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RE: ACC to consider NY for MBB ACCT 2/16 MSG for 5 years?
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Posted: 2/16/2013 11:36 PM
RE: ACC to consider NY for MBB ACCT 2/16 MSG for 5 years?
It needs to be rotated between North Carolina (Greensboro and Charlotte), Atlanta, Florida (Orlando, Tampa), Washington, and New York. It doesn't need to be held in the same place every year. I have always hated that. The Greensboro Coliseum sucks by the way. It did when it seated 14,000 and it does now when it seats 22,000. All it has is a bunch of seats. It has no ambiance.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 12:12 AM
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New York for 5 years? What a ******* joke. Cater to Sorrycuse and just go ahead and admit it, please.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 9:12 AM
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lupinusNewJerseyus wrote: Horse buggies had a long tradition. So did sailing ships. But sometimes traditions go by the way side.
The ACC has changed. Like it or not, it has to market itself as a modern conference with national importance and relevance. .
Greensboro to the rest of the world is a 5 exits on an interstate. There's ZERO travel appeal. I'm sorry folks, but no one outside of NC wants to go there. I grew up in NC but I'm not spending my money to go spend time in Greensboro and then getting sent packing early to do what? NYC I'll go to shows, Tampa I'll go saltwater fly fishing, DC I'll go flip off the prez, but Greensboro?
The ACC tourney needs to become a bowl like experience for this conference to prosper. NYC (manhattan specifically) is a great place to travel to. The ACC is already nationally important and relevant in basketball. The ACC was the premier basketball conference for decades when the tournanment was held in Greensboro or Charlotte, because the basketball was good. They could have held the tournament in Hickory or Laurenburg or Macon or Roanoke or Marion, it wouldn't have mattered. A conference's relevance has nothing at all to do with where it holds its tournament. Nothing at all. It's about the quality on the court. Period. |
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Posted: 2/17/2013 9:16 AM
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LMFAO!!If a significant chunk of the university representatives were against it, Swofford wouldn't be going for it. Swofford has to answer to the member institutions. It's not as if he runs the conference without the approval of its members, as so many who like to blame all the failures on Swoff would like to believe.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 5:55 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- 1321wolf wrote: lupinusNewJerseyus wrote: Horse buggies had a long tradition. So did sailing ships. But sometimes traditions go by the way side.
The ACC has changed. Like it or not, it has to market itself as a modern conference with national importance and relevance. .
Greensboro to the rest of the world is a 5 exits on an interstate. There's ZERO travel appeal. I'm sorry folks, but no one outside of NC wants to go there. I grew up in NC but I'm not spending my money to go spend time in Greensboro and then getting sent packing early to do what? NYC I'll go to shows, Tampa I'll go saltwater fly fishing, DC I'll go flip off the prez, but Greensboro?
The ACC tourney needs to become a bowl like experience for this conference to prosper. NYC (manhattan specifically) is a great place to travel to. The ACC is already nationally important and relevant in basketball. The ACC was the premier basketball conference for decades when the tournanment was held in Greensboro or Charlotte, because the basketball was good. They could have held the tournament in Hickory or Laurenburg or Macon or Roanoke or Marion, it wouldn't have mattered. A conference's relevance has nothing at all to do with where it holds its tournament. Nothing at all. It's about the quality on the court. Period. --------------------------------------------- I know we would all like to believe that is the bottom line but it's just not true. The tournaments appeal has declined even in years when the product has excelled. It is the league's responsibility to explore the best options for the entire leagues appeal. And, sorry, these aren't the days of a 8 team league where half of the teams are within a 90 minute drive of Greensboro anymore. And, even if it were true, (and, I know some idiots here disagree) the ACC has no control over which teams are good or bad...therefore they need to be proactive with the factors they can control.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 7:42 PM
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1. It's a very different event with 15 teams played over 5 days, instead of a 3 day event with 7-8 teams.
2. Even with 12 teams and 4 days, there has not been a winner below the 4th seed in years - so no drama.
3. NCAA bids are not really on the line due to the expansion of the NCAA.
I have to wonder if the tournament would be improved if it were cut back to 8 teams and 3 days.
I like the athletic type.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 9:14 PM
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It appears that collegiate conferences are trying to kill the goose that laid the golden egg by doing things like this. The ACC belongs in Greensboro with an occasional year where it moves to another venue. The traditions must be honored to keep putting people in seats unless all schools adopt the "Carolina Way" where players become pros without coursework.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 10:39 PM
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We should play it in DC for 5 straight years as a nice efff u to MD once they're gone.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 10:45 PM
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It's all about TV now so not sure why it matters where it's played other than to put butts in seats. G'boro makes the most sense. People in NY aren't going to watch VT/Clemson. We have empty seats in G'boro as it is. Heck play in a 12K arena every year and make the tix hard to get. Place would be full and it would be special to attend. 1321wolf wrote:
lupinusNewJerseyus wrote: Horse buggies had a long tradition. So did sailing ships. But sometimes traditions go by the way side.
The ACC has changed. Like it or not, it has to market itself as a modern conference with national importance and relevance. .
Greensboro to the rest of the world is a 5 exits on an interstate. There's ZERO travel appeal. I'm sorry folks, but no one outside of NC wants to go there. I grew up in NC but I'm not spending my money to go spend time in Greensboro and then getting sent packing early to do what? NYC I'll go to shows, Tampa I'll go saltwater fly fishing, DC I'll go flip off the prez, but Greensboro?
The ACC tourney needs to become a bowl like experience for this conference to prosper. NYC (manhattan specifically) is a great place to travel to.
The ACC is already nationally important and relevant in basketball. The ACC was the premier basketball conference for decades when the tournanment was held in Greensboro or Charlotte, because the basketball was good. They could have held the tournament in Hickory or Laurenburg or Macon or Roanoke or Marion, it wouldn't have mattered.
A conference's relevance has nothing at all to do with where it holds its tournament. Nothing at all. It's about the quality on the court. Period.
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Posted: 2/17/2013 11:27 PM
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This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
I've been to Greensboro several times for the tourney. There is nothing exciting, neat nor nostalgic about Greensboro, North Carolina!
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:01 AM
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xCainx wrote: This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
I've been to Greensboro several times for the tourney. There is nothing exciting, neat nor nostalgic about Greensboro, North Carolina! Madison Square Garden is going to pay more than Greensboro for the tournament? Are ticket prices going to be higher? People watching on TV really don't care where it is at, they only see the court. If you also see Cats or buy a purse at Sak's 5th avenue while you're there (the reasons given for having it in NYC) how does that benefit the conference, and more importantly NC State? The money from that $400 hotel room goes to Paris Hilton's trust fund (unless you want to stay in New Jersey, but then how is that better than Gboro?) How does this equate to one more dollar to help NC State compete? It's all about the quality of the basketball, and if that has slipped it really doesn't matter where you hold it. |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:04 AM
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It's to introduce the ACC to that market. To get people there to care more.
How does the location affect the quality.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:10 AM
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But Rutgers owns the NYC market!!!!11
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Posted: 2/18/2013 8:22 AM
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xCainx wrote: It's to introduce the ACC to that market. To get people there to care more.
How does the location affect the quality. People in NYC don't know about ACC basketball? Don't they have ESPN? It has only been the premier college basketball coference for decades. So if something isn't in Madison Square Garden people who live in NYC aren't aware of it? I thought Syracuse was supposed to deliver the NYC TV market for the ACC. Are they not capable of holding up their end of the bargain? If the quality isn't there it doesn't matter where you hold the tournament. |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 9:18 AM
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1321wolf wrote:
xCainx wrote: It's to introduce the ACC to that market. To get people there to care more.
How does the location affect the quality. People in NYC don't know about ACC basketball? Don't they have ESPN? It has only been the premier college basketball coference for decades. So if something isn't in Madison Square Garden people who live in NYC aren't aware of it? I thought Syracuse was supposed to deliver the NYC TV market for the ACC. Are they not capable of holding up their end of the bargain?
If the quality isn't there it doesn't matter where you hold the tournament. Nothing screems ACC like NYC..... |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:13 AM
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elonwolfpacker wrote: Nothing screams ACC like NYC..... LOL! Post of the year!  |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:33 AM
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Ok, you'll argue about this no matter what....and mind cannot be swayed. So lets just let it go. It's going to happen. Times changes, and you can't remain stuck. College sports landscape has changed. The ACC is not the same ACC of long ago....8 team league. USC left the ACC, GT joined, so did FSU,...VT, Miami, Boston College, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Pitt,...Lousiville, ...Maryland is leaving. NYC is the worlds biggest stage. This is not the old ACC. Having it the a city the magnitude of NYC is something that make sense for exposure for this league. We control these markets now. Greensboro does nothing for the ACC other than some odd nostalgic thing in some small NC city. Just be rational. --------------------------------------------- --- 1321wolf wrote: xCainx wrote: It's to introduce the ACC to that market. To get people there to care more.
How does the location affect the quality. People in NYC don't know about ACC basketball? Don't they have ESPN? It has only been the premier college basketball coference for decades. So if something isn't in Madison Square Garden people who live in NYC aren't aware of it? I thought Syracuse was supposed to deliver the NYC TV market for the ACC. Are they not capable of holding up their end of the bargain? If the quality isn't there it doesn't matter where you hold the tournament. --------------------------------------------- |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:11 PM
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NOVAwolf wrote: I wouldn't mind having it in DC again, but it felt too small last time. With conference expansion, it'll be even tighter. I am hoping we play in the NCAA's in DC this year (assuming we make it there). Last time we went to NCAA in DC was one of the top 10 days of my life. Gordon Biersch Brewery fun. |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:25 PM
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packgrad12 wrote: I started law school in Queens in August and went to the Jimmy V Classic at MSG this year. While I would love for the tournament to be up here for selfish reasons, it should not be in NYC that many years in a row. While expansion was/is a necessary evil, tradition should still be preserved. That's what makes college sports so great. I think that there should be some sort of rotation between locations, or at least it should alternate between Greensboro and NYC. NYC also does not care at all about college sports. I feel like the tournament in NYC would not be close to what it is in Greensboro. Ive been up here in NYC for over a year now and I completely agree. I think it should be primarily in Greensboro. NYC maybe once every 5 or 6 years. The atmosphere isnt going to be anywhere close in NYC. |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 12:49 PM
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NYC brings a high cost of travel for both teams and fans. A higher cost for hotel rooms for teams and fans. A higher cost for food and entertainment for teams and fans.
These extended costs will lead to few fans traveling to the games, which means there will be fewer tickets sold for the tournament.
Fewer tickets sold for the tournament means the atmosphere inside the arena will not be as great as it would somewhere else.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:02 PM
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Nicbsbll2 wrote: NYC brings a high cost of travel for both teams and fans. A higher cost for hotel rooms for teams and fans. A higher cost for food and entertainment for teams and fans.
These extended costs will lead to few fans traveling to the games, which means there will be fewer tickets sold for the tournament.
Fewer tickets sold for the tournament means the atmosphere inside the arena will not be as great as it would somewhere else. It will basically equate to a home game for Sorrycuse. The atmosphere inside will not be nearly as good and the atmosphere outside will not either. Not tailgaiting with teams from all over and the bars will probably not even have the damn games on. People just dont care up here. |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:04 PM
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If the ACC tournament goes to MSG for five years in a row or more like the article states then I would like to see the Tobacco Road schools revive either the Dixie Classic or the Big Four tournament in Greensboro. It would be a nice nod to tradition with all the changes going on in college sports.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:14 PM
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wolfpackernc wrote: Great idea unless you are still upset about the War of Northern Aggression. Great idea unless you want it in a city that actually gives a **** about the ACC. |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:16 PM
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What exposure? 99% of people who will see the ACCT will see it on TV. MSG seats 19,000 for basketball, GC seats 23,000. So, what are these rational arguments? You are simply stating empty platitudes about how great of a place NYC is. How does having the tournament in NYC get more exposure? xCainx wrote: Ok, you'll argue about this no matter what....and mind cannot be swayed. So lets just let it go. It's going to happen.
Times changes, and you can't remain stuck. College sports landscape has changed. The ACC is not the same ACC of long ago....8 team league. USC left the ACC, GT joined, so did FSU,...VT, Miami, Boston College, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Pitt,...Lousiville, ...Maryland is leaving.
NYC is the worlds biggest stage. This is not the old ACC. Having it the a city the magnitude of NYC is something that make sense for exposure for this league. We control these markets now. Greensboro does nothing for the ACC other than some odd nostalgic thing in some small NC city.
Just be rational.
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xCainx wrote: It's to introduce the ACC to that market. To get people there to care more.
How does the location affect the quality. People in NYC don't know about ACC basketball? Don't they have ESPN? It has only been the premier college basketball coference for decades. So if something isn't in Madison Square Garden people who live in NYC aren't aware of it? I thought Syracuse was supposed to deliver the NYC TV market for the ACC. Are they not capable of holding up their end of the bargain?
If the quality isn't there it doesn't matter where you hold the tournament.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:24 PM
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xCainx wrote: This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
Yeah, well it worked out great for the Big East didn't it? Having their tournament in NYC every year made them so successful and powerful that they could be easily dismantled by the hillbilly conference playing in Greensboro all these years. I'm sure the SEC will follow suit and start playing its championship football game in St. Louis soon too. |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:25 PM
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I would love to see the Tournament in NYC, but it should be on an occasional basis only. No more than twice in a 5-6 year span. Greensboro should stay the primary home.
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:33 PM
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1321wolf wrote:
xCainx wrote: This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
I've been to Greensboro several times for the tourney. There is nothing exciting, neat nor nostalgic about Greensboro, North Carolina! Madison Square Garden is going to pay more than Greensboro for the tournament? Are ticket prices going to be higher? People watching on TV really don't care where it is at, they only see the court.
If you also see Cats or buy a purse at Sak's 5th avenue while you're there (the reasons given for having it in NYC) how does that benefit the conference, and more importantly NC State? The money from that $400 hotel room goes to Paris Hilton's trust fund (unless you want to stay in New Jersey, but then how is that better than Gboro?)
How does this equate to one more dollar to help NC State compete?
It's all about the quality of the basketball, and if that has slipped it really doesn't matter where you hold it. I'll tell you one area where it could help NC State. The NY pipeline. All these baller kids up here, playing in the Bronx and places like St Peters, etc. Tell these kids that every couple of years your family would get chance to see you on the highest stage. At the GARDEN. Where these kids dream of playing some day. The GARDEN. not greensboro. If you can't turn that into recruiting gold, no one can. Also, travel into NYC is cheap. Way cheaper than Greensboro, but hey what do I know, I only fly 100K miles a year. Hotels suck, but you get what you pay for. I'd rather pay 400 bucks a night for Manhattan than $99 for Greensboro any day. |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 10:29 PM
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lupinusNewJerseyus wrote:
1321wolf wrote:
xCainx wrote: This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
I've been to Greensboro several times for the tourney. There is nothing exciting, neat nor nostalgic about Greensboro, North Carolina! Madison Square Garden is going to pay more than Greensboro for the tournament? Are ticket prices going to be higher? People watching on TV really don't care where it is at, they only see the court.
If you also see Cats or buy a purse at Sak's 5th avenue while you're there (the reasons given for having it in NYC) how does that benefit the conference, and more importantly NC State? The money from that $400 hotel room goes to Paris Hilton's trust fund (unless you want to stay in New Jersey, but then how is that better than Gboro?)
How does this equate to one more dollar to help NC State compete?
It's all about the quality of the basketball, and if that has slipped it really doesn't matter where you hold it. I'll tell you one area where it could help NC State. The NY pipeline. All these baller kids up here, playing in the Bronx and places like St Peters, etc. Tell these kids that every couple of years your family would get chance to see you on the highest stage. At the GARDEN. Where these kids dream of playing some day. The GARDEN. not greensboro.
If you can't turn that into recruiting gold, no one can.
Also, travel into NYC is cheap. Way cheaper than Greensboro, but hey what do I know, I only fly 100K miles a year. Hotels suck, but you get what you pay for. I'd rather pay 400 bucks a night for Manhattan than $99 for Greensboro any day. A kid's family will be able to see them play in one game every couple of years, that's a recruiting advantage? |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 11:34 PM
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Here's a question I'd like to ask, when the league goes to 15 do the bottom 3 teams get eliminated or will they be included in the tournament?
If they are included, then I'd like to see play-in games of the bottom 6 seeds at the home arenas on Monday (make the last day of the regular season Saturday) before the tournament and then reseed the bottom 8 of the 12 going into Thursday.
Which do y'all feel is the better option?
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Posted: 2/19/2013 9:05 AM
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Should be pretty simple with 15 teams. Everybody plays 4 rounds except the #1 seed who gets a bye.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 10:41 AM
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WakeForestIndy wrote: If the ACC tournament goes to MSG for five years in a row or more like the article states then I would like to see the Tobacco Road schools revive either the Dixie Classic or the Big Four tournament in Greensboro. It would be a nice nod to tradition with all the changes going on in college sports. That would be a great idea if not for the fact that schools are limited to one sanctioned tournament a year. Can't see any of the four schools giving up trips to Maui, Puerto Rico, Bahamas etc... to play in a 4 team tourney in Greensboro against teams you're already going to play twice a year. |
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Posted: 2/19/2013 10:49 AM
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Play a three day round robin instead of a tournament.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 10:56 AM
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ncdoc wrote:
WakeForestIndy wrote: If the ACC tournament goes to MSG for five years in a row or more like the article states then I would like to see the Tobacco Road schools revive either the Dixie Classic or the Big Four tournament in Greensboro. It would be a nice nod to tradition with all the changes going on in college sports. That would be a great idea if not for the fact that schools are limited to one sanctioned tournament a year. Can't see any of the four schools giving up trips to Maui, Puerto Rico, Bahamas etc... to play in a 4 team tourney in Greensboro against teams you're already going to play twice a year. Doesn't have to be a tournament if you stay with the Big 4. Do it the way the Indiana schools do the Crossroads Classic at Bankers Life Fieldhouse in Indy. Butler, IU, Purdue, and ND play a double header, and they switch teams each year to avoid repeat matchups. It's just an extra OOC game for the teams. I believe that the Crossroads Classic is only temporary, but in terms of fan support and interest its been an unmitigated success. Slightly different here, since all of the Big 4 teams are in the same conference, whereas in Indy only IU and Purdue are (and they haven't played yet, likely by design). Still, it could be done - biggest hurdle would be the 4 coaches, who I'm sure don't want to give up a patsy OOC game to play a conference rival in a OOC game slot. I agree with you (can't believe I agree with a Tar Hole on anything) that something like the Dixie Classic will likely never be repeated. In it's time, the Dixie Classic was the Maui Invitational, etc. - the premier holiday tournament in college basketball. Back to the ACCT in NYC, the reason that the ACC is pitching a 5-year deal is because they are desperate to get the tourney into NYC for some reason. MSG balked at a 1 year deal, because MSG can. They have all the leverage since they've got the Big East locked down, and if they lose the Big East, they can easily get the Catholic 7 (not to mention if neither works, they get more schedule flexibility for the Rangers and Knicks, and can fill holes with concerts). Also, doesn't appear that Barclays is interested (they have a long term deal with the A-10), so you can play the 2 against each other, which is what I hoped for. I don't like the ACCT ever being in one place for 5 straight years, and certainly not in the most expensive place imaginable. Wonder if MSG would compromise on 3 years? |
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Posted: 2/19/2013 11:09 AM
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In the days of 4 and 5-day conference tournaments, in order for fans to make the investment in travel and time, these events--even the ACC Tournament--are going to have to be held increasingly in locations and venues that are attractive as a place to visit for that long.
With that idea in mind, and based on the current and future geography of the league, NYC and Washington seem like natural recurring locations for the tournament. It sounds blasphemous to say, but I could see a day when Greensboro is either eliminated or greatly reduced in the tournament rotation. Charlotte will likely become the NC tournament location because it's a better place to visit for the long haul that the event has become. Because Atlanta is a great place to visit, as well, I can see it becoming more prominent in the rotation as well.
NYC, Washington, Charlotte/Greensboro, Atlanta--there are your future ACC Tournament locations. The tournament is going to be held outside of the state of NC more than not.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 1:34 PM
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ncdoc wrote:
WakeForestIndy wrote: If the ACC tournament goes to MSG for five years in a row or more like the article states then I would like to see the Tobacco Road schools revive either the Dixie Classic or the Big Four tournament in Greensboro. It would be a nice nod to tradition with all the changes going on in college sports. That would be a great idea if not for the fact that schools are limited to one sanctioned tournament a year. Can't see any of the four schools giving up trips to Maui, Puerto Rico, Bahamas etc... to play in a 4 team tourney in Greensboro against teams you're already going to play twice a year. Is it just one sanctioned tournament per year or one sanctioned preseason tournament? So you can't play in Maui in November then have the Big Four tournament over Christmas? Seems like a rule that could be changed or tweaked to allow it without too much trouble. |
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Posted: 2/19/2013 2:12 PM
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My understanding is it's one per season and you can only go to the same tourney once every 4 years. Of course, as FuquayPack mentioned previously I guess they could play it as a 4 team doubleheader with the opponents switching each year.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 3:34 PM
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I must have missed this, how can the ACCT be played the same weekend as the Big East Tourney? Are they talking about playing it in Brooklyn?
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Posted: 2/19/2013 3:38 PM
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^ I thought the ACC tournament was the Big East tournament now? Or is it vice versa?
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Posted: 2/19/2013 3:47 PM
RE: ACC to consider NY for MBB ACCT 2/16 MSG for 5 years?
Here's an idea. Divide the conference into 2 divisions. One division with all the original members of the ACC and another division with the Big East refugees. Everybody plays everybody in their division twice in the regular season and nobody in the other division. Then have the original members have a "divisional" tournament in Greensboro and the Big East refugees play a "divisional" tournament in New York. Everybody's happy again.
Then after that if anybody still really cares about having a champion for the so called "conference", let the 2 division champions play in DC or something. Winner gets some kind of civil war battle trophy. If an original ACC member wins then the original member division is allowed to secede from the ACC until a Big East member wins and the original members are forced back in.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 4:36 PM
RE: ACC to consider NY for MBB ACCT 2/16 MSG for 5 years?
xCainx wrote: This is about $$$$ people. We talk about how much the other conferences make per team.
NYC is the biggest city in the country. We need to get the ACC in NYC!
I've been to Greensboro several times for the tourney. There is nothing exciting, neat nor nostalgic about Greensboro, North Carolina! This is the truth. Book the tournament in New York and I'm buying tickets immediately. _____________________
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