VegasWolf wrote:

wolfer79 wrote:

VegasWolf wrote:

wolfpack87 wrote: It should never leave Greensboro. But that's just me I suppose.

It isn't just you.  This is where it belongs.

since the link says both MSG and the Brooklyn Nets facility declined to bid and the ACC has gone back to them, the university representatives seem to disagree.

Doesn't mean I have agree with them.  But then again, I'm a golf course superintendent and not a universtity rep.  What do I know?

wolfpackernc wrote: Great idea unless you are still upset about the War of Northern Aggression.

cwsloan wrote: How do we as State fans lobby for Greensboro without looking like "homers?"  I dont know how to answer that because I am a North Carolinian and a State grad....

But IMO, every tournament I see on TV not in Greensboro sucks!   I know even in G'Boro the Thursday and early Friday games have gotten sparse, but even the Saturday games, the BEST day of the tourney,  in Tampa and Atlanta, looked dead and no one outside of FSU or Miami hardly wanted to travel.

Is Greensboro a geographical advantage to Duke, UNC, NCSU, and Wake?  Maybe a little.  But I promise the teams who deserve to win, win.  Just ask Florida State!

I was there in Washington DC when we finally appeased Gary Williams to have a tournament there and to watch him go out in the FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tradition = Greensboro

4 schools in NC and nearby school in Clemson = Greensboro

It keeps the tournament relevant and it gets the best fan base who knows how to distribute tickets and travel...

You would think Swofford would want Greensboro considering how much it benefits UNC and Duke!

RedLight wrote: I think most of those adamantly oppossed have never visited NYC. It would be a great location and fun trip. Much more interesting than Greensboro. Ideally have it there once every 4-5 years.

DC is also a fun trip. Plus, you can stay in NOVA much cheaper and ride the metro into the city.

The biggest challenge facing the Tournamnet is how to handle expansion. Next year there will be 15 schools involved. I think on-campus play-in games for the lower seeds should be looked at to keep the event manageable.

wolfer79 wrote:

VegasWolf wrote:

wolfpack87 wrote: It should never leave Greensboro. But that's just me I suppose.

It isn't just you.  This is where it belongs.

since the link says both MSG and the Brooklyn Nets facility declined to bid and the ACC has gone back to them, the university representatives seem to disagree.

Wufman66 wrote:

wolfer79 wrote:

VegasWolf wrote:

wolfpack87 wrote: It should never leave Greensboro. But that's just me I suppose.

It isn't just you.  This is where it belongs.

since the link says both MSG and the Brooklyn Nets facility declined to bid and the ACC has gone back to them, the university representatives seem to disagree.

Or maybe it's just Swofford who is interested.

wolfpackernc wrote: Great idea unless you are still upset about the War of Northern Aggression.

0newolf wrote:

wolfpackernc wrote: Great idea unless you are still upset about the War of Northern Aggression.

Just because we've never waged war against Canada doesn't mean it's off the table.

WakeForestIndy wrote: We've invaded Canada twice.

Otter74 wrote: With Maryland gone, take DC off the list.  I say do a 3 city rotation.  Atlanta, Greensboro, NY, Greensboro, Atlanta, etc.

ACC 2016-21 tourney finalists: ATL (Philips), Charlotte, Greensboro, NY, Tampa & D.C

Wufman66 wrote:

cwsloan wrote: How do we as State fans lobby for Greensboro without looking like "homers?"  I dont know how to answer that because I am a North Carolinian and a State grad....

But IMO, every tournament I see on TV not in Greensboro sucks!   I know even in G'Boro the Thursday and early Friday games have gotten sparse, but even the Saturday games, the BEST day of the tourney,  in Tampa and Atlanta, looked dead and no one outside of FSU or Miami hardly wanted to travel.

Is Greensboro a geographical advantage to Duke, UNC, NCSU, and Wake?  Maybe a little.  But I promise the teams who deserve to win, win.  Just ask Florida State!

I was there in Washington DC when we finally appeased Gary Williams to have a tournament there and to watch him go out in the FIRST ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tradition = Greensboro

4 schools in NC and nearby school in Clemson = Greensboro

It keeps the tournament relevant and it gets the best fan base who knows how to distribute tickets and travel...

You would think Swofford would want Greensboro considering how much it benefits UNC and Duke!

Don't forget Va Tech 90 min up the road in Blacksburg. Closer than Clemson.

wolfer79 wrote: Because of the Atlantic Coast Conference's increased footprint in the Northeast, the ACC is interested in holding a future men's basketball tournament in New York, an ACC school official told ESPN.

Besides New York, other cities being considered to host the 2016-21 ACC tournaments are Atlanta (Philips Arena), Charlotte, Greensboro, N.C., Tampa, Fla., and Washington D.C.

Four cities -- Miami, Orlando, Pittsburgh and Atlanta (Georgia Dome), who all submitted a bid to host a tournament between 2016-21 -- have been eliminated from contention to host. Despite the Georgia Dome hosting the two highest-attended conference tournaments (the 2001 and '09 ACC tournaments), it was eliminated because of the ACC's preference to place future tournaments in more traditional basketball arenas instead of domes.

dunlow66 wrote:

Brett McMurphy ‏ @ McMurphyESPN

ACC 2016-21 tourney finalists: ATL (Philips), Charlotte, Greensboro, NY, Tampa & D.C

Wufman66 wrote:

wolfer79 wrote:

VegasWolf wrote:

wolfpack87 wrote: It should never leave Greensboro. But that's just me I suppose.

It isn't just you.  This is where it belongs.

since the link says both MSG and the Brooklyn Nets facility declined to bid and the ACC has gone back to them, the university representatives seem to disagree.

Or maybe it's just Swofford who is interested.

PretzelPack wrote: I like Orlando better than Tampa. Isn't the Orlando Arena just as nice as Tampa's. Might not be next to the water, but it is at Disneyland, which is a good tourist destination and it is a good fit for the southern tier being more centrally located for Miami, FSU, GT, and Clemson.

wrcwolf wrote:

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Wufman66 wrote:

wolfer79 wrote:

VegasWolf wrote:

wolfpack87 wrote: It should never leave Greensboro. But that's just me I suppose.

It isn't just you.  This is where it belongs.

since the link says both MSG and the Brooklyn Nets facility declined to bid and the ACC has gone back to them, the university representatives seem to disagree.

Or maybe it's just Swofford who is interested.

If a significant chunk of the university representatives were against it, Swofford wouldn't be going for it. Swofford has to answer to the member institutions. It's not as if he runs the conference without the approval of its members, as so many who like to blame all the failures on Swoff would like to believe.

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That's part of his job and why he makes his high salary. As long as the uninformed continually place blame at his feet and not their university president, he's doing his job well.

ONS, I'm sure you are looking forward to your Big 12 holding it's basketball tourney in Charleston, WV or Pittsburgh down the road to accommodate the Mountaineers. For the SEC fans on the board, a tourney will likely be held in Houston and Kansas City before too long. Big Ten holding conference events in Pittsburgh, DC and NYC? Going to happen. That's part of the deal with conference expansion.

wrcwolf wrote: Pittsburgh will be close to the center of the Eastern schools in the conference (OSU, UM, MSU, PSU, MD, Rutgers, Indiana). Great new arena (Consol) and the ability to hold such an event. No clue if Pittsburgh would want to host the Big Ten bball tourney, but they would be in the discussion, if they did.

Btw, talk is that the Big Ten may divide their conferences geographically once MD and Rutgers come aboard, so those schools could be the Eastern Conference.

jds0881 wrote: The greensboro coliseum will look totally different this year when the tourney rolls in.  Gone will be the green plastic seats and replaced with a dark blue padded seat.  I have seen the process steadily move and it is going to look so much better than the original green.

wrcwolf wrote:

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1321wolf wrote:

flair1 wrote: Think about this, 1000s of world class restaurants within walking or subway distance, Broadway shows, museums, shopping, and basketball. Greensboro can't compete.

I thought the ACC tournament was a basketball game, not a girl's weekend.

Exactly. Its a damn basketball tournament where you spend most of the time in the arena. I live in NYC. Its a fantastic, world class city. The ACC tournament would be an after thought and the arena would be polluted with Sorrycuse fans.

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Why should the North Carolina schools have the advantage of polluting the arenas with their fans in Greensboro or Charlotte, as they have for all but 11 ACC Tourneys in it's history?

Who knows, maybe NC State has one less National Championship banner if the '74 Tourney is held at the Cap Center instead of in Greensboro. I know, blasphemy to even think of such a thing.

The conference is made up of members from up and down the East Coast. Rotating the Tourney to different areas seems like the fair thing to do. Having the chance to play the Tourney in the "Mecca of Basketball" is a no brainer, IMO. Maybe not for the fans of North Carolina schools (most of you aren't going if it's in G'boro, NYC or Reynolds anyways), but without question, it would be for the players of North Carolina schools. But who cares about them.

PretzelPack wrote: I like Orlando better than Tampa. Isn't the Orlando Arena just as nice as Tampa's. Might not be next to the water, but it is at Disneyland, which is a good tourist destination and it is a good fit for the southern tier being more centrally located for Miami, FSU, GT, and Clemson.

wrcwolf wrote: The "Mecca" of basketball for five straight years? What will some of you do? Will Greensboro be able to survive?

If I can make it there/I'll make it anywhere. Can already hear the melody.

It's from the Post, I wouldn't take it seriously yet. But solid move for the ACC, if they can lock up the biggest basketball stage for their biggest basketball event. We'll see.

Big Ten poking around the NYC market as well.

www.nypost.com/p/sports/colleg...dOxZqMmA5Ph1NzN

But suddenly there’s a new player in town. When rumors surfaced the ACC was exploring moving its championship tournament to the Garden, it met a quick end because the ACC wanted to try it on a one-year basis.

Sources said the ACC recently came back to the Garden seeking a five-year deal.

So now the Garden is in a great place: It can go with the ACC, which would bring its tournament to New York for the 2015-16 season. Or it can go with the Catholic 7, which has a deal in place through 2026.

Even if the ACC decided after five years to rotate its tournament site — a move that might be necessary to placate the Southern schools in the league, it would continue to return.

“The Garden is more important to the Catholic 7 than the Catholic 7 is to the Garden,’’ said one source.

If this should happen, if the Catholic 7 doesn’t get its ducks in a row and the Garden goes with the ACC, there could be, let’s call it arena realignment.

Barclays Center has the Atlantic 10 postseason tournament. But if Butler, Xavier and St. Louis, among others, leave the A-10 for the Catholic 7 conference, that league could move to Barclays. Sources said Barclays has even had a couple of “feeling out” conversations with the Big Ten.

Imagine a week like this in the metropolitan area in March — Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State and all the others — in town. Try getting a hotel room.

tmacerus wrote:

Otter74 wrote: With Maryland gone, take DC off the list.  I say do a 3 city rotation.  Atlanta, Greensboro, NY, Greensboro, Atlanta, etc.

I think MD leaving is the reason DC should be put back on the list

PackFMM wrote:

tmacerus wrote:

Otter74 wrote: With Maryland gone, take DC off the list.  I say do a 3 city rotation.  Atlanta, Greensboro, NY, Greensboro, Atlanta, etc.

I think MD leaving is the reason DC should be put back on the list

+1

wrcwolf wrote: The "Mecca" of basketball for five straight years? What will some of you do? Will Greensboro be able to survive?

If I can make it there/I'll make it anywhere. Can already hear the melody.

It's from the Post, I wouldn't take it seriously yet. But solid move for the ACC, if they can lock up the biggest basketball stage for their biggest basketball event. We'll see.

Big Ten poking around the NYC market as well.

www.nypost.com/p/sports/colleg...dOxZqMmA5Ph1NzN

But suddenly there’s a new player in town. When rumors surfaced the ACC was exploring moving its championship tournament to the Garden, it met a quick end because the ACC wanted to try it on a one-year basis.

Sources said the ACC recently came back to the Garden seeking a five-year deal.

So now the Garden is in a great place: It can go with the ACC, which would bring its tournament to New York for the 2015-16 season. Or it can go with the Catholic 7, which has a deal in place through 2026.

Even if the ACC decided after five years to rotate its tournament site — a move that might be necessary to placate the Southern schools in the league, it would continue to return.

“The Garden is more important to the Catholic 7 than the Catholic 7 is to the Garden,’’ said one source.

If this should happen, if the Catholic 7 doesn’t get its ducks in a row and the Garden goes with the ACC, there could be, let’s call it arena realignment.

Barclays Center has the Atlantic 10 postseason tournament. But if Butler, Xavier and St. Louis, among others, leave the A-10 for the Catholic 7 conference, that league could move to Barclays. Sources said Barclays has even had a couple of “feeling out” conversations with the Big Ten.

Imagine a week like this in the metropolitan area in March — Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State and all the others — in town. Try getting a hotel room.