx wrote: This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
I've been to Greensboro several times for the tourney. There is nothing exciting, neat nor nostalgic about Greensboro, North Carolina! Madison Square Garden is going to pay more than Greensboro for the tournament? Are ticket prices going to be higher? People watching on TV really don't care where it is at, they only see the court.
If you also see Cats or buy a purse at Sak's 5th avenue while you're there (the reasons given for having it in NYC) how does that benefit the conference, and more importantly NC State? The money from that $400 hotel room goes to Paris Hilton's trust fund (unless you want to stay in New Jersey, but then how is that better than Gboro?)
How does this equate to one more dollar to help NC State compete?
It's all about the quality of the basketball, and if that has slipped it really doesn't matter where you hold it. I had some of the same questions. I have a feeling you are going to see a lot more empty seats in NYC and other than Tampa (where it should never be held again), the previous sites have benefited the local economy of the teams' home states. Yes, we have two teams in Florida but nowhere near Tampa and their fans don't exactly show up for basketball in masses. Sure, Syracuse is in NY but pretty far from NYC. I don't see how this move would benefit the conference. The tournament is already on national TV but it's being watered down now with all additional teams. "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift and that's why they call it 'the present', so enjoy it."--Alice Morse Earle via Mike Ditka |
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Posted: 2/19/2013 4:54 PM
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StateFan03 wrote: I must have missed this, how can the ACCT be played the same weekend as the Big East Tourney? Are they talking about playing it in Brooklyn? Good point... "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift and that's why they call it 'the present', so enjoy it."--Alice Morse Earle via Mike Ditka |
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Posted: 2/19/2013 4:57 PM
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DJ9686 wrote:
StateFan03 wrote: I must have missed this, how can the ACCT be played the same weekend as the Big East Tourney? Are they talking about playing it in Brooklyn?
Good point... MSG doesn't want the remnants of the Big East (or whatever it'll be called). They either want the Big Priest or ACC. In a perfect world they would get a mix of each. The Big East's dissolution will basically void the current Big East contract, since there won't be a Big East. This isn't the real Caesar's Palace is it? |
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Posted: 2/19/2013 11:50 PM
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rswilli2 wrote:
xCainx wrote: This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
I've been to Greensboro several times for the tourney. There is nothing exciting, neat nor nostalgic about Greensboro, North Carolina! This is the truth. Book the tournament in New York and I'm buying tickets immediately. Are you in the top 3000 or so in priority in the Wolfpack club that have the option to buy tickets to the tournament? |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 6:24 AM
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specialedition wrote:
rswilli2 wrote:
xCainx wrote: This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
I've been to Greensboro several times for the tourney. There is nothing exciting, neat nor nostalgic about Greensboro, North Carolina! This is the truth. Book the tournament in New York and I'm buying tickets immediately. Are you in the top 3000 or so in priority in the Wolfpack club that have the option to buy tickets to the tournament? Your ranking in the WPC really won't matter if the Tournament is in the Big Apple...there will be tickets available for anyone that actually wants them. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:03 AM
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^ Oh I don't doubt there would be tons of tickets being sold on the street. And tons of empty seats inside. You'll be able to hear a pin drop in there. Should come off great on TV. If Duke or Syracuse is in the championship game you might get an atmosphere almost as exciting as a home game in November against East Arkansas State Pine Bluff.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:07 AM
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elonwolfpacker wrote:
specialedition wrote:
rswilli2 wrote:
xCainx wrote: This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
I've been to Greensboro several times for the tourney. There is nothing exciting, neat nor nostalgic about Greensboro, North Carolina! This is the truth. Book the tournament in New York and I'm buying tickets immediately. Are you in the top 3000 or so in priority in the Wolfpack club that have the option to buy tickets to the tournament? Your ranking in the WPC really won't matter if the Tournament is in the Big Apple...there will be tickets available for anyone that actually wants them. Agreed. If the ACCT will be in the Garden, I will definitely be making the trip.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:44 AM
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specialedition wrote: ^ Oh I don't doubt there would be tons of tickets being sold on the street. And tons of empty seats inside. You'll be able to hear a pin drop in there. Should come off great on TV. If Duke or Syracuse is in the championship game you might get an atmosphere almost as exciting as a home game in November against East Arkansas State Pine Bluff. Agreed. The acc is going the same route that nascar did. Stupid is as stupid does. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:51 AM
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FLWolf88 wrote:
specialedition wrote: ^ Oh I don't doubt there would be tons of tickets being sold on the street. And tons of empty seats inside. You'll be able to hear a pin drop in there. Should come off great on TV. If Duke or Syracuse is in the championship game you might get an atmosphere almost as exciting as a home game in November against East Arkansas State Pine Bluff. Agreed. The acc is going the same route that nascar did. Stupid is as stupid does. Well with all the exciting nightlife in NYC I'm sure the attendees will be tired. The first and second round games in the Garden should provide the perfect atmosphere for taking a good nap and getting rested up to hit the bar scene afterward. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 12:11 PM
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PackBacker07 wrote:
DJ9686 wrote:
StateFan03 wrote: I must have missed this, how can the ACCT be played the same weekend as the Big East Tourney? Are they talking about playing it in Brooklyn?
Good point... MSG doesn't want the remnants of the Big East (or whatever it'll be called). They either want the Big Priest or ACC. In a perfect world they would get a mix of each. The Big East's dissolution will basically void the current Big East contract, since there won't be a Big East. I had not seen this name for the Catholic 7 before, and know it's a joke, but I absolutely love it. Ok, back to conversation about ACCT in NYC. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 12:14 PM
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specialedition wrote:
FLWolf88 wrote:
specialedition wrote: ^ Oh I don't doubt there would be tons of tickets being sold on the street. And tons of empty seats inside. You'll be able to hear a pin drop in there. Should come off great on TV. If Duke or Syracuse is in the championship game you might get an atmosphere almost as exciting as a home game in November against East Arkansas State Pine Bluff. Agreed. The acc is going the same route that nascar did. Stupid is as stupid does. Well with all the exciting nightlife in NYC I'm sure the attendees will be tired. The first and second round games in the Garden should provide the perfect atmosphere for taking a good nap and getting rested up to hit the bar scene afterward. The Big East Tournament has never lacked for atmosphere and excitement. People LOVE New York and will make the trip. If they'll travel to podunk Greensboro, then they'll find a way to make it to Manhattan. _____________________
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Posted: 2/20/2013 12:19 PM
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DJ9686 wrote:
1321wolf wrote:
xCainx wrote: This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
I've been to Greensboro several times for the tourney. There is nothing exciting, neat nor nostalgic about Greensboro, North Carolina! Madison Square Garden is going to pay more than Greensboro for the tournament? Are ticket prices going to be higher? People watching on TV really don't care where it is at, they only see the court.
If you also see Cats or buy a purse at Sak's 5th avenue while you're there (the reasons given for having it in NYC) how does that benefit the conference, and more importantly NC State? The money from that $400 hotel room goes to Paris Hilton's trust fund (unless you want to stay in New Jersey, but then how is that better than Gboro?)
How does this equate to one more dollar to help NC State compete?
It's all about the quality of the basketball, and if that has slipped it really doesn't matter where you hold it. I had some of the same questions. I have a feeling you are going to see a lot more empty seats in NYC and other than Tampa (where it should never be held again), the previous sites have benefited the local economy of the teams' home states. Yes, we have two teams in Florida but nowhere near Tampa and their fans don't exactly show up for basketball in masses. Sure, Syracuse is in NY but pretty far from NYC. I don't see how this move would benefit the conference. The tournament is already on national TV but it's being watered down now with all additional teams. How many years left does K have, or Boeheim for that matter? The possibility of either sanctions or roy boy retiring as well makes this a pretty risky decision for the swoff. If you commit to up there for 5 years, the ACC tourney could be dead by the time the contract runs out. I know some fans may want to shop 5th ave, but NYC in early March isn't exactly destination paradise. Other than 'cuse and the blues, and possibly our fanbase, I can see about 5 fans from opposing schools showing up for this. However, if it did end badly, and swoff got fired because of it, I'd consider it a win. "Every single day, in every walk of life, ordinary people do extraordinary things.!!" |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 12:49 PM
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rswilli2 wrote:
specialedition wrote:
FLWolf88 wrote:
specialedition wrote: ^ Oh I don't doubt there would be tons of tickets being sold on the street. And tons of empty seats inside. You'll be able to hear a pin drop in there. Should come off great on TV. If Duke or Syracuse is in the championship game you might get an atmosphere almost as exciting as a home game in November against East Arkansas State Pine Bluff. Agreed. The acc is going the same route that nascar did. Stupid is as stupid does. Well with all the exciting nightlife in NYC I'm sure the attendees will be tired. The first and second round games in the Garden should provide the perfect atmosphere for taking a good nap and getting rested up to hit the bar scene afterward. The Big East Tournament has never lacked for atmosphere and excitement. People LOVE New York and will make the trip. If they'll travel to podunk Greensboro, then they'll find a way to make it to Manhattan. I generally agree with your position that the ACCT will be a success in NYC, but I think that one of the major reasons that the Big East tournament has had such a great atmosphere is because of the proximity of MSG to a large number of the core Big East schools. St. John's, Seton Hall, Rutgers, are all within the NYC Metro area. The campuses of UConn and Syracuse are not, but the majority of their fans are also in the NYC Metro area, meaning that most are within a 1 hour drive and a plethora of cheap commuter rail options. Providence and Villanova are about 3 hours away, and at either end of the NYC commuter rail network, making it cheap and easy to get there (MSG sits on top of Penn Station) and conceivably trip where hotels aren't necessary. Even G'Town isn't too far by car, and only 3 hours on an Amtrak train (but G'Town fans would get a room). MSG was at the heart of the original Big East (before it became its bloated 16 team current edition). IMO your point about the Big East tourney having a great atmosphere is the same argument made as to why people say the Greensboro Coliseum helped make the ACCT so special and the ACCT should be played mostly there - it is located in roughly the center of the conference, easy for all the original members to get to. The difference is that MSG is "The World's Most Famous Arena" in "The City that Never Sleeps" while Greensboro Coliseum is huge arena built mainly for one event (the ACCT) in a city that's neither the largest city in its state (things to do) nor the state capital (things to do), so its just a boring small city. I think there's a place for the ACCT in both places (GSO and NYC), and because it's always rotated, I think this can happen. Personally, I think an ideal 3 year rotation would have a northern host (Boston, NYC, Philly), a mid-atlantic host (DC, GSO, CLT), and a southern host (ATL, FL). I think that GSO has absolutely earned the right to host the ACCT, but probably shouldn't host it the majority of the time anymore. |
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Posted: 2/20/2013 12:56 PM
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FuquayWolf wrote:
rswilli2 wrote:
specialedition wrote:
FLWolf88 wrote:
specialedition wrote: ^ Oh I don't doubt there would be tons of tickets being sold on the street. And tons of empty seats inside. You'll be able to hear a pin drop in there. Should come off great on TV. If Duke or Syracuse is in the championship game you might get an atmosphere almost as exciting as a home game in November against East Arkansas State Pine Bluff. Agreed. The acc is going the same route that nascar did. Stupid is as stupid does. Well with all the exciting nightlife in NYC I'm sure the attendees will be tired. The first and second round games in the Garden should provide the perfect atmosphere for taking a good nap and getting rested up to hit the bar scene afterward. The Big East Tournament has never lacked for atmosphere and excitement. People LOVE New York and will make the trip. If they'll travel to podunk Greensboro, then they'll find a way to make it to Manhattan. I generally agree with your position that the ACCT will be a success in NYC, but I think that one of the major reasons that the Big East tournament has had such a great atmosphere is because of the proximity of MSG to a large number of the core Big East schools. St. John's, Seton Hall, Rutgers, are all within the NYC Metro area. The campuses of UConn and Syracuse are not, but the majority of their fans are also in the NYC Metro area, meaning that most are within a 1 hour drive and a plethora of cheap commuter rail options. Providence and Villanova are about 3 hours away, and at either end of the NYC commuter rail network, making it cheap and easy to get there (MSG sits on top of Penn Station) and conceivably trip where hotels aren't necessary. Even G'Town isn't too far by car, and only 3 hours on an Amtrak train (but G'Town fans would get a room). MSG was at the heart of the original Big East (before it became its bloated 16 team current edition).
IMO your point about the Big East tourney having a great atmosphere is the same argument made as to why people say the Greensboro Coliseum helped make the ACCT so special and the ACCT should be played mostly there - it is located in roughly the center of the conference, easy for all the original members to get to. The difference is that MSG is "The World's Most Famous Arena" in "The City that Never Sleeps" while Greensboro Coliseum is huge arena built mainly for one event (the ACCT) in a city that's neither the largest city in its state (things to do) nor the state capital (things to do), so its just a boring small city.
I think there's a place for the ACCT in both places (GSO and NYC), and because it's always rotated, I think this can happen. Personally, I think an ideal 3 year rotation would have a northern host (Boston, NYC, Philly), a mid-atlantic host (DC, GSO, CLT), and a southern host (ATL, FL). I think that GSO has absolutely earned the right to host the ACCT, but probably shouldn't host it the majority of the time anymore. ^This "You're gonna need a bigger boat"
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:48 PM
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WOW... so many misguided posts here that I'm not even sure which specific one to respond to.
I'm not even going to comment on my personal preference regarding the tradition of the ACC and the fact that from a convenience standpoint they could play it in Greensboro every single year and I'd be just fine.
However, a little common sense needs to be applied here, folks.
New York City is a destination city. The most popular destination city in the entire world.
First of all, the ACC Tournament is going to sellout in an instant the first year it is held in New York City. Each school will sell their entire allotment to their own fans, not even a question.
For anybody to think the games would be played in an empty arena is just absolutely crazy... not to mention that in a city of 10 million, the secondary market will be bustling also.
Sometimes I just have to wonder where these posts are coming from!?!?
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:58 PM
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TheStorm2 wrote:
New York City is a destination city. The most popular destination city in the entire world. More like the US. The Big Apple doesn't hold a candle to Paris and London.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:05 PM
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Only for an American. Because you live here.
To those from other countries New York is the holy grail of world cities - much bigger than either London or Paris. If you ever spent any appreciable time there and paid attention it would be obvious. That's why I said in the entire world... and it's a 100% correct statement.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:27 PM
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http://travel.usnews.com/featu...Visited_Cities/Not according to US News. In fact, cities in far away lands like Turkey, Singapore, and Malaysia are much close to NYC than NYC is to London or Paris. The fact is, the ACC tourney can't get butts in the seats for anything other the championship games or games involving blues. Why anybody thinks GT fan or miami fan is gonna shell out thousands of dollars to go get beat in a bigger city is beyond me.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:36 PM
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Well I think it is cool if a place like this gets every once in while. Maybe 5 years over a 15 year span.
IMO, Greensboro should get about 6 out every 10. The revenue is great for the Triad and it really is a central East Coast location. On any given year, chances are extremely high that one or more of the Big 4 teams will make it to the finals.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:42 PM
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Thanks. I believe you indirectly just proved my point.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 4:42 PM
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NOVAwolf wrote:
TheStorm2 wrote:
New York City is a destination city. The most popular destination city in the entire world. More like the US. The Big Apple doesn't hold a candle to Paris and London. Je ne suis pas d'accord. I like the athletic type.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 4:45 PM
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wulfpackbaseball9 wrote: http://travel.usnews.com/featu...Visited_Cities/
Not according to US News.
In fact, cities in far away lands like Turkey, Singapore, and Malaysia are much close to NYC than NYC is to London or Paris.
The fact is, the ACC tourney can't get butts in the seats for anything other the championship games or games involving blues.
Why anybody thinks GT fan or miami fan is gonna shell out thousands of dollars to go get beat in a bigger city is beyond me. That site only counts international arrivals. Does not count folks internal the country. As you can imagine that creates a huge disparity when you consider a place like Abu Dhabi or Hong Kong. Tough to drive to those places. I like the athletic type.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:07 AM
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TheStorm2 wrote: WOW... so many misguided posts here that I'm not even sure which specific one to respond to.
I'm not even going to comment on my personal preference regarding the tradition of the ACC and the fact that from a convenience standpoint they could play it in Greensboro every single year and I'd be just fine.
However, a little common sense needs to be applied here, folks.
New York City is a destination city. The most popular destination city in the entire world.
First of all, the ACC Tournament is going to sellout in an instant the first year it is held in New York City. Each school will sell their entire allotment to their own fans, not even a question.
For anybody to think the games would be played in an empty arena is just absolutely crazy... not to mention that in a city of 10 million, the secondary market will be bustling also.
Sometimes I just have to wonder where these posts are coming from!?!? Exactly, thats why the pac-12, mountain west and west coast conference are all having their tournaments in las vegas when only one of them have a team here. The ACC tournament will do fine in msg. |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:24 AM
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TheStorm2 wrote: Only for an American. Because you live here.
To those from other countries New York is the holy grail of world cities - much bigger than either London or Paris. If you ever spent any appreciable time there and paid attention it would be obvious. That's why I said in the entire world... and it's a 100% correct statement. Are there international attendance records for the ACC tournament? The truth is, most New York sports fans would prefer to go to a Rangers game than the ACC tournament. It should be in Greensboro. No city will EVER embrace that tournament like Greensboro! |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:32 AM
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gotohellunc wrote:
TheStorm2 wrote: Only for an American. Because you live here.
To those from other countries New York is the holy grail of world cities - much bigger than either London or Paris. If you ever spent any appreciable time there and paid attention it would be obvious. That's why I said in the entire world... and it's a 100% correct statement. Are there international attendance records for the ACC tournament? The truth is, most New York sports fans would prefer to go to a Rangers game than the ACC tournament.
It should be in Greensboro. No city will EVER embrace that tournament like Greensboro! Raleigh embraced the tournament very well from '54-'66, too bad it won't come back here! |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 8:23 AM
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Imagine if the Big East had come in and taken UNC, Duke, Maryland, Virginia, GT and FSU, effectively destroying the ACC. Then it decided to have its tournament in Charlotte. I wonder what kind of welcome that tournament would receive? I'm thinking there'd be mobs threatening to fire bomb the place.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:11 AM
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The ACCT would not be competing with the Rangers etc.. for NYC sports fans. Rather the idea is each ACC school should easily be able to sell a few thousand tickets since this is NYC we are talking about and gives folks a good excuse to visit. Would likely have no problem selling out the arena.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:27 AM
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^ Sure it will sell out "officially." But there will still be lots of empty seats, even in the championship game if it doesn't involve Syracuse or Duke, and it won't look or sound good on TV.
The football championship game in Florida was an embarassing failure and had to be moved to Charlotte to get any respectable attendance/atmosphere. And the interest in the conference basketball tournaments seems to be eroding nationally. Original ACC fanbases care about it far more than anybody else because of the ACC tournament's history/tradition, but nobody else cares about that. |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:43 AM
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Maybe , but you could say the same thing if it were Gboro and you had Miami and bc in the finals.
Regardless, it is a solid idea to have it in Barclays or MSG every three years or so, my ideal rotation would be gboro, NYC,Tampa/Orlando.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:45 AM
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******* muther ******* swofford is trying to turn the acc into the big east.
who gets $5?
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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:46 AM
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MSG in the rotation? Absolutely.
Multiple years consecutively? Absolutely not.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:59 AM
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sloth wrote: Maybe , but you could say the same thing if it were Gboro and you had Miami and bc in the finals.
Sure, but what are the chances of that? Hell can anybody even remember the last time the championship game didn't have a team from NC? Usually its just a question of whether it will be 1 or 2 teams from NC in the final. |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 10:03 AM
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Actually good chances this year for at least one. We will be able to see just how few Miami bball fans there are when they play on Sunday. should be lots of empty seats since they have so few ball fans willing to travel.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 10:08 AM
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--------------------------------------------- --- rswilli2 wrote: xCainx wrote: This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
I've been to Greensboro several times for the tourney. There is nothing exciting, neat nor nostalgic about Greensboro, North Carolina! This is the truth. Book the tournament in New York and I'm buying tickets immediately. --------------------------------------------- Hell, my wife would buy them FOR me. That trip would be the best if both worlds for both of us... ________________________________________________________
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Posted: 2/21/2013 10:13 AM
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After the editions of SU and Pitt, Ray Charles could have seen this coming. It was only a matter of time before they went after the big stage.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 10:25 AM
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The Atlantic Coast Division of the Big East Conference tourney should rotate between Miami - UM, Boston-BC, New York-Cuse and Chicago-ND. The ACD of the BEC is major league and the tournament must be held in major league cities.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 10:43 AM
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sloth wrote: Actually good chances this year for at least one. We will be able to see just how few Miami bball fans there are when they play on Sunday. should be lots of empty seats since they have so few ball fans willing to travel. Yeah, there's a significant chance that there will be one team from outside of NC playing in the ACC championship game this year. Let's assume Miami goes undefeated the rest the year and gets to the finals. Let's assume its Miami against State Duke UNC Maryland or UVA. I'd bet in any of those matchups there would be higher actual attendance for that game in Greensboro than if you played it in Miami or NYC. |
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Posted: 2/21/2013 10:53 AM
RE: ACC to consider NY for MBB ACCT 2/16 MSG for 5 years?
just find a professional venue in NC, like say, where the Carolina Hurricanes play, and be done with it. No one should have a problem with that.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 11:38 AM
Re: ACC to consider NY for MBB ACCT 2/16 MSG for 5 years?
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WOW... so many misguided posts here that I'm not even sure which specific one to respond to.
I'm not even going to comment on my personal preference regarding the tradition of the ACC and the fact that from a convenience standpoint they could play it in Greensboro every single year and I'd be just fine.
However, a little common sense needs to be applied here, folks.
New York City is a destination city. The most popular destination city in the entire world.
First of all, the ACC Tournament is going to sellout in an instant the first year it is held in New York City. Each school will sell their entire allotment to their own fans, not even a question.
For anybody to think the games would be played in an empty arena is just absolutely crazy... not to mention that in a city of 10 million, the secondary market will be bustling also.
Sometimes I just have to wonder where these posts are coming from!?!?
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I guess they are patrons of Southside Johnny's and Stameys, who don't want to see those establishments lose their big revenue week. :)
As Fuquay mentions, the Tourney will likely rotate to a few different cities eventually. If the ACC does indeed decide to commit to 5 straight years at MSG at the beginning, it's to let MSG know they want to be partners. The "world's most famous arena" has all the leverage in these negotiations. They'll fill their arena on those dates no matter what is scheduled. Will be interesting to see who MSG casts it's lot to, the ACC or the Catholic 7. My guess is some combination (3 yrs with one, 2 yrs with other over a five-year period) or the Catholic 7.
As for those claiming an ACC Tourney at MSG wouldn't attract fans, bs. The "Mecca of basketball" will have no problem bringing in fans with the storied programs of the ACC playing in it. Be that fans from the schools or just basketball fans in NYC, it would be a hot ticket. I'm surprised some State fans don't want to vist the arena that showcased Bruno Sammartino for years and was the site of Hulk Hogan winning his first WWE belt. I kid, I kid. I do know the kids we are recruiting would love to play a conference tourney in the "Mecca of basketball". But, who cares about them?
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Posted: 2/21/2013 1:16 PM
RE: ACC to consider NY for MBB ACCT 2/16 MSG for 5 years?
sloth wrote: Actually good chances this year for at least one. We will be able to see just how few Miami bball fans there are when they play on Sunday. should be lots of empty seats since they have so few ball fans willing to travel. I don't think miami will make it to Sunday. |
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